Re: Personally making a major recovery with insomnia

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> One thing that helps my sleep is to avoid food that I am sensitive

to. For me it is: onions,

> garlic, yogurt, mustard, certain eggs, liver and a few other things.

Most of those foods are very sulfuric. I wonder if you have some

sulfoxidation problems (hepatic sulfur enzymes), i.e., meaning likely

mercury or other heavy metal poisoning. One of my mercury poisoned

acquaintances had really bad cortisol/hypoglycemic problems and

required P5P to reduce his cortisol levels, which in his case were too

high. P5P can also reduce homocysteine, I think, which could be too

high in cases of B12 or folic acid deficiency, and probably other

metabolic problems like that. Maybe your improvement on the B-complex

points to something like that - have you ever had B12 or folic levels

checked?

-Jeff

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Rob,

Thanks for sharing this. My 27 yo son and my husband both have awful

insomnia, as do I from time to time.

I've had some success with my son giving him inhibitory amino acids,

but they don't seem to work for DH.

I will be trying your formula. I'm surprised that the B-complex you

take later in the day doesn't prevent you from winding down.

Cindy

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> I have battled with insomnia for four to five years now. My

symptoms have been: not

> being able to sleep at all for six months to a year, waking in the

middle of the night and

> not being able to go to sleep, severe hypoglycemia, fatigue when I

do not sleep and pain

> at certain points between the shoulder blades.

>

> What helped me:

>

> One thing that helps my sleep is to avoid food that I am sensitive

to. For me it is: onions,

> garlic, yogurt, mustard, certain eggs, liver and a few other things.

>

> L-Carnitine - I am taking 1000 mg every morning and since I have

started taking it about

> a week ago, my sleep has improved most dramatically. I take the

tartrate form by Now. I

> have tried the liquid form for long periods in the past and it does

nothing.

>

> Liquid B Complex - I use the ones from Nature's Answer with the

silver label. I take about

> a tablespoon in the morning and in the early evening. I have taken

other B vitamin

> formulas that did nothing (Fatigued to Fantastic). Discovered this

by accident when I ran

> out of other B Complex and I decided to try something new.

>

> P-5-P - Derivative of B-6. I feel that this makes some difference,

but not as much as the

> above. I use the Vitamin Shoppe brand. I take 100 mg every night.

>

> L-Glutamine - I take 2 grams every evening. Helps sleep quality and

hypoglycemia. I have

> the powdered form from Jarrow.

>

>

> I am in no way saying that this will work for other people. I just

know that when it has

> been difficult for me, it would have been beneficial for me to have

a list of ideas for things

> I could try. I was taking 15 mg of Cortisol a day, but I thing that

I will begin lowering the

> dosage gradually because the improvement is so dramatic. I can

literally go several hours

> now without feeling my blood sugar drop.

>

> -Rob

>

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My dad has cortisol levels over 110, off the charts 24 hrs. He's

also been suffering postherpetic neuralgia for almost a year. People

have recommended phosphatidylserine which he's been taking for a

couple months, also Seriphos. But no change so far, and he still has

to take ambien every night to sleep (has been for 2 1/2 years since

my mom died), he tried not taking it a few times with the Seriphos,

but it didn't work. Can you expand on what your friend did to lower

cortisol...the P5P regimen etc? Did he do a provoked urine test or

hair analysis for the mercury diagnosis?

thanks,

Liz

> >

> >

> > One thing that helps my sleep is to avoid food that I am sensitive

> to. For me it is: onions,

> > garlic, yogurt, mustard, certain eggs, liver and a few other

things.

>

> Most of those foods are very sulfuric. I wonder if you have some

> sulfoxidation problems (hepatic sulfur enzymes), i.e., meaning

likely

> mercury or other heavy metal poisoning. One of my mercury poisoned

> acquaintances had really bad cortisol/hypoglycemic problems and

> required P5P to reduce his cortisol levels, which in his case were

too

> high. P5P can also reduce homocysteine, I think, which could be too

> high in cases of B12 or folic acid deficiency, and probably other

> metabolic problems like that. Maybe your improvement on the B-

complex

> points to something like that - have you ever had B12 or folic

levels

> checked?

>

> -Jeff

>

[Guest guest]

I take it closer to the end of the day, but not right before bed. Probably

about four hours

before going to bed.

> >

> > I have battled with insomnia for four to five years now. My

> symptoms have been: not

> > being able to sleep at all for six months to a year, waking in the

> middle of the night and

> > not being able to go to sleep, severe hypoglycemia, fatigue when I

> do not sleep and pain

> > at certain points between the shoulder blades.

> >

> > What helped me:

> >

> > One thing that helps my sleep is to avoid food that I am sensitive

> to. For me it is: onions,

> > garlic, yogurt, mustard, certain eggs, liver and a few other things.

