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It sounds to me like hypoglycemia. Have you tried eatign protein at

bedtime and stopping all carb consumption by 5PM? What wakes you wiht

hypoglycemia is adrenaline, this causes the heart to oound and the veins

ot feel pumped up cause they are! It also causes a release of glucagon

from the liver which is wehy your body releases it.

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I don't eat any carbs, no bread, no flour, no sugars, no processed

foods, I am very strict about that. I make sure I eat protein with

every meal. I even eat a spoonful of almond butter.

I talked this morning to my doctor about it. He says I am slowly

normalizing, since I have to slowly and gradually adjust my body. He

added the cortisol and added more thyroid med, though not much.

I don't get this during the day, only at night.

My DHEA is 335 so I don't need any of this.

>

> It sounds to me like hypoglycemia. Have you tried eatign protein at

> bedtime and stopping all carb consumption by 5PM? What wakes you wiht

> hypoglycemia is adrenaline, this causes the heart to oound and the

veins

> ot feel pumped up cause they are! It also causes a release of

glucagon

> from the liver which is wehy your body releases it.

>

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> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

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> When I go to bed my heart is calm and I can manage to sleep for a

few

> hours. Then like often, I wake up and my heart races and my veins

on

> my arms always bulge. I do not get this during the day.

>

> I am not sure what is going on here. I am taking Isocort, two

pellets

> in the morning, and on nature-thyroid 1/2 plus 1/4 grain, which I

also

> take in the morning. During the day I feel fine. At night,

different

> story. I find when it acts this way I wake up more tired than

normal.

>

> Sometimes I think if it is the thyroid hormones kicking in when my

> cortisol levels are high at night.

>

> -

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Hi

It sounds like it could be adrenaline kicking in, maybe your body is

sensitive to your blood sugar dropping. Do you have a low carb snack

and protein before going to bed cos I find that this helps?

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I typically eat a big dinner and don't feel hungry when I go to bed.

I tried to eat a piece of bread with almond butter (can't have

peanuts), but bread, anykind, makes me sleepy.

I wonder if I need to have licorice with my meals to control it?

> >

> > When I go to bed my heart is calm and I can manage to sleep for a

> few

> > hours. Then like often, I wake up and my heart races and my

veins

> on

> > my arms always bulge. I do not get this during the day.

> >

> > I am not sure what is going on here. I am taking Isocort, two

> pellets

> > in the morning, and on nature-thyroid 1/2 plus 1/4 grain, which I

> also

> > take in the morning. During the day I feel fine. At night,

> different

> > story. I find when it acts this way I wake up more tired than

> normal.

> >

> > Sometimes I think if it is the thyroid hormones kicking in when

my

> > cortisol levels are high at night.

> >

> > -

> >

> Hi

>

> It sounds like it could be adrenaline kicking in, maybe your body

is

> sensitive to your blood sugar dropping. Do you have a low carb

snack

> and protein before going to bed cos I find that this helps?

>

> Pam

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It is because my corisol level is high at night, when it should be

low. It has nothing to do with my blood sugar. Last night I did a

test. I took licorice root before my meal. The meal I ate does not

bother my blood sugar, in fact the meals I eat at night, are the same

I eat during the day and they never cause me blood sugar problems. I

have been very careful with that.

Last night my heart raced like crazy, worse than the other night. It

was high enough to get my thyroid meds into my cells giving me sudden

surge.

Then to get the heart to stop racing I had to lower my cortisol. So

I used the herb Ashwagandha which will do that. Then my heart slowed

down to normal and I slept like a baby.

This morning, I have wonderful energy. If it was sugar issues, I

would be tired in the morning because I know what they do and I know

what foods to avoid.

I just love Ashwagandha!

>

> When I go to bed my heart is calm and I can manage to sleep for a

few

> hours. Then like often, I wake up and my heart races and my veins

on

> my arms always bulge. I do not get this during the day.

>

> I am not sure what is going on here. I am taking Isocort, two

pellets

> in the morning, and on nature-thyroid 1/2 plus 1/4 grain, which I

also

> take in the morning. During the day I feel fine. At night,

different

> story. I find when it acts this way I wake up more tired than

normal.

>

> Sometimes I think if it is the thyroid hormones kicking in when my

> cortisol levels are high at night.

>

> -

>

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Ashwaghanda lowers cortisol? Says who?

