Guest guest Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 off of the top of my head here are a couple, others will be more helpfulll a. intervenor in class to take notes make sure he hears and sees the information b. text size? make it easier to read c. how is the material being taught? is it being taught in a way that he can understand the material? I dunno what elce to suggest sorry im trying to finish my good copy of my homework at the school computer lab as I have no working computer sorry Take care! Chantelle > > hi all, I need to ask those of you who have older kids or anyone who has > any ideas about homework. > > it is really becoming a pain in the a@# to do social studies and > science. he cannot read it--he is at a first grade reading level--maybe, > and doing 4-5th grade social studies and science. which is wonderful, but he > cannot read the info and then he comes home with pages of questions to be > answered about what they are talking about and they need to be in complete > --full sentences and guess who writes them? I did 4/5 grade > already. basically, I am doing his work. I try to make him read the > sentences--the answers--1/2 of it he has no clue what it says and for him to > write it or even type it, a half hours homework would be hours. > > I know it will only get worse as he goes on--it's not that I don't want to > help him, but even the math I write the answers. any suggestions? > > thanks, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 , I so know what you are talking about. I hated, hated homework time and if I did then Patty did twice as much. Just sitting still for more than 15 to 20 minutes at a time was a killer for her. And that's after a full day of school. What helped the most was I wrote a list of her homework and when she finished one she'd cross that baby off. We also had planned breaks, I had her chew gum, and I basically just prayed we'd end. The fatigue for our kids is huge too. It takes tons of energy listening to the teacher, read the information, figure out what the information really is about and then coming to some sort of understanding or conclusion and THEN to go home, remember all of that and then to put it down on paper was just ridiculous. Oh yea, and first that has to have some sort of meaningful organization about the topic or task. UGH. So, we had Patty do less work ( mostly half) but stay within the curriculum. Although there were some things I thought were useless we still did them as they helped Patty's learning strategies develop further. But math, oh gosh. Instead of doing 50 problems we did 25. Instead of doing mental math she learned how to use a calculator. As for science and social studies and language arts there are many things to do but I feel the one that works the best is to have the papers scanned and when you put it on your computer he can fill in the answers right there and then. If you have Kurzwiel you can also have it read to him. There's tons you can do with technology. Oh, and writing by hand was a killer too. It took tons of focus just to get her print between the lines and legible enough to then go back and read what she wrote. She worked so hard on the physical process of the activity that she lost the product of it. There were just to many things going on to easily do homework. I also let the teachers know about the physical/disability with homework. They too came up with different strategies. Remember, great stress is just an overload for many of our kids. Once she reached that point there was little to no meaningful work to be done. Thank goodness we lived through that time. I have to honestly add that my parents felt the same about me and my homework. My siblings just sat and did their work. Oh I got so bored I'd daydream, sneak out, or just do as little as possible. We must remember our children struggle to do things that come easily to others but we must also remember that not all of it is CHARGE. Some of it is ? genetics? My mother always used to say she wished I had a child like me. Hmmm. When all else fails, run and hide! Bonnie, Mom to Kris 24, Patty CHARGE 22, and wife to ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 , I so know what you are talking about. I hated, hated homework time and if I did then Patty did twice as much. Just sitting still for more than 15 to 20 minutes at a time was a killer for her. And that's after a full day of school. What helped the most was I wrote a list of her homework and when she finished one she'd cross that baby off. We also had planned breaks, I had her chew gum, and I basically just prayed we'd end. The fatigue for our kids is huge too. It takes tons of energy listening to the teacher, read the information, figure out what the information really is about and then coming to some sort of understanding or conclusion and THEN to go home, remember all of that and then to put it down on paper was just ridiculous. Oh yea, and first that has to have some sort of meaningful organization about the topic or task. UGH. So, we had Patty do less work ( mostly half) but stay within the curriculum. Although there were some things I thought were useless we still did them as they helped Patty's learning strategies develop further. But math, oh gosh. Instead of doing 50 problems we did 25. Instead of doing mental math she learned how to use a calculator. As for science and social studies and language arts there are many things to do but I feel the one that works the best is to have the papers scanned and when you put it on your computer he can fill in the answers right there and then. If you have Kurzwiel you can also have it read to him. There's tons you can do with technology. Oh, and writing by hand was a killer too. It took tons of focus just to get her print between the lines and legible enough to then go back and read what she wrote. She worked so hard on the physical process of the activity that she lost the product of it. There were just to many things going on to easily do homework. I also let the teachers know about the physical/disability with homework. They too came up with different strategies. Remember, great stress is just an overload