Guest guest Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 Thank you sol for replying. I do remember you helping me when I had the horrific outbreak of hives at Christmas. Fortunately that finally went away and I have not had a recurrence....thank God. I have diligently been working on cleaning up my diet, and detoxing my liver, and I do beleive that has helped a lot. My daugther is the one with eczema however. She optimized on t3 and completely weaned off the HC and had been doing really well, but now is having trouble with eczema breakouts again. Hers do not itch nor are they painful. She had them before the t3 and HC, but now they're back. They are more of a nuisance than anything, and now that they are in the face area, she is uncomfortable as to how she looks, understandably so. I'm wondering if supplemental adrenal support would work, instead of actually going BACK on HC? Naffy > > Curious to know if any of you have eczema? Also do you correlate it > > to hypo or adrenal? And how have you managed it? > > > > > Naffy, > I have eczema. Caused by allergies (mainly iodine). I manage it with > antihistamines dose and type dependent on the stage the skin reaction is > in, and by avoiding my food allergy substances as much as humanly > possible. There isn't enough antihistamine on the planet to allow me to > eat things I'm allergic to and not suffer eczema/hives. So avoidance and > antihistamines go hand in hand. If you will go back and re-read my > posts from when you had hives, you will get a better idea of how I > handle it. But in case I didn't say back then, my skin reactions to > allergens started with hives, and eventually went into eczema. The hives > were intolerable. The eczema was worse. Hives itch intolerably. Eczema > itches intolerably along with incredible pain, for me at least. > I do believe allergies are related to adrenals/cortisol. So I'm > experimenting to see if there is a dose of HC that will eliminate my > allergies. First I raised HC until I got to stable temps, then raised so > I could tolerate thyroid (which I could not do very well at the dose > where my temps first went stable), then I raised to where my BP rose > from laying down to standing. Now I'm experimenting to see if the > allergies will go into remission at any dose of HC. > sol > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 I hope I can butt in here as I really need some help this morning. What a blessing that I saved these posts on hives. My 26 year old daughter came downstairs this morning begging me to make a doctor's appointment and showed me her lower legs where she has scratched them bloody. She has adrenal and thyroid issues big time,but keeps going and is in denial about the root causes of feeling unwell much of the time. Please would someone post a remedy for relief, then give details she can follow to clean up her diet, etc. and really give a convincing testimony. I would appreciate it so much. She has never taken time to look at this forum or even understand the endocrine system, so this makes for a difficult case. Thank you so much, Pat ....thank God. I have diligently been working on cleaning up my diet, and detoxing my liver, and I do beleive that has helped a lot. My daugther is the one with eczema however. She optimized on t3 and completely weaned off the HC and had been doing really well, but now is having trouble with eczema breakouts again. Hers do not itch nor are they painful. She had them before the t3 and HC, but now they're back. They are more of a nuisance than anything, and now that they are in the face area, she is uncomfortable as to how she looks, understandably so. I'm wondering if supplemental adrenal support would work, instead of actually going BACK on HC? Naffy > > Curious to know if any of you have eczema? Also do you correlate it > > to hypo or adrenal? And how have you managed it? > > > > > Naffy, > I have eczema. Caused by allergies (mainly iodine). I manage it with > antihistamines dose and type dependent on the stage the skin reaction is > in, and by avoiding my food allergy substances as much as humanly > possible. There isn't enough antihistamine on the planet to allow me to > eat things I'm allergic to and not suffer eczema/hives. So avoidance and > antihistamines go hand in hand. If you will go back and re-read my > posts from when you had hives, you will get a better idea of how I > handle it. But in case I didn't say back then, my skin reactions to > allergens started with hives, and eventually went into eczema. The hives > were intolerable. The eczema was worse. Hives itch intolerably. Eczema > itches intolerably along with incredible pain, for me at least. > I do believe allergies are related to adrenals/cortisol. So I'm > experimenting to see if there is a dose of HC that will eliminate my > allergies. First I raised HC until I got to stable temps, then raised so > I could tolerate thyroid (which I could not do very well at the dose > where my temps first went stable), then I raised