Re: Immunization

[Guest guest]

ive nto been able to have a couple coz of my helath it can hapepn think

hooping cough was one cznt remember ythough

>

> I took my 2 month old CHARGEr to the pediatrician today for our weekly

> check-up and was told by the nurse it was time for her next round of

> shots. The doctor came in, and said that she couldn't get them yet

> because of her condition. He is now consulting with a doctor from

> Stanford about my daughter. Has anyone else ever heard of this?

>

> Thanks

> Trish

> Mom of

> DeJay -4

> ah -3

> Sammy Jo - 2 months Charger

>

>

>

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stand up and speak up!!!!!!! and dont let the world hold you back just go

for it

[Guest guest]

Mercury in immunizations can been a leading factor in autism. There is a

lot of controversy with this. A lot of people think if their is a compromised

condition to begin with this can be enhanced.

If you do the immunizations, make sure they do not piggy back them.

Cathie, mom to 11 yr CHARGEr

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[Guest guest]

I so agree with Debbie. We waited with .

We didn't have any information 22 years ago about potential

problems with imunization, nor did she have an apparently compromised

immune system.

Instead, it was just that intuitive sense that said, wait, wait, wait.

We lost nothing by waiting, and will never know if we gained,

but why take chances when the potential risk is so very

controversial.

in Ma.

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[Guest guest]

Trish,

No I have not heard of this but please let me know what your doctor says

after he consults w/ the other doc. I have an 8 mo old so needless to say

we're in the midst of immunizations too. Nothing's been held off so far. The

only thing I've come ever come across is he cannot have them w/ in two weeks

prior to his heart surgery.

Thanks,

Corrie

mom to Peyton CHARGE 10, Cy 7, 4 and Tate CHARGE 8mos.

>

> I took my 2 month old CHARGEr to the pediatrician today for our weekly

> check-up and was told by the nurse it was time for her next round of

> shots. The doctor came in, and said that she couldn't get them yet

> because of her condition. He is now consulting with a doctor from

> Stanford about my daughter. Has anyone else ever heard of this?

>

> Thanks

> Trish

> Mom of

> DeJay -4

> ah -3

> Sammy Jo - 2 months Charger

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

YES! Kids who have weakened immune systems, compromised health conditions

such as respiratory and pneumonia etc ., should not be immunized until they

are healthier. I wish my old pediatrician was more up on this when I

immunized my son. I wish I never immunized him with anything. Anyway, when

you immunize your child, you are only protecting every other kid. Your

daughter will be fine as long as you are not going out of the country. I

would definitely wait until she is at least 2 to begin any immunizations. I

know so many kids on the spectrum, with ADD all the way to Autism who now

believe it is the immunizations (I also think it is envioronmental as well),

but definitely wait and listen to this doctor.

Also, if you choose to do the MMR shot, do them all separately (Measles,

Mumps and Rubella) which would be 3 different shots at 3 different times and

do it after age 2 at least. This shot has been in the spotlight as throwing

kids who cannot excrete mercury from their bodies " over the edge " and

causing them to become Autistic. Whether it is true or not, no one knows

for sure but that is because the FCC is hiding this. When they sent our

lots of MMR shots over to China, they saw a rise in Autism and it correlated

exactly. Anyway, just my opinions. I'm no doctor, I just know a lot of

Autistic kids and their parents.

Debbie Matasker mom to 10 w/CHARGE, andra 7, 12

Immunization

I took my 2 month old CHARGEr to the pediatrician today for our weekly

check-up and was told by the nurse it was time for her next round of

shots. The doctor came in, and said that she couldn't get them yet

because of her condition. He is now consulting with a doctor from

Stanford about my daughter. Has anyone else ever heard of this?

