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Thank you sol for replying. I do remember you helping me when I had

the horrific outbreak of hives at Christmas. Fortunately that

finally went away and I have not had a recurrence....thank God. I

have diligently been working on cleaning up my diet, and detoxing my

liver, and I do beleive that has helped a lot.

My daugther is the one with eczema however. She optimized on t3 and

completely weaned off the HC and had been doing really well, but now

is having trouble with eczema breakouts again. Hers do not itch nor

are they painful. She had them before the t3 and HC, but now

they're back. They are more of a nuisance than anything, and now

that they are in the face area, she is uncomfortable as to how she

looks, understandably so.

I'm wondering if supplemental adrenal support would work, instead of

actually going BACK on HC?

Naffy

> > Curious to know if any of you have eczema? Also do you

correlate it

> > to hypo or adrenal? And how have you managed it?

> >

> >

> Naffy,

> I have eczema. Caused by allergies (mainly iodine). I manage it

with

> antihistamines dose and type dependent on the stage the skin

reaction is

> in, and by avoiding my food allergy substances as much as humanly

> possible. There isn't enough antihistamine on the planet to allow

me to

> eat things I'm allergic to and not suffer eczema/hives. So

avoidance and

> antihistamines go hand in hand. If you will go back and re-read

my

> posts from when you had hives, you will get a better idea of how I

> handle it. But in case I didn't say back then, my skin reactions

to

> allergens started with hives, and eventually went into eczema. The

hives

> were intolerable. The eczema was worse. Hives itch intolerably.

Eczema

> itches intolerably along with incredible pain, for me at least.

> I do believe allergies are related to adrenals/cortisol. So I'm

> experimenting to see if there is a dose of HC that will eliminate

my

> allergies. First I raised HC until I got to stable temps, then

raised so

> I could tolerate thyroid (which I could not do very well at the

dose

> where my temps first went stable), then I raised to where my BP

rose

> from laying down to standing. Now I'm experimenting to see if the

> allergies will go into remission at any dose of HC.

> sol

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I hope I can butt in here as I really need some help this morning. What a

blessing that I saved these posts on hives. My 26 year old daughter came

downstairs this morning begging me to make a doctor's appointment and showed me

her lower legs where she has scratched them bloody. She has adrenal and thyroid

issues big time,but keeps going and is in denial about the root causes of

feeling unwell much of the time.

Please would someone post a remedy for relief, then give details she can follow

to clean up her diet, etc. and really give a convincing testimony. I would

appreciate it so much. She has never taken time to look at this forum or even

understand the endocrine system, so this makes for a difficult case.

Thank you so much,

Pat

....thank God. I

have diligently been working on cleaning up my diet, and detoxing my

liver, and I do beleive that has helped a lot.

My daugther is the one with eczema however. She optimized on t3 and

completely weaned off the HC and had been doing really well, but now

is having trouble with eczema breakouts again. Hers do not itch nor

are they painful. She had them before the t3 and HC, but now

they're back. They are more of a nuisance than anything, and now

that they are in the face area, she is uncomfortable as to how she

looks, understandably so.

I'm wondering if supplemental adrenal support would work, instead of

actually going BACK on HC?

Naffy

> > Curious to know if any of you have eczema? Also do you

correlate it

> > to hypo or adrenal? And how have you managed it?

> >

> >

> Naffy,

> I have eczema. Caused by allergies (mainly iodine). I manage it

with

> antihistamines dose and type dependent on the stage the skin

reaction is

> in, and by avoiding my food allergy substances as much as humanly

> possible. There isn't enough antihistamine on the planet to allow

me to

> eat things I'm allergic to and not suffer eczema/hives. So

avoidance and

> antihistamines go hand in hand. If you will go back and re-read

my

> posts from when you had hives, you will get a better idea of how I

> handle it. But in case I didn't say back then, my skin reactions

to

> allergens started with hives, and eventually went into eczema. The

hives

> were intolerable. The eczema was worse. Hives itch intolerably.

Eczema

> itches intolerably along with incredible pain, for me at least.

> I do believe allergies are related to adrenals/cortisol. So I'm

> experimenting to see if there is a dose of HC that will eliminate

my

> allergies. First I raised HC until I got to stable temps, then

raised so

> I could tolerate thyroid (which I could not do very well at the

dose

> where my temps first went stable), then I raised to where my BP

rose

> from laying down to standing. Now I'm experimenting to see if the

> allergies will go into remission at any dose of HC.

