Re: dr wilsons adrenal fatigue

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I doubt there is an answer to this question. All I can tell you is " it

depends " on so many things.. First there is the fatc they really don;t

KNOW how much cortisl adrenals produce in a dy. Their best GUESS is 30mg

but that depends on lifestyle, stress levels and INDIVIDUAL biological

status and metabolism. Then there is how we absorb or more importantly

DON'T absorb oral meds. Many people wiht low cortils had absorption

issues and I htink here is where most the disparity is.

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Also, does anyone have a reply to Dr. 's assertion that MOST

people with adrenal fatigue can and should be treated with

glandulars/adrenal cortical extracts instead of cortisol? He seems to

think that docs provide cortisol too frequently, and only those with

severe severe adrenal problems should take cortisol. However, my doc

prescribed me cortisol (though I cannot tolerate it, so take Isocort)

and I know many people on this blog who feel much better from it.

So, just curious about anyone's thoughts on this claim by him in his book.

Thanks,

metta

>

> I doubt there is an answer to this question. All I can tell you is " it

> depends " on so many things.. First there is the fatc they really don;t

> KNOW how much cortisl adrenals produce in a dy. Their best GUESS is

30mg

> but that depends on lifestyle, stress levels and INDIVIDUAL biological

> status and metabolism. Then there is how we absorb or more importantly

> DON'T absorb oral meds. Many people wiht low cortils had absorption

> issues and I htink here is where most the disparity is.

>

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> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

>

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>>Also, does anyone have a reply to Dr. 's assertion that MOST

people with adrenal fatigue can and should be treated with

glandulars/adrenal cortical extracts instead of cortisol? <<

Well I have known people that tried his protocol for 15 years and then had

totally crashed adrenals that had to take HC for life due oto the extended

period of time they were nto supported properly. I think kind of the opposite.

Unless it is VERY mild adrenal fatigue cortils is necessary to heal the

adrenals.

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I am not an expert on this, but my doctor (who has a reputation for

being cutting edge), agrees completely with Dr. . He struggled

with adrenal fatigue while in med school and treated himself

successfully with glandulars. He treated me the same way and after 6

months of it, my adrenal fatigue symptoms are gone. (I do not have

saliva test results to prove any of this -- I'm only going on

symptoms, but my symptoms were severe enough that I had to quit my

job). His reasoning is this -- in his experience, there is an

unacceptable risk of a patient never being able to get off hc (because

it shuts down your adrenals and sometimes they never are able to wake

up and get back to it). He only treats the very worst cases with hc

-- same thing Dr. does. My doc says he's had great success

using Dr. 's ideas. My pharmacist (who is a compounding

pharmacist -- and is a great source of information) agrees that

glandulars work and hc should only be used for the very worst cases.

Like I said, I am certainly no expert --I'm just sharing my

experience. Amy

>

> Also, does anyone have a reply to Dr. 's assertion that MOST

> people with adrenal fatigue can and should be treated with

> glandulars/adrenal cortical extracts instead of cortisol?

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I believe I've healed with 's Adrenal Rebuilder and low dose HC

(6 weeks of 2.5 / 1.25). But for most on this list, that would not be

enough. They have found this list because they suffer much more

debilitating symptoms, so for them, anything other than HC would be

undermedication. It seems that once you cross over into anxiety, which

my DH has, you're in the camp that needs HC. I only had a hint of what

the anxiety is like when I crashed. DH has lived with it daily for

years, along with the panic attacks and night terrors you all

describe. I never knew what his problem was. Because of my thryoid

condition, I suspected thyroid and actually got a doc to test his TSH

years ago, but of course, that came back normal. HA! The knowledge

I've gained from Val and reading this list has been invaluable in

treating him, and I do feel, while slow, he is making progres. My

problems of asthma, thinning hair, cold feet, and cracked heels pale in

comparison to his and most here. And that's where the difference

lies. The group here represents those with severe adrenal fatigue. So

most here will get the recommendation for HC. Saliva tells all.

Barb

" amygreen53 " wrote:

> He only treats the very worst cases with hc

> -- same thing Dr. does. My doc says he's had great success

> using Dr. 's ideas. My pharmacist (who is a compounding

> pharmacist -- and is a great source of information) agrees that

> glandulars work and hc should only be used for the very worst cases.

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I have to agree with Val. I read Dr. s book many years ago

after many years of adrenal fatigue and noticed that he didn't stress

HC as much as I think he should've. Had I come across this group

years ago and had I found a doctor who didn't believe just like Dr.

does, that isocort or glandulars are the way to go I wouldn't

lost the last 12 years of my life.

