Guest guest Posted May 2, 2007 Report Share Posted May 2, 2007 ---that is brill eh and gives a lot of people hope brilllllllll stuff > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2007 Report Share Posted May 2, 2007 I have seen that before and it is amazing!!! Thanks for sharing it. Crystal and Eva > > If this really means anything, I don't know what it is. It made me think of > colobomas, > and how the brain probably fills in the missing info to make a complete > picture. > We KNOW what happens when hearing is involved, and the brain fills in, don't > we, Yuka!!! Haha. > > > In the next 60 seconds you will be amazed at the > power of your own mind. Here is what I want you to do. > Listed below are the results of a recent study of the mind > by a major university. As you read it, you will immediately > realize that something is terribly wrong....keep reading! > My bet is that you will be able to read and understand > the information below, and after reading it you will be amazed > at the power of your own mind. Forward this message to your > friends....they will also be amazed! > >>>The Phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan miund. > Acordnig to rscheerchers at Cmabrigde Uinervisy , it denos't > mtater in waht oredr the ltetres in a wrod are, the olny ipnoatmt > tihng is taht the frist and lsat leteer be in the rghit pclae. > The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a > porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by > istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. > Amzanig huh? <<< > --- > in Ma. > > > > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 Thank you Chantelle for explaining how it is. It just goes to show how truly exceptional you all are to manage so well with when that is the reality of it. ;-) in Ma. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 I would strongly encourage EVERYONE to rephrase the " filling in the missing parts " that is very confusing and just wrong. For some one who dosnt understand columbomas... they would think that means the brain fills in the rest of the picture so the person sees the whole stuff. That is exactly what happend when my mom was told that about columbomas and for YEARS assumed I could see better then I really could. Please please the best way to explain columbomas is this.... take a picture and open it with paint or some program on your computer. now using the croping tool take out part of the picture, say the bottom half (for columbomas on the top part of the eye). then all the brain would see looking forward is that top half of the picture. now the picture is cropped so only the top part of the picture is the entire picture. That is what the brain sees. That is how someone with a columboma sees. Thank you. Chantelle -- I have 4 eyes, 4 ears, a guide cat and a cat that speaks mouse! - me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 Thanks for the example, Chantelle. I think it's pretty important to realize that your brain can't " fill in " what it never had to start with. I mean, a person who once had sight, loses their vision, and then regains sight can learn to make sense out of their new vision. But a person who never had sight, then is given it, often is simply confused and troubled by the images their brain can't make sense of. (I just watched a news piece on this so it's on the top of my mind.) Those of us who read, can read the jumbled message because we have the starting knowledge to work from. If we can't read standard English, we wouldn't be able to fill-in and sort out the jumbled English. How can your brain fill in the missing parts of a visual image when it never saw the whole picture to start with? That would require some wild imagination and astounding prediction abilities. Consider a puzzle with just one piece missing. If you tried to draw in the missing piece, how likely is it that you'd get every detail right? You may be able to imagine or predict the basics, but most of us would be lucky to get just the basics. It'd be hard to get through life without the details. Michele W _____ From: CHARGE [mailto:CHARGE ] On Behalf Of Chantelle McLaren Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 12:23 PM To: CHARGE Subject: Re: Re: a little experiment I would strongly encourage EVERYONE to rephrase the " filling in the missing parts " that is very confusing and just wrong. For some one who dosnt understand columbomas... they would think that means the brain fills in the rest of the picture so the person sees the whole stuff. That is exactly what happend when my mom was told that about columbomas and for YEARS assumed I could see better then I really could. Please please the best way to explain columbomas is this.... take a picture and open it with paint or some program on your computer. now using the croping tool take out part of the picture, say the bottom half (for columbomas on the top part of the eye). then all the brain would see looking forward is that top half of the picture. now the picture is cropped so only the top part of the picture is the entire picture. That is what the brain sees. That is how someone with a columboma sees. Thank you. Chantelle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 Chantelle--I know you might not see this for awhile because of your computer issues. But when you do, please comment on this. I was always taught in school that when someone has a loss of their peripheral vision that it isn't like they just see " black " in that part of the side vision. The brain does " fill-in " in a sense. It doesn't create the missing part of the picture, but it does " ignore " the missing part. The closest analogy I have from personal experience is when I get migraine auras. Part of the " feeling " I get before the actual headache is a transient loss of my central or parts of my side vision. So if I look directly at someone's face, for example. I can't see their eyes or facial features. But I don't see a black spot of empty space either. My brain " fills in " so the face is a solid flesh color (or the same color as the surrounding area). Sometimes it will affect a quadrant of my side vision, and again the space isn't black--it's like my brain ignores it and I don't realize it's missing until I move an object in that area into a place I can see and it's like it comes from nowhere. I am interested to know if the coloboma is anything like this. (mom to Evan 21 months, and an optometrist on the side) Michele Westmaas momonamission@...