Thanks

Trish

Mom of

DeJay -4

ah -3

Sammy Jo - 2 months Charger

[Guest guest]

It sounds like you have a doctor who's thinking & thinking ahead. After

the first few, Eddie's pediatrician scheduled the rest of his vaccines

so he wouldn't have more than one at a visit. It meant a few extra

visits, but at least his system wasn't overloaded by everything at

once. Still, I wonder if he'd be interacting better by now (7 1/2) if I

knew then what I know now.

joanne

[Guest guest]

I have quite a few friends w/children w/autism, and the # of kids is growing

like leaps and bounds. It is now know that the Mercury in the immunizations

does effect kids, especially if you are compromised. . We are detoxing

right now and using cellular defense drops. . She does not have Autism,

but just detoxing her has made her neurologically so much more aware.

I did a stupid thing this year, not sure where my head was, but we gave

the flu shot. I know you have to weigh out the pros and cons, and she

has

respiratory issues, big time, so the flu or pneumonia could be really bad for

her. She almost died from RSV pneumonia when she was 3. So we gave her the

flu shot, 5 days later she got the flu it got worse, and ended up getting

pneumonia. It lasted 4 weeks.

Our pediatrician used the single dose shots, so they were thermisol free,

but it did not matter. You are giving live viruses. We have been boosting her

immune system for 4 years now but she was not strong enough to fight this of

very well. She had to go back on the BIPAP and O2 (which it had been years

since we had to do this.)

Yes I know this is a very controversial subject, you have to do what you

think is best, and not everyone will agree.

Cathie, mom to

************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

[Guest guest]

I have quite a few friends w/children w/autism, and the # of kids is growing

like leaps and bounds. It is now know that the Mercury in the immunizations

does effect kids, especially if you are compromised. . We are detoxing

right now and using cellular defense drops. . She does not have Autism,

but just detoxing her has made her neurologically so much more aware.

I did a stupid thing this year, not sure where my head was, but we gave

the flu shot. I know you have to weigh out the pros and cons, and she

has

respiratory issues, big time, so the flu or pneumonia could be really bad for

her. She almost died from RSV pneumonia when she was 3. So we gave her the

flu shot, 5 days later she got the flu it got worse, and ended up getting

pneumonia. It lasted 4 weeks.

Our pediatrician used the single dose shots, so they were thermisol free,

but it did not matter. You are giving live viruses. We have been boosting her

immune system for 4 years now but she was not strong enough to fight this of

very well. She had to go back on the BIPAP and O2 (which it had been years

since we had to do this.)

Yes I know this is a very controversial subject, you have to do what you

think is best, and not everyone will agree.

Cathie, mom to

************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

[Guest guest]

Trish-

Our son with CHARGE is more than seventeen now, and our pediatrician was very

wary of giving his immunizations as per the recommended schedule for

medically unremarkable healthy infants. I think even a medically unremarkable

infant with an illness probably would delay receiving immunizations until their

health seemed well.

did eventually receive all his vaccines, in the same sequence as

recommended. He also received them " all at once " in those horrible groups of

three or more different vaccines at the same time as recommended, but whenever

possible the multiple vaccines typically available as one injection were given

as single vaccine injections (more shots, ouch!).

was nine weeks old when he came home from the NICU and did not start the

vaccines until a few months later. Basically armed with an attitude of waiting

combined with literally waiting until he wasn't ill, I think it took more than

two years to finish off the first series of shots - he was about three.

We were also having isolated incidents of whooping cough show up in our area at

the time, so I was eager to have vaccinated against what we could.

Chicken pox was also a concern with 's multiple stomas and ostomies - and

the flu vaccine with his chronic respiratory illness from chronic aspiration....

this is how we discovered and confirmed is deathly allergic to eggs - both

the chicken pox vaccine and the flu vaccine are cultured in egg.

I am proud of your pediatrician. I loved ours. Her two methods were " better

safe than sorry " and " don't rock the boat " . Worked out pretty well for us. She

retired early when was ten, and I still cry at the thought of her. I

can't imagine going through those difficult years without her. Well, see? I am

crying now!

