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> PLEASE do nto put ANY of our source names on the list. Have you

tried to

> contact them? They usualy take at least 2 weeks.

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> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

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http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

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No problem, sorry about that Val!

Yes i have tried 3-4 times to contact them and its been more than 2

weeks since my first order.

Im just curious about these people, if they are reliable, and if

anybody else who has ordered from them hasnt received there

order,ect.

I need to get my cortef already, and atleast KNOW that it IS coming.

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> I have ordered from them at least 5 times without trouble.

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> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

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http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

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Well thats good to hear but has anybody else ordered from them?

Why do they not return e-mails?

It would be nice to know whats going on with my order as its been

like 3 weeks and still nothing.

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HMM I have not had to contact them, so I don't kno if they are good

about returning messages, sound liek they are not.. Probably have to

hunt up an English speaking rep! LOL Maybe their supplies are low or

they had to order more in.

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> HMM I have not had to contact them, so I don't kno if they are good

> about returning messages, sound liek they are not.. Probably have to

> hunt up an English speaking rep! LOL Maybe their supplies are low or

> they had to order more in.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

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> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

>

Hi Val, haha speak of the devil i just got my order lol!

I was worried for the fact that they never returned my e-mails and its

been like 3 weeks.

Just being a nervous nelly, and the adrenal situation doesnt help!

But it looks like i actually got Prednisone, i thought i was getting

mexican Cortef. I looked and i guess they only sell Prednisone. I got

the 20mg tabs.

You recommended 5mg of Cortef in the morning and 2.5mg in the

afternoon for me.

Would this be the same for Prednisone? What is the difference between

Cortef and Prednisone?

Im doing another ZRT labs adrenal function test today because i want

to see where my Cortisol levels stand currently, as im not on any

other medication for hairloss, thyroid,ect, and i WAS on medication

last time i tested my adrenals in January.

Mabye my levels has changed i just wanted to find out.

Thanks Val!

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> > HMM I have not had to contact them, so I don't kno if they are

good

> > about returning messages, sound liek they are not.. Probably

have to

> > hunt up an English speaking rep! LOL Maybe their supplies are

low or

> > they had to order more in.

> >

> > --

> > Artistic Grooming-

Hurricane WV

> >

> > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

> >

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> >

>

>

> Hi Val, haha speak of the devil i just got my order lol!

>

>

> I was worried for the fact that they never returned my e-mails and

its

> been like 3 weeks.

>

>

> Just being a nervous nelly, and the adrenal situation doesnt help!

>

>

> But it looks like i actually got Prednisone, i thought i was

getting

> mexican Cortef. I looked and i guess they only sell Prednisone. I

got

> the 20mg tabs.

>

>

>

> You recommended 5mg of Cortef in the morning and 2.5mg in the

> afternoon for me.

>

>

> Would this be the same for Prednisone? What is the difference

between

> Cortef and Prednisone?

>

>

> Im doing another ZRT labs adrenal function test today because i

want

> to see where my Cortisol levels stand currently, as im not on any

> other medication for hairloss, thyroid,ect, and i WAS on

medication

> last time i tested my adrenals in January.

>

>

> Mabye my levels has changed i just wanted to find out.

>

>

>

> Thanks Val!

>

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> > > HMM I have not had to contact them, so I don't kno if they are

> good

> > > about returning messages, sound liek they are not.. Probably

> have to

> > > hunt up an English speaking rep! LOL Maybe their supplies are

> low or

> > > they had to order more in.

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> > > Artistic Grooming-

> Hurricane WV

> > >

> > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

> > >

> >

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> > >

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> > >

> >

> >

> > Hi Val, haha speak of the devil i just got my order lol!

> >

> >

> > I was worried for the fact that they never returned my e-mails

and

> its

> > been like 3 weeks.

> >

> >

> > Just being a nervous nelly, and the adrenal situation doesnt

help!

> >

> >

> > But it looks like i actually got Prednisone, i thought i was

> getting

> > mexican Cortef. I looked and i guess they only sell Prednisone.

I

> got

> > the 20mg tabs.

> >

> >

> >

> > You recommended 5mg of Cortef in the morning and 2.5mg in the

> > afternoon for me.

> >

> >

> > Would this be the same for Prednisone? What is the difference

> between

> > Cortef and Prednisone?

> >

> >

> > Im doing another ZRT labs adrenal function test today because i

> want

> > to see where my Cortisol levels stand currently, as im not on

any

> > other medication for hairloss, thyroid,ect, and i WAS on

> medication

> > last time i tested my adrenals in January.

> >

> >

> > Mabye my levels has changed i just wanted to find out.