> sol

>

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Hmm, I've not heard of eczema that doesn't itch--it is often called " the

itch that rashes, as the itch usually starts before any rash becomes

evident). However, when I am having an eczema attack, I do get very red,

and often scaly patches on my face, plus acne like breakouts. My face

also doesn't itch though. So I hesitate to say this cannot be eczema.

Whether I have actual eczema on my face or not, mine is definitely at

least connected to real eczema elsewhere on my body.

I don't know if any adrenal support other than HC would work. No

experience with that. But if HC worked, why not use it? Start with the

ramp up schedule again?

Maybe try a very little topical cream HC on the affected areas? I'd also

be trying to find dietary triggers. I'd also try her on antihistamine

and see if that helps. If it is an IgE histamine reaction,

antihistamines should help.

sol

nafoel wrote:

> Hers do not itch nor

> are they painful. She had them before the t3 and HC, but now

> they're back. They are more of a nuisance than anything, and now

> that they are in the face area, she is uncomfortable as to how she

> looks, understandably so.

>

> I'm wondering if supplemental adrenal support would work, instead of

> actually going BACK on HC?

>

>

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Bless you, Naffy, that is just what we needed. I've been trying to reply all

morning, but laptop repeatedly hibernates. Having a daughter in the same age

bracket as my daughter really helps you understand where I am. She has an

appointment this afternoon, and I'm guessing will get something topical to

apply.

Now we have it in black and white that what you eat does make a difference - not

just " ole Mom " talking. I'm so glad to see what worked for you. It's clear to

me that we both have leaky gut syndrome. I'm sure it was caused by Candida and

it will help when we get thyroid and adrenals regulated. Thank's again and

again for your wonderful reply and the helpful doctor's link.

Best Regards

Pat.

Pat....I did find this link which might be helpful for your daughter

to read

http://www.thedoctorwithin.com/index_fr.php?

page=articles/allergies_reactivity.php

I consulted with this dr. once over the phone. He's very , umm,

let's say " intense' and his articles are a bit offensive. But he is

passionate about his beliefs, and I do feel he is on the right

track. Of course, credibility walks out the door, when you are then

asked to buy into his 'products', But I didn't buy anything....and

am doing my own cleanup. I feel what he has to say is

important.....hope it helps you with your daughter.

Naffy

> > > > Curious to know if any of you have eczema? Also do you

> > correlate it

> > > > to hypo or adrenal? And how have you managed it?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > Naffy,

> > > I have eczema. Caused by allergies (mainly iodine). I manage

> it

> > with

> > > antihistamines dose and type dependent on the stage the skin

> > reaction is

> > > in, and by avoiding my food allergy substances as much as

> humanly

> > > possible. There isn't enough antihistamine on the planet to

> allow

> > me to

> > > eat things I'm allergic to and not suffer eczema/hives. So

> > avoidance and

> > > antihistamines go hand in hand. If you will go back and re-

> read

> > my

> > > posts from when you had hives, you will get a better idea of

> how I

> > > handle it. But in case I didn't say back then, my skin

> reactions

> > to

> > > allergens started with hives, and eventually went into

eczema.

> The

> > hives

> > > were intolerable. The eczema was worse. Hives itch

> intolerably.

> > Eczema

> > > itches intolerably along with incredible pain, for me at

least.

> > > I do believe allergies are related to adrenals/cortisol. So

> I'm

> > > experimenting to see if there is a dose of HC that will

> eliminate

> > my

> > > allergies. First I raised HC until I got to stable temps,

then

> > raised so

> > > I could tolerate thyroid (which I could not do very well at

> the

> > dose

> > > where my temps first went stable), then I raised to where my

> BP

> > rose

> > > from laying down to standing. Now I'm experimenting to see

if

> the

> > > allergies will go into remission at any dose of HC.

> > > sol

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Yes we always found it strange that hers do not itch, but have

consulted several dermatologists and all conclude eczema or

dermatitis, which they say is the same family. I really don't want

to get her on the antihistamine roller coaster...I've read where if

you abuse them, you could build a resistance, and when you actually

need them they won't do their job. Also read where in the long run,

antihistamines might work to actually produce more allergic

reactions. In any case, would rather save the big guns for dire

needs.