Best of luck to you and your family-

I hope this helped.

Yuka

Immunization

I took my 2 month old CHARGEr to the pediatrician today for our weekly

check-up and was told by the nurse it was time for her next round of

shots. The doctor came in, and said that she couldn't get them yet

because of her condition. He is now consulting with a doctor from

Stanford about my daughter. Has anyone else ever heard of this?

Thanks

Trish

Mom of

DeJay -4

ah -3

Sammy Jo - 2 months Charger

[Guest guest]

Dear Jeff,

As the facts of autism/ASD are unfolding and coming more into light as we

speak,

I think it's important to remember that a fact is not negated just because

it hasn't

been statistically validated as yet.

I certainly know people whose children changed radically from normal to

" Autistic " within weeks after vaccination.

No amount of " published non-statistics " are going to change that fact,

or their minds, about the unmistakable correlation.

Just because it hasn't yet been identified as " The " causal factor does not

make it false.

Considering that many Chargers have compromised immune systems, it

is not so far-fetched to imagine that in some way their systems could not

handle the immunizations.

If the cause is deemed to be swelling in the brain, this could result from

a faulty immune response-either too much or too little response. We see both

in Charge.

And if it is deemed to be genetic, well, we know that Charge influences many

different genes, including regulatory genes, which are responsible for other

genes and their actions....

So, just because there is no single, or set of defined " cause(s) " means

very little indeed.

I don't believe that our small Charge population is going to jepordize the

general population by proceeding prudently, allowing for some time for

these children to become medically stable, and for their doctors to

determine if immunization is safe for that Charge child.

If my child is vaccinated, then he should not be at risk if exposed, correct?

And frankly, I had every bloody one of those childhood illnesses-

whooping cough, mumps, measles, 3 day measles, and chicken pox,

and what could one possibly say about them compared to autism/asd.

It is essential that we maintain the openness of this forum, and

the immune system is a major consideration for many Charge children.

The facts are not all known, but we do know some Charge children have

behaviors similar to autism/spectrum disorder, and some have the

diagnosis. That alone makes this *discussion* relevant, even essential.

It's about the children, and providing the best possible care, even while

the scientific community is still " fact-finding " .

in Ma. (, 22 yrs old)

************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

[Guest guest]

Dear Jeff,

As the facts of autism/ASD are unfolding and coming more into light as we

speak,

I think it's important to remember that a fact is not negated just because

it hasn't

been statistically validated as yet.

I certainly know people whose children changed radically from normal to

" Autistic " within weeks after vaccination.

No amount of " published non-statistics " are going to change that fact,

or their minds, about the unmistakable correlation.

Just because it hasn't yet been identified as " The " causal factor does not

make it false.

Considering that many Chargers have compromised immune systems, it

is not so far-fetched to imagine that in some way their systems could not

handle the immunizations.

If the cause is deemed to be swelling in the brain, this could result from

a faulty immune response-either too much or too little response. We see both

in Charge.

And if it is deemed to be genetic, well, we know that Charge influences many

different genes, including regulatory genes, which are responsible for other

genes and their actions....

So, just because there is no single, or set of defined " cause(s) " means

very little indeed.

I don't believe that our small Charge population is going to jepordize the

general population by proceeding prudently, allowing for some time for

these children to become medically stable, and for their doctors to

determine if immunization is safe for that Charge child.

If my child is vaccinated, then he should not be at risk if exposed, correct?

And frankly, I had every bloody one of those childhood illnesses-

whooping cough, mumps, measles, 3 day measles, and chicken pox,

and what could one possibly say about them compared to autism/asd.

It is essential that we maintain the openness of this forum, and

the immune system is a major consideration for many Charge children.

The facts are not all known, but we do know some Charge children have

behaviors similar to autism/spectrum disorder, and some have the

diagnosis. That alone makes this *discussion* relevant, even essential.

