Re: Why can't I stay hydrated?

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It COULD be related to high glucose. Have you had it vchecked recently?

Diabetes causes extreme thirst.,

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> It COULD be related to high glucose. Have you had it vchecked recently?

> Diabetes causes extreme thirst.,

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Thanks Val,

I actually have hypoglycemia. In fact it's a huge problem for me. In

terms of the dehydration, I feel like it's the result of an

electrolyte imbalance of sorts. It's not so much that I'm always

thirsty, I just get these headaches and feel really beat in the

mornings. My urine is also very dark in color. Drinking water with sea

salt seems to help though...

[Guest guest]

I have experienced the very same thing. I get super dehydrated at

night, I have to keep water by my bed. I started out at .1mg of

Florinef, then thought I must need more because of the dehydration so

I upped it another .5. That didn't help, so I went back to .1 for

awhile. Then I started getting horrid headaches and waking up with

swollen fingers. So I went down to .5. It seems to help with the

dehydration, but I'm still getting headaches. I'm very frustrated

myself~I hope both of us can get the answers we need.

I think too much Florinef might cause trouble as well as too little!

BTW I tested my glucose several times and my numbers are normal.

Kim

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> > It COULD be related to high glucose. Have you had it vchecked

recently?

> > Diabetes causes extreme thirst.,

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> Thanks Val,

>

> I actually have hypoglycemia. In fact it's a huge problem for me. In

> terms of the dehydration, I feel like it's the result of an

> electrolyte imbalance of sorts. It's not so much that I'm always

> thirsty, I just get these headaches and feel really beat in the

> mornings. My urine is also very dark in color. Drinking water with

sea

> salt seems to help though...

>

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> > >

> > > It COULD be related to high glucose. Have you had it vchecked

> recently?

> > > Diabetes causes extreme thirst.,

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> > >

> > Thanks Val,

> >

> > I actually have hypoglycemia. In fact it's a huge problem for me.

In

> > terms of the dehydration, I feel like it's the result of an

> > electrolyte imbalance of sorts. It's not so much that I'm always

> > thirsty, I just get these headaches and feel really beat in the

> > mornings. My urine is also very dark in color. Drinking water

with

> sea

> > salt seems to help though...

> >

>Good to know I'm not alone!! I hope we both find some answers very

soon!

[Guest guest]

If I could order the tests that he does....I'd have really gave him a piece of

my mind...but.....the US Gov't and the FDA doesn't allow all that...LOL...My

chest pains have been bad for quite some time...so I want the reassurance that

all is ok with the ticker before I go to upping my thyroid meds and let the

palps bump up my chances of a heart attack.....so, I'll use him to get the ekg

and stress test results....I will not take his cholesterol and BP meds....it

ain't gonna happen.....he think's I'm the stupid one....

Terri

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[Guest guest]

Terri, have you read Broda ' Hypothyroidism: the Unsuspected

Illness? I just finished the chapter on heart attacks and he says

that hypo causes high blood pressure, high cholesterol, and

atherosclerosis. He still gives heart attack patients thyroid and

they improve, he just starts them on a small dose and raises slowly.

And of course, you'll need adrenal support. Don't let any test

results deter you from taking thyroid, if you're hypo and need it.

Because NOT treating your hypo will only make any heart condition

worse, not better.

Barb

>

> If I could order the tests that he does....I'd have really gave him

a piece of my mind...but.....the US Gov't and the FDA doesn't allow

all that...LOL...My chest pains have been bad for quite some

time...so I want the reassurance that all is ok with the ticker

before I go to upping my thyroid meds and let the palps bump up my

chances of a heart attack.....so, I'll use him to get the ekg and

stress test results....I will not take his cholesterol and BP

meds....it ain't gonna happen.....he think's I'm the stupid one....

> Terri

>

>

> Terri Stovall, ND

> Traditionl Naturopathic Doctor

> Get Healthy, LLC

> www.inhw.org

> Nature's Sunshine Herbal Supplements

>

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> You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of

Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost.

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>

[Guest guest]

This just sounds all too familiar. Of the 20 something docs I have been

to in the past 20 years, I never got anything reasonable from them.

Think they are trying to make us sick? so they can prescribe the meds

and please the drug companies? At the very least they don't seem to

care any more whether we are sick or not. I can remember when docs

really cared!

I hope your stress test and ekg are fine!

Good luck.