> >

> >

> >

> > Thanks Val!

> >

>

Well now that i read about Prednisone im not going to touch it.

I just cant win can i?

The website said Corticosteroids and i figured it was Cortef.

It didnt say it was Prednisone for gods sakes.

All i want is some damn Cortef already this is extremely frustrating!

Well looks like i'll be waiting another month for some Cortef, just

great.

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5mg Pred equals 20mg HC. It is alot stronger. I would try to tkae 1/8

tab to start that would be a nibble off a 1/4 tab! Then you could double

that in about a week.

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I would not try to cut any smaller than 1/8 tab no way it could be

accurate. And Pred lasts longer than HC so you should be fine to start

with JUST the one dose, it lasts 8-12 hours depending on your system,.

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> Yes as a portion of the dose is released pretty quickly then it

tapers

> the rest the itme it is in your body.

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> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

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Okay great, thanks Val i really appreciate your help.

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> Yes as a portion of the dose is released pretty quickly then it

tapers

> the rest the itme it is in your body.

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> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

>

Hey Val, took my first Pred dose today.

Should i try and order Cortef and switch or just stay on the Pred?

Also, im getting tired after im eating, for example i had some

chicken fingers, a small bread roll, and a bit of greek pasta salad,

and im so exausted and tired right after i could go to sleep. Then

15 minutes later i got a headache.

What is this exactly? Is this insulin resistance or something?

Is the adrenals or thyroid causing this?

Thanks Val.

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> Too many carbs! PASTA is known to cause sleepiness! LOL Anyway, if

you

> feel OK on the Pred there is no need to upset the cart by changing.

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> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

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> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

>

Hi Val, lol, okay thanks for the help.

Sometime i do get tired after a big meal, and this is normal, but it

seems like its happeneing worse now. I think due to my adrenals or

thyroid,ect, i am suffering from some insulin resistance possibly.

I did a bioavailable Testosterone test a few days after that large

list of bloodwork i did on Nov/30/07, and my bioavailable

testosterone came back high. My Estradiol was also high normal.

I know that high insulin, can lower SHBG, and increase IGF-1,ect.

I just sent my second Adrenal Stress profile back to ZRT labs, along

with a Progesterone and IGF-1 blood spot test, to see whats

currently going on, and will report those results back to you when i

get them soon.

But a question about the Pred, is this a differet type of Cortisol

that our body makes? From what i understand Cortef contains Cortisol

that our body makes, but i dont know about the Pred.

Just wondering again if one would be more effective than the other

for this possible reason.

Also, day 2 on the Pred, im still fatigued in the morning and i can

see my face is holding obvious water, but in the evening my fatigue

gets better and my face doesnt look like its holding as much water

as the morning/afternoon.

After one month on the Pred, i should get my free T3/T4 levels

tested again right? Because being on the Pred will get Cortisol into

my body and might unmask possible lowered thyroid hormones?

Sorry for the questions Val, ive been doing a lot of research on

this stuff aswell, thats how i got directed to this site ( thank

god! ), as ive been forced to be my own doctor, and im just curious.

Thanks Val, your help is SO appreciated!

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> Pred must be converted in the Liver to cortisol before our bodies

can

> use it.

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Aaaaah, okay great Val thanks for that info.

Hopefully my liver is converting it optimally.

I have a couple of those mercury vet thermometers on the way form

ebay, the link you gave me, and will track my temps as soon as they

arrive too see if the adrenals are stable.

With those thermometers, how do i do a reading? Do i place it under

my tongue, or my armpit and how long do i hold it there for?

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> > Pred must be converted in the Liver to cortisol before our

bodies

> can

> > use it.

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> > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

> >

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> > http://www.seewell4less.com/Valspage.htm Medical Alert Bracelets

> >

>

>

> Aaaaah, okay great Val thanks for that info.

>

>

> Hopefully my liver is converting it optimally.

>

>

> I have a couple of those mercury vet thermometers on the way form

> ebay, the link you gave me, and will track my temps as soon as

they

> arrive too see if the adrenals are stable.

>

>

> With those thermometers, how do i do a reading? Do i place it

under

> my tongue, or my armpit and how long do i hold it there for?

>

I also wanted to point out that this is the 2nd morning ive taken

Pred, and i feel tired and got a pounding headache. I dont usually

get headaches so its related to the Pred some how.

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Check your BP, even if oyu have to find a machine in a store. Changes in

BP do cause headaches. Could also be fluid balance changing and sea salt

may help. With a merc thermometer, I use oral and 5 minnutes under the

tongue.

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http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

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