Re: Need help from the experts, child with adrenal fatigue

[Guest guest]

I would opt to get all the testing oyu possibly can including the ACTH

serum and Stim tests. You DO need to knwo if this is pituitary or

adrenal. Especilly in a child. As pituitary funtion is unlikely to go

away EVER adn adrenal problaems there is hope fo rhealing. She will ned

to be off the glandulars for at least 2 weks prior to testing though. I

would loik fo rintegrative or homeoipathic type doctors. DO's might be

good too but question heavily before making an appointment.

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[Guest guest]

Thank you. We got the Integrative Ped..expensive, and not sure if it's

going to help. I will know when she gets back to about what she thinks

should be done. uggh.

Oh getting her off the cortex ought to be fun.

>

> I would opt to get all the testing oyu possibly can including the ACTH

> serum and Stim tests. You DO need to knwo if this is pituitary or

> adrenal. Especilly in a child. As pituitary funtion is unlikely to go

> away EVER adn adrenal problaems there is hope fo rhealing. She will ned

> to be off the glandulars for at least 2 weks prior to testing though. I

> would loik fo rintegrative or homeoipathic type doctors. DO's might be

> good too but question heavily before making an appointment.

>

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[Guest guest]

My 12 year old son is in the same situation - I posted his labs on the natural

thyroid

hormones group about a month ago.

I am treating him without the support of a doctor and seeing some good results;

there are

others doing this on this group, the iodine group and the natural thyroid

hormones group.

We didn't do the ACTH stim test because we have a long line of thyroid issues in

my family

accompanied with adrenal fatigue, and we all have positive antibodies. I did

have him take

the 24 hour adrenal saliva test and he has Stage 4 adrenal fatigue.

I would suggest having a full antibody panel done first, looking for TRab,

blocking,

stimulating and binding as well as TSI to find out whether the hypo issue is

caused by

antibodies or not, plus antibody tests for s. (ACA or 21-OH antibodies)

If you rule out autoimmune causes, then you could explore pituitary causes?

Cathy

>

> I have a 12 yr old whoe saliva test was bad. It indicates stage 7

> fatigue. Depressed morning, noon and evening cortisol. Borderline low

> dhea (maladapted stage 1).

>

> Anyway, as you can imagine..she's not a happy or well child. She

> presents with symptoms as well as symptoms of Hypothyroid. (TSH is 3.04)

> I am running the gammet of doctors right now..and need to know exactly

> what testing we should be asking these people for. They seem to

> poo-poo the saliva panel..saying that they did not think this was

> entirely the problem. (huh? seems obvious to me). I am hesitant to use

> HC on a child.

> She has been on adrenal cortex for over a year, which helps control

> the anxiety and a few other symptoms.

>

> I hear about ACTH stim tests? Is that a bad idea? Serum cortisol? Do

> we need to know if this is pituitary problem or gland problem? I am

> buried in papers and books over here, and have tons of info on both

> hypoadrenal and hypothyroid. And everything points to her problems

> being related to this. I emailed the chief of ped endo at the big city

> hospital near here. but not expecting to find that he will have much info.

>

> She even shakes all the time now, her hand writing has gotten bad, I

> could make pages of the symptoms..and she needs help. Others??

>

[Guest guest]

Her saliva thyroid antibodies were negative..does this mean we would

not need the blood antibodies...

I think I would still want adrenal antibodies run since her stage is

pretty bad for being 12.

Both my parents are Hashi's. I don't know about myself because my doc

will only run TSH on me..but I am meeting with a new doc soon. I know

from symptoms that I am hypoadrenal and hypothyroid..just not sure if

autoimmune or not.

> >

> > I have a 12 yr old whoe saliva test was bad. It indicates stage 7

> > fatigue. Depressed morning, noon and evening cortisol. Borderline low

> > dhea (maladapted stage 1).

> >

> > Anyway, as you can imagine..she's not a happy or well child. She

> > presents with symptoms as well as symptoms of Hypothyroid. (TSH is

3.04)

> > I am running the gammet of doctors right now..and need to know exactly

> > what testing we should be asking these people for. They seem to

> > poo-poo the saliva panel..saying that they did not think this was

> > entirely the problem. (huh? seems obvious to me). I am hesitant to use

> > HC on a child.

> > She has been on adrenal cortex for over a year, which helps control

> > the anxiety and a few other symptoms.

> >

> > I hear about ACTH stim tests? Is that a bad idea? Serum cortisol? Do

> > we need to know if this is pituitary problem or gland problem? I am

> > buried in papers and books over here, and have tons of info on both

> > hypoadrenal and hypothyroid. And everything points to her problems

> > being related to this. I emailed the chief of ped endo at the big city

> > hospital near here. but not expecting to find that he will have

much info.

> >

> > She even shakes all the time now, her hand writing has gotten bad, I

> > could make pages of the symptoms..and she needs help. Others??

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Adrenal antivbosies are rare, btu yes thyroid antibodies are more

accurate in blood testing.

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