It's about the children, and providing the best possible care, even while

the scientific community is still " fact-finding " .

in Ma. (, 22 yrs old)

************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

[Guest guest]

Dear Jeff,

As the facts of autism/ASD are unfolding and coming more into light as we

speak,

I think it's important to remember that a fact is not negated just because

it hasn't

been statistically validated as yet.

I certainly know people whose children changed radically from normal to

" Autistic " within weeks after vaccination.

No amount of " published non-statistics " are going to change that fact,

or their minds, about the unmistakable correlation.

Just because it hasn't yet been identified as " The " causal factor does not

make it false.

Considering that many Chargers have compromised immune systems, it

is not so far-fetched to imagine that in some way their systems could not

handle the immunizations.

If the cause is deemed to be swelling in the brain, this could result from

a faulty immune response-either too much or too little response. We see both

in Charge.

And if it is deemed to be genetic, well, we know that Charge influences many

different genes, including regulatory genes, which are responsible for other

genes and their actions....

So, just because there is no single, or set of defined " cause(s) " means

very little indeed.

I don't believe that our small Charge population is going to jepordize the

general population by proceeding prudently, allowing for some time for

these children to become medically stable, and for their doctors to

determine if immunization is safe for that Charge child.

If my child is vaccinated, then he should not be at risk if exposed, correct?

And frankly, I had every bloody one of those childhood illnesses-

whooping cough, mumps, measles, 3 day measles, and chicken pox,

and what could one possibly say about them compared to autism/asd.

It is essential that we maintain the openness of this forum, and

the immune system is a major consideration for many Charge children.

The facts are not all known, but we do know some Charge children have

behaviors similar to autism/spectrum disorder, and some have the

diagnosis. That alone makes this *discussion* relevant, even essential.

It's about the children, and providing the best possible care, even while

the scientific community is still " fact-finding " .

in Ma. (, 22 yrs old)

************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

[Guest guest]

Anyway, when you immunize your child, you are only protecting every other kid.

Debbie,

I have to respectfully disagree with you on this. IF your child was the ONLY

one who didn't get immunized, then this would be true. But " not immunizing " is

becoming more popular these days. I have a friend who home-schools her kids

specifically because she refused to immunize any of them.

Every parent has the right to decide whether or not to immunize their child.

You have to balance the potential risks vs. the benefit. The thing you have to

remember is that these bugs are not extinct. If the population of children who

aren't immunized grows large enough, there is going to be an enviornment for

these diseases to come back to--and they will--because there will be

non-immunized " hosts. " The immunizations were developed for a reason--polio,

mumps, rubella, tetnus, diptheria, pertussis...these are horrible diseases that

have caused a lot of morbidity and mortality.

As Tim wrote in an email earlier this week, the link between

thimerosol-preserved immunizations and autism has never been supported with

scientific proof. I did read with interest the email (I believe sent it)

about the link between immunizations and increased rates of autism. My opinion

on this article was that the information was sensationalized and there wasn't a

lot of fact backing up what was being said. But if you are concerned about this

potential link, then ask for thimerosol-free immunizations. I asked our

pediatrician about this, and he does not give immunizations preserved with

thimerosol.

If your child is acutely ill, then you want to hold off until they are well.

But if the only " illness " is something chronic related to CHARGE syndrome, then

I don't think the Drs. wait. My son received his first immunizations while he

was in the NICU--his prematurity did not affect when they were given, nor did

the fact he had CHARGE Syndrome, nor that he was " sick " enough to be in the

NICU.

This is a controversial topic, and I'm sure parents who's children developed

autism around the same time as they were immunized find little comfort in the

lack of hard evidence either way. I don't mean to criticize any parent who

chooses not to immunize. I just believe strongly that for most children, the

benefits of immunizing and avoiding these horrible childhood diseases outweigh

the potential risks.

(mom to Evan, 21 months)

---------------------------------

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[Guest guest]

Anyway, when you immunize your child, you are only protecting every other kid.

