Guest guest Posted June 15, 2007 Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 lis the ciggaret smoke he mentioned jumped otu of me because dad smokes ok loomk at this way ive got eustation tube probs he said it can b allergie to cigarettes in that moke my question is i know mine is to do with reflux and stuff but for other chargers with me to how do we know that dads smoking wouldnt impact hmmmmmm lis another interesting one dad he smokes sixty a day is better than use to b only impact form his smoke i get is the occasionl cough wich i say is me refluxing anyway but he used to smoke in the house all the time now he smokes otuside but im wondering if early years could of now im rambling but its very interesting one > > Jim asked me to forward this note about Eustachian tubes... > > > EUSTACHIAN TUBES > > Eustachian tubes connect the middle ear to the back of the throat and are > supposed to open with jaw movement to equalize pressure between the middle > ear and the environment and to let fluid that might be present drain from > the middle ear. In newborns they are at an angle of 11 degrees from > horizontal and they often don't open very well on their own (which causes > negative pressure to form in the middle ear, accumulation of clear fluid > in > the middle ear, and possibly infection of the fluid which can turn to > pus.). The Eustachian tube is essentially a passive device that opens and > closes with jaw movement; it has one muscle that helps, but not very much. > If there is any inflammation that cause it to swell, tonsils and adenoids > that block its motion, or deformation due familial differences (like in my > family) or craniofacial anomaly, the Eustachian tube can open very poorly > or > close completely causing the cycle of events described above. PE tubes are > bobbins or grommets placed in a hole that is cut in the eardrum to keep > the > hole open so that the middle ear will be ventilated and negative pressure > does not form. In most cases, the PE tube is designed so that the eardrum > grows behind it and pushes into the ear canal. By age 10-11 years, after > the > skull has matured, the Eustachian tubes move up to angle of 45 degrees and > normally open well on their own and middle ear problems and infections go > away. However, if the Eustachian tube is structurally abnormal or if there > are allergies (second hand cigarette smoke is a big one and many allergens > as well) and chronic infections in the throat, the person may end up > having > middle ear problems caused by Eustachian tube dysfunction into adulthood. > > Thirty years ago, someone told me of an attempt to improve Eustachian tube > function in which a very narrow soft tube was inserted into the Eustachian > tube to keep it open. The result was that the thin tube irritated the > Eustachian tube and caused it to function more poorly; ultimately the thin > tube worked its way up to the middle ear and pierced the eardrum. That > solution was abandoned quickly. I know of no other attempts to surgically > treat or re-construct this delicate and vital structure. If your child has > had chronic Eustachian problems and they go away, consider yourself > fortunate and try to identify your guardian angel. > > Jim Thelin, audiologist, father of two boys who each had 3 sets of PE > tubes > > -- > " It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in > delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. " --Carl Sagan > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2007 Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 mine r structualy abnormal but dads moking coudl imact how would i know is there any easy way to determin that fact if you could ask him that or ill fwd it to mum and we will ask my ent but its another reason maybe y my bloody dad should stop smoking and hes gonna hate it if this is the reason though he mite take more kindly to this thatn the old idiot programers chest with his smoking coz well im his kid LOL > > lis the ciggaret smoke he mentioned jumped otu of me because dad smokes ok > loomk at this way ive got eustation tube probs he said it can b allergie to > cigarettes in that moke my question is i know mine is to do with reflux and > stuff but for other chargers with me to how do we know that dads smoking > wouldnt impact hmmmmmm lis another interesting one dad he smokes sixty a day > is better than use to b only impact form his smoke i get is the occasionl > cough wich i say is me refluxing anyway but he used to smoke in the house > all the time now he smokes otuside but im wondering if early years could of > now im rambling but its very interesting one > > > > > > Jim asked me to forward this note about Eustachian tubes... > > > > > > EUSTACHIAN TUBES > > > > Eustachian tubes connect the middle ear to the back of the throat and > > are > > supposed to open with jaw movement to equalize pressure between the > > middle > > ear and the environment and to let fluid that might be present drain > > from > > the middle ear. In newborns they are at an angle of 11 degrees from > > horizontal and they often don't open very well on their own (which > > causes > > negative pressure to form in the middle ear, accumulation of clear fluid > > in > > the middle ear, and possibly infection of the fluid which can turn to > > pus.). The Eustachian tube is essentially a passive device that opens > > and > > closes with jaw movement; it has one muscle that helps, but not very > > much. > > If there is any inflammation that cause it to swell, tonsils and > > adenoids > > that block its motion, or deformation due familial differences (like in > > my > > family) or craniofacial anomaly, the Eustachian tube can open very > > poorly or > > close completely causing the cycle of events described above. PE tubes > > are > > bobbins or