Guest guest Posted June 12, 2007 Report Share Posted June 12, 2007 , Don't know what to say about the adversion, but can tell you our story on the orchipexy.. had bi-lat undecended testes. They did the op when he was three.. After three trials of HCG to try to bring them down. When they went in they found both to be atrophied. They were able to bring one down and they had to remove the other do to a shortened blood supply and spermatic cord. He does not produce any testosterone and therefor is on shots monthly, and will be on them for the rest of his life, along with Growth Hormone. He's been on GHT since he was 10, he's now 15 and a half, started the testosterone about a year ago. He has known his entire life that he will not be able to biologically father children. He says he plans on finding a nice girl and adopt at least 4 LOL.. The shots are no biggy around here, he gives himself the GH nightly, I do the testosterone as it's IM. I can't advise you what to do, that's up to you and yours but if it has to be done I can tell you that it is just like everything else in CHARGE, you get used to it and it becomes routine. Casey ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/norton/index.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2007 Report Share Posted June 12, 2007 Makenna has aversions down there also. She hates for me to wash that area. We are working on it, sometimes I let her clean it in the bath tub and I do a really good cleaning once per week. she does exactly the same thing, legs clamped shut and yells ow, ow, ow. It makes me feel horrible but with a little girl you need to make sure things are clean. I have tried a number of things, however, unsuccessful. I am not sure where the aversion comes from, she hasn't had too many experiences with catheters or procedures in that area. , mom to Makenna 6 > > Evan had visits with urology, nephrology, and endocrinology today--so the questions I'm about to ask have a common theme... > > The first has to do with an aversion Evan has developed. It seems like lots of CHARGE kids have oral aversions, and we've worked really hard to minimize these for Evan. Unfortunately, it appears that he has developed aversion issues with the other end. We have been noticing for the past several months that Evan is VERY sensitive in the diaper area. When we change him, he clamps his thighs together making it very difficult to clean him with wipes and even wedge the new diaper up around him. It's to the point that we usually don't use wipes for wet diapers, only BM ones. It's next to impossible to clean him in the bath too. Evan pouring water over his diaper area makes him squirm around and put his legs together. We mentioned this to Evan's urologist today, and he thought it was due to an aversion he's developed from multiple exams, catheter urine samples, etc. This makes sense, because he doesn't ever seem like he is uncomfortable or in pain when his diaper is on. > Unfortunately, aside from giving us a diagnosis, the urologist was not helpful in suggestions for how to over-come this aversion. Has anyone else delt with this? Any tips on how to help Evan get over it? > > The second question I have is about a second orchipexy. Evan was born with bilateral undescended testes. He had an orchipexy done September 2006 at 14 months old. At this time, it was discovered that he had only one testis (the right one) and it was abnormal. The urologist brough it down as far as he could (without breaking blood vessels). At today's exam, the urologist recommended a second procedure to bring the testis down further, so it can be palpated more easily. Here is where the dilemma comes in: if we leave the testis alone, where it is, there is an increased risk of testicular cancer starting in puberty; if we opt to have it moved down further, there is a chance that the blood supply could be disturbed and the testis would become non-functional and have to be removed. Unfortunately, the urologist can't tell us right now if the testis would ever produce sperm or testosterone. Evan's endocrinologist is considering testing the testis' (no pun intended) > ability to produce testosterone with a short course of Leutenizing Hormone injections (this is the hormone produced by the pituitary gland that tells the testes to make testosterone). If it can't produce testosterone, the urologist recommended just removing it entirely. Anyone have any experience with this? > > If the testis doesn't make testosterone, the decision is pretty easy to take it out. But if it does, that's where the dilemma is. I would hate to disturb it surgically and then have Evan lose his ability to make his own testosterone. But, if we leave it alone, he will have to have frequent self-exams (or by us, if he isn't able to). Plus, being closer to the body it will be warmer, and that would pretty much eliminate sperm production for him. Although, if he has a 50% chance of passing CHARGE to his children, he might not want to have kids anyway... Oh, and a final factor to make the decision that much " easier " --if we are going to do the surgery, it needs to be done before he turns 3 (after this, he will start growing and it makes the surgery too difficult to do). > > Any input on either of these issues would be greatly appreciated. > > (mom to Evan, 23 months) > > > --------------------------------- > Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2007 Report Share Posted June 12, 2007 Makenna has aversions down there also. She hates for me to wash that area. We are working on it, sometimes I let her clean it in the bath tub and I do a really good cleaning once per week. she does exactly the same thing, legs clamped shut and yells ow, ow, ow. It makes me feel horrible but with a little girl you need to make sure things are clean. I have tried a number of things, however, unsuccessful. I am not sure where the aversion comes from, she hasn't had too many experiences with catheters or procedures in that area. , mom to Makenna 6 > > Evan had visits with urology, nephrology, and endocrinology today--so the questions I'm about to ask have a common theme... > > The first has to do with an aversion Evan has developed. It seems like lots of CHARGE kids have oral aversions, and we've worked really hard to minimize these for Evan. Unfortunately, it appears that he has developed aversion issues with the other end. We have been noticing for the past several months that Evan is VERY sensitive in the diaper area. When we change him, he clamps his thighs together making it very difficult to clean him with wipes and even wedge the new diaper up around him. It's to the point that we usually don't use wipes for wet diapers, only BM ones. It's next to impossible to clean him in the bath too. Evan pouring water over his diaper area makes him squirm around and put his legs together. We mentioned this to Evan's urologist today, and he thought it was due to an aversion he's developed from multiple exams, catheter urine samples, etc. This makes sense, because he doesn't ever seem like he is uncomfortable or in pain when his diaper is on. > Unfortunately, aside from giving