Re: HypoAdrenal + Hypothyroid = CFS

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If you're worried about calcium problems there's a couple fantastic articles

about that

here:

http://www.vitalitywellness.com/education/pdfs/Vit%20K.pdf

http://www.westonaprice.org/basicnutrition/vitamin-k2.html

The first article is more concise, though she's talking about how calcium

relates to autism

it's a great primer on Vitamin K and calcium. The second article is very long

but I think

worth it.

>

> Hello,

>

> After finding StopTheThyroidMadness.com I'm getting in touch with some

> great groups for support.

>

> I've been suffering for 5 years with CFS and keep going in circles. I

> definitely have weak adrenals (tried Isocort yesterday and it helped

> quite a bit). Sea Salt helps, I'm also taking MACA and Adrenal Cortex.

> I seem to keep wiping them out with either Mercury Chelators or more

> recently I took a extremely cheap (Big Lots) Cal/Mag/Zn 333/133/5mg

> with 20+ fillers and it somehow almost completely eliminated all my

> symptoms of 5 years for 2 days. I'm trying to figure out how/why?

> I already supplement zinc and Magnesium so I'm assuming it's the

> Calcium or one of the 20+ fillers. Strange huh? Story of my life.

>

> My hair test was alarming. The High calcium is supposed to indicate

> calcium wasting. http://www.livingnetwork.co.za/files/hairtest_148.pdf

>

> May also indicate Parathyroid issues (calcium). The High cal/mag and

> low Na/K are supposed to me a typical mercury pattern. Does anyone

> entertain mercury here?

>

> I've had CFS twice and both times with a year or two of lots of

> amalgam related dental work.

>

[Guest guest]

If you're worried about calcium problems there's a couple fantastic articles

about that

here:

http://www.vitalitywellness.com/education/pdfs/Vit%20K.pdf

http://www.westonaprice.org/basicnutrition/vitamin-k2.html

The first article is more concise, though she's talking about how calcium

relates to autism

it's a great primer on Vitamin K and calcium. The second article is very long

but I think

worth it.

>

> Hello,

>

> After finding StopTheThyroidMadness.com I'm getting in touch with some

> great groups for support.

>

> I've been suffering for 5 years with CFS and keep going in circles. I

> definitely have weak adrenals (tried Isocort yesterday and it helped

> quite a bit). Sea Salt helps, I'm also taking MACA and Adrenal Cortex.

> I seem to keep wiping them out with either Mercury Chelators or more

> recently I took a extremely cheap (Big Lots) Cal/Mag/Zn 333/133/5mg

> with 20+ fillers and it somehow almost completely eliminated all my

> symptoms of 5 years for 2 days. I'm trying to figure out how/why?

> I already supplement zinc and Magnesium so I'm assuming it's the

> Calcium or one of the 20+ fillers. Strange huh? Story of my life.

>

> My hair test was alarming. The High calcium is supposed to indicate

> calcium wasting. http://www.livingnetwork.co.za/files/hairtest_148.pdf

>

> May also indicate Parathyroid issues (calcium). The High cal/mag and

> low Na/K are supposed to me a typical mercury pattern. Does anyone

> entertain mercury here?

>

> I've had CFS twice and both times with a year or two of lots of

> amalgam related dental work.

>

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it somehow almost completely eliminated all my

> > symptoms of 5 years for 2 days. I'm trying to figure out how/why?

> > I already supplement zinc and Magnesium so I'm assuming it's the

Just out of curiousity, what were your symptoms?

I know low magnesium can cause all sorts of fatigue problems... and

heart rate issues, shakiness, weak muscles... etc

Maybe you just were really deficient in Mag.

I am. My doc said I need to take a ton to feel relief.

It's easy to check for Calcium, was your Calicium blood level ever low?

Hey...if it works, keep taking it.

Im waiting for my miracle pill.

Are you on Armour?

Im getting ready to start it , oppsed to synthroid for 5 years now.

Very neervous/

[Guest guest]

it somehow almost completely eliminated all my

> > symptoms of 5 years for 2 days. I'm trying to figure out how/why?

> > I already supplement zinc and Magnesium so I'm assuming it's the

Just out of curiousity, what were your symptoms?

I know low magnesium can cause all sorts of fatigue problems... and

heart rate issues, shakiness, weak muscles... etc

Maybe you just were really deficient in Mag.

I am. My doc said I need to take a ton to feel relief.

It's easy to check for Calcium, was your Calicium blood level ever low?

Hey...if it works, keep taking it.

Im waiting for my miracle pill.

Are you on Armour?

Im getting ready to start it , oppsed to synthroid for 5 years now.

Very neervous/

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> Just out of curiousity, what were your symptoms?

> I know low magnesium can cause all sorts of fatigue problems... and

> heart rate issues, shakiness, weak muscles... etc

> Maybe you just were really deficient in Mag.

> I am. My doc said I need to take a ton to feel relief.

I actually found the Calcium thing after I took too much calcium (for

the day I assume). I woke at 2-3 am and was having a hard timr

returning to sleep so I took about 50mg Magnesium-Glycinate. It didn't

help much after about 5 min so I took 100mg. After that I felt worse

and wired. There was no way I was going to get to sleep. I remembered

reading that Calcium could help balance Magnesium so I took half a

Cal/Mag tablet and felt very calm within 5 minutes. I slept for the

next three hours and woke feeling pretty good despite missing 2 hours

of sleep.

I took small doses the next few days trying to recreate the success. I

found that it really helped me if I took it right before bed with some

additional Magnesium. That weekend I took the entire Cal/Mag with

additional 200mg Magnesium before bed Fri and Sat and had the best

weekend in years. I took a lesser dose on Sunday and it didn't help

and my adrenals were toast.

Here's whats in the Cal/Mag:

Calcium: 333 mg (Calcium Carbonate)

Magnesium: 133 mg (Mag Oxide)

Zinc: 5 mg (Zinc Sulfate)

And a bunch of filler junk (Cellulose, Maltodextrin,

Croscarmellose Sodium, Talc, Corn Starch, Sodium Lauryl Sulfate,

Mineral Oil, Crospovidone, Stearic Acid, Citric Acid, Soy

Polysaccaride, Hypromellose, Titanium Dioxide, Sodium Stach Glycoate,

Dextrose, Magnesium Stearate, Silicon Dioxide, Polyethelyene Glycol,

Sodium Carboxymethylcellulose, Calcium Stearate, Sodium Citrate,

Polysorbate 80, Carnuba Wax, Dextrin - OMG!!!).

I'm sure Sodium Lauryl Sulfate should only be in shampoo and the like.

I've ordered Calcium Carbonate and Magnesium Oxide power to see if my

magic ingredient is one of those two (fingers crossed). If not

hopefully the zinc sulfate. If it ends up being one of the fillers ????

> symptoms

My symptoms are like wired and fatigued. Symptoms of anxiety, general

crummyness along with plenty of mental symptoms, brain fog, can't

handle stress. Most of the typical adrenal symptoms like cold

intolerance, etc.

> It's easy to check for Calcium, was your Calicium blood level ever low?

I did have blood calcium (kidney profile) about 2 years ago and it was

fine.

> Are you on Armour?

> Im getting ready to start it , oppsed to synthroid for 5 years now.

> Very neervous/

I'm not on any Thyroid meds. My " normal doc " thyroid stuff came back

normal and never got persued after that (until now). Good luck with

the Armour. From what I keep hearing its good stuff.