Debbie,

I have to respectfully disagree with you on this. IF your child was the ONLY

one who didn't get immunized, then this would be true. But " not immunizing " is

becoming more popular these days. I have a friend who home-schools her kids

specifically because she refused to immunize any of them.

Every parent has the right to decide whether or not to immunize their child.

You have to balance the potential risks vs. the benefit. The thing you have to

remember is that these bugs are not extinct. If the population of children who

aren't immunized grows large enough, there is going to be an enviornment for

these diseases to come back to--and they will--because there will be

non-immunized " hosts. " The immunizations were developed for a reason--polio,

mumps, rubella, tetnus, diptheria, pertussis...these are horrible diseases that

have caused a lot of morbidity and mortality.

As Tim wrote in an email earlier this week, the link between

thimerosol-preserved immunizations and autism has never been supported with

scientific proof. I did read with interest the email (I believe sent it)

about the link between immunizations and increased rates of autism. My opinion

on this article was that the information was sensationalized and there wasn't a

lot of fact backing up what was being said. But if you are concerned about this

potential link, then ask for thimerosol-free immunizations. I asked our

pediatrician about this, and he does not give immunizations preserved with

thimerosol.

If your child is acutely ill, then you want to hold off until they are well.

But if the only " illness " is something chronic related to CHARGE syndrome, then

I don't think the Drs. wait. My son received his first immunizations while he

was in the NICU--his prematurity did not affect when they were given, nor did

the fact he had CHARGE Syndrome, nor that he was " sick " enough to be in the

NICU.

This is a controversial topic, and I'm sure parents who's children developed

autism around the same time as they were immunized find little comfort in the

lack of hard evidence either way. I don't mean to criticize any parent who

chooses not to immunize. I just believe strongly that for most children, the

benefits of immunizing and avoiding these horrible childhood diseases outweigh

the potential risks.

(mom to Evan, 21 months)

---------------------------------

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Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.

[Guest guest]

Anyway, when you immunize your child, you are only protecting every other kid.

Debbie,

I have to respectfully disagree with you on this. IF your child was the ONLY

one who didn't get immunized, then this would be true. But " not immunizing " is

becoming more popular these days. I have a friend who home-schools her kids

specifically because she refused to immunize any of them.

Every parent has the right to decide whether or not to immunize their child.

You have to balance the potential risks vs. the benefit. The thing you have to

remember is that these bugs are not extinct. If the population of children who

aren't immunized grows large enough, there is going to be an enviornment for

these diseases to come back to--and they will--because there will be

non-immunized " hosts. " The immunizations were developed for a reason--polio,

mumps, rubella, tetnus, diptheria, pertussis...these are horrible diseases that

have caused a lot of morbidity and mortality.

As Tim wrote in an email earlier this week, the link between

thimerosol-preserved immunizations and autism has never been supported with

scientific proof. I did read with interest the email (I believe sent it)

about the link between immunizations and increased rates of autism. My opinion

on this article was that the information was sensationalized and there wasn't a

lot of fact backing up what was being said. But if you are concerned about this

potential link, then ask for thimerosol-free immunizations. I asked our

pediatrician about this, and he does not give immunizations preserved with

thimerosol.

If your child is acutely ill, then you want to hold off until they are well.

But if the only " illness " is something chronic related to CHARGE syndrome, then

I don't think the Drs. wait. My son received his first immunizations while he

was in the NICU--his prematurity did not affect when they were given, nor did

the fact he had CHARGE Syndrome, nor that he was " sick " enough to be in the

NICU.

This is a controversial topic, and I'm sure parents who's children developed

autism around the same time as they were immunized find little comfort in the

lack of hard evidence either way. I don't mean to criticize any parent who

chooses not to immunize. I just believe strongly that for most children, the

benefits of immunizing and avoiding these horrible childhood diseases outweigh

the potential risks.

(mom to Evan, 21 months)

---------------------------------

Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.