I thought it extended the LIFE of the cortisol we have. And I

thought it was an adaptogen....works on those with LOW cortisol?

> >

> > When I go to bed my heart is calm and I can manage to sleep for

a

> few

> > hours. Then like often, I wake up and my heart races and my

veins

> on

> > my arms always bulge. I do not get this during the day.

> >

> > I am not sure what is going on here. I am taking Isocort, two

> pellets

> > in the morning, and on nature-thyroid 1/2 plus 1/4 grain, which

I

> also

> > take in the morning. During the day I feel fine. At night,

> different

> > story. I find when it acts this way I wake up more tired than

> normal.

> >

> > Sometimes I think if it is the thyroid hormones kicking in when

my

> > cortisol levels are high at night.

> >

> > -

> >

>

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Modern herbalists classify Ashwagandha as an adaptogen. It adapts,

not only can it get you energy, it can also sedate you. So, I used

it to adapt my levels and I went to sleep.

Rhodiola is also good, I have that too. When I take too much it will

sedate me.

> > >

> > > When I go to bed my heart is calm and I can manage to sleep for

> a

> > few

> > > hours. Then like often, I wake up and my heart races and my

> veins

> > on

> > > my arms always bulge. I do not get this during the day.

> > >

> > > I am not sure what is going on here. I am taking Isocort, two

> > pellets

> > > in the morning, and on nature-thyroid 1/2 plus 1/4 grain, which

> I

> > also

> > > take in the morning. During the day I feel fine. At night,

> > different

> > > story. I find when it acts this way I wake up more tired than

> > normal.

> > >

> > > Sometimes I think if it is the thyroid hormones kicking in when

> my

> > > cortisol levels are high at night.

> > >

> > > -

> > >

> >

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Google Ashwagandha and cortisol. Why I slept, I used it to reduce my

cortisol and I slept like a baby.

Ashwagandha works in the treatment of stress by directly opposing the

reaction of stress as it reduces the amount of cortisol released by

the adrenal glands. Long term production of cortisol has adverse

effects on our health including: high blood pressure, stomach ulcers,

immune depression and insomnia. This delay in the release of cortisol

levels prevents the negative effects of long-term cortisol production

on the body and prevents the adrenals from becoming exhausted, a

direct anti-stress effect which has been reported by many

researchers. Ashwagandha also has a sedative effect which counteracts

the adrenaline-fueled anxiety that accompanies stressful lifestyles,

and has often been used to treat primary anxiety states. If your

sleep is disturbed, this sedative effect can be used to encourage

restful sleep, again helping the body to recover from the effects of

stress. It has been found that Ashwagandha increases the number of

immune cells known as T cells and B cells, helping to fight

infections. Furthermore, it prevents stress-related gastrointestinal

ulcers as well as the depletion of vitamin C, increases red blood

cell counts, endurance, stamina and lean weight, and improves

hemoglobin levels and aging parameters such as graying hair, calcium

levels, increased libido and sexual function. All these actions

directly oppose the effects of stress.

> > > >

> > > > When I go to bed my heart is calm and I can manage to sleep

for

> > a

> > > few

> > > > hours. Then like often, I wake up and my heart races and my

> > veins

> > > on

> > > > my arms always bulge. I do not get this during the day.

> > > >

> > > > I am not sure what is going on here. I am taking Isocort,

two

> > > pellets

> > > > in the morning, and on nature-thyroid 1/2 plus 1/4 grain,

which

> > I

> > > also

> > > > take in the morning. During the day I feel fine. At night,

> > > different

> > > > story. I find when it acts this way I wake up more tired

than

> > > normal.

> > > >

> > > > Sometimes I think if it is the thyroid hormones kicking in

when

> > my

> > > > cortisol levels are high at night.

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > >

> > >

> >

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How much Ashwagandha do you take at night? My ND has me on a cortisol

manager at night that has a blend of Ashwagandha, magnolia and

Phosphatidilserine. but i think they are rather low levels. so I

just wondered how much.

