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I just got my ferritin test back and was so diappointed. It was 51

now 53 one year later. No wonder I dont feel good.

Im taking Iron 18.....ferrous fumarate 18 mg 2 times a day. I need more

iron. What is the best item to improve iron? Im going shopping today

and woould like to know what to get!

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Kim,

Did you get a CBC also? Was your hemoglobin count out of line? A 51 for

ferritin is not

really that bad. You probably wouldn't notice any effects until it drops really

low, like

under 20, even then some people don't notice it, it would depend on what your

other

counts looked like. Do you supplement B vitamins also and Vit C? Like a greens

formula?

That will also help to build up your iron stores. Vit C taken with iron helps

you absorb the

iron better. If you're menopausal or getting closer to that time frame, you

need to be

careful about supplementing iron without proper testing.

Linn

>

> I just got my ferritin test back and was so diappointed. It was 51

> now 53 one year later. No wonder I dont feel good.

> Im taking Iron 18.....ferrous fumarate 18 mg 2 times a day. I need more

> iron. What is the best item to improve iron? Im going shopping today

> and woould like to know what to get!

>

> Kim

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I thought iron was suppose to be around 90? Im menopausal, taking

all sex hormones, vit c, not to tolerable, 1000 mg. Im on 1/4 tab of

florinel and my adolsterone came back 5. I cant seem to take more, I

swell up with fluid. I havent had a cbc done for awhile but I m just

running out of money and my husband is complaining.

Tell me why I thought 90...

thank you,

Kim

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Does anyone have a good link explaining the connection between low

ferritin and adrenal/thyroid problems? I am trying to understand all

of this.

Thanks,

Lynn

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It is thought here that ferritin of 70 to 90 is best, but I read one

book that stated 50 was ideal ferritin. The doctors who wrote that book

have their patients with ferritin of 90 donate blood to bring it down. I

don't know that 90 is high enough to require that, but be aware some

think it is too high.

My ferritin is way over 90, and too high. The only way to lower ferritin

is to get rid of blood. Since they still won't let me donate, I'm stuck

with high ferritin until I get another doctor. Phooey.

Any woman who still has cycles and needs to supplement iron to bring

ferritin up should be aware that continuing to supplement iron after

periods stop might lead to overly high ferritin. I've read high ferritin

interferes with thyroid hormones too.

If you want to raise ferritin, go slowly, test often, and check

symptoms. How well thyroid is utilized and how well you feel is the key.

Remember that once you stop having periods there is no way to get rid of

extra iron. Too high iron levels are associated with heart disease and

heart attacks, if I remember correctly. Iron levels raising after

menopause is one reason women's heart risks begin to equal men's after

ceasing to menstruate.

My guess would be if you are at 50 now, and have stopped cycling, your

ferritin will slowly raise without help. But I could be wrong.

sol

Kim wrote:

> I thought iron was suppose to be around 90? Im menopausal, taking

> all sex hormones, vit c, not to tolerable, 1000 mg. Im on 1/4 tab of

> florinel and my adolsterone came back 5. I cant seem to take more, I

> swell up with fluid. I havent had a cbc done for awhile but I m just

> running out of money and my husband is complaining.

>

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There's a lot of info around that says ferritin should be 80-90, depending on

the source,

but the range for normal is huge. Low normal is 9. Most doctors would not tell

you to

supplement at 30 or higher. It would depend on what some of your other blood

counts

were, especially if you're menopausal. Once you quit having periods, the heart

disease

risk increases, Sol was correct, it's due to not having the blood loss every

month. Women

who have hysterectomies also have increased heart risk and it should be

recommended to

them to donate blood once in a while, but most often it's not.

There are many reasons for ferritin to drop, but before supplementing iron,

especially in

menopausal women, other tests should be advised. While supplementing iron,

periodic

testing every couple of months should be done. Higher ferritin counts are

definitely not

good.

Linn

>

> I thought iron was suppose to be around 90? Im menopausal, taking

> all sex hormones, vit c, not to tolerable, 1000 mg. Im on 1/4 tab of

> florinel and my adolsterone came back 5. I cant seem to take more, I

> swell up with fluid. I havent had a cbc done for awhile but I m just

> running out of money and my husband is complaining.

>

> Tell me why I thought 90...

> thank you,

> Kim

>

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I've also wondered about those ferritin levels that are pushed on

STTM and realthryroidhelp. I too have read that taking iron

supplementation is very risky and some articles say never to

supplement with iron. Will try to find them.

Too high iron can make the blood thicker and cause platelets to

clump. Not a good thing.

As a menstruating woman I was always anemic. After meno my ferritin

is at 70, and I occasionally give blood to avoid it going to high.