[Guest guest]

I'm sorry, I hate to repeat myself, but just because diagnoses of

autism have increased does not mean incidence has increased. There is

no causal relationship that has ever been scientifically shown between

autism and mercury in vaccines.

http://www.quackwatch.org/03HealthPromotion/immu/thimerosal.html

Read more here:

http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2006/03/mercury_and_autism_rfk_jr_drop.php

I don't want to get in an argument about autism causes and yes I have

a cousin who is severely autistic (completely non-communicative at

19). Many of the people who have been the most vocal, have been

pushing this agenda for years with no scientific proof, scaring

parents into not vaccinating their kids (thus putting my kids at

risk). Also they have not disclosed their financial incentives to

keeping this myth alive while putting all the blame on big pharma

quest for profits.

>

> I have quite a few friends w/children w/autism, and the # of kids is

growing

> like leaps and bounds. It is now know that the Mercury in the

immunizations

> does effect kids, especially if you are compromised. . We are

detoxing

> right now and using cellular defense drops. . She does not

have Autism,

> but just detoxing her has made her neurologically so much more aware.

> I did a stupid thing this year, not sure where my head was, but we

gave

> the flu shot. I know you have to weigh out the pros and cons,

and she has

> respiratory issues, big time, so the flu or pneumonia could be

really bad for

> her. She almost died from RSV pneumonia when she was 3. So we

gave her the

> flu shot, 5 days later she got the flu it got worse, and ended up

getting

> pneumonia. It lasted 4 weeks.

> Our pediatrician used the single dose shots, so they were thermisol

free,

> but it did not matter. You are giving live viruses. We have been

boosting her

> immune system for 4 years now but she was not strong enough to

fight this of

> very well. She had to go back on the BIPAP and O2 (which it had

been years

> since we had to do this.)

> Yes I know this is a very controversial subject, you have to do what

you

> think is best, and not everyone will agree.

>

> Cathie, mom to

>

>

>

> ************************************** See what's free at

http://www.aol.com.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I'm sorry, I hate to repeat myself, but just because diagnoses of

autism have increased does not mean incidence has increased. There is

no causal relationship that has ever been scientifically shown between

autism and mercury in vaccines.

http://www.quackwatch.org/03HealthPromotion/immu/thimerosal.html

Read more here:

http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2006/03/mercury_and_autism_rfk_jr_drop.php

I don't want to get in an argument about autism causes and yes I have

a cousin who is severely autistic (completely non-communicative at

19). Many of the people who have been the most vocal, have been

pushing this agenda for years with no scientific proof, scaring

parents into not vaccinating their kids (thus putting my kids at

risk). Also they have not disclosed their financial incentives to

keeping this myth alive while putting all the blame on big pharma

quest for profits.

>

> I have quite a few friends w/children w/autism, and the # of kids is

growing

> like leaps and bounds. It is now know that the Mercury in the

immunizations

> does effect kids, especially if you are compromised. . We are

detoxing

> right now and using cellular defense drops. . She does not

have Autism,

> but just detoxing her has made her neurologically so much more aware.

> I did a stupid thing this year, not sure where my head was, but we

gave

> the flu shot. I know you have to weigh out the pros and cons,

and she has

> respiratory issues, big time, so the flu or pneumonia could be

really bad for

> her. She almost died from RSV pneumonia when she was 3. So we

gave her the

> flu shot, 5 days later she got the flu it got worse, and ended up

getting

> pneumonia. It lasted 4 weeks.

> Our pediatrician used the single dose shots, so they were thermisol

free,

> but it did not matter. You are giving live viruses. We have been

boosting her

> immune system for 4 years now but she was not strong enough to

fight this of

> very well. She had to go back on the BIPAP and O2 (which it had

been years

> since we had to do this.)

> Yes I know this is a very controversial subject, you have to do what

you

> think is best, and not everyone will agree.

