Guest guest Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 If so - should treatment be in this order? ADRENALS B12 THYROID DHEA TESTOSTERONE Not neceaasrily, adrenals, and SOME testosterone can be started to gether. The testosterone will help the adrelas and the insulin resistance. Then B12 and thyroid could be started next and lastly DHEA. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 Ok - Thanks. His MD didn't want to prescribe Cortef b/c he thought it would raise his blood sugar. WILL IT??? That's why I'm thinking of starting him on Isocort. Also, his B12 is REALLY low: 243 (193-982) Most of his symptoms are low B12 - testosterone, not adrenal. His Saliva tests were pathetically low: CORTISOL 8am 3 (13-24) 12 noon 8 (5-10) 5pm 1 (3-8) midnight <1 (1-4) DHEA = 1 (3-10) BUT his blood work wasn't as bad: STIM test: Baseline Cortisol: 19.7 Cortisol 1/2 hr: 25.7 Cortisol 1 hr: 29.0 Interpretation of ACTH STIM Test: Baseline Cortisol: >6 ug/dl Peak Cortisol: >20 ug/dl AM CORTISOL 19.8 (2-23) FERRITIN 59 (20-300) Microsomal Antibody Thyroid Peroxidase Ab 0.3 (0.0-3.9 IU/ml) SERUM TESTOSTERONE 158L (350-720 ngg/dL) ANA by IFA, IgG Titer 1.40 Anti-Nuclear Antibody *DETECTED So I'm wondering what you think of his adrenals??? AND Is it safe to start him on Isocort while he's on meds for type2 Diabetes? THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!! > > If so - should treatment be in this order? > ADRENALS > B12 > THYROID > DHEA > TESTOSTERONE > > Not neceaasrily, adrenals, and SOME testosterone can be started to gether. The testosterone will help the adrelas and the insulin resistance. Then B12 and thyroid could be started next and lastly DHEA. > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 I am also Diabetic and when I take HC my glucose goes down as it helps the thyroid work which lowers glucose and insulin reisstance. Now if he takes TOO MUCH, it will have the opposite effect. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://www.seewell4less.com/Valspage.htm Medical Alert Bracelets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 Oh, that's really good to know! Thank you! Would you mind glancing through his labs and let me know if you think Isocort would do it for him? Also, his B12 is REALLY low: 243 (193-982) Most of his symptoms are low B12 - testosterone, not adrenal. His Saliva tests were pathetically low: CORTISOL 8am 3 (13-24) 12 noon 8 (5-10) 5pm 1 (3-8) midnight <1 (1-4) DHEA = 1 (3-10) BUT his blood work wasn't as bad: STIM test: Baseline Cortisol: 19.7 Cortisol 1/2 hr: 25.7 Cortisol 1 hr: 29.0 Interpretation of ACTH STIM Test: Baseline Cortisol: >6 ug/dl Peak Cortisol: >20 ug/dl AM CORTISOL 19.8 (2-23) FERRITIN 59 (20-300) Microsomal Antibody Thyroid Peroxidase Ab 0.3 (0.0-3.9 IU/ml) SERUM TESTOSTERONE 158L (350-720 ngg/dL) ANA by IFA, IgG Titer 1.40 Anti-Nuclear Antibody *DETECTED So I'm wondering what you think of his adrenals??? THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 No Isocort will not be anywhere near enough for these labs. The bad news is this si most liekly pituitary. His adrenals responded well to the stim, which means the adrenals CAN respond to ACTH. He should have DOUBLED wiht the stim in an hour so adrenals are weak, but still functional. Did they do an ACTH serum? That also would have helped clarify a pituitary problem. but either wya with these saliva labs he will need HC. And LOTS of testosterone! Iron would also be helpful. 8am 3 (13-24) 12 noon 8 (5-10) 5pm 1 (3-8) midnight <1 (1-4) DHEA = 1 (3-10) BUT his blood work wasn't as bad: STIM test: Baseline Cortisol: 19.7 Cortisol 1/2 hr: 25.7 Cortisol 1 hr: 29.0 Interpretation of ACTH STIM Test: Baseline Cortisol: >6 ug/dl Peak Cortisol: >20 ug/dl -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://www.seewell4less.com/Valspage.htm Medical Alert Bracelets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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