It's also a hassle sometimes to find vitamins, foods that are not

iron fortified.

And yes, I have also read the theory on why women's risk of heart

disease raises after meno, and some feel it has nothing to do with

the estrogen factor, and everything to do with the thicker blood.

I'll try to find those articles/studies to back this up.

Naffy

> > I thought iron was suppose to be around 90? Im menopausal,

taking

> > all sex hormones, vit c, not to tolerable, 1000 mg. Im on 1/4

tab of

> > florinel and my adolsterone came back 5. I cant seem to take

more, I

> > swell up with fluid. I havent had a cbc done for awhile but I m

just

> > running out of money and my husband is complaining.

> >

>

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Quote:Too high iron can make the blood thicker and cause platelets to

clump. Not a good thing.

Then might this possibly cause miscarriages??? I have had several in

the past 8 months and was taking 150mg of iron. I was looking into

clotting issues causing miscarriages, and this makes sense to me.

Kim

> > > I thought iron was suppose to be around 90? Im menopausal,

> taking

> > > all sex hormones, vit c, not to tolerable, 1000 mg. Im on 1/4

> tab of

> > > florinel and my adolsterone came back 5. I cant seem to take

> more, I

> > > swell up with fluid. I havent had a cbc done for awhile but I m

> just

> > > running out of money and my husband is complaining.

> > >

> >

>

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Hi,

just a thought here, in my experience as someone with iron overload,

I need to keep ferritin down, but it's important to get a full

fasting iron panel to work out what your transferrin saturation is as

well.

With regard to the numbers for ferritin, it is usually suggested to

get it between 70-90 for someone who was low to begin with, someone

who for whatever reason doesn't store iron, or doesn't absorb iron

very well. For those of us who do absorb it well (or too well), then

it is better to look at between say 30 - 50.

It's not a case of one number fits all, as those who are

supplementing need to cover in between testing, and the likelihood

that the supplementing is skewing the testing... in which case, a

fluctation up to 90 might not be so bad - if it is temporary if that

makes sense, but going above that warrants stopping supps.

Aiming to keep it stable over 55 for those who are low and can

supplement can make all the difference with utilisation of other

supps.

Watching transferrin saturation and making sure it doesn't get too

high is important too, sometimes more important than ferritin reading.

There is a mechanism that the body uses in times of infection

called " acute phase reaction " and ferritin is an " acute phase

reactant " . As such, in the presence of viri or bacteria in teh blood,

the body will store away iron in the liver, as bacteria thrive on

iron rich blood, this will temporarily spike serum ferritin tests,

and reduce serum iron testing, and can confuse people, therefore, if

one is trying to maintain an iron level using serum testing, one test

cannot be used in isolation to manage the numbers, particularly as

one may be asymptomatic and infected simultaneously.

A white cell count which was taken from the same sample as the iron

panel showing elevated levels can confirm if infection is present in

this case, but won't always show it.

I'm not a medical person, this is just the understanding I Have of

the process from my first hand expereience, rightly or wrongly, but I

hope it helps...

Cat

> > > I thought iron was suppose to be around 90? Im menopausal,

> taking

> > > all sex hormones, vit c, not to tolerable, 1000 mg. Im on 1/4

> tab of

> > > florinel and my adolsterone came back 5. I cant seem to take

> more, I

> > > swell up with fluid. I havent had a cbc done for awhile but I m

> just

> > > running out of money and my husband is complaining.

> > >

> >

>

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how long does ferritin continue to raise after iron supplement is stopped? just

couple of days or does it take more than that?Also my total iron binding

capacity was at the very top of the limit. Is this fine or indicates a problem?

thanks alot.

nil

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Hi,

just a thought here, in my experience as someone with iron overload,

I need to keep ferritin down, but it's important to get a full

fasting iron panel to work out what your transferrin saturation is as

well.

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Hi Nil,

could you post the entire panel with ranges please? that could help.

Iron binding capacity (TIBC) goes up in iron deficiency, that is your

capacity to bind iron and store it increases, kind of similar to how

the thyroid swells to trap iodine in iodine deficiency (goiter aka

goitre), but it needs to be seen in combo with your other results,

particularly if there has been any illness.

a cheat sheet for the iron panel results:

http://www.labcorp.com/datasets/labcorp/html/chapter/mono/pr005600.htm

not neccesarily the be all and end all of information, but there is

lots of iron info out there thanks to our friend, google :-)

As I'm not an iron supplementer, I have iron overload although

mildly, I can only go on general consensus which is less than 4 days

or so post cessation of supplementation skewing serum testing.

I would suggest if you really want to test your stores rather than

what has been ingested recently that a week wouldn't be too long to

go without prior to testing.

Like I said, I don't supplement iron though, so hopefully others with

experience will share.