Lynn

>

> If I could order the tests that he does....I'd have really gave him a

piece of my mind...but.....the US Gov't and the FDA doesn't allow all

that...LOL...My chest pains have been bad for quite some time...so I

want the reassurance that all is ok with the ticker before I go to

upping my thyroid meds and let the palps bump up my chances of a heart

attack.....so, I'll use him to get the ekg and stress test results....I

will not take his cholesterol and BP meds....it ain't gonna

happen.....he think's I'm the stupid one....

> Terri

[Guest guest]

This just sounds all too familiar. Of the 20 something docs I have been

to in the past 20 years, I never got anything reasonable from them.

Think they are trying to make us sick? so they can prescribe the meds

and please the drug companies? At the very least they don't seem to

care any more whether we are sick or not. I can remember when docs

really cared!

I hope your stress test and ekg are fine!

Good luck.

Lynn

>

> If I could order the tests that he does....I'd have really gave him a

piece of my mind...but.....the US Gov't and the FDA doesn't allow all

that...LOL...My chest pains have been bad for quite some time...so I

want the reassurance that all is ok with the ticker before I go to

upping my thyroid meds and let the palps bump up my chances of a heart

attack.....so, I'll use him to get the ekg and stress test results....I

will not take his cholesterol and BP meds....it ain't gonna

happen.....he think's I'm the stupid one....

> Terri

[Guest guest]

OK, this is a bit of a rant, BUT as I learn more and more about functional

medicine and start to help people who have nowhere to go and have been told they

are just getting olk or some other ridicculous excuse, I get pretty disgusted

with my profession.? The problem with this country is that everything is run by

money, to the extent that since so many studies are funded by drug companies

that is all that is taught and all that we are exposed to unless we dig and fo

out looking for other stuff. In addition, millions of dollars are spent on cat

scans and other expensive tests without looking at the basics AND the patient

for fear of getting sued (and trust me, it is HELL).? If I complain, I will

probably lose my license for being a quack, but all of you guys need to scream

loadly to Washington.? Universal Healthcare will just be lots of worthless tests

and xrays for everyone and the stuff that so many people need will continue to

be ignored.? The system needs a radical overhaul!

[Guest guest]

OK, this is a bit of a rant, BUT as I learn more and more about functional

medicine and start to help people who have nowhere to go and have been told they

are just getting olk or some other ridicculous excuse, I get pretty disgusted

with my profession.? The problem with this country is that everything is run by

money, to the extent that since so many studies are funded by drug companies

that is all that is taught and all that we are exposed to unless we dig and fo

out looking for other stuff. In addition, millions of dollars are spent on cat

scans and other expensive tests without looking at the basics AND the patient

for fear of getting sued (and trust me, it is HELL).? If I complain, I will

probably lose my license for being a quack, but all of you guys need to scream

loadly to Washington.? Universal Healthcare will just be lots of worthless tests

and xrays for everyone and the stuff that so many people need will continue to

be ignored.? The system needs a radical overhaul!

[Guest guest]

Terri you are wise to not take his BP andcholesterol meds. Thyroid will

correct both. While I never had chest pain I did have Congestive Heart

Failure which caused an unbelievable shortness of breath and weakness!

During that I was given Atenolol for my 245/148 BP and it almost killed

me. It pushed me into Myexedma Coma. All while on 500mcg Synthroid.

Back then my cholesterol was 640... I was told my thyroid was normal...

That's what listening to a butthead like that did for me, and OH I had

tht trust your doctor ground into me. You have no idea what a leap of

faith it took for me ot start sea salt in that condition! But that and

going straight to 3 grains of Armoru is what pulled me out of it. T3

protects the heart and that I will swear to this day. I lived with palps

and pounding heart for quite a few years after that and now it is pretty

much gone, just a remaining shortness of breath when I get too fat as I

am now! but nothing like I had.

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[Guest guest]

Terri you are wise to not take his BP andcholesterol meds. Thyroid will

correct both. While I never had chest pain I did have Congestive Heart

Failure which caused an unbelievable shortness of breath and weakness!

During that I was given Atenolol for my 245/148 BP and it almost killed

me. It pushed me into Myexedma Coma. All while on 500mcg Synthroid.

Back then my cholesterol was 640... I was told my thyroid was normal...

That's what listening to a butthead like that did for me, and OH I had

tht trust your doctor ground into me. You have no idea what a leap of

faith it took for me ot start sea salt in that condition! But that and

going straight to 3 grains of Armoru is what pulled me out of it. T3

protects the heart and that I will swear to this day. I lived with palps

and pounding heart for quite a few years after that and now it is pretty

much gone, just a remaining shortness of breath when I get too fat as I

am now! but nothing like I had.