> wrote: Thanks for the example, Chantelle. I think it's pretty important to realize that your brain can't " fill in " what it never had to start with. I mean, a person who once had sight, loses their vision, and then regains sight can learn to make sense out of their new vision. But a person who never had sight, then is given it, often is simply confused and troubled by the images their brain can't make sense of. (I just watched a news piece on this so it's on the top of my mind.) Those of us who read, can read the jumbled message because we have the starting knowledge to work from. If we can't read standard English, we wouldn't be able to fill-in and sort out the jumbled English. How can your brain fill in the missing parts of a visual image when it never saw the whole picture to start with? That would require some wild imagination and astounding prediction abilities. Consider a puzzle with just one piece missing. If you tried to draw in the missing piece, how likely is it that you'd get every detail right? You may be able to imagine or predict the basics, but most of us would be lucky to get just the basics. It'd be hard to get through life without the details. Michele W _____ From: CHARGE [mailto:CHARGE ] On Behalf Of Chantelle McLaren Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 12:23 PM To: CHARGE Subject: Re: Re: a little experiment I would strongly encourage EVERYONE to rephrase the " filling in the missing parts " that is very confusing and just wrong. For some one who dosnt understand columbomas... they would think that means the brain fills in the rest of the picture so the person sees the whole stuff. That is exactly what happend when my mom was told that about columbomas and for YEARS assumed I could see better then I really could. Please please the best way to explain columbomas is this.... take a picture and open it with paint or some program on your computer. now using the croping tool take out part of the picture, say the bottom half (for columbomas on the top part of the eye). then all the brain would see looking forward is that top half of the picture. now the picture is cropped so only the top part of the picture is the entire picture. That is what the brain sees. That is how someone with a columboma sees. Thank you. Chantelle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 Chantelle--I know you might not see this for awhile because of your computer issues. But when you do, please comment on this. I was always taught in school that when someone has a loss of their peripheral vision that it isn't like they just see " black " in that part of the side vision. The brain does " fill-in " in a sense. It doesn't create the missing part of the picture, but it does " ignore " the missing part. The closest analogy I have from personal experience is when I get migraine auras. Part of the " feeling " I get before the actual headache is a transient loss of my central or parts of my side vision. So if I look directly at someone's face, for example. I can't see their eyes or facial features. But I don't see a black spot of empty space either. My brain " fills in " so the face is a solid flesh color (or the same color as the surrounding area). Sometimes it will affect a quadrant of my side vision, and again the space isn't black--it's like my brain ignores it and I don't realize it's missing until I move an object in that area into a place I can see and it's like it comes from nowhere. I am interested to know if the coloboma is anything like this. (mom to Evan 21 months, and an optometrist on the side) Michele Westmaas momonamission@...> wrote: Thanks for the example, Chantelle. I think it's pretty important to realize that your brain can't " fill in " what it never had to start with. I mean, a person who once had sight, loses their vision, and then regains sight can learn to make sense out of their new vision. But a person who never had sight, then is given it, often is simply confused and troubled by the images their brain can't make sense of. (I just watched a news piece on this so it's on the top of my mind.) Those of us who read, can read the jumbled message because we have the starting knowledge to work from. If we can't read standard English, we wouldn't be able to fill-in and sort out the jumbled English. How can your brain fill in the missing parts of a visual image when it never saw the whole picture to start with? That would require some wild imagination and astounding prediction abilities. Consider a puzzle with just one piece missing. If you tried to draw in the missing piece, how likely is it that you'd get every detail right? You may be able to imagine or predict the basics, but most of us would be lucky to get just the basics. It'd be hard to get through life without the details. Michele W _____ From: CHARGE [mailto:CHARGE ] On Behalf Of Chantelle McLaren Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 12:23 PM To: CHARGE Subject: Re: Re: a little experiment I would strongly encourage EVERYONE to rephrase the " filling in the