Re: Re: about dosing cortef

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Proabbly are similar as high cortisol lowers estrogen and even in men,

too low estrogen can cause the same sympotoims>

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> I thought hot flashes were a LOW cortisol symptom?

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sol

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>> . I you get shaky or hot 1-2 hours after

>> Cortisol or HC dose it means High Cortisols and you should lower

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[Guest guest]

Have done since starting in Sept. I'm up to 35 mg and have NO symptoms

of high cortisol. But do still have hot flashes, as I have had for

umpteen years.

sol

biglovepress wrote:

> Are you following the dosing suggestions on SSTM?

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>>> I thought hot flashes were a LOW cortisol symptom?

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[Guest guest]

Have done since starting in Sept. I'm up to 35 mg and have NO symptoms

of high cortisol. But do still have hot flashes, as I have had for

umpteen years.

sol

biglovepress wrote:

> Are you following the dosing suggestions on SSTM?

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>>> I thought hot flashes were a LOW cortisol symptom?

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[Guest guest]

>>Have done since starting in Sept. I'm up to 35 mg and have NO symptoms

of high cortisol. But do still have hot flashes, as I have had for

umpteen years.

sol<<

How is your estrogen?

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wrote:

> But do still have hot flashes, as I have had for

> umpteen years.

> sol<<

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> How is your estrogen?

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Hi Val,

Saliva test results from last Sept:

estradiol 6 (normal range no hrt, post meno, 1-4)

progesterone 235 (normal range no hrt, post meno, 5-95)

free testosterone 14 (normal 8-20)

DHEA 2 (normal 3-10)

I included all sex hormone results, just in case, though as has been

discussed here many times, saliva for sex hormones may not be that accurate.

Is it true that supplemental progesterone can remain in the body for up

to 90 days? If that is correct, my results may be skewed high because I

may have used topical progesterone about 60 days before my salaiva test.

I have felt WORSE taking supplemental estradiol, worse taking topical

progesterone cream, and worse taking even 6 mg DHEA (tried it again a

few weeks ago).

According to Dr. Lee's site and info, I do have many symptoms of

estrogen dominance, if that means anything.

sol

[Guest guest]

Saliva test results from last Sept:

estradiol 6 (normal range no hrt, post meno, 1-4)

progesterone 235 (normal range no hrt, post meno, 5-95)

free testosterone 14 (normal 8-20)

DHEA 2 (normal 3-10)

I think you should opt for some serum testing for these. What I am seeing is

possibe progesterone dominance which yoiu SELDOM hear abotu but which can cause

some BIG problems. Basically progesterone can be a chameleon hormone in that it

cna biind to other receptors as well as it's own. Including cortisol and

estrogen! When it binds to those receptors it does not ACT like those hormones

but blocks their action instead making you resistance to the hormones it is

blocking. Thus why progesterione can actually raise cortios by blocking it ;s

recepotors so it si not being utilized properly and the ATCH goes higher as the

body still needs cortisl. I have heard that the body cannot use DHEA properly

wiht low estrogen. So it is a synergistic thing why you are not able to tolerate

these individual hormones. BTW can you tell I ma doing my sex hormone homework

right now? LOL I will try to refind the site that talked bout progesteroine

binding to other receptors as it explained it pretty clearly.

http://www.nature.com/nm/journal/v2/n5/abs/nm0596-556.html

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Thanks, Val,

I will try to get serum testing but probably can't do that for another

couple of months.

Anything I can safely try meantine? Try estradiol (vagifem) again (I

have it on hand) or get premarin to try?

What do I do about my HC and T3 doses? Keep working up T3?

I just raised to 81.25 mcg yesterday and am having headaches today.

thanks,

sol

wrote:

> Saliva test results from last Sept:

> estradiol 6 (normal range no hrt, post meno, 1-4)

> progesterone 235 (normal range no hrt, post meno, 5-95)

> free testosterone 14 (normal 8-20)

> DHEA 2 (normal 3-10)

>

> I think you should opt for some serum testing for these. What I am seeing is

possibe progesterone dominance which yoiu SELDOM hear abotu but which can cause

some BIG problems. Basically progesterone can be a chameleon hormone in that it

cna biind to other receptors as well as it's own. Including cortisol and

estrogen! When it binds to those receptors it does not ACT like those hormones

but blocks their action instead making you resistance to the hormones it is

blocking. Thus why progesterione can actually raise cortios by blocking it ;s

recepotors so it si not being utilized properly and the ATCH goes higher as the

body still needs cortisl. I have heard that the body cannot use DHEA properly

wiht low estrogen. So it is a synergistic thing why you are not able to tolerate

these individual hormones. BTW can you tell I ma doing my sex hormone homework

right now? LOL I will try to refind the site that talked bout progesteroine

binding to other receptors as it explained it pretty clearly.

> http://www.nature.com/nm/journal/v2/n5/abs/nm0596-556.html

>

>

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I think I would try the Vagifem for now and hold the T3 dose where it

is. Change one thing at a time.. Not like I do... LOL

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wrote:

> I think I would try the Vagifem for now and hold the T3 dose where it

> is. Change one thing at a time.. Not like I do... LOL

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To be clear, hold this latest T3 raise or drop back to previous dose,

since I only raised yesterday?

LOL, I am very guilty of changing too much at once, and have regretted

it often.

thanks yet again,

sol

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I would try to hold htis latest raise as your temps are still low.

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