> >

> > L-Carnitine - I am taking 1000 mg every morning and since I have

> started taking it about

> > a week ago, my sleep has improved most dramatically. I take the

> tartrate form by Now. I

> > have tried the liquid form for long periods in the past and it does

> nothing.

> >

> > Liquid B Complex - I use the ones from Nature's Answer with the

> silver label. I take about

> > a tablespoon in the morning and in the early evening. I have taken

> other B vitamin

> > formulas that did nothing (Fatigued to Fantastic). Discovered this

> by accident when I ran

> > out of other B Complex and I decided to try something new.

> >

> > P-5-P - Derivative of B-6. I feel that this makes some difference,

> but not as much as the

> > above. I use the Vitamin Shoppe brand. I take 100 mg every night.

> >

> > L-Glutamine - I take 2 grams every evening. Helps sleep quality and

> hypoglycemia. I have

> > the powdered form from Jarrow.

> >

> >

> > I am in no way saying that this will work for other people. I just

> know that when it has

> > been difficult for me, it would have been beneficial for me to have

> a list of ideas for things

> > I could try. I was taking 15 mg of Cortisol a day, but I thing that

> I will begin lowering the

> > dosage gradually because the improvement is so dramatic. I can

> literally go several hours

> > now without feeling my blood sugar drop.

> >

> > -Rob

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Congratulations on the progress with your sleep! I have a question for

you. As I have been battling insomnia now for the past 6 months, and

have literally been unable to sleep unless I combine a Xanax and

Ambien, and even then sleep is not guaranteed.

Have you always been an insomniac, or did it start (or get worse) with

your adrenal problems? I am 30 and have slept like a BABY my entire

life, often sleeping through numerous alarms, storms, and noises. I

have always required 9 hours sleep and could sleep up to 11 hours no

problem. Only back in July 07 when I started thyroid treatment did

this whole crazy insomnia start. I have been on and off thyroid meds

(July-August on Synthroid at 25 mcg max and then Armour at 1/4 grain

for 4 days in Dec 07). I couldn't tolerate any of these due to adrenal

fatigue, so just started Isocort, licorice, and other supps about a

month ago and have been slowly adding thyroid meds (up to 12 mcg

Synthroid now). The insomnia is RELENTLESS. It took 10 weeks AFTER I

was off the first dose of thyroid to be able to sleep again.

Anyways, the insomnia is here and seemingly worse with the increase in

thyroid meds and Isocort and I can't figure it out. I am trying

Seriphos with some other homeopathic stuff b/c I have taken too many

sleeping pills. I just wanted to know if your insomnia (and that of

others) started with the adrenal problems, or if it predated that. i

cannot imagine living like this forever - it is bad enough not being

able with the adrenal fatigue and hypothyroidism!

Thanks for any support, suggestions you may have!

Metta

> > >

> > > I have battled with insomnia for four to five years now. My

> > symptoms have been: not

> > > being able to sleep at all for six months to a year, waking in the

> > middle of the night and

> > > not being able to go to sleep, severe hypoglycemia, fatigue when I

> > do not sleep and pain

> > > at certain points between the shoulder blades.

> > >

> > > What helped me:

> > >

> > > One thing that helps my sleep is to avoid food that I am sensitive

> > to. For me it is: onions,

> > > garlic, yogurt, mustard, certain eggs, liver and a few other things.

> > >

> > > L-Carnitine - I am taking 1000 mg every morning and since I have

> > started taking it about

> > > a week ago, my sleep has improved most dramatically. I take the

> > tartrate form by Now. I

> > > have tried the liquid form for long periods in the past and it does

> > nothing.

> > >

> > > Liquid B Complex - I use the ones from Nature's Answer with the

> > silver label. I take about

> > > a tablespoon in the morning and in the early evening. I have taken

> > other B vitamin

> > > formulas that did nothing (Fatigued to Fantastic). Discovered this

> > by accident when I ran

> > > out of other B Complex and I decided to try something new.

> > >

> > > P-5-P - Derivative of B-6. I feel that this makes some difference,

> > but not as much as the

> > > above. I use the Vitamin Shoppe brand. I take 100 mg every night.

> > >

> > > L-Glutamine - I take 2 grams every evening. Helps sleep quality and

> > hypoglycemia. I have

> > > the powdered form from Jarrow.

> > >

> > >

> > > I am in no way saying that this will work for other people. I just

> > know that when it has

> > > been difficult for me, it would have been beneficial for me to have

> > a list of ideas for things

> > > I could try. I was taking 15 mg of Cortisol a day, but I thing that

> > I will begin lowering the

> > > dosage gradually because the improvement is so dramatic. I can

> > literally go several hours

> > > now without feeling my blood sugar drop.

> > >

> > > -Rob

> > >

> >

>