What your Antidepressant is doing to your Thyroid

[Guest guest]

Research and studies are highly manipulated within mainstream medicine.

Alternative

medicine is well aware of the studies linking AD's with suicide and also with

violent

behavior, school shootings in the past couple of decades have been linked to the

shooter's

use of AD's. Information on many things, but especially in certain areas like

cancer,

diabetes and AD's are profit driven. There are vast amounts of money involved,

so much

so, that many truths about these medications will probably never come to light

to the full

mainstream of the population.

Deficiencies of amino acids and other nutritional deficiencies would require the

help of a

qualified doctor or nutritionist trained in this area and testing to be able to

figure out what

the deficiencies are and the proper course to remedy.

You know what has worked for you. I'm not saying that it doesn't, what I am

saying is that

other things are not ruled out first, such as thyroid or adrenal or more simply

nutritional

deficiencies.

Almost every doctor I have talked to has told me that my daughter's Hashi's is

incurable

and that it will run it's course and destroy her thyroid. What I had learned

about

autoimmune diseases and antibodies had taught me that obviously something was

causing the antibodies and the attack on her thyroid. The immune system does

not just

start attacking itself for no reason. It's a defense system to protect us. It

made perfect

sense to me to find out what was causing the attack, remove it and stop the

attack on her

thyroid. That has worked for my daughter and her thyroid problems have ceased.

It's been my experience that there are many people out there trying to do

similar things

for their depression. They don't want to cover up the symptoms with the drugs

or deal

with the side effects of the drugs or they don't like the way the feel while

taking the meds,

they want to find out if there's an underlying problem that can be treated

instead.

I wouldn't want to tell those people that they should just take the drugs and

not look for

another route any more than I like people to tell me that I should just give my

daughter

thyroid meds, ignore what's happening to her body and let her thyroid be

destroyed.

I'm not saying that it's not a valid choice to take the meds that work for each

of us. I'm

just saying that there are options for those who are interested.

That's awesome that you've lost 48 pounds Liz. I'm sure that has helped and

will continue

to help your health.

Linn

>

> I tried to treat my depression with diet alone for over 20 years. I was

miserable. I made

everyone who had to be around me miserable, and that was the few people who had

to be

around me. Anyone who did not have to be, did not stay.

>

> You are right the SAD diet is a big factor in our current fix, but fixing the

diet does not

always fix it.

>

> Neither does fixing hormones. I have lost 48 pounds thanks to what I have

learned from

Val. But it is not enough.

>

> There were some early studies done that showed there was a connection between

AD's

and suicidal THOUGHTS. Further, more detailed and larger studies showed that

they still

save lives. Thinking and doing are two separate things. Unfortunately all that

some people

are aware of, are the earlier studies, and some folks for honest and dishonest

reasons

want to keep folks thinking the early studies were the total story.

>

> I am sorry for the kid's parents. But depressed people have been harming

themselves

and killing themselves for thousands of years before AD's were invented. Anyone

remember Van Gogh? Or Romeo and t which was base don a true story.

>

> People on antidepressants kill themselves much less than those off of them.

Obviously

they don't always work. But even during the danger period, when they are first

used, they

STILL cut down on actual attempts. Those are from large, well documented

studies.

>

> Hensley <>< 8-)

[Guest guest]

Great story, and reminds everyone to keep things in perspective!? If the choice

is to become functional or not, then the medication is worth it.? the air we

breathe is laden with toxins and you do not want to take tons of meds when you

can get cured NATURALLY, BUT when you have a job and family sometimes you may

need meds, EVEN if only temporarily.

[Guest guest]

Great story, and reminds everyone to keep things in perspective!? If the choice

is to become functional or not, then the medication is worth it.? the air we

breathe is laden with toxins and you do not want to take tons of meds when you

can get cured NATURALLY, BUT when you have a job and family sometimes you may

need meds, EVEN if only temporarily.

[Guest guest]

Great story, and reminds everyone to keep things in perspective!? If the choice

is to become functional or not, then the medication is worth it.? the air we

breathe is laden with toxins and you do not want to take tons of meds when you

can get cured NATURALLY, BUT when you have a job and family sometimes you may

need meds, EVEN if only temporarily.

[Guest guest]

Yikes! I don't think I'd want to stop the florinef, as it has

literally changed my life: improved adrenals, more energy, no edema

in my knees, ability to tolerate Armour, ability to sleep for the

first time in 15+ years without sleep aids...the list goes on.

What I'm thinking is to supplement with Iodoral, because the iodine

molecule will displace the fluoride molecule, as I understand it, and

might help to offset the fluoride effect of florinef.

Thoughts on this anyone?

Dahlia

> >

> > I'm a little worried about the fact that Florinef is a fluoride

> compound, isn't it?

> > Dahlia

> >

> > >>In the 1930s is was first observed that all fluoride

compounds,

> > organic and inorganic ones, inhibit thyroid hormones. >>

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

Yikes! I don't think I'd want to stop the florinef, as it has

literally changed my life: improved adrenals, more energy, no edema

in my knees, ability to tolerate Armour, ability to sleep for the

first time in 15+ years without sleep aids...the list goes on.

What I'm thinking is to supplement with Iodoral, because the iodine

molecule will displace the fluoride molecule, as I understand it, and

might help to offset the fluoride effect of florinef.