One reason i was afraid to do something like Ashwagandha or

Phosphatidilserine w/o supervision of an ND was because i wasn't sure

how much i should lower coritsol at night. The night coritsol level

confuses me most about adrenal fatigue.

for example, my overal cortisol is low. Per saliva test, the rhythem

is right (high a.m. and low at night) however, overall its low. but

my symptoms always seemed either a nighttime level of low cortisol or

super high cortisol because my symptoms are first: insomnia, and if

its really bad, its preceded by body shakes/jitters (like pots of

caffeine only i do no caffeine or sugar)... but only at night (and on

rare occasion during the day)...but mostly at night. so i couldn't

figure out if my cortisol completely crashed at night causing some

sort of adrenaline high from anxiety or just no cortisol...or if my

cortisol was just high to cause all of this. And almost always,

before starting my isocort / adrenal repair work, exercise at any

level (low or medium), at any time of day (early or late) caused the

body shakes/jitters and insomnia at night.

I'm going to my ND today anyway, but would be curious to hear what

others think.

oddly enough, after a few weeks of sleeping w/klonopin, i had another

insomnia episode last night (even w/klonopin), but this time, i was

only awake and not shaking. My body didn't feel like it needed to

move like it does when i usually have insomnia. I wonder if

i'm " retracing " my symptoms on the way to healing.

> > > > >

> > > > > When I go to bed my heart is calm and I can manage to sleep

> for

> > > a

> > > > few

> > > > > hours. Then like often, I wake up and my heart races and

my

> > > veins

> > > > on

> > > > > my arms always bulge. I do not get this during the day.

> > > > >

> > > > > I am not sure what is going on here. I am taking Isocort,

> two

> > > > pellets

> > > > > in the morning, and on nature-thyroid 1/2 plus 1/4 grain,

> which

> > > I

> > > > also

> > > > > take in the morning. During the day I feel fine. At

night,

> > > > different

> > > > > story. I find when it acts this way I wake up more tired

> than

> > > > normal.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sometimes I think if it is the thyroid hormones kicking in

> when

> > > my

> > > > > cortisol levels are high at night.

> > > > >

> > > > > -

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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How much Ashwagandha do you take at night? My ND has me on a cortisol

manager at night that has a blend of Ashwagandha, magnolia and

Phosphatidilserine. but i think they are rather low levels. so I

just wondered how much.

One reason i was afraid to do something like Ashwagandha or

Phosphatidilserine w/o supervision of an ND was because i wasn't sure

how much i should lower coritsol at night. The night coritsol level

confuses me most about adrenal fatigue.

for example, my overal cortisol is low. Per saliva test, the rhythem

is right (high a.m. and low at night) however, overall its low. but

my symptoms always seemed either a nighttime level of low cortisol or

super high cortisol because my symptoms are first: insomnia, and if

its really bad, its preceded by body shakes/jitters (like pots of

caffeine only i do no caffeine or sugar)... but only at night (and on

rare occasion during the day)...but mostly at night. so i couldn't

figure out if my cortisol completely crashed at night causing some

sort of adrenaline high from anxiety or just no cortisol...or if my

cortisol was just high to cause all of this. And almost always,

before starting my isocort / adrenal repair work, exercise at any

level (low or medium), at any time of day (early or late) caused the

body shakes/jitters and insomnia at night.

I'm going to my ND today anyway, but would be curious to hear what

others think.

oddly enough, after a few weeks of sleeping w/klonopin, i had another

insomnia episode last night (even w/klonopin), but this time, i was

only awake and not shaking. My body didn't feel like it needed to

move like it does when i usually have insomnia. I wonder if

i'm " retracing " my symptoms on the way to healing.

> > > > >

> > > > > When I go to bed my heart is calm and I can manage to sleep

> for

> > > a

> > > > few

> > > > > hours. Then like often, I wake up and my heart races and

my

> > > veins

> > > > on

> > > > > my arms always bulge. I do not get this during the day.

> > > > >

> > > > > I am not sure what is going on here. I am taking Isocort,

> two

> > > > pellets

> > > > > in the morning, and on nature-thyroid 1/2 plus 1/4 grain,

> which

> > > I

> > > > also

> > > > > take in the morning. During the day I feel fine. At

night,

> > > > different

> > > > > story. I find when it acts this way I wake up more tired

> than

> > > > normal.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sometimes I think if it is the thyroid hormones kicking in

> when

> > > my

> > > > > cortisol levels are high at night.