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http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

[Guest guest]

Terri you are wise to not take his BP andcholesterol meds. Thyroid will

correct both. While I never had chest pain I did have Congestive Heart

Failure which caused an unbelievable shortness of breath and weakness!

During that I was given Atenolol for my 245/148 BP and it almost killed

me. It pushed me into Myexedma Coma. All while on 500mcg Synthroid.

Back then my cholesterol was 640... I was told my thyroid was normal...

That's what listening to a butthead like that did for me, and OH I had

tht trust your doctor ground into me. You have no idea what a leap of

faith it took for me ot start sea salt in that condition! But that and

going straight to 3 grains of Armoru is what pulled me out of it. T3

protects the heart and that I will swear to this day. I lived with palps

and pounding heart for quite a few years after that and now it is pretty

much gone, just a remaining shortness of breath when I get too fat as I

am now! but nothing like I had.

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http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

[Guest guest]

>> The system needs a radical overhaul<<

You said a mouthful here. I couldn;t agree more. Starting wiht the FDA and

Insurance companies thta have driven this then right on through the

pharmaceuticl companies they all need to be dismantled and started over wiht

people that have been ill running them! In the last 2 uears I have lost two

friends.. One to CHF and they swore his thyroid wa normal.. sound familiar? I

saw his labs.. almost NO T3 when I begged and begged for hiim to have testing.

Another to Septic Shock.. Se had such bad adrenals I knew she was going to

collapse soon. She had NO signs of infection on autopsy. But died in a hospital

of SHOCK. No one there suggested giving her steroids. If I knwo two people in my

small group of friends.. how many others are dying needlessly every day from bad

medical care? My mother and her father both were suicides. Mom at 35 her Dad at

40. Guess where I got my Hashi's from?

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[Guest guest]

>> The system needs a radical overhaul<<

You said a mouthful here. I couldn;t agree more. Starting wiht the FDA and

Insurance companies thta have driven this then right on through the

pharmaceuticl companies they all need to be dismantled and started over wiht

people that have been ill running them! In the last 2 uears I have lost two

friends.. One to CHF and they swore his thyroid wa normal.. sound familiar? I

saw his labs.. almost NO T3 when I begged and begged for hiim to have testing.

Another to Septic Shock.. Se had such bad adrenals I knew she was going to

collapse soon. She had NO signs of infection on autopsy. But died in a hospital

of SHOCK. No one there suggested giving her steroids. If I knwo two people in my

small group of friends.. how many others are dying needlessly every day from bad

medical care? My mother and her father both were suicides. Mom at 35 her Dad at

40. Guess where I got my Hashi's from?

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http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

[Guest guest]

Doctors used to diagnose by symptoms and actually look at their patient.

Now all they do is diagnose by the ink on the lab report. I thought it

was " first do no harm " . Well I have lost 20 years of my life because of

irresponsible medical care.

Lynn

>

> OK, this is a bit of a rant, BUT as I learn more and more about

functional medicine and start to help people who have nowhere to go and

have been told they are just getting olk or some other ridicculous

excuse, I get pretty disgusted with my profession.? The problem with

this country is that everything is run by money, to the extent that

since so many studies are funded by drug companies that is all that is

taught and all that we are exposed to unless we dig and fo out looking

for other stuff. In addition, millions of dollars are spent on cat scans

and other expensive tests without looking at the basics AND the patient

for fear of getting sued (and trust me, it is HELL).? If I complain, I

will probably lose my license for being a quack, but all of you guys

need to scream loadly to Washington.? Universal Healthcare will just be

lots of worthless tests and xrays for everyone and the stuff that so

many people need will continue to be ignored.? The system needs a

radical overhaul!

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Me too Lynn, 20 years. I hate to think of where I would be now if I

had not found these groups.

Darla

> >

> > OK, this is a bit of a rant, BUT as I learn more and more about

> functional medicine and start to help people who have nowhere to go

and

> have been told they are just getting olk or some other ridicculous

> excuse, I get pretty disgusted with my profession.? The problem with

> this country is that everything is run by money, to the extent that

> since so many studies are funded by drug companies that is all that

is

> taught and all that we are exposed to unless we dig and fo out

looking

> for other stuff. In addition, millions of dollars are spent on cat

scans

> and other expensive tests without looking at the basics AND the

patient

> for fear of getting sued (and trust me, it is HELL).? If I

complain, I

> will probably lose my license for being a quack, but all of you guys

> need to scream loadly to Washington.? Universal Healthcare will

just be

> lots of worthless tests and xrays for everyone and the stuff that so

> many people need will continue to be ignored.? The system needs a

> radical overhaul!