Cheers Cat :-)

>

> how long does ferritin continue to raise after iron supplement is

stopped? just couple of days or does it take more than that?Also my

total iron binding capacity was at the very top of the limit. Is this

fine or indicates a problem?

> thanks alot.

> nil

> Re: iron Supplements

>

>

> Hi,

>

> just a thought here, in my experience as someone with iron

overload,

> I need to keep ferritin down, but it's important to get a full

> fasting iron panel to work out what your transferrin saturation

is as

> well.

>

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Thank you very much.I am going to have tooth extraction today.. i will write

when when things are over.

thanks a lot

nil

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Hi Nil,

could you post the entire panel with ranges please? that could help.

Iron binding capacity (TIBC) goes up in iron deficiency, that is your

capacity to bind iron and store it increases, kind of similar to how

the thyroid swells to trap iodine in iodine deficiency (goiter aka

goitre), but

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Good Luck with the tooth Nil,

speak soon,

Cat

>

> Thank you very much.I am going to have tooth extraction today.. i

will write when when things are over.

> thanks a lot

> nil

> Re: iron Supplements

>

>

> Hi Nil,

>

> could you post the entire panel with ranges please? that could

help.

> Iron binding capacity (TIBC) goes up in iron deficiency, that is

your

> capacity to bind iron and store it increases, kind of similar to

how

> the thyroid swells to trap iodine in iodine deficiency (goiter

aka

> goitre), but

>

>

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Good Luck with the tooth Nil,

speak soon,

Cat

>

> Thank you very much.I am going to have tooth extraction today.. i

will write when when things are over.

> thanks a lot

> nil

> Re: iron Supplements

>

>

> Hi Nil,

>

> could you post the entire panel with ranges please? that could

help.

> Iron binding capacity (TIBC) goes up in iron deficiency, that is

your

> capacity to bind iron and store it increases, kind of similar to

how

> the thyroid swells to trap iodine in iodine deficiency (goiter

aka

> goitre), but

>

>

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Good Luck with the tooth Nil,

speak soon,

Cat

>

> Thank you very much.I am going to have tooth extraction today.. i

will write when when things are over.

> thanks a lot

> nil

> Re: iron Supplements

>

>

> Hi Nil,

>

> could you post the entire panel with ranges please? that could

help.

> Iron binding capacity (TIBC) goes up in iron deficiency, that is

your

> capacity to bind iron and store it increases, kind of similar to

how

> the thyroid swells to trap iodine in iodine deficiency (goiter

aka

> goitre), but

>

>

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Hi Cat

Thanks for your answer.My test results are as follows

this month two years ago

iron 93 (35-165) 71 (28-170)

TIBC 442 (250-450) 316 (228-400)

Ferritin 93 (6.9-323) 32 (13-150)

i also read that high TIBC is associated with low iron but my ferritin and iron

levels seem to be fine.I am confused.

I am also diagnosed with kidney insufficiency.

bw

nil

Re: iron Supplements

Hi Nil,

could you post the entire panel with ranges please? that could help.

Iron binding capacity (TIBC) goes up in iron deficiency, that is your

capacity to bind iron and store it increases, kind of similar to how

the thyroid swells to trap iodine in iodine deficiency (goiter aka

goitre), but it needs to be seen in combo with your other results,

particularly if there has been any illness.

a cheat sheet for the iron panel results:

http://www.labcorp.com/datasets/labcorp/html/chapter/mono/pr005600.htm

not neccesarily the be all and end all of information, but there is

lots

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Hi Nil,

hope the dentist went well :-)

You have an increase across all three of those numbers - do you have

transferrin and transferrin saturation (tsat%) results too?

But - different ranges have been used for the two different periods

also, so hard to compare apples with apples.

As you mention, the TIBC is on the high side for the other numbers,

perhaps the TF and Tsat% would help shed some light, sorry I'm not

more help here, I mainly deal with too much iron, so can only really

point you to sites with info to help you unravel this one.

Cat

>

> Hi Cat

>

> Thanks for your answer.My test results are as follows

>

> this month two years ago

>

> iron 93 (35-165) 71 (28-170)

>

> TIBC 442 (250-450) 316 (228-400)

>

> Ferritin 93 (6.9-323) 32 (13-150)

>

>

> i also read that high TIBC is associated with low iron but my

ferritin and iron levels seem to be fine.I am confused.

> I am also diagnosed with kidney insufficiency.

>

> bw

> nil

>

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thanks very much cat!

bw

nil

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Hi Nil,

hope the dentist went well :-)

You have an increase across all three of those numbers - do you have

transferrin and transferrin saturation (tsat%) results too?

But - different ranges have been used for the two different periods

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