Re: lowering hc, was bad headaches on florinef

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March 8, 2008

Oh, Val, you got it so right! I'm so excited to be lowering hc!

Never thought I'd get there, LOL.

I'll get back in touch after I raise Armour to 60, maybe in a few

days. Also, just received my compounded hormones and thinking of

starting out with 1-2 mg DHEA, as my dhea lab is in the dirt, along

with all the others. But maybe that would just confuse everything?

More later.

Thanks, Val!

Dahlia

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March 8, 2008

DHEA adn estrogen should start together. So might be best to wait till

you get the HC adjusted first.

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March 8, 2008

That's great info! I have both, as well as T and P (and

pregnenolone, but after reading here, I'm not that interested in

using it). My post-meno estradiol was 23.5, so I might see some real

benefit in using E, don't you think?

As you suggest, I'll wait til after getting my hc dosing right. I

wonder how low I can go on hc? Any suggestions, Val?

Dahlia

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> DHEA adn estrogen should start together. So might be best to wait

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Well you need to do it slowly as now that you have reserves, it can

creep up on you! So I would only cahnge by NO MORE thnan 5Mg weekly.I

would also nto try to go below 25mg in light of what you needed

pre-Florinef. At 25mg if you still have fluid retentoin, puffy face, I

would be inclined to lower the Florinef 1/4 tab. And always keep in mind

HYO causes fluid too so it may be unmasjked as you get the adrenals well

supported. So at 25mg HC I would raise the thyroid some and then once

thta is done, add in low dose estrogen and DHEA. Then testosterone or

Progesteroine if you get sore boobs right away, progesterone will help

moderate that estrogenic effect. Both testosterone and Estrogen help

insulin resistance, testosterone alot and estrogen a little, so you may

have some really good inprovements in how you feel from them.

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Exactly! That's what I'm afraid of!

>>So I would only cahnge by NO MORE thnan 5Mg weekly.I

> would also nto try to go below 25mg in light of what you needed

> pre-Florinef. At 25mg if you still have fluid retentoin, puffy

face, I

> would be inclined to lower the Florinef 1/4 tab. And always keep in

mind

> HYO causes fluid too so it may be unmasjked as you get the adrenals

well

> supported. So at 25mg HC I would raise the thyroid some and then

once

> thta is done, add in low dose estrogen and DHEA.>>

Oh, so don't raise armour yet? I was kinda thinking of adding in 15

mg to get to 60 to see if that helps water retention...should I wait

a week? I feel pretty good, so I think that would be okay.

That's great advice, Val, I so appreciate your in put here.

>>Then testosterone or

> Progesteroine if you get sore boobs right away, progesterone will

help

> moderate that estrogenic effect. Both testosterone and Estrogen

help

> insulin resistance, testosterone alot and estrogen a little, so you

may

> have some really good inprovements in how you feel from them.>>

Very good! I was using tiny doses of P and it was really helping

sleep, but now the Florinef seems to be doing a better job, so I've

dropped P completely. I'm dying to try T, as my levels are below

dirt there, LOL

Dahlia

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It would not hurt to raise the Armoru but don't do it the same time you

lower HC. Give at least 5 days between so ti doesn't tax the adrenals.

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March 8, 2008

Just want to be sure I'm following you: lower hc to 25, wait 5 days,

raise Armour? Or do you mean, hold any dose of hc, wait 5 days and

raise armour? And hold Armour raise for a few days until lowering hc

again?

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> It would not hurt to raise the Armoru but don't do it the same time

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I would just separate raising armour rom lowering HC your choice which

to do first! If you feel more hyo then I would try the armour rise then

wait 5 days to further lower HC.

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thanks Val, I think I got it!! Thanks so much!!

Dahlia

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> I would just separate raising armour rom lowering HC your choice

which

> to do first! If you feel more hyo then I would try the armour rise

then

> wait 5 days to further lower HC.

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