grommets placed in a hole that is cut in the eardrum to keep > > the > > hole open so that the middle ear will be ventilated and negative > > pressure > > does not form. In most cases, the PE tube is designed so that the > > eardrum > > grows behind it and pushes into the ear canal. By age 10-11 years, after > > the > > skull has matured, the Eustachian tubes move up to angle of 45 degrees > > and > > normally open well on their own and middle ear problems and infections > > go > > away. However, if the Eustachian tube is structurally abnormal or if > > there > > are allergies (second hand cigarette smoke is a big one and many > > allergens > > as well) and chronic infections in the throat, the person may end up > > having > > middle ear problems caused by Eustachian tube dysfunction into > > adulthood. > > > > Thirty years ago, someone told me of an attempt to improve Eustachian > > tube > > function in which a very narrow soft tube was inserted into the > > Eustachian > > tube to keep it open. The result was that the thin tube irritated the > > Eustachian tube and caused it to function more poorly; ultimately the > > thin > > tube worked its way up to the middle ear and pierced the eardrum. That > > solution was abandoned quickly. I know of no other attempts to > > surgically > > treat or re-construct this delicate and vital structure. If your child > > has > > had chronic Eustachian problems and they go away, consider yourself > > fortunate and try to identify your guardian angel. > > > > Jim Thelin, audiologist, father of two boys who each had 3 sets of PE > > tubes > > > > -- > > " It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist > > in > > delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. " --Carl Sagan > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2007 Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 Ellen, I think it'd be hard to say for sure if it was just the one thing that caused your eustachian tube problems, there's always so much going on with CHARGE! Hugs, Lis > > mine r structualy abnormal but dads moking coudl imact how would i know > is > there any easy way to determin that fact if you could ask him that or ill > fwd it to mum and we will ask my ent but its another reason maybe y my > bloody dad should stop smoking and hes gonna hate it if this is the reason > though he mite take more kindly to this thatn the old idiot programers > chest > with his smoking coz well im his kid LOL > > On 15/06/07, ellen howe ellen.howe@... > > wrote: > > > > lis the ciggaret smoke he mentioned jumped otu of me because dad smokes > ok > > loomk at this way ive got eustation tube probs he said it can b allergie > to > > cigarettes in that moke my question is i know mine is to do with reflux > and > > stuff but for other chargers with me to how do we know that dads smoking > > wouldnt impact hmmmmmm lis another interesting one dad he smokes sixty a > day > > is better than use to b only impact form his smoke i get is the > occasionl > > cough wich i say is me refluxing anyway but he used to smoke in the > house > > all the time now he smokes otuside but im wondering if early years could > of > > now im rambling but its very interesting one > > > > On 15/06/07, Weir kawfolks@... > > wrote: > > > > > > Jim asked me to forward this note about Eustachian tubes... > > > > > > > > > EUSTACHIAN TUBES > > > > > > Eustachian tubes connect the middle ear to the back of the throat and > > > are > > > supposed to open with jaw movement to equalize pressure between the > > > middle > > > ear and the environment and to let fluid that might be present drain > > > from > > > the middle ear. In newborns they are at an angle of 11 degrees from > > > horizontal and they often don't open very well on their own (which > > > causes > > > negative pressure to form in the middle ear, accumulation of clear > fluid > > > in > > > the middle ear, and possibly infection of the fluid which can turn to > > > pus.). The Eustachian tube is essentially a passive device that opens > > > and > > > closes with jaw movement; it has one muscle that helps, but not very > > > much. > > > If there is any inflammation that cause it to swell, tonsils and > > > adenoids > > > that block its motion, or deformation due familial differences (like > in > > > my > > > family) or craniofacial anomaly, the Eustachian tube can open very > > > poorly or > > > close completely causing the cycle of events described above. PE tubes > > > are > > > bobbins or grommets placed in a hole that is cut in the eardrum to > keep > > > the > > > hole open so that the middle ear will be ventilated and negative > > > pressure > > > does not form. In most cases, the PE tube is designed so that the > > > eardrum > > > grows behind it and pushes into the ear canal. By age 10-11 years, > after > > > the > > > skull has matured, the Eustachian tubes move up to angle of 45 degrees > > > and > > > normally open well on their own and middle ear problems and infections > > > go > > > away. However, if the Eustachian tube is structurally abnormal or if > > > there > > > are allergies (second hand cigarette smoke is a big one and many > > > allergens > > > as well) and chronic infections in the throat, the person may end up > > > having > > > middle ear problems caused by Eustachian tube dysfunction into > > > adulthood. > > > > > > Thirty years ago, someone told me of an attempt to improve Eustachian > > > tube > > > function in which a very narrow soft tube was inserted into the > > > Eustachian > > > tube to keep it open. The result was that the thin tube irritated the > > > Eustachian tube and caused it to function more poorly; ultimately the > > > thin > > > tube worked its way up to the middle ear and pierced the eardrum. That > > > solution was abandoned quickly. I know of no