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

hi

NTH group suggested i join cuz of my uncommon adrenal tests results.

i have tested as High cortisol (on saliva tests)

and FInally just tested my aldosterone and renin

and

both aldosterone and renin were high! (but not so high that my dr was

concerned

adrenal fatigue (but DR doesn't believe in that

i have swelling, especially when i add Sea salt.

(more than 1/4 tsp per day) i also have swelling around ankles and

calves ofcourse but also wrists/hands, and eyes --that comes and goes

during each day...

and have been super thirsty!

? have any of you tested your ALdosterone and renin before going on

meds?

what were yours like?

?is there anyone here who has " rehydrated " themselves naturally??

ie the right combo of water/na/k??

thanks

-Carol

PS, my bad thirst symptoms and also my electric/tingly (cushings

symptom) muscle/headache symptoms went away last year..

the Calm PRT helped a lot with the tingling/fizzy feeling.

>

> I have experienced the very same thing. I get super dehydrated at

> night, I have to keep water by my bed. I started out at .1mg of

> Florinef, then thought I must need more because of the dehydration

so

> I upped it another .5. That didn't help, so I went back to .1 for

> awhile. Then I started getting horrid headaches and waking up with

> swollen fingers. So I went down to .5. It seems to help with the

> dehydration, but I'm still getting headaches. I'm very frustrated

> myself~I hope both of us can get the answers we need.

>

> I think too much Florinef might cause trouble as well as too

little!

>

> BTW I tested my glucose several times and my numbers are normal.

>

>

> Kim

[Guest guest]

One of the best ways to help early adrenal fatigue with high cortils is

to raise the thyroid levels. TYhis takes the strain off the adrenals an

should help lower them. Phosphatidyl Serine is helpful as well as Zinc.

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[Guest guest]

Darla,

20 years, what a waste! I am so happy I have found these groups too,

but just found them in December I think. So have a lot to work on and a

lot to learn. I am picking up all the bits of information I can.

Thanks to all of you here. The internet is truly a wonderful place

where we can all share. It's tough going it alone, which I did for so

many years. Really appreciate this group. Thank you Val.

Lynn

> > >

> > > OK, this is a bit of a rant, BUT as I learn more and more about

> > functional medicine and start to help people who have nowhere to go

> and

> > have been told they are just getting olk or some other ridicculous

> > excuse, I get pretty disgusted with my profession.? The problem with

> > this country is that everything is run by money, to the extent that

> > since so many studies are funded by drug companies that is all that

> is

> > taught and all that we are exposed to unless we dig and fo out

> looking

> > for other stuff. In addition, millions of dollars are spent on cat

> scans

> > and other expensive tests without looking at the basics AND the

> patient

> > for fear of getting sued (and trust me, it is HELL).? If I

> complain, I

> > will probably lose my license for being a quack, but all of you guys

> > need to scream loadly to Washington.? Universal Healthcare will

> just be

> > lots of worthless tests and xrays for everyone and the stuff that so

> > many people need will continue to be ignored.? The system needs a

> > radical overhaul!

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Val- i continue to learn from you! Maybe you should write a book and we can all

but it1? Geri Geszler

[Guest guest]

>>Val- i continue to learn from you! Maybe you should write a book and we can

all but it1? Geri Geszler<<

Alas I have no patience( or concentration) to write a book. And I would

certainly be called on the rug about it if I did cause I am sometimes too

outspoken... I do much better writing on these forums and helping another author

to get a great book out..

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[Guest guest]

Val....I know you must get great satisfaction from helping all of

us. But you have to admit, getting praise for all you know from an

MD is pretty MAJOR satisfaction, no? I hope you're smiling like one

of your cheshire's right now!

And Dr. Geri: that was very noble of you to comment and praise.

There aren't many like you and I for one, am happy to see you here.

There are a LOT of post meno's here, and we desperately need your

expertise! LOL

Naffy

>

> >>Val- i continue to learn from you! Maybe you should write a book

and we can all but it1? Geri Geszler<<

>

> Alas I have no patience( or concentration) to write a book. And I

would certainly be called on the rug about it if I did cause I am

sometimes too outspoken... I do much better writing on these forums

and helping another author to get a great book out..

>

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>

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>