> > > > >

> > > > > -

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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I use Herb Pharm tincture extract. Here is a pic of it:

http://www.smartbomb.com/090700000059.html

I had some in my cabinet and when I had that attack I remembered

having it and decided to test it. I took a dropperful, probably 25

drops of it in about 1/2 cup of water and gulped it down. I went

back to bed and I remember falling asleep and I felt wonderful in the

morning.

I have read the tinctures are better to use than pills and you have

better control of how much you want to use. I decided that night, to

take a dropperful.

I am thinking to start using it at night, same amount and see how it

makes me feel.

I also have been reading about this:

Chyawanprash Pronounced CHA-WON- PROSH is a traditional Ayurvedic

herbal jam used for stress. Interesting history and it has

Ashwagandha in it.

http://tattvasherbs.com/herbsinfo.htm

http://www.tattvasherbs.com/aboutayurveda.htm

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> > > > > >

> > > > > > When I go to bed my heart is calm and I can manage to

sleep

> > for

> > > > a

> > > > > few

> > > > > > hours. Then like often, I wake up and my heart races and

> my

> > > > veins

> > > > > on

> > > > > > my arms always bulge. I do not get this during the day.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am not sure what is going on here. I am taking

Isocort,

> > two

> > > > > pellets

> > > > > > in the morning, and on nature-thyroid 1/2 plus 1/4 grain,

> > which

> > > > I

> > > > > also

> > > > > > take in the morning. During the day I feel fine. At

> night,

> > > > > different

> > > > > > story. I find when it acts this way I wake up more tired

> > than

> > > > > normal.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sometimes I think if it is the thyroid hormones kicking

in

> > when

> > > > my

> > > > > > cortisol levels are high at night.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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" wild.dingo " wrote:

> i wasn't sure

> how much i should lower coritsol at night. my overal cortisol is

low. Per saliva test, the rhythem

> is right (high a.m. and low at night) however, overall its low. but

> my symptoms always seemed either a nighttime level of low cortisol

or

> super high cortisol because my symptoms are first: insomnia, and if

> its really bad, its preceded by body shakes/jitters (like pots of

> caffeine only i do no caffeine or sugar)... but only at night (and

on rare occasion during the day)...but mostly at night.

This shaking is a low cortisol symptom. I call it vibrating and it's

most annoying when trying to sleep, especially at night. A little

bit of HC cream usually helps stop the shakes.

> exercise at any

> level (low or medium), at any time of day (early or late) caused

the body shakes/jitters and insomnia at night.

Anytime you exercise, you are stressing your body and using up what

little cortisol levels you have. This would lead to even lower

cortisol at night and cause the insomnia. If your adrenals are

really bad, you should NOT be exercising, but just taking it easy for

awhile. When I was really bad, a walk around the block was too

much. But I was able to keep up with my slow yoga stretches, so that

was better than nothing.

Barb

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" lynnkrt2 " wrote:

> This is the first time I have heard anyone else say they were

VIBRATING.

> That is what I feel like most of the time now. It's like the

shakes but

> only on the inside not the outside. Is this what you experience?

First time I noticed it was when I laid down for a nap and thought

the bed was vibrating, but since I don't have anything attached to

the bed, figured it was me. I've read it's a low

cortisol/hypoglycemic thing, because many hypoglycemics describe this

symptom.

> I thought it was related to high blood pressure. Or being caused

by the

> cortisol I am taking. So this is very interesting. I get this

> vibrating on and off during the day... usually not so bad when I

first

> wake up, and usually begin after I eat. I take the cortisol with

meals.

Well, my BP and pulse are still on the high side (anyone got ideas

what's causing that?), but I don't feel the full vibration anymore

after raising thyroid closer to optimal. Do have occasional buzzing

in the foot, and DH complains of occasional tingles in his fingers.

After discussion, we concluded that vibrating, buzzing, and tingling

are 3 different things LOL! I never had any of this till my adrenals

crashed, so it must be cortisol related. I think tingles and buzzing

might be from too high sugar, and vibrating is somehow related to

cortisol.

> Do you think this could mean I am not getting enough cortisol? I am

> taking 10-5-5. Have not been taking a night dose because the

cortisol test showed that I am high at night.

I would use Dr. Rind's temp graph to figure if you're on enough

cortisol. Do you sleep through the night okay? Once you supplement

cortisol, you don't have to worry about your previous rhythm, because

you've now changed it with your dosing. If you have problems

sleeping, you might change your dose to 7.5-5-5-2.5.

Barb

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