other attempts to > > > surgically > > > treat or re-construct this delicate and vital structure. If your child > > > has > > > had chronic Eustachian problems and they go away, consider yourself > > > fortunate and try to identify your guardian angel. > > > > > > Jim Thelin, audiologist, father of two boys who each had 3 sets of PE > > > tubes > > > > > > -- > > > " It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to > persist > > > in > > > delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. " --Carl Sagan > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2007 Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 yes it would b hard but itcould allwasy b a factor when u look at how many times a day my dad will smoke but then i am also round fire smoke to coz we have a fire place that doesnt do anythign now i really am confused > > Ellen, > I think it'd be hard to say for sure if it was just the one thing that > caused your eustachian tube problems, there's always so much going on with > CHARGE! > Hugs, > Lis > > On 6/15/07, ellen howe ellen.howe@... > > wrote: > > > > mine r structualy abnormal but dads moking coudl imact how would i know > > is > > there any easy way to determin that fact if you could ask him that or > ill > > fwd it to mum and we will ask my ent but its another reason maybe y my > > bloody dad should stop smoking and hes gonna hate it if this is the > reason > > though he mite take more kindly to this thatn the old idiot programers > > chest > > with his smoking coz well im his kid LOL > > > > On 15/06/07, ellen howe ellen.howe@... < > ellen.howe%40gmail.com>> > > wrote: > > > > > > lis the ciggaret smoke he mentioned jumped otu of me because dad > smokes > > ok > > > loomk at this way ive got eustation tube probs he said it can b > allergie > > to > > > cigarettes in that moke my question is i know mine is to do with > reflux > > and > > > stuff but for other chargers with me to how do we know that dads > smoking > > > wouldnt impact hmmmmmm lis another interesting one dad he smokes sixty > a > > day > > > is better than use to b only impact form his smoke i get is the > > occasionl > > > cough wich i say is me refluxing anyway but he used to smoke in the > > house > > > all the time now he smokes otuside but im wondering if early years > could > > of > > > now im rambling but its very interesting one > > > > > > On 15/06/07, Weir kawfolks@... > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Jim asked me to forward this note about Eustachian tubes... > > > > > > > > > > > > EUSTACHIAN TUBES > > > > > > > > Eustachian tubes connect the middle ear to the back of the throat > and > > > > are > > > > supposed to open with jaw movement to equalize pressure between the > > > > middle > > > > ear and the environment and to let fluid that might be present drain > > > > from > > > > the middle ear. In newborns they are at an angle of 11 degrees from > > > > horizontal and they often don't open very well on their own (which > > > > causes > > > > negative pressure to form in the middle ear, accumulation of clear > > fluid > > > > in > > > > the middle ear, and possibly infection of the fluid which can turn > to > > > > pus.). The Eustachian tube is essentially a passive device that > opens > > > > and > > > > closes with jaw movement; it has one muscle that helps, but not very > > > > much. > > > > If there is any inflammation that cause it to swell, tonsils and > > > > adenoids > > > > that block its motion, or deformation due familial differences (like > > in > > > > my > > > > family) or craniofacial anomaly, the Eustachian tube can open very > > > > poorly or > > > > close completely causing the cycle of events described above. PE > tubes > > > > are > > > > bobbins or grommets placed in a hole that is cut in the eardrum to > > keep > > > > the > > > > hole open so that the middle ear will be ventilated and negative > > > > pressure > > > > does not form. In most cases, the PE tube is designed so that the > > > > eardrum > > > > grows behind it and pushes into the ear canal. By age 10-11 years, > > after > > > > the > > > > skull has matured, the Eustachian tubes move up to angle of 45 > degrees > > > > and > > > > normally open well on their own and middle ear problems and > infections > > > > go > > > > away. However, if the Eustachian tube is structurally abnormal or if > > > > there > > > > are allergies (second hand cigarette smoke is a big one and many > > > > allergens > > > > as well) and chronic infections in the throat, the person may end up > > > > having > > > > middle ear problems caused by Eustachian tube dysfunction into > > > > adulthood. > > > > > > > > Thirty years ago, someone told me of an attempt to improve > Eustachian > > > > tube > > > > function in which a very narrow soft tube was inserted into the > > > > Eustachian > > > > tube to keep it open. The result was that the thin tube irritated > the > > > > Eustachian tube and caused it to function more poorly; ultimately > the > > > > thin > > > > tube worked its way up to the middle ear and pierced the eardrum. > That > > > > solution was abandoned quickly. I know of no other attempts to > > > > surgically > > > > treat or re-construct this delicate and vital structure. If your > child > > > > has > > > > had chronic Eustachian problems and they go away, consider yourself > > > > fortunate and try to identify your guardian angel. > > > > > > > > Jim Thelin, audiologist, father of two boys who each had 3 sets of > PE > > > > tubes > > > > > > > > -- > > > > " It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to > > persist > > > > in > > > > delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. " --Carl Sagan > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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