Re: New to group - many questions

[Guest guest]

I urge you to have the saliva cortisol tetsing done. It sounds ot me

liek you have some fairly severe adrenal fatigue and the only way ti

know what ot treat htat wiht ois by getting the 4 times coritosl labs.

you can order these yourself froom www.canaryclub.org and we can help

you wiht the results.

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[Guest guest]

Your symptoms sound like poorly functioning Adrenals(excess hair,

GI), and less low thyroid. Low adrenal function will effect your

thyroid hormone utilization, but I would start with Adrenal

supports, and lay off the Armour for now.

Marla

>

> Hi all,

> I am new to this group and have a few questions I am hoping some

of you can answer for me. I started taking Armour, 30mg twice

daily, 10 days ago. I was hopeful I would finally start to feel

better but I actually feel much worse. I have been taking an OTC

adrenal supplement, Adrenal Stress End, since the end of January.

Since starting the Armour, I am feeling much more fatigued and very

depressed. I am on the verge of tears or crying all day long.

Initially when I joined the group (last night), I was going to post

and ask how long I should expect to wait before feeling better. But

when reading the FAQs from the moderator, I read that Dr. Broda

recommends giving a dose of Prednisone when starting Armour

if the patient's blood pressure is too low in order to avoid having

the patient get worse. I wonder if that isn't my problem. A normal

bp for me is 88 over 58 up to 92 over 62. So I guess my

questions are:

>

> Should I contact my doctor and ask for a prednisone boost?

> Should I discontinue the Armour until my adrenals rebound?

> Is there a better adrenal supplement I can take that will work

better?

> A major obstacle for me right now (aside from my health) is that

my bloodwork always falls into " normal ranges " even though I have

90% of the symptoms of hypothryoidism, so most doctors refuse to

treat me. Luckily my sports med doc, who used to be a family

practitioner, agreed to write me a prescription for Armour based on

my symptoms and the feedback from the nutritionist she referred me

to. I am just shy of 39 years old and am accustomed to irregular

cycles, stubborn and pervasive acne, severe allergies, GI issues,

Reynaud's syndrome, excessive body hair, etc. and I have dealt with

those my entire life. The things I can't deal with are the extreme

fatigue, poor memory (forgot to pick kids up at school one day, for

example), and depression. I refuse to believe that none of my

symptoms are related and that an antidepressant will solve my

problems. The nutritionist continues to call my situation " sub-

clinical hypothyroidism " but the medical community

> doesn't seem to be on board.

>

> I would appreciate any advice anyone cares to offer. Thanks in

advance!

>

>

>

>

_____________________________________________________________________

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>

[Guest guest]

Have you ever tested for polycystic ovarian syndrome/disease? It

causes irregular periods, acne and excessive body hair. The dhea-s

is usually very high.

> >

> > Hi all,

> > I am new to this group and have a few questions I am hoping some

> of you can answer for me. I started taking Armour, 30mg twice

> daily, 10 days ago. I was hopeful I would finally start to feel

> better but I actually feel much worse. I have been taking an OTC

> adrenal supplement, Adrenal Stress End, since the end of January.

> Since starting the Armour, I am feeling much more fatigued and very

> depressed. I am on the verge of tears or crying all day long.

> Initially when I joined the group (last night), I was going to post

> and ask how long I should expect to wait before feeling better.

But

> when reading the FAQs from the moderator, I read that Dr. Broda

> recommends giving a dose of Prednisone when starting Armour

> if the patient's blood pressure is too low in order to avoid having

> the patient get worse. I wonder if that isn't my problem. A

normal

> bp for me is 88 over 58 up to 92 over 62. So I guess my

> questions are:

> >

> > Should I contact my doctor and ask for a prednisone boost?

> > Should I discontinue the Armour until my adrenals rebound?

> > Is there a better adrenal supplement I can take that will work

> better?