us a diagnosis, the urologist was not helpful in suggestions for how to over-come this aversion. Has anyone else delt with this? Any tips on how to help Evan get over it? > > The second question I have is about a second orchipexy. Evan was born with bilateral undescended testes. He had an orchipexy done September 2006 at 14 months old. At this time, it was discovered that he had only one testis (the right one) and it was abnormal. The urologist brough it down as far as he could (without breaking blood vessels). At today's exam, the urologist recommended a second procedure to bring the testis down further, so it can be palpated more easily. Here is where the dilemma comes in: if we leave the testis alone, where it is, there is an increased risk of testicular cancer starting in puberty; if we opt to have it moved down further, there is a chance that the blood supply could be disturbed and the testis would become non-functional and have to be removed. Unfortunately, the urologist can't tell us right now if the testis would ever produce sperm or testosterone. Evan's endocrinologist is considering testing the testis' (no pun intended) > ability to produce testosterone with a short course of Leutenizing Hormone injections (this is the hormone produced by the pituitary gland that tells the testes to make testosterone). If it can't produce testosterone, the urologist recommended just removing it entirely. Anyone have any experience with this? > > If the testis doesn't make testosterone, the decision is pretty easy to take it out. But if it does, that's where the dilemma is. I would hate to disturb it surgically and then have Evan lose his ability to make his own testosterone. But, if we leave it alone, he will have to have frequent self-exams (or by us, if he isn't able to). Plus, being closer to the body it will be warmer, and that would pretty much eliminate sperm production for him. Although, if he has a 50% chance of passing CHARGE to his children, he might not want to have kids anyway... Oh, and a final factor to make the decision that much " easier " --if we are going to do the surgery, it needs to be done before he turns 3 (after this, he will start growing and it makes the surgery too difficult to do). > > Any input on either of these issues would be greatly appreciated. > > (mom to Evan, 23 months) > > > --------------------------------- > Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2007 Report Share Posted June 12, 2007 Makenna has aversions down there also. She hates for me to wash that area. We are working on it, sometimes I let her clean it in the bath tub and I do a really good cleaning once per week. she does exactly the same thing, legs clamped shut and yells ow, ow, ow. It makes me feel horrible but with a little girl you need to make sure things are clean. I have tried a number of things, however, unsuccessful. I am not sure where the aversion comes from, she hasn't had too many experiences with catheters or procedures in that area. , mom to Makenna 6 > > Evan had visits with urology, nephrology, and endocrinology today--so the questions I'm about to ask have a common theme... > > The first has to do with an aversion Evan has developed. It seems like lots of CHARGE kids have oral aversions, and we've worked really hard to minimize these for Evan. Unfortunately, it appears that he has developed aversion issues with the other end. We have been noticing for the past several months that Evan is VERY sensitive in the diaper area. When we change him, he clamps his thighs together making it very difficult to clean him with wipes and even wedge the new diaper up around him. It's to the point that we usually don't use wipes for wet diapers, only BM ones. It's next to impossible to clean him in the bath too. Evan pouring water over his diaper area makes him squirm around and put his legs together. We mentioned this to Evan's urologist today, and he thought it was due to an aversion he's developed from multiple exams, catheter urine samples, etc. This makes sense, because he doesn't ever seem like he is uncomfortable or in pain when his diaper is on. > Unfortunately, aside from giving us a diagnosis, the urologist was not helpful in suggestions for how to over-come this aversion. Has anyone else delt with this? Any tips on how to help Evan get over it? > > The second question I have is about a second orchipexy. Evan was born with bilateral undescended testes. He had an orchipexy done September 2006 at 14 months old. At this time, it was discovered that he had only one testis (the right one) and it was abnormal. The urologist brough it down as far as he could (without breaking blood vessels). At today's exam, the urologist recommended a second procedure to bring the testis down further, so it can be palpated more easily. Here is where the dilemma comes in: if we leave the testis alone, where it is, there is an increased risk of testicular cancer starting in puberty; if we opt to have it moved down further, there is a chance that the blood supply could be disturbed and the testis would become non-functional and have to be removed. Unfortunately, the urologist can't tell us right now if the testis would ever produce sperm or testosterone. Evan's endocrinologist is considering testing the testis' (no pun intended) > ability to produce testosterone with a short course of Leutenizing Hormone injections (this is the hormone produced by the pituitary gland that tells the testes to make testosterone). If it can't produce testosterone, the urologist recommended just removing it entirely. Anyone have any experience with this? > > If the testis doesn't make testosterone, the decision is pretty easy to take it out. But if it does, that's where the dilemma is. I would hate to disturb it surgically and then have Evan lose his ability to make his own testosterone. But, if we leave it alone, he will have to have frequent self-exams (or by us, if he isn't able to). Plus, being closer to the body it will be warmer, and that would pretty much eliminate sperm production for him. Although, if he has a 50% chance of passing CHARGE to his children, he might not want to have kids anyway... Oh, and a final factor to make the decision that much " easier " --if we are going to do the surgery, it needs to be done before he turns 3 (after this, he will start growing and it makes the surgery too difficult to do). > > Any input on either of these issues would be greatly appreciated. > > (mom to Evan, 23 months) > > > --------------------------------- > Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 , If you find any answers about the aversion thing let me know. MacKenzie has been the same way for about 6 years, although it's only in the vaginal area, not rectum. She,too had repeated catheterizations, from repeated UTI's. The only thing that has improved is that she is somewhat able to clean herself now and has recently become toilet trained during the day, so there's not as much mess. Good luck. Jeanie Colp mom to MacKenzie 9, Tyler 15 & Zachary13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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