missing parts " that is very confusing and just wrong. For some one who dosnt understand columbomas... they would think that means the brain fills in the rest of the picture so the person sees the whole stuff. That is exactly what happend when my mom was told that about columbomas and for YEARS assumed I could see better then I really could. Please please the best way to explain columbomas is this.... take a picture and open it with paint or some program on your computer. now using the croping tool take out part of the picture, say the bottom half (for columbomas on the top part of the eye). then all the brain would see looking forward is that top half of the picture. now the picture is cropped so only the top part of the picture is the entire picture. That is what the brain sees. That is how someone with a columboma sees. Thank you. Chantelle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 I dont mean there is a blank spot or a black spot. its just that there is nothing there seen at that time. as the eye moves sure it can fill in information to the brain but you see a smaller amount of the picture at one given time. Here is what i mean visualy... took a picture of a cat and hopefully both pictures should be the same size. http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f8/Peppermint_Chey/cat-picture-full.jpg Thats a picture of say the normal vision, that is all you will see... Now with columbomas you see less of the world at any given moment... http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f8/Peppermint_Chey/worldwithacolumboma.jpg Chantelle -- I have 4 eyes, 4 ears, a guide cat and a cat that speaks mouse! - me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 I dont mean there is a blank spot or a black spot. its just that there is nothing there seen at that time. as the eye moves sure it can fill in information to the brain but you see a smaller amount of the picture at one given time. Here is what i mean visualy... took a picture of a cat and hopefully both pictures should be the same size. http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f8/Peppermint_Chey/cat-picture-full.jpg Thats a picture of say the normal vision, that is all you will see... Now with columbomas you see less of the world at any given moment... http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f8/Peppermint_Chey/worldwithacolumboma.jpg Chantelle -- I have 4 eyes, 4 ears, a guide cat and a cat that speaks mouse! - me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 I dont mean there is a blank spot or a black spot. its just that there is nothing there seen at that time. as the eye moves sure it can fill in information to the brain but you see a smaller amount of the picture at one given time. Here is what i mean visualy... took a picture of a cat and hopefully both pictures should be the same size. http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f8/Peppermint_Chey/cat-picture-full.jpg Thats a picture of say the normal vision, that is all you will see... Now with columbomas you see less of the world at any given moment... http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f8/Peppermint_Chey/worldwithacolumboma.jpg Chantelle -- I have 4 eyes, 4 ears, a guide cat and a cat that speaks mouse! - me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 Chantelle: #1: Love your cat!! #2: Thanks for showing so well what you experience with the coloboma. Friends in CHARGE, Marilyn Ogan Mom of (14, CHARGE+, JRA) Mom of Ken (17, Aspergers) Wife of Rick oganm@... _____ From: CHARGE [mailto:CHARGE ] On Behalf Of Chantelle McLaren Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 5:59 PM To: CHARGE Subject: Re: Re: a little experiment I dont mean there is a blank spot or a black spot. its just that there is nothing there seen at that time. as the eye moves sure it can fill in information to the brain but you see a smaller amount of the picture at one given time. Here is what i mean visualy... took a picture of a cat and hopefully both pictures should be the same size. http://i44.photobuc http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f8/Peppermint_Chey/cat-picture-full.jpg> ket.com/albums/f8/Peppermint_Chey/cat-picture-full.jpg Thats a picture of say the normal vision, that is all you will see... Now with columbomas you see less of the world at any given moment... http://i44.photobuc http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f8/Peppermint_Chey/worldwithacolumboma.jp g> ket.com/albums/f8/Peppermint_Chey/worldwithacolumboma.jpg Chantelle -- I have 4 eyes, 4 ears, a guide cat and a cat that speaks mouse! - me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 Chantelle: #1: Love your cat!! #2: Thanks for showing so well what you experience with the coloboma. Friends in CHARGE, Marilyn Ogan Mom of (14, CHARGE+, JRA) Mom of Ken (17, Aspergers) Wife of Rick oganm@... _____ From: CHARGE [mailto:CHARGE ] On Behalf Of Chantelle McLaren Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 5:59 PM To: CHARGE Subject: Re: Re: a little experiment I dont mean there is a blank spot or a black spot. its just that there is nothing there seen at that time. as the eye moves sure it can fill in information to the brain but you see a smaller amount of the picture at one given time. Here is what i mean visualy... took a picture of a cat and hopefully both pictures should be the same size. http://i44.photobuc http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f8/Peppermint_Chey/cat-picture-full.jpg> ket.com/albums/f8/Peppermint_Chey/cat-picture-full.jpg Thats a picture of say the normal vision, that is all you will see... Now with columbomas you see less of the world at any given moment... http://i44.photobuc