> > A major obstacle for me right now (aside from my health) is that

> my bloodwork always falls into " normal ranges " even though I have

> 90% of the symptoms of hypothryoidism, so most doctors refuse to

> treat me. Luckily my sports med doc, who used to be a family

> practitioner, agreed to write me a prescription for Armour based on

> my symptoms and the feedback from the nutritionist she referred me

> to. I am just shy of 39 years old and am accustomed to irregular

> cycles, stubborn and pervasive acne, severe allergies, GI issues,

> Reynaud's syndrome, excessive body hair, etc. and I have dealt with

> those my entire life. The things I can't deal with are the extreme

> fatigue, poor memory (forgot to pick kids up at school one day, for

> example), and depression. I refuse to believe that none of my

> symptoms are related and that an antidepressant will solve my

> problems. The nutritionist continues to call my situation " sub-

> clinical hypothyroidism " but the medical community

> > doesn't seem to be on board.

> >

> > I would appreciate any advice anyone cares to offer. Thanks in

> advance!

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

_____________________________________________________________________

> _______________

> > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page.

> > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

http://www.4woman.gov/faq/pcos.htm

A brief explanation on PCOS.

>

> Hi all,

> I am new to this group and have a few questions I am hoping some of

you can answer for me. I started taking Armour, 30mg twice daily, 10

days ago. I was hopeful I would finally start to feel better but I

actually feel much worse. I have been taking an OTC adrenal

supplement, Adrenal Stress End, since the end of January. Since

starting the Armour, I am feeling much more fatigued and very

depressed. I am on the verge of tears or crying all day long.

Initially when I joined the group (last night), I was going to post

and ask how long I should expect to wait before feeling better. But

when reading the FAQs from the moderator, I read that Dr. Broda

recommends giving a dose of Prednisone when starting Armour if

the patient's blood pressure is too low in order to avoid having the

patient get worse. I wonder if that isn't my problem. A normal bp

for me is 88 over 58 up to 92 over 62. So I guess my questions

are:

>

> Should I contact my doctor and ask for a prednisone boost?

> Should I discontinue the Armour until my adrenals rebound?

> Is there a better adrenal supplement I can take that will work

better?

> A major obstacle for me right now (aside from my health) is that my

bloodwork always falls into " normal ranges " even though I have 90% of

the symptoms of hypothryoidism, so most doctors refuse to treat me.

Luckily my sports med doc, who used to be a family practitioner,

agreed to write me a prescription for Armour based on my symptoms and

the feedback from the nutritionist she referred me to. I am just shy

of 39 years old and am accustomed to irregular cycles, stubborn and

pervasive acne, severe allergies, GI issues, Reynaud's syndrome,

excessive body hair, etc. and I have dealt with those my entire

life. The things I can't deal with are the extreme fatigue, poor

memory (forgot to pick kids up at school one day, for example), and

depression. I refuse to believe that none of my symptoms are related

and that an antidepressant will solve my problems. The nutritionist

continues to call my situation " sub-clinical hypothyroidism " but the

medical community

> doesn't seem to be on board.

>

> I would appreciate any advice anyone cares to offer. Thanks in

advance!

>

>

>

>

______________________________________________________________________

______________

> Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page.

> http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

>

>

[Guest guest]

http://www.4woman.gov/faq/pcos.htm

A brief explanation on PCOS.

>

> Hi all,

> I am new to this group and have a few questions I am hoping some of

you can answer for me. I started taking Armour, 30mg twice daily, 10

days ago. I was hopeful I would finally start to feel better but I

actually feel much worse. I have been taking an OTC adrenal

supplement, Adrenal Stress End, since the end of January. Since

starting the Armour, I am feeling much more fatigued and very

depressed. I am on the verge of tears or crying all day long.

Initially when I joined the group (last night), I was going to post

and ask how long I should expect to wait before feeling better. But

when reading the FAQs from the moderator, I read that Dr. Broda

recommends giving a dose of Prednisone when starting Armour if

the patient's blood pressure is too low in order to avoid having the

patient get worse. I wonder if that isn't my problem. A normal bp

for me is 88 over 58 up to 92 over 62. So I guess my questions

are:

>

> Should I contact my doctor and ask for a prednisone boost?

