Guest guest Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 Hello Joanne, I was saddened to read your letter about Eddie's IEP. The story is so familiar in many ways. Our daughter had limited communication at age 8 and has improved over the years. Many people said that language development wasn't possible after a certain age, but I very strongly disagree. One of the issues I totally regret is that Kendra did not have PECS beyond kindergarten. She was doing really well with it but the first grade teacher didn't actually know what to do, so it was stopped. We have done PECS at home and I would strongly encourage you to do that also if at all possible. I attended at PECS workshop which was very worthwhile. Perhaps the most exciting thing I heard during the workshop was that two inidividuals, who were age 30 and above, had learned to communicate and then verbalize through the use of PECS. I can tell you it was a very moving videotape that told this story at the training. Others had given up on the two individuals previously. It is exactly this kind of issue that led me to apply to a graduate program in communicative disorders. I have completed one of three years leading to the master's degree. I figured it I can't beat them I could join them :-) and affect really critical changes in the speech and language community. There are some truly wonderful individuals out there who understand the importance of supporting language development, but they are few and very far between. Is a speech and language pathologist on the IEP team? This person should have the letters SLP, CCC after their name. If they do not, they may not be a speech pathologist but rather a teacher who teaches speech. Or, it's possible they obtained their degree prior to the requirement of a masters degree being in place. Ask for the research based justification for what they are proposing. Ask them to provide you with information that removing the PECS and focusing on an already acquired skill will help him progress. Find out if they have actual PECS trained individuals on staff. Does Eddie have limb apraxia that affects his sign output? Our daughter has this condition and working with her with hand over hand and in small steps has been tremendously helpful. Other specialists that can help you and which should be on the team if vision loss is part of Eddie's profile are deaf blind specialists or teachers of the blind. I can tell you from personal experience that 'yes' and 'no' are not necessarily obtained prior to other communicative intents and expressions. Kendra can read and sign more than 500 hundred signs. She can read and she can type up to fourteen word sentences of ASL/English at times. But it is only recently that she uses 'yes' and 'no' correctly. I would not wait for that milestone before moving on to other things. One approach that helped our daughter was applied behavioral analysis. She relaxed and thrived in the supported, predictable environment. Her language improved. We trained a person who was deaf and used ASL to work with our daughter in a verbally (in this case, signed). based program. Eddie's lack of motivation you mention probably has some connection to the rate of language growth. But, even if the motivation is not tremendous at present, it sounds like there are some things that DO motivate him enough to communicate. These factions can be capitalized upon and used to lead to greater language growth. I always smile thinking of the Appell family who creatively asked their daughter, Abbey, to request a pillowcase each night when they changed the linens. There were several choices available to her so she used her expression to make the request known. Eddie's IEP should reflect his individual needs. I totally support you in your viewpoint that taking away the PECS at this point does not appear to have a valid rationale behind it. Why would something that is working be taken away, and replaced with something he already knows - which doesn't need practice? A positive turning point for our daughter came when an aide with fluent ASL skills was assigned to her thoughout the day. We needed to have an advocate present with us at the IEP to make this happen. wkeedy@... Mom to Kendra, , and Camille Original message: To: CHARGE Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 6:41 PM Subject: Re: New IEP LOWERS the bar. Help! Joanne Lent Joannelent@...> wrote: I can't believe what I'm reading. Eddie's new IEP LOWERS the bar. I've got until Monday night to prepare and I need help. Eddie will be 8 shortly after the school year starts in September. He is VERY delayed, non verbal, with no communication system. He uses gestures and vocalization. He will sign more, milk, and eat spontaneously, a few others with prompting. He does well with mayer-johnson-type picture cards, when he's interested in what the choices are. Unfortunately, he's not interested in much. Still, that doesn't explain why they took took use of pecs OUT of the iep or why a new " goal " is pushing something away when he doesn't want it. He does that already!!!! He needs to take the next step toward communication, but they don't believe he can understand the concepts " yes " and " no, " for example, and they want him to master one step before moving on to the next. Does anyone know of any articles out there that state that chargers/deafblind don't necessarily do things in order? That any and every method of communication should be tried--simultaneously--to give him the greatest chance to find what works for him? I need ammunition. Thanks! joanne --------------------------------- Be smarter than spam. 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