to where my BP rose > from laying down to standing. Now I'm experimenting to see if the > allergies will go into remission at any dose of HC. > sol > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.3/1307 - Release Date: 3/2/2008 3:59 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 Hmm, I've not heard of eczema that doesn't itch--it is often called " the itch that rashes, as the itch usually starts before any rash becomes evident). However, when I am having an eczema attack, I do get very red, and often scaly patches on my face, plus acne like breakouts. My face also doesn't itch though. So I hesitate to say this cannot be eczema. Whether I have actual eczema on my face or not, mine is definitely at least connected to real eczema elsewhere on my body. I don't know if any adrenal support other than HC would work. No experience with that. But if HC worked, why not use it? Start with the ramp up schedule again? Maybe try a very little topical cream HC on the affected areas? I'd also be trying to find dietary triggers. I'd also try her on antihistamine and see if that helps. If it is an IgE histamine reaction, antihistamines should help. sol nafoel wrote: > Hers do not itch nor > are they painful. She had them before the t3 and HC, but now > they're back. They are more of a nuisance than anything, and now > that they are in the face area, she is uncomfortable as to how she > looks, understandably so. > > I'm wondering if supplemental adrenal support would work, instead of > actually going BACK on HC? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 Bless you, Naffy, that is just what we needed. I've been trying to reply all morning, but laptop repeatedly hibernates. Having a daughter in the same age bracket as my daughter really helps you understand where I am. She has an appointment this afternoon, and I'm guessing will get something topical to apply. Now we have it in black and white that what you eat does make a difference - not just " ole Mom " talking. I'm so glad to see what worked for you. It's clear to me that we both have leaky gut syndrome. I'm sure it was caused by Candida and it will help when we get thyroid and adrenals regulated. Thank's again and again for your wonderful reply and the helpful doctor's link. Best Regards Pat. Pat....I did find this link which might be helpful for your daughter to read http://www.thedoctorwithin.com/index_fr.php? page=articles/allergies_reactivity.php I consulted with this dr. once over the phone. He's very , umm, let's say " intense' and his articles are a bit offensive. But he is passionate about his beliefs, and I do feel he is on the right track. Of course, credibility walks out the door, when you are then asked to buy into his 'products', But I didn't buy anything....and am doing my own cleanup. I feel what he has to say is important.....hope it helps you with your daughter. Naffy > > > > Curious to know if any of you have eczema? Also do you > > correlate it > > > > to hypo or adrenal? And how have you managed it? > > > > > > > > > > > Naffy, > > > I have eczema. Caused by allergies (mainly iodine). I manage > it > > with > > > antihistamines dose and type dependent on the stage the skin > > reaction is > > > in, and by avoiding my food allergy substances as much as > humanly > > > possible. There isn't enough antihistamine on the planet to > allow > > me to > > > eat things I'm allergic to and not suffer eczema/hives. So > > avoidance and > > > antihistamines go hand in hand. If you will go back and re- > read > > my > > > posts from when you had hives, you will get a better idea of > how I > > > handle it. But in case I didn't say back then, my skin > reactions > > to > > > allergens started with hives, and eventually went into eczema. > The > > hives > > > were intolerable. The eczema was worse. Hives itch > intolerably. > > Eczema > > > itches intolerably along with incredible pain, for me at least. > > > I do believe allergies are related to adrenals/cortisol. So > I'm > > > experimenting to see if there is a dose of HC that will > eliminate > > my > > > allergies. First I raised HC until I got to stable temps, then > > raised so > > > I could tolerate thyroid (which I could not do very well at > the > > dose > > > where my temps first went stable), then I raised to where my > BP > > rose > > > from laying down to standing. Now I'm experimenting to see if > the > > > allergies will go into remission at any dose of HC. > > > sol > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- -- > ----------- > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.3/1307 - Release Date: > 3/2/2008 3:59 PM > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 Yes we always found it strange that hers do not itch, but have consulted several dermatologists and all conclude eczema or dermatitis, which they say is the same family. I really don't want to get her on the antihistamine roller coaster...I've read where if you abuse them, you could build a resistance, and when you