Guest guest Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 > > Looks liek you are good to go on the Armour again! I would drop 25mcg T3 > and add in 1 grain Armour plit the dosing liek 30mg Armrou , 12.5mg T3, > 30mg Armoru 12.5mcg T3 so you are still gettign T3 through out the day. > Then in bout 2 weeks add another grain and drop 12.5mcg more and then in > another couple weeks you should be able to go to 3 grains and no T3 or > mayb e2.5 grains as you look so good on this low a dose of T3. > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ > Hi Val back again. Tomorrow is the end of 2 weeks to take away 12.5 T3 and add 1 grain Armour. I have been taking it this way: 8am....30mg Armour Noon....12.5 T3 4PM....30 mg Armour Bed....12.5 T3 I had not been sleeping well at all and hurting with headache and neckache during the night and when wake up. Last night I took my 8pm 2.5 HC and added my bedtime dose 2.5 with it and the T3. I rested better so I was wondering if I should use that schedule. You had me on HC: 7.5-2.5-7.5-2.5-5-2.5-2.5-2.5 Also I have not had any BP meds since Feb 20...had bad headache for 2 days, then subsided. I have noticed that my systolic is going down in the morning but the diastolic is going up. Then by afternoon they are both down considerable to what they use to be. What could be causing this do you know? My diastolic use to be low, could it be the HC??? Also my BP still goes down when I go from sitting to standing in the morning. Any suggestions VAl??? My headaches are almost nil in the afternoon but really come back about bedtime and during the nite. This morning I really hurt when woke up to take meds.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Headaches are funny things, they can be from too many things to sort it out on JSUST that. I get horrid hypo headaches. I htink I would try adding Armoru another 15mg wihtotut lowering the T3. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 > > Headaches are funny things, they can be from too many things to sort it > out on JSUST that. I get horrid hypo headaches. I htink I would try > adding Armoru another 15mg wihtotut lowering the T3. > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ > Okay Val I will do that. I am also taking the following supplements once a day and sometimes twice a day: Omega 3, Garlic, Sea Salt, B50, and magnesium 400 mg at bedtime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 > > > > Headaches are funny things, they can be from too many things to sort > it > > out on JSUST that. I get horrid hypo headaches. I htink I would try > > adding Armoru another 15mg wihtotut lowering the T3. > > > > -- > > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ > > > Okay Val I will do that. I am also taking the following supplements > once a day and sometimes twice a day: > Omega 3, Garlic, Sea Salt, B50, and magnesium 400 mg at bedtime. > Val I forgot to ask you how long to take the 15mg Armour and what to look for??? I am adding it to my morning dose of Armour which will make it 45mg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Well ultimately you are looking for a normal body temp of average 98.6 for the day. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 > > Well ultimately you are looking for a normal body temp of average 98.6 > for the day. > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ > Okay and I am not far from that now, but my temps have been higher you said than normal for being so hypo. You said to raise only 15 mg of Armour, why that low amount and when can I up it again. You said do not take away T3 yet? When can I start taking it away. I do not get bloodtests done until April 9....I do not hurt as much today since you had me start the extra armour yesterday....didn't wake up hurting as bad. However I combined my 8pm and bedtime doses and take them at 8pm, HC & T3....I rested better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 > > > > Well ultimately you are looking for a normal body temp of average > 98.6 > > for the day. > > > > -- > > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ > > > Okay and I am not far from that now, but my temps have been higher > you said than normal for being so hypo. You said to raise only 15 mg > of Armour, why that low amount and when can I up it again. You said > do not take away T3 yet? When can I start taking it away. I do not > get bloodtests done until April 9....I do not hurt as much today > since you had me start the extra armour yesterday....didn't wake up > hurting as bad. However I combined my 8pm and bedtime doses and take > them at 8pm, HC & T3....I rested better > I started Armour 60mg twice daily and T3 12.5 twice daily as you suggested on Feb. 29. I am right now having terrible head/eye ache with neck pain also, it started some Sat evening and then really started yesterday afternoon and has not stopped. Even took some pain meds that I had left over from having teeth pulled, it did not work. Can I start taking away the T3 again now and add more Armour??? I haven't kept real good temps since the 11th when I had the teeth pulled, but most have two numbers to average. The temps I took at about same time each day are real close to each other, so really feel the adrenals may be fine. Since having teeth pulled the 11th I have done quite good. I was tired alot for 2 days, but by Friday did pretty good. Then the headaches started Sat evening.....could this be that I am taking too much HC now?? I am on 7.5--2.5--7.5--2.5--5--2.5--5 of HC.....I have one more tooth pulled this thursday and it did have infection in it the dentist said. I'm on amoxicillin (finishes today) so the headaches should not be from the infection should it??? Can you give me any advice????Or should I just hang in there until this last tooth is pulled??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 OK it takes 4-6 weeks for the T4 to build up enough to start convertain to T3 so it is not woise to lower T3 yet btu you can increase Armoru by 15mg a week. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 > > OK it takes 4-6 weeks for the T4 to build up enough to start convertain > to T3 so it is not woise to lower T3 yet btu you can increase Armoru by > 15mg a week. > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ > Okay I will do that, I will add 15mg Armour. I started adding 60mg Armour on Feb 14, then went up to 120mg on Feb 29 so beings it is Mar 17th, I would assume that the T4 is making T3 some by now shouldn't it? When should I start taking away T3?? I have my lab test on Apr 9, so am hoping my Armour is working good by then. I hope no rT3 comes back, shouldn't I would think. My cortisol should not cause it a problem and I am not on any BP meds to mess it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 I would ponly lower T3 if you start feeling hyper as you increase Armoru. There is no sense going MORE hypo. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 > > I would ponly lower T3 if you start feeling hyper as you increase > Armoru. There is no sense going MORE hypo. > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ > Thanks Val, that is what I will do. sure am happy to have you here to talk to on this and other problems, you are an angel from heaven as far as I am concerned. God bless you lady!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 > > OK it takes 4-6 weeks for the T4 to build up enough to start convertain > to T3 so it is not woise to lower T3 yet btu you can increase Armoru by > 15mg a week. > > This is what I always do when trying to raise but everytime I get to 2 grains plux 1/4 grain within 6 days I get the first hyper symptoms of very raised heartbeats and accompanying panic so 2 grains obviously is my maximum. Pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 It could just be that your cortisol is too low to support going any higher. I could not raise from 1.5 grain to 1.75 until I added natural adrenal support. Then from 1.75 to 2 I had to add low dose HC. I have just raised to 2.25, and I do everything SLOWLY, like 1/8 grain at a time, sometimes held for more than a week. You may only be able to tolerate 2 grains, but do you still have hypo symptoms? If you want to get rid of them, you'll have to raise higher, and may have to take more HC. Get some blood or saliva labs to see where you are. Just my 2 cents, Barb > > This is what I always do when trying to raise but everytime I get to 2 > grains plux 1/4 grain within 6 days I get the first hyper symptoms of > very raised heartbeats and accompanying panic so 2 grains obviously is > my maximum. > > Pam > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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