She has applied HC cream on each eruption. Clears up temporarily

then comes back later....somewhere else. It;'s as if they travel

looking for a way out. Suppressing just doesn't seem to be the

answer.

I am beleiving more in more in the 'toxic overload' theory. We get

to a toxic 'threshold' and then the body just goes into attack mode.

But it is very hard to tell a 24 year old what to eat.

Yes HC could work again....but after all the weaning etc....what a

hassle no? But it may have to be done if this gets worse.

Thanks always for your input!

Naffy

> > Hers do not itch nor

> > are they painful. She had them before the t3 and HC, but now

> > they're back. They are more of a nuisance than anything, and

now

> > that they are in the face area, she is uncomfortable as to how

she

> > looks, understandably so.

> >

> > I'm wondering if supplemental adrenal support would work,

instead of

> > actually going BACK on HC?

> >

> >

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Good luck with the dr's visit!

Post later on what worked for her. We're all in this struggle

together.

Naffy

> > > > > Curious to know if any of you have eczema? Also do you

> > > correlate it

> > > > > to hypo or adrenal? And how have you managed it?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > Naffy,

> > > > I have eczema. Caused by allergies (mainly iodine). I

manage

> > it

> > > with

> > > > antihistamines dose and type dependent on the stage the

skin

> > > reaction is

> > > > in, and by avoiding my food allergy substances as much as

> > humanly

> > > > possible. There isn't enough antihistamine on the planet

to

> > allow

> > > me to

> > > > eat things I'm allergic to and not suffer eczema/hives. So

> > > avoidance and

> > > > antihistamines go hand in hand. If you will go back and re-

> > read

> > > my

> > > > posts from when you had hives, you will get a better idea

of

> > how I

> > > > handle it. But in case I didn't say back then, my skin

> > reactions

> > > to

> > > > allergens started with hives, and eventually went into

> eczema.

> > The

> > > hives

> > > > were intolerable. The eczema was worse. Hives itch

> > intolerably.

> > > Eczema

> > > > itches intolerably along with incredible pain, for me at

> least.

> > > > I do believe allergies are related to adrenals/cortisol.

So

> > I'm

> > > > experimenting to see if there is a dose of HC that will

> > eliminate

> > > my

> > > > allergies. First I raised HC until I got to stable temps,

> then

> > > raised so

> > > > I could tolerate thyroid (which I could not do very well

at

> > the

> > > dose

> > > > where my temps first went stable), then I raised to where

my

> > BP

> > > rose

> > > > from laying down to standing. Now I'm experimenting to see

> if

> > the

> > > > allergies will go into remission at any dose of HC.

> > > > sol

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Yes, I have also read a lot about the importance of Omega 3's for

the skin/allergies etc.

I'm confused as to which would be better....omega 3 from fish

(mercury?) or from the flaxseed oil (not good for thyroid?).

I've ordered the Udos' Choice Omega 3-6-9, but am not sure if this

is the best or not.

Naffy

>

> I have found taking lots of Omega 3 suppliments helps my skin a

lot, besides what the Armour does.

>

> It is also helping my brain. I'm thinking clearer. But not to the

point where I've been able to cut the AD's. But I'm using those to

cope with the sleep deprivation from my sleep apnea.

>

> Hensley <>< 8-)

>

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Thank you, Cherie. Certainly worth checking it out.

RE: Eczema

I have had problems in the past with Dyshidrosis Eczema (blisters all over

my hands). For a long time the only treatment was steroids. Then my primary

doctor had me try Singulair and it worked. I had tried antihistimes before

with no success at at, but since Sinuglir works differently, I thought it

was worth a shot. I figured it was better than prednisone. Anyway I took it

for at least a year and once the breakouts cleared up I didn't have any more

come up. One of the problems with it is the skin is so sensitive when it is

new that it keeps breaking out. I don't take it regularly anymore, just if I

notice a breakout about to happen, but that has been awhile. This may not be

helpful with your dd, but I thought I'd mention it. here's a link if you

want ot see what it looks like.