actually need them they won't do their job. Also read where in the long run, antihistamines might work to actually produce more allergic reactions. In any case, would rather save the big guns for dire needs. She has applied HC cream on each eruption. Clears up temporarily then comes back later....somewhere else. It;'s as if they travel looking for a way out. Suppressing just doesn't seem to be the answer. I am beleiving more in more in the 'toxic overload' theory. We get to a toxic 'threshold' and then the body just goes into attack mode. But it is very hard to tell a 24 year old what to eat. Yes HC could work again....but after all the weaning etc....what a hassle no? But it may have to be done if this gets worse. Thanks always for your input! Naffy > > Hers do not itch nor > > are they painful. She had them before the t3 and HC, but now > > they're back. They are more of a nuisance than anything, and now > > that they are in the face area, she is uncomfortable as to how she > > looks, understandably so. > > > > I'm wondering if supplemental adrenal support would work, instead of > > actually going BACK on HC? > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 Good luck with the dr's visit! Post later on what worked for her. We're all in this struggle together. Naffy > > > > > Curious to know if any of you have eczema? Also do you > > > correlate it > > > > > to hypo or adrenal? And how have you managed it? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Naffy, > > > > I have eczema. Caused by allergies (mainly iodine). I manage > > it > > > with > > > > antihistamines dose and type dependent on the stage the skin > > > reaction is > > > > in, and by avoiding my food allergy substances as much as > > humanly > > > > possible. There isn't enough antihistamine on the planet to > > allow > > > me to > > > > eat things I'm allergic to and not suffer eczema/hives. So > > > avoidance and > > > > antihistamines go hand in hand. If you will go back and re- > > read > > > my > > > > posts from when you had hives, you will get a better idea of > > how I > > > > handle it. But in case I didn't say back then, my skin > > reactions > > > to > > > > allergens started with hives, and eventually went into > eczema. > > The > > > hives > > > > were intolerable. The eczema was worse. Hives itch > > intolerably. > > > Eczema > > > > itches intolerably along with incredible pain, for me at > least. > > > > I do believe allergies are related to adrenals/cortisol. So > > I'm > > > > experimenting to see if there is a dose of HC that will > > eliminate > > > my > > > > allergies. First I raised HC until I got to stable temps, > then > > > raised so > > > > I could tolerate thyroid (which I could not do very well at > > the > > > dose > > > > where my temps first went stable), then I raised to where my > > BP > > > rose > > > > from laying down to standing. Now I'm experimenting to see > if > > the > > > > allergies will go into remission at any dose of HC. > > > > sol > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > ----------- > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.3/1307 - Release > Date: > > 3/2/2008 3:59 PM > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 Yes, I have also read a lot about the importance of Omega 3's for the skin/allergies etc. I'm confused as to which would be better....omega 3 from fish (mercury?) or from the flaxseed oil (not good for thyroid?). I've ordered the Udos' Choice Omega 3-6-9, but am not sure if this is the best or not. Naffy > > I have found taking lots of Omega 3 suppliments helps my skin a lot, besides what the Armour does. > > It is also helping my brain. I'm thinking clearer. But not to the point where I've been able to cut the AD's. But I'm using those to cope with the sleep deprivation from my sleep apnea. > > Hensley <>< 8-) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 Thank you, Cherie. Certainly worth checking it out. RE: Eczema I have had problems in the past with Dyshidrosis Eczema (blisters all over my hands). For a long time the only treatment was steroids. Then my primary doctor had me try Singulair and it worked. I had tried antihistimes before with no success at at, but since Sinuglir works differently, I thought it was worth a shot. I figured it was better than prednisone. Anyway I took it for at least a year and once the breakouts cleared up I didn't have any more come up. One of the problems with it is the skin is so sensitive when it is new that it keeps breaking out. I don't take it regularly anymore, just if I notice a breakout about to happen, but that has been awhile. This may not be helpful with your dd, but I thought I'd mention it. here's a link if you want ot see what it looks like. Rie A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright > Thank you sol for replying. I do remember you helping me when I had > the horrific outbreak of hives at Christmas. Fortunately that > finally went away and I have not had a recurrence....thank God. I > have diligently been working on cleaning up my diet, and detoxing my > liver, and I do beleive that has helped a lot. > > My daugther is the one with eczema however. She optimized on t3 and > completely weaned off the HC and had been doing really well, but now > is having trouble with eczema breakouts again. Hers do not itch nor > are they painful. She had them before the t3 and HC, but now > they're back. They are more of a nuisance than anything, and now > that they are in the face area, she is uncomfortable as to how she > looks, understandably so. > > I'm wondering if supplemental adrenal support would work, instead of > actually going BACK on HC? > > Naffy > No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.2/1305 - Release Date: 2/29/2008 6:32 PM ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.3/1308 - Release Date: 3/3/2008 10:01 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 That's good to know, as I got some borage oil yesterday. The Omega 3's help so many things. Thank's Pat Eczema I have found taking lots of Omega 3 suppliments helps my skin a lot, besides what the Armour does. It is also helping my brain. I'm thinking clearer. But not to the point where I've been able to cut the AD's. But I'm using those to cope with the sleep deprivation from my sleep apnea. Hensley <>< 8-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 Could you recommend which Omega 3 oil is best? I purchased Udo's Omega 3-6-9, but now see it is derived from vegetable sources, mainly flaxseed. Then, I read that one should not take fish oil, due to the mercury content. Which Omega oil would be best for us thyro people??? naffy > > That's good to know, as I got some borage oil yesterday. The Omega 3's help so many things. > > Thank's > > Pat > Eczema > > > I have found taking lots of Omega 3 suppliments helps my skin a lot, besides what the Armour does. > > It is also helping my brain. I'm thinking clearer. But not to the point where I've been able to cut the AD's. But I'm using those to cope with the sleep deprivation from my sleep apnea. > > Hensley <>< 8-) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 Try to find info about mercury content before you panic over this. Or find a molecularly distilled product to substitute. My son also uses cod liver oil, I can find out what brand if you like. sol jasrich wrote: > I've been using Artic Cod Liver Oil and thought that I was doing a > good thing. So we need to avoid it b/c of mercury? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 Well, my daughter came home with perscriptions for a topical cream, Triamcinolone acetonide which seems to be helping the breakouts. Also Prednizone and Doxycyclene. I explained what all that does to adrenals as well as kidneys and liver, and hopefully, if she can do a detox, she'll never need drugs like these again Thank's for the good testimonies and protocals. Pat Re: Eczema Good luck with the dr's visit! Post later on what worked for her. We're all in this struggle together. Naffy > > > > > Curious to know if any of you have eczema? Also do you > > > correlate it > > > > > to hypo or adrenal? And how have you managed it? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Naffy, > > > > I have eczema. Caused by allergies (mainly iodine). I manage > > it > > > with > > > > antihistamines dose and type dependent on the stage the skin > > > reaction is > > > > in, and by avoiding my food allergy substances as much as > > humanly > > > > possible. There isn't enough antihistamine on the planet to > > allow > > > me to > > > > eat things I'm allergic to and not suffer eczema/hives. So > > > avoidance and > > > > antihistamines go hand in hand. If you will go back and re- > > read > > > my > > > > posts from when you had hives, you will get a better idea of > > how I > > > > handle it. But in case I didn't say back then, my skin > > reactions > > > to > > > > allergens started with hives, and eventually went into > eczema. > > The > > > hives > > > > were intolerable. The eczema was worse. Hives itch > > intolerably. > > > Eczema > > > > itches intolerably along with incredible pain, for me at > least. > > > > I do believe allergies are related to adrenals/cortisol. So > > I'm > > > > experimenting to see if there is a dose of HC that will > > eliminate > > > my > > > > allergies. First I raised HC until I got to stable temps, > then > > > raised so > > > > I could tolerate thyroid (which I could not do very well at > > the > > > dose > > > > where my temps first went stable), then I raised to where my > > BP > > > rose > > > > from laying down to standing. Now I'm experimenting to see > if > > the > > > > allergies will go into remission at any dose of HC. > > > > sol > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > ----------- > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.3/1307 - Release > Date: > > 3/2/2008 3:59 PM > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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