>

> Cathie, mom to

>

>

>

> ************************************** See what's free at

http://www.aol.com.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I'm sorry, I hate to repeat myself, but just because diagnoses of

autism have increased does not mean incidence has increased. There is

no causal relationship that has ever been scientifically shown between

autism and mercury in vaccines.

http://www.quackwatch.org/03HealthPromotion/immu/thimerosal.html

Read more here:

http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2006/03/mercury_and_autism_rfk_jr_drop.php

I don't want to get in an argument about autism causes and yes I have

a cousin who is severely autistic (completely non-communicative at

19). Many of the people who have been the most vocal, have been

pushing this agenda for years with no scientific proof, scaring

parents into not vaccinating their kids (thus putting my kids at

risk). Also they have not disclosed their financial incentives to

keeping this myth alive while putting all the blame on big pharma

quest for profits.

>

> I have quite a few friends w/children w/autism, and the # of kids is

growing

> like leaps and bounds. It is now know that the Mercury in the

immunizations

> does effect kids, especially if you are compromised. . We are

detoxing

> right now and using cellular defense drops. . She does not

have Autism,

> but just detoxing her has made her neurologically so much more aware.

> I did a stupid thing this year, not sure where my head was, but we

gave

> the flu shot. I know you have to weigh out the pros and cons,

and she has

> respiratory issues, big time, so the flu or pneumonia could be

really bad for

> her. She almost died from RSV pneumonia when she was 3. So we

gave her the

> flu shot, 5 days later she got the flu it got worse, and ended up

getting

> pneumonia. It lasted 4 weeks.

> Our pediatrician used the single dose shots, so they were thermisol

free,

> but it did not matter. You are giving live viruses. We have been

boosting her

> immune system for 4 years now but she was not strong enough to

fight this of

> very well. She had to go back on the BIPAP and O2 (which it had

been years

> since we had to do this.)

> Yes I know this is a very controversial subject, you have to do what

you

> think is best, and not everyone will agree.

>

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[Guest guest]

I don't want to comment on the autism/mmr vaccine link, but I do want to comment

as a person who has been involved in Deafblind education since 1969 when the

Rubella epidemic was at it's highest. This was just before the Rubella vaccine

came into our world. The number of women who were exposed to Rubella produced

about 30,000 (surviving) children who were born with significant disabilities

including deafness, blindness, cognitive, neurological, significant behavioral,

and developmental problems not to mention some significant health issues (heart

defects, glaucoma) and who continue to be faced with " late onset conditions "

such as thyroid conditions, progression of the glaucoma, diabetes, and some have

the most unfortunate issue of developing post-rubella panencephalitis which

progresses to death--there is no cure. So.... from my point of view NOT

vacinating children is not an option. We have successfully eradicated Rubella

in the modern world as of 2004 and while some people will argue that the price

may not be worth it (those supporting the autism position), I have watched these

people and families suffer there own personal losses, isolation, and grief. I

do think that people must make their own decisions based on their family's

needs.

pam

[Guest guest]

I don't want to comment on the autism/mmr vaccine link, but I do want to comment

as a person who has been involved in Deafblind education since 1969 when the

Rubella epidemic was at it's highest. This was just before the Rubella vaccine

came into our world. The number of women who were exposed to Rubella produced

about 30,000 (surviving) children who were born with significant disabilities

including deafness, blindness, cognitive, neurological, significant behavioral,

and developmental problems not to mention some significant health issues (heart

defects, glaucoma) and who continue to be faced with " late onset conditions "

such as thyroid conditions, progression of the glaucoma, diabetes, and some have

the most unfortunate issue of developing post-rubella panencephalitis which

progresses to death--there is no cure. So.... from my point of view NOT

vacinating children is not an option. We have successfully eradicated Rubella

in the modern world as of 2004 and while some people will argue that the price

may not be worth it (those supporting the autism position), I have watched these

people and families suffer there own personal losses, isolation, and grief. I

do think that people must make their own decisions based on their family's

needs.

pam

[Guest guest]