As a side note, I did consult with Dr. Poesnecker (in PA) before he

pasted, over at least a year, and although my daily cortisol burden

was only 11 he didn't even bring up HC. I think that was very

irresponsible and cost me many years. Of course, every supplement he

sold me did nothing for me so here I am 7 years later.

I think maybe people should try isocort but if they don't notice

anything why keep waiting and waiting. It just isn't going to do

anything if that is indeed not enough for you.

>

> >>Also, does anyone have a reply to Dr. 's assertion that MOST

> people with adrenal fatigue can and should be treated with

> glandulars/adrenal cortical extracts instead of cortisol? <<

>

> Well I have known people that tried his protocol for 15 years and

then had totally crashed adrenals that had to take HC for life due

oto the extended period of time they were nto supported properly. I

think kind of the opposite. Unless it is VERY mild adrenal fatigue

cortils is necessary to heal the adrenals.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

>

[Guest guest]

What exactly is HC. my friend is taking armour and cortisol, but it looks like

he should be taking whatever this HC is. Also, he is taking Dr. 's

grandulars.

Re: dr wilsons adrenal fatigue

I have to agree with Val. I read Dr. s book many years ago

after many years of adrenal fatigue and noticed that he didn't stress

HC as much as I think he should've. Had I come across this group

years ago and had I found a doctor who didn't believe just like Dr.

does, that isocort or glandulars are the way to go I wouldn't

lost the last 12 years of my life.

As a side note, I did consult with Dr. Poesnecker (in PA) before he

pasted, over at least a year, and although my daily cortisol burden

was only 11 he didn't even bring up HC. I think that was very

irresponsible and cost me many years. Of course, every supplement he

sold me did nothing for me so here I am 7 years later.

I think maybe people should try isocort but if they don't notice

anything why keep waiting and waiting. It just isn't going to do

anything if that is indeed not enough for you.

>

> >>Also, does anyone have a reply to Dr. 's assertion that MOST

> people with adrenal fatigue can and should be treated with

> glandulars/adrenal cortical extracts instead of cortisol? <<

>

> Well I have known people that tried his protocol for 15 years and

then had totally crashed adrenals that had to take HC for life due

oto the extended period of time they were nto supported properly. I

think kind of the opposite. Unless it is VERY mild adrenal fatigue

cortils is necessary to heal the adrenals.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthet hyroidmadness. com/

>

http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ NaturalThyroidHo rmonesADRENALS/

> http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ RT3_T3/

>

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okay, thanks what's he's taking. Thanks

RE: dr wilsons adrenal fatigue

HC is short for hydrocortisone or Cortef (brand name).

rie

What exactly is HC. my friend is taking armour and cortisol, but it looks

like he should be taking whatever this HC is. Also, he is taking Dr.

's grandulars.

I have to agree with Val. I read Dr. s book many years ago

after many years of adrenal fatigue and noticed that he didn't stress

HC as much as I think he should've. Had I come across this group

years ago and had I found a doctor who didn't believe just like Dr.

does, that isocort or glandulars are the way to go I wouldn't

lost the last 12 years of my life.

As a side note, I did consult with Dr. Poesnecker (in PA) before he

pasted, over at least a year, and although my daily cortisol burden

was only 11 he didn't even bring up HC. I think that was very

irresponsible and cost me many years. Of course, every supplement he

sold me did nothing for me so here I am 7 years later.

I think maybe people should try isocort but if they don't notice

anything why keep waiting and waiting. It just isn't going to do

anything if that is indeed not enough for you.

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[Guest guest]

HC is short for hydrocortisone or Cortef (brand name).

rie

What exactly is HC. my friend is taking armour and cortisol, but it looks

like he should be taking whatever this HC is. Also, he is taking Dr.

's grandulars.

I have to agree with Val. I read Dr. s book many years ago

after many years of adrenal fatigue and noticed that he didn't stress

HC as much as I think he should've. Had I come across this group

years ago and had I found a doctor who didn't believe just like Dr.

does, that isocort or glandulars are the way to go I wouldn't

lost the last 12 years of my life.

As a side note, I did consult with Dr. Poesnecker (in PA) before he

pasted, over at least a year, and although my daily cortisol burden

was only 11 he didn't even bring up HC. I think that was very

irresponsible and cost me many years. Of course, every supplement he

sold me did nothing for me so here I am 7 years later.

I think maybe people should try isocort but if they don't notice

anything why keep waiting and waiting. It just isn't going to do

anything if that is indeed not enough for you.

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