Rie

A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy

enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright

> Thank you sol for replying. I do remember you helping me when I had

> the horrific outbreak of hives at Christmas. Fortunately that

> finally went away and I have not had a recurrence....thank God. I

> have diligently been working on cleaning up my diet, and detoxing my

> liver, and I do beleive that has helped a lot.

>

> My daugther is the one with eczema however. She optimized on t3 and

> completely weaned off the HC and had been doing really well, but now

> is having trouble with eczema breakouts again. Hers do not itch nor

> are they painful. She had them before the t3 and HC, but now

> they're back. They are more of a nuisance than anything, and now

> that they are in the face area, she is uncomfortable as to how she

> looks, understandably so.

>

> I'm wondering if supplemental adrenal support would work, instead of

> actually going BACK on HC?

>

> Naffy

>

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That's good to know, as I got some borage oil yesterday. The Omega 3's help so

many things.

Thank's

Pat

Eczema

I have found taking lots of Omega 3 suppliments helps my skin a lot, besides

what the Armour does.

It is also helping my brain. I'm thinking clearer. But not to the point where

I've been able to cut the AD's. But I'm using those to cope with the sleep

deprivation from my sleep apnea.

Hensley <>< 8-)

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Could you recommend which Omega 3 oil is best? I purchased Udo's

Omega 3-6-9, but now see it is derived from vegetable sources,

mainly flaxseed. Then, I read that one should not take fish oil,

due to the mercury content.

Which Omega oil would be best for us thyro people???

naffy

>

> That's good to know, as I got some borage oil yesterday. The

Omega 3's help so many things.

>

> Thank's

>

> Pat

> Eczema

>

>

> I have found taking lots of Omega 3 suppliments helps my skin a

lot, besides what the Armour does.

>

> It is also helping my brain. I'm thinking clearer. But not to

the point where I've been able to cut the AD's. But I'm using those

to cope with the sleep deprivation from my sleep apnea.

>

> Hensley <>< 8-)

>

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Try to find info about mercury content before you panic over this. Or

find a molecularly distilled product to substitute.

My son also uses cod liver oil, I can find out what brand if you like.

sol

jasrich wrote:

> I've been using Artic Cod Liver Oil and thought that I was doing a

> good thing. So we need to avoid it b/c of mercury?

>

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Well, my daughter came home with perscriptions for a topical cream,

Triamcinolone acetonide which seems to be helping the breakouts. Also

Prednizone and Doxycyclene. I explained what all that does to adrenals as well

as kidneys and liver, and hopefully, if she can do a detox, she'll never need

drugs like these again

Thank's for the good testimonies and protocals.

Pat

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Good luck with the dr's visit!

Post later on what worked for her. We're all in this struggle

together.

Naffy

> > > > > Curious to know if any of you have eczema? Also do you

> > > correlate it

> > > > > to hypo or adrenal? And how have you managed it?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > Naffy,

> > > > I have eczema. Caused by allergies (mainly iodine). I

manage

> > it

> > > with

> > > > antihistamines dose and type dependent on the stage the

skin

> > > reaction is

> > > > in, and by avoiding my food allergy substances as much as

> > humanly

> > > > possible. There isn't enough antihistamine on the planet

to

> > allow

> > > me to

> > > > eat things I'm allergic to and not suffer eczema/hives. So

> > > avoidance and

> > > > antihistamines go hand in hand. If you will go back and re-

> > read

> > > my

> > > > posts from when you had hives, you will get a better idea

of

> > how I

> > > > handle it. But in case I didn't say back then, my skin

> > reactions

> > > to

> > > > allergens started with hives, and eventually went into

> eczema.

> > The

> > > hives

> > > > were intolerable. The eczema was worse. Hives itch

> > intolerably.

> > > Eczema

> > > > itches intolerably along with incredible pain, for me at

> least.

> > > > I do believe allergies are related to adrenals/cortisol.

So

> > I'm

> > > > experimenting to see if there is a dose of HC that will

> > eliminate

> > > my

> > > > allergies. First I raised HC until I got to stable temps,

> then

> > > raised so

> > > > I could tolerate thyroid (which I could not do very well

at

> > the

> > > dose

> > > > where my temps first went stable), then I raised to where

my

> > BP

> > > rose

> > > > from laying down to standing. Now I'm experimenting to see

> if

> > the

> > > > allergies will go into remission at any dose of HC.

> > > > sol

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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