http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f8/Peppermint_Chey/worldwithacolumboma.jp g> ket.com/albums/f8/Peppermint_Chey/worldwithacolumboma.jpg Chantelle -- I have 4 eyes, 4 ears, a guide cat and a cat that speaks mouse! - me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 Chantelle: #1: Love your cat!! #2: Thanks for showing so well what you experience with the coloboma. Friends in CHARGE, Marilyn Ogan Mom of (14, CHARGE+, JRA) Mom of Ken (17, Aspergers) Wife of Rick oganm@... _____ From: CHARGE [mailto:CHARGE ] On Behalf Of Chantelle McLaren Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 5:59 PM To: CHARGE Subject: Re: Re: a little experiment I dont mean there is a blank spot or a black spot. its just that there is nothing there seen at that time. as the eye moves sure it can fill in information to the brain but you see a smaller amount of the picture at one given time. Here is what i mean visualy... took a picture of a cat and hopefully both pictures should be the same size. http://i44.photobuc http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f8/Peppermint_Chey/cat-picture-full.jpg> ket.com/albums/f8/Peppermint_Chey/cat-picture-full.jpg Thats a picture of say the normal vision, that is all you will see... Now with columbomas you see less of the world at any given moment... http://i44.photobuc http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f8/Peppermint_Chey/worldwithacolumboma.jp g> ket.com/albums/f8/Peppermint_Chey/worldwithacolumboma.jpg Chantelle -- I have 4 eyes, 4 ears, a guide cat and a cat that speaks mouse! - me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 chantelle i see wat you mean with the cat first pic is real sharp then second reall blury thats how i c some stuff wit my colabomas soe things r sharp soem r blury > > Chantelle: > > #1: Love your cat!! > > #2: Thanks for showing so well what you experience with the coloboma. > > Friends in CHARGE, > > Marilyn Ogan > > Mom of (14, CHARGE+, JRA) > > Mom of Ken (17, Aspergers) > > Wife of Rick > > oganm@... > > _____ > > From: CHARGE [mailto: > CHARGE ] On Behalf Of > Chantelle McLaren > Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 5:59 PM > To: CHARGE > Subject: Re: Re: a little experiment > > I dont mean there is a blank spot or a black spot. its just that there is > nothing there seen at that time. as the eye moves sure it can fill in > information to the brain but you see a smaller amount of the picture at > one > given time. > > Here is what i mean visualy... took a picture of a cat and hopefully both > pictures should be the same size. > > http://i44.photobuc > http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f8/Peppermint_Chey/cat-picture-full.jpg > > > ket.com/albums/f8/Peppermint_Chey/cat-picture-full.jpg > Thats a picture of say the normal vision, that is all you will see... > > Now with columbomas you see less of the world at any given moment... > http://i44.photobuc > < > http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f8/Peppermint_Chey/worldwithacolumboma.jp > g> ket.com/albums/f8/Peppermint_Chey/worldwithacolumboma.jpg > > Chantelle > > -- > I have 4 eyes, 4 ears, a guide cat and a cat that speaks mouse! - me > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 Glad the picture helped. That wasnt my cat though lol. I was at the college (actualy im back today cause i have to finish my homework). This is my cats.... http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w70/catfuzz/Doxie%20and%20Kizzy/DoxieandKizzy\ ..jpg -- I have 4 eyes, 4 ears, a guide cat and a cat that speaks mouse! - me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 Chantelle, I love your " babies " . Thank Goodness they get along so well!! in Ma. In a message dated 5/4/2007 5:06:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time, oganr@... writes: photobucket.photobucketphotobucket.photobucket.photobucket. http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 Awwww..I still love them! Friends in CHARGE, Marilyn Ogan _____ From: CHARGE [mailto:CHARGE ] On Behalf Of Chantelle McLaren Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 12:49 PM To: CHARGE Subject: Re: Re: a little experiment Glad the picture helped. That wasnt my cat though lol. I was at the college (actualy im back today cause i have to finish my homework). This is my cats.... http://i173. http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w70/catfuzz/Doxie%20and%20Kizzy/Doxieand Kizzy.jpg> photobucket.com/albums/w70/catfuzz/Doxie%20and%20Kizzy/DoxieandKizzy.jpg -- I have 4 eyes, 4 ears, a guide cat and a cat that speaks mouse! - me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2007 Report Share Posted May 7, 2007 Hi Chantelle, Thanks for the explanation. My son has a coloboma and the doctors also told me that his brain would fill in the gap and make the the whole picture fuzzy. thanks for the clarification! > > I dont mean there is a blank spot or a black spot. its just that there is > nothing there seen at that time. as the eye moves sure it can fill in > information to the brain but you see a smaller amount of the picture at one > given time. > > Here is what i mean visualy... took a picture of a cat and hopefully both > pictures should be the same size. > > > http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f8/Peppermint_Chey/cat-picture- full.jpg > Thats a picture of say the normal vision, that is all you will see... > > Now with columbomas you see less of the world at any given moment... > http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f8/Peppermint_Chey/worldwithacolumbo ma.jpg > > > > > Chantelle > > -- > I have 4 eyes, 4 ears, a guide cat and a cat that speaks mouse! - me > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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