Re: Help with High Cortisol Levels and other hormone issues

[Guest guest]

I do nto believe the progesterone directly caused the high cortiosl. BUT

Indirectly it may have been part of the probelm as it created STRESS on

your body whihc in turn creates high cortios . BUT loing term

hyothyroidism also can cause enough stress t raise cortisll leels and is

the USUAL cause. You stil looked by labs ot be pretty hypothyroid to me,

so do follow up wiht more testing once on the 3 grains for a while(6-8

weeks). Read abotu the stages of adrneal fatigue. You are simoly in

earkly stages where high cortils is common, Iwould suggest Phosphatidyl

Serine to help lower it safely, and ashwaganda and rhodiola ot heop

support your adrenals while ithey are producing this much. B vitamins

especially B12 and sea salt may also be helpful. The PS you would need

abotu 1000-1500mg in the daytime to help lower those levels,

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[Guest guest]

I do nto believe the progesterone directly caused the high cortiosl. BUT

Indirectly it may have been part of the probelm as it created STRESS on

your body whihc in turn creates high cortios . BUT loing term

hyothyroidism also can cause enough stress t raise cortisll leels and is

the USUAL cause. You stil looked by labs ot be pretty hypothyroid to me,

so do follow up wiht more testing once on the 3 grains for a while(6-8

weeks). Read abotu the stages of adrneal fatigue. You are simoly in

earkly stages where high cortils is common, Iwould suggest Phosphatidyl

Serine to help lower it safely, and ashwaganda and rhodiola ot heop

support your adrenals while ithey are producing this much. B vitamins

especially B12 and sea salt may also be helpful. The PS you would need

abotu 1000-1500mg in the daytime to help lower those levels,

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

[Guest guest]

I do nto believe the progesterone directly caused the high cortiosl. BUT

Indirectly it may have been part of the probelm as it created STRESS on

your body whihc in turn creates high cortios . BUT loing term

hyothyroidism also can cause enough stress t raise cortisll leels and is

the USUAL cause. You stil looked by labs ot be pretty hypothyroid to me,

so do follow up wiht more testing once on the 3 grains for a while(6-8

weeks). Read abotu the stages of adrneal fatigue. You are simoly in

earkly stages where high cortils is common, Iwould suggest Phosphatidyl

Serine to help lower it safely, and ashwaganda and rhodiola ot heop

support your adrenals while ithey are producing this much. B vitamins

especially B12 and sea salt may also be helpful. The PS you would need

abotu 1000-1500mg in the daytime to help lower those levels,

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

[Guest guest]

Thank you Val for the great information. I did order some PS but was

unsure as to the amount to take so thanks for that info. I am hoping

to re-test the thyroid in another couple weeks (its been about 8 weeks

then on 3 grains) to see where I am at and I will post those results

then.

>

[Guest guest]

Progesterone is indeed a precursor to cortisol, depending on your

particular body make-up. There is a pathway that progesterone follows,

and ONE path can lead to cortisol production.

[Guest guest]

>>Progesterone is indeed a precursor to cortisol, depending on your

particular body make-up. There is a pathway that progesterone follows,

and ONE path can lead to cortisol production.<<

Progesterone is indeed a precursor, BUT in adrenal fatigeu, MOST pathways are

impaired. Particularly the cortilsl pathways. THUS why taking progesterone or

pregnenolone as some docs are fond of, does nto correct low cortisol except in

the VERY rare case. This si the same premise why T4 only meds do not correct

hypothyroidism, they are ONLY ONE step away from the active hormone T3, but stil

do nto work right how would you expect 5 conversions to be working not only

well, but too well to turn progesterone into Cortisol? If this were the case,

treating lwo cortis would be easy by just adding progesterone. I wish.

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[Guest guest]

I don't think you can make a judgment on WHO converts and who doesn't.

I am just stating the fact that there IS indeed a pathway from

progesterone to cortisol, and I would suppose only a detailed lab

investigation would be needed to show someone IS NOT converting.

[Guest guest]

>>I don't think you can make a judgment on WHO converts and who doesn't.

I am just stating the fact that there IS indeed a pathway from

progesterone to cortisol, and I would suppose only a detailed lab

investigation would be needed to show someone IS NOT converting.<<

I am not making any judgements here just an educated opinion after seeing

HUNDREDS of labs with cortisol issues. Many people here cannot GET detailed labs

due to poor or no doctor involvement so I simply put the MOST LIKELY facts out

here. If all conversions worked as they shoudl cholesterol is all any of us

would need, but sadly it isn;t. The reasons the adrenals fail is due to the

conversions failing, why would you depend on one that takes five or more

coversions to be a fact?

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[Guest guest]

So am I not allowed to give MY opinion based on what I've read on

different medical websites about the pathways of steroids?? Shouldn't

people who ask questions be helped by hearing about all the

possibilities?? I have been a member on many boards, and have always

appreciated hearing what all responders have to say so I can make a

connection to my case or read up on something a responder has

mentioned. I have never, however, on any of my boards, been attacked

for giving a response on what medical literature states. My gosh!

[Guest guest]

WHOA, who is attacking you? Your opinion is very welcome here as long as

it is not star=ted as fact as are all opinions. But if you can;t take

some rebuttal about it.. Well that is not an attack.

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