Re: Confused from new Endo visit

[Guest guest]

Your doc is a little " off " and I personally wouldn't trust him. It's

GOOD to have underactive adrenals?! Try to get anyone here to agree

to that statement! Excessive cortisol inhibits T4 to T3 converson,

thus making you hypo that way, and some people gain weight with high

cortisol.

Suggesting gastric bypass is such a cop-out. You have an endocrine

condition, which when corrected, may result in some of your weight

coming off without such drastic, permanently disabling surgery. I

would not go that route till you've at least gotten your cortisol and

thyroid stabilized. Eating a high fat, moderate protein, low carb

diet also helps with weight.

If you're on a T3/T4 med, it seems TSH has to be .0x to be optimal.

I would not want the doctor dosing me by TSH anyway. That is

personally why I have adrenal fatigue. Get someone to look only at

Free T3 and Free T4. I would also still prefer Armour to Thryolar

because of the T1, T2, and calcitonin it has that Thyrolar doesn't.

Here's an analogy to use. Since I'm providing my thyroid hormones

with medication, then theoretically, my TSH should be 0, because if

it's any more than that, then my pituitary is saying it needs more,

which means I'm not supplementing enough.

Your cholesterol is another blood indicator that can be used. If

it's too high (over 200), you need more thyroid. Too low (less than

160), you need less. There is medical literature that supports that

high cholesterol is merely low thyroid function, so you can show him

that if necessary.

Barb

" woslambert " wrote:

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> Today I saw a new Endo in town and wanted to try to gain some

insight

> on what this man is talking about. I showed him my saliva cortisol

> labs and he said it didn't look like I had an adrenal problem. Said

> what people didn't know was that it would benefit them ot have an

> underactive adrenal gland that way they didn't gain weight from the

> excess cortisol production. He took more blood work and said if my

> labs run ok he'd pry prescribe Thyrolar because it was t4/t3 combo

> like Armour. Said 95% of his patients feel better on that than just

> synthroid alone. He said he likes a TSH to be supressed to 2 or

below.

> I told him I'd gained 6lbs since I was at the doc in Feb and I'm

> continuing to gain and feel cruddy. HE said he normally doesn't

treat

> adrenals based on the reason I stated above. He checked my legs and

my

> hands and said I didn't appear to have cushings but I have always

> suspected hashi's. What I found odd was he took my blood himself and

> only took one large vial. Before I had several tubes taken by the

> labs. I dont know if that means anything but he didn't have Drug

> company propaganda all over his office and he even had a sign posted

> saying he only saw certain drug companies at certain hours and

they'd

> have to wait on him. I felt htat was a decent sign but I'm still

weary

> about him not treating my adrenals.

>

> I'm still confused on the cortisol stuff though. Doesn't excess

> cortisol make you bigger? My family doc is suggesting I do lap band

or

> gastric bypass. Said I'd pry be one of those people that stayed big

> all my life if I didn't.

>

[Guest guest]

Barb,

Thanks for replying to my post. I was beginning to think I was passed over lol.

I'm a lil confused by this statement. I have low cortisol based on my saliva

labs. So wouldn't that mean that my body doesn't produce enough cortisol? I'm

sorry if I sound stupid. I just can't wrap my brain around all of this anymore.

Val looked at my labs a few days ago and said I should start on HC immediately

but I'm not sure what dosage or how to go about it. Is there a dosing schedule

or something to go by? She also said I shoudl start DHEA at least 5mg.

<<<.... Excessive cortisol inhibits T4 to T3 converson,

thus making you hypo that way, and some people gain weight with high

cortisol.

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[Guest guest]

>>Val looked at my labs a few days ago and said I should start on HC immediately

but I'm not sure what dosage or how to go about it. Is there a dosing schedule

or something to go by? She also said I shoudl start DHEA at least 5mg. <<

Go to our files section and look for How to Treat Adrenals. There is a rampo up

schedule for HC and Isocort there.

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[Guest guest]

My response below was to explain your doctor's asinine statement about

why high cortisol was bad and low cortisol might be a blessing. You

tested as having low cortisol, so yes, in your case, you adrenals are

not producing enough. Once you support your adrenals with Isocort or

HC and other vitamins/supplements, you'll be able to raise your thyroid

dose, which should help you lose some weight.

Barb

misty lambert wrote:

> I have low cortisol based on my saliva labs. So wouldn't that mean

that my body doesn't produce enough cortisol?

> <<<.... Excessive cortisol inhibits T4 to T3 converson,

> thus making you hypo that way, and some people gain weight with high

> cortisol.