> Should I discontinue the Armour until my adrenals rebound?

> Is there a better adrenal supplement I can take that will work

better?

> A major obstacle for me right now (aside from my health) is that my

bloodwork always falls into " normal ranges " even though I have 90% of

the symptoms of hypothryoidism, so most doctors refuse to treat me.

Luckily my sports med doc, who used to be a family practitioner,

agreed to write me a prescription for Armour based on my symptoms and

the feedback from the nutritionist she referred me to. I am just shy

of 39 years old and am accustomed to irregular cycles, stubborn and

pervasive acne, severe allergies, GI issues, Reynaud's syndrome,

excessive body hair, etc. and I have dealt with those my entire

life. The things I can't deal with are the extreme fatigue, poor

memory (forgot to pick kids up at school one day, for example), and

depression. I refuse to believe that none of my symptoms are related

and that an antidepressant will solve my problems. The nutritionist

continues to call my situation " sub-clinical hypothyroidism " but the

medical community

> doesn't seem to be on board.

>

> I would appreciate any advice anyone cares to offer. Thanks in

advance!

>

>

>

>

______________________________________________________________________

______________

> Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page.

> http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

>

>

[Guest guest]

http://www.4woman.gov/faq/pcos.htm

A brief explanation on PCOS.

>

> Hi all,

> I am new to this group and have a few questions I am hoping some of

you can answer for me. I started taking Armour, 30mg twice daily, 10

days ago. I was hopeful I would finally start to feel better but I

actually feel much worse. I have been taking an OTC adrenal

supplement, Adrenal Stress End, since the end of January. Since

starting the Armour, I am feeling much more fatigued and very

depressed. I am on the verge of tears or crying all day long.

Initially when I joined the group (last night), I was going to post

and ask how long I should expect to wait before feeling better. But

when reading the FAQs from the moderator, I read that Dr. Broda

recommends giving a dose of Prednisone when starting Armour if

the patient's blood pressure is too low in order to avoid having the

patient get worse. I wonder if that isn't my problem. A normal bp

for me is 88 over 58 up to 92 over 62. So I guess my questions

are:

>

> Should I contact my doctor and ask for a prednisone boost?

> Should I discontinue the Armour until my adrenals rebound?

> Is there a better adrenal supplement I can take that will work

better?

> A major obstacle for me right now (aside from my health) is that my

bloodwork always falls into " normal ranges " even though I have 90% of

the symptoms of hypothryoidism, so most doctors refuse to treat me.

Luckily my sports med doc, who used to be a family practitioner,

agreed to write me a prescription for Armour based on my symptoms and

the feedback from the nutritionist she referred me to. I am just shy

of 39 years old and am accustomed to irregular cycles, stubborn and

pervasive acne, severe allergies, GI issues, Reynaud's syndrome,

excessive body hair, etc. and I have dealt with those my entire

life. The things I can't deal with are the extreme fatigue, poor

memory (forgot to pick kids up at school one day, for example), and

depression. I refuse to believe that none of my symptoms are related

and that an antidepressant will solve my problems. The nutritionist

continues to call my situation " sub-clinical hypothyroidism " but the

medical community

> doesn't seem to be on board.

>

> I would appreciate any advice anyone cares to offer. Thanks in

advance!

>

>

>

>

______________________________________________________________________

______________

> Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page.

> http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Val,

I am finally coming up for air this week and want to order the saliva test. If

I am going through the testing, I would prefer to test all levels of adrenals,

hormones, and thyroid - is there a test that is that comprehensive? If not,

exactly which one would you suggest I start with?