I don't want to comment on the autism/mmr vaccine link, but I do want to comment

as a person who has been involved in Deafblind education since 1969 when the

Rubella epidemic was at it's highest. This was just before the Rubella vaccine

came into our world. The number of women who were exposed to Rubella produced

about 30,000 (surviving) children who were born with significant disabilities

including deafness, blindness, cognitive, neurological, significant behavioral,

and developmental problems not to mention some significant health issues (heart

defects, glaucoma) and who continue to be faced with " late onset conditions "

such as thyroid conditions, progression of the glaucoma, diabetes, and some have

the most unfortunate issue of developing post-rubella panencephalitis which

progresses to death--there is no cure. So.... from my point of view NOT

vacinating children is not an option. We have successfully eradicated Rubella

in the modern world as of 2004 and while some people will argue that the price

may not be worth it (those supporting the autism position), I have watched these

people and families suffer there own personal losses, isolation, and grief. I

do think that people must make their own decisions based on their family's

needs.

pam

[Guest guest]

We have not heard of this at all. We told our doctor that we wanted every shot

given at a different time not all together. We had to work hard at that, but

they did as we asked.

, Randy & Garland Goodwin

---- Trish Gray tgluvly@...> wrote:

=============

I took my 2 month old CHARGEr to the pediatrician today for our weekly

check-up and was told by the nurse it was time for her next round of

shots. The doctor came in, and said that she couldn't get them yet

because of her condition. He is now consulting with a doctor from

Stanford about my daughter. Has anyone else ever heard of this?

Thanks

Trish

Mom of

DeJay -4

ah -3

Sammy Jo - 2 months Charger

[Guest guest]

We have not heard of this at all. We told our doctor that we wanted every shot

given at a different time not all together. We had to work hard at that, but

they did as we asked.

, Randy & Garland Goodwin

---- Trish Gray tgluvly@...> wrote:

=============

I took my 2 month old CHARGEr to the pediatrician today for our weekly

check-up and was told by the nurse it was time for her next round of

shots. The doctor came in, and said that she couldn't get them yet

because of her condition. He is now consulting with a doctor from

Stanford about my daughter. Has anyone else ever heard of this?

Thanks

Trish

Mom of

DeJay -4

ah -3

Sammy Jo - 2 months Charger

[Guest guest]

We have not heard of this at all. We told our doctor that we wanted every shot

given at a different time not all together. We had to work hard at that, but

they did as we asked.

, Randy & Garland Goodwin

---- Trish Gray tgluvly@...> wrote:

=============

I took my 2 month old CHARGEr to the pediatrician today for our weekly

check-up and was told by the nurse it was time for her next round of

shots. The doctor came in, and said that she couldn't get them yet

because of her condition. He is now consulting with a doctor from

Stanford about my daughter. Has anyone else ever heard of this?

Thanks

Trish

Mom of

DeJay -4

ah -3

Sammy Jo - 2 months Charger

[Guest guest]

Trish,

My daughter was given her 2 month shots. She'll be ready for her 4

month shots in a couple of weeks. I was a little worried at the time

about the shots, but she did ok. She was cranky and tired and ran a

low fever for a day after the shots (just like my older children).

She had heart surgery a month before but was stable / healthy at the

time of the shots.

I'm curious what your pediatrician finds out. I do like the idea of

only doing one shot at a time and will talk to our pediatrician about

that for the next shots.

Margaret

Mom to 20, Dale 13, and Grace 3 1/2 month Charger

>

> I took my 2 month old CHARGEr to the pediatrician today for our

weekly

> check-up and was told by the nurse it was time for her next round of

> shots. The doctor came in, and said that she couldn't get them yet

> because of her condition. He is now consulting with a doctor from

> Stanford about my daughter. Has anyone else ever heard of this?

>

> Thanks

> Trish

> Mom of

> DeJay -4

> ah -3

> Sammy Jo - 2 months Charger

>