Thoughts on this anyone?

Dahlia

> >

> > I'm a little worried about the fact that Florinef is a fluoride

> compound, isn't it?

> > Dahlia

> >

> > >>In the 1930s is was first observed that all fluoride

compounds,

> > organic and inorganic ones, inhibit thyroid hormones. >>

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Yikes! I don't think I'd want to stop the florinef, as it has

literally changed my life: improved adrenals, more energy, no edema

in my knees, ability to tolerate Armour, ability to sleep for the

first time in 15+ years without sleep aids...the list goes on.

What I'm thinking is to supplement with Iodoral, because the iodine

molecule will displace the fluoride molecule, as I understand it, and

might help to offset the fluoride effect of florinef.

Thoughts on this anyone?

Dahlia

> >

> > I'm a little worried about the fact that Florinef is a fluoride

> compound, isn't it?

> > Dahlia

> >

> > >>In the 1930s is was first observed that all fluoride

compounds,

> > organic and inorganic ones, inhibit thyroid hormones. >>

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

You might check the Iodine yahoo group files if you're a member or do

a Google search if you're not, but as far as I know, iodine will

clean out any fluoride you have lurking in your body. That's what

the iodine folks claim, fwiw.

Dahlia

> >

> It is on the list of fluorinated pharmas

> > tho here

> >

> >

http://home.iae.nl/users/lightnet/health/fluorinatedpharmaceuticals.ht

m

> >

> >

>

> Great. Not only were there medications on there that I took for

> years, there is one that I recently switched to for my sleep

disorder

> because it has fewer side effects. Crap.

>

> Is there nothing I can take that will work without being poisoned?

>

> 8(

>

[Guest guest]

I also was scared of Florinef when I read it is a fluorinated drug.

There actually is a BIOIDENTICAL aldosterone but it is pcost

prohibitive.. VERY expensive, but if oyu havea willing doctor MAYBE your

insurance would cover this if oyu have it? I think when oyu need

aldosterone Florinef is a worth while risk and yes the iodine should

help displace the fluoride you are consuming wihtit, but sdon;t discount

the iodine in THYROID ! It is made of iodine molecules!

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I also was scared of Florinef when I read it is a fluorinated drug.

There actually is a BIOIDENTICAL aldosterone but it is pcost

prohibitive.. VERY expensive, but if oyu havea willing doctor MAYBE your

insurance would cover this if oyu have it? I think when oyu need

aldosterone Florinef is a worth while risk and yes the iodine should

help displace the fluoride you are consuming wihtit, but sdon;t discount

the iodine in THYROID ! It is made of iodine molecules!

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http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

[Guest guest]

I also was scared of Florinef when I read it is a fluorinated drug.

There actually is a BIOIDENTICAL aldosterone but it is pcost

prohibitive.. VERY expensive, but if oyu havea willing doctor MAYBE your

insurance would cover this if oyu have it? I think when oyu need

aldosterone Florinef is a worth while risk and yes the iodine should

help displace the fluoride you are consuming wihtit, but sdon;t discount

the iodine in THYROID ! It is made of iodine molecules!

--

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http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

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Btw, how much iodine does armour have?

I am not sure and can never get an answer to that question when I have asked it

of " iodine experts " .. They seem to totally ignore the iodinein thyroid hormones

and to me that is one of th4e main sources for us taking thyroid hormones. I

believe T4 has 4 iodine molecules but I have no idea in MG's what this would

amount to, also it must be diodinized to lose each molecule to become T3 thne

another to become T2 and another to become T1 but each of these deiodinizes

releases those molecules of iodine into the body.

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>>I had always heard that thyroid hormone depleted iodine from the

body,<<

I htink in folks with a WORKING thyroid gland it probably does take iodine from

the body to MAKE thyroid hormones, but our thyroids are pretty much not doign

that anymore and when we get on full thyroid hormone repacement, they certainly

are not and we are ingesting the extra iodine contianed in the hormones we are

taking.

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Synthroid is T4, even though synthetic, it will still release 1 atom of

iodine for every molecule that converts to T3.

So there is as much iodine in synthetic T4 as in natural T4. It is just

that one T4 molecule is made in a lab, the other is made in a body. But

both contain 4 iodine atoms for each molecule of the hormone.

sol

dahlia_918 wrote:

> I had always heard that thyroid hormone depleted iodine from the

> body, but maybe that refers only to synthroid et al. This is good

> info Val, thank you,

> Dahlia

>

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Val, thanks for your reply. I find that reassuring, Dahlia

>

> >>I had always heard that thyroid hormone depleted iodine from the

> body,<<

>

> I htink in folks with a WORKING thyroid gland it probably does take

iodine from the body to MAKE thyroid hormones, but our thyroids are

pretty much not doign that anymore and when we get on full thyroid

hormone repacement, they certainly are not and we are ingesting the

extra iodine contianed in the hormones we are taking.

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Sol,

I'll have to go back and research, but I'm pretty sure I have read on

the Iodine board that synthetic thyroid hormone depletes iodine. I'm

sorry I can't recall more at the moment, but I'll get back with some

facts. Thanks for your reply.

Dahlia

> > I had always heard that thyroid hormone depleted iodine from the

> > body, but maybe that refers only to synthroid et al. This is

good

> > info Val, thank you,

> > Dahlia

> >

>