Thanks in advance,

Re: New to group - many questions

I urge you to have the saliva cortisol tetsing done. It sounds ot me

liek you have some fairly severe adrenal fatigue and the only way ti

know what ot treat htat wiht ois by getting the 4 times coritosl labs.

you can order these yourself froom www.canaryclub. org and we can help

you wiht the results.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthet hyroidmadness. com/

http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ NaturalThyroidHo rmonesADRENALS/

http://www.seewell4 less.com/ Valspage. htm Medical Alert Bracelets

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[Guest guest]

Go to www.canaryclub.org and I believe ZRT does them all.

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http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

[Guest guest]

Thank you. I found it and am ordering it. I am unsure of when to

use it, though, as my cycle is very abnormal and I don't really know

when days 19-21 are. Will it skew my results very much?

Thanks,

>

> Go to www.canaryclub.org and I believe ZRT does them all.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

>

[Guest guest]

Only the sex hormone results so just hit as close as you can.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

[Guest guest]

Only the sex hormone results so just hit as close as you can.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

[Guest guest]

>

> Thank you. I found it and am ordering it. I am unsure of when to

> use it, though, as my cycle is very abnormal and I don't really know

> when days 19-21 are. Will it skew my results very much?

Hi, I have similar issues (I had to wait 4 months to do the test after

getting the kit). When I got to day 19 I was pretty sure that I was

about to ovulate. I contacted the Canary Club & they told me that the

ideal sample is about halfway between ovulation & period. So I waited

7 days before taking the sample, my estimate of ovulation was correct

- but the post office mucked up the delivery, so I have another test

kit and am waiting again. I would suggest emailing Canary Club if you

want to be sure.

Cheers Jewel

[Guest guest]

You want to do the test 5-7 days after you ovulate. Your cervical

mucus will get very slimy and snotty when you're ovulating. Your

morning basal temperature will also drop to its lowest of the month.

Do the test 5-7 days after that time to get the best measure of your

estrogen and progesterone.

If you tend to have a 6 week cycle, you usually ovulate around the

4th week, but the cervical mucus and basal temp are your best

indicators.

Barb

" lindsaybill " wrote:

>

> Thank you. I found it and am ordering it. I am unsure of when to

> use it, though, as my cycle is very abnormal and I don't really

know

> when days 19-21 are. Will it skew my results very much?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

> >

> > Go to www.canaryclub.org and I believe ZRT does them all.

> >

> > --

> > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane

WV

> >

> > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

> >

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> >

>

[Guest guest]

You want to do the test 5-7 days after you ovulate. Your cervical

mucus will get very slimy and snotty when you're ovulating. Your

morning basal temperature will also drop to its lowest of the month.

Do the test 5-7 days after that time to get the best measure of your

estrogen and progesterone.

If you tend to have a 6 week cycle, you usually ovulate around the

4th week, but the cervical mucus and basal temp are your best

indicators.

Barb

" lindsaybill " wrote:

>

> Thank you. I found it and am ordering it. I am unsure of when to

> use it, though, as my cycle is very abnormal and I don't really

know

> when days 19-21 are. Will it skew my results very much?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

> >

> > Go to www.canaryclub.org and I believe ZRT does them all.

> >

> > --

> > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane

WV

> >

> > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

> >

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> >

>

[Guest guest]

One more question:

When I do receive the test, do I need to discontinue the Armour and

adrenal supplements before taking it? If so, for how long?

Thanks again,

>

> Only the sex hormone results so just hit as close as you can.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

>

[Guest guest]

One more question:

When I do receive the test, do I need to discontinue the Armour and

adrenal supplements before taking it? If so, for how long?

Thanks again,

>

> Only the sex hormone results so just hit as close as you can.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

>

[Guest guest]

You can take Armour as normal for saliva testing just do nto take it

sublingually day of testing, btu ANY adrenal supplements must be

stoppred TWO full weeks before testing.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

[Guest guest]

You can take Armour as normal for saliva testing just do nto take it

sublingually day of testing, btu ANY adrenal supplements must be

stoppred TWO full weeks before testing.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/