for many of our kids. Once she reached that point there was little to no meaningful work to be done. Thank goodness we lived through that time. I have to honestly add that my parents felt the same about me and my homework. My siblings just sat and did their work. Oh I got so bored I'd daydream, sneak out, or just do as little as possible. We must remember our children struggle to do things that come easily to others but we must also remember that not all of it is CHARGE. Some of it is ? genetics? My mother always used to say she wished I had a child like me. Hmmm. When all else fails, run and hide! Bonnie, Mom to Kris 24, Patty CHARGE 22, and wife to ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 , I so know what you are talking about. I hated, hated homework time and if I did then Patty did twice as much. Just sitting still for more than 15 to 20 minutes at a time was a killer for her. And that's after a full day of school. What helped the most was I wrote a list of her homework and when she finished one she'd cross that baby off. We also had planned breaks, I had her chew gum, and I basically just prayed we'd end. The fatigue for our kids is huge too. It takes tons of energy listening to the teacher, read the information, figure out what the information really is about and then coming to some sort of understanding or conclusion and THEN to go home, remember all of that and then to put it down on paper was just ridiculous. Oh yea, and first that has to have some sort of meaningful organization about the topic or task. UGH. So, we had Patty do less work ( mostly half) but stay within the curriculum. Although there were some things I thought were useless we still did them as they helped Patty's learning strategies develop further. But math, oh gosh. Instead of doing 50 problems we did 25. Instead of doing mental math she learned how to use a calculator. As for science and social studies and language arts there are many things to do but I feel the one that works the best is to have the papers scanned and when you put it on your computer he can fill in the answers right there and then. If you have Kurzwiel you can also have it read to him. There's tons you can do with technology. Oh, and writing by hand was a killer too. It took tons of focus just to get her print between the lines and legible enough to then go back and read what she wrote. She worked so hard on the physical process of the activity that she lost the product of it. There were just to many things going on to easily do homework. I also let the teachers know about the physical/disability with homework. They too came up with different strategies. Remember, great stress is just an overload for many of our kids. Once she reached that point there was little to no meaningful work to be done. Thank goodness we lived through that time. I have to honestly add that my parents felt the same about me and my homework. My siblings just sat and did their work. Oh I got so bored I'd daydream, sneak out, or just do as little as possible. We must remember our children struggle to do things that come easily to others but we must also remember that not all of it is CHARGE. Some of it is ? genetics? My mother always used to say she wished I had a child like me. Hmmm. When all else fails, run and hide! Bonnie, Mom to Kris 24, Patty CHARGE 22, and wife to ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 they make the notes for him in large text the exact info they go over in sign, verbally and visually--but he cannot cognitivelly read the words. thanks for the input hope your school is going well. maria Re: homework off of the top of my head here are a couple, others will be more helpfulll a. intervenor in class to take notes make sure he hears and sees the information b. text size? make it easier to read c. how is the material being taught? is it being taught in a way that he can understand the material? I dunno what elce to suggest sorry im trying to finish my good copy of my homework at the school computer lab as I have no working computer sorry Take care! Chantelle > > hi all, I need to ask those of you who have older kids or anyone who has > any ideas about homework. > > it is really becoming a pain in the a@# to do social studies and > science. he cannot read it--he is at a first grade reading level--maybe, > and doing 4-5th grade social studies and science. which is wonderful, but he > cannot read the info and then he comes home with pages of questions to be > answered about what they are talking about and they need to be in complete > --full sentences and guess who writes them? I did 4/5 grade > already. basically, I am doing his work. I try to make him read the > sentences--the answers--1/2 of it he has no clue what it says and for him to > write it or even type it, a half hours homework would be hours. > > I know it will only get worse as he goes on--it's not that I don't want to > help him, but even the math I write the answers. any suggestions? > > thanks, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 - I look forward to hearing from the folks who have been-there-done-that. My first thought is that he should have those text books on tape so he can listen and read along instead of trying to read independently. Then he needs the questions in a different format. Instead of having to write a complete sentence, he should be doing fill-in the blank with a word bank to choose the answers from, T/F, or multiple choice. He can access the same material - but through different input and demonstrating his understanding in a way that is not so laborious. If the full content is too much, then you can modify that as well by changing his learning goals. Instead of learning everything the class is learning, he can have one or 2 of those learning objectives. For example, maybe the class has to remember all 50 states and their capitols. Maybe he just has to remember that there are 50 states, and know the name and capitol of his own state. Or be able to complete a puzzle by putting all 50 states in the right place. Think about what the obstacles are to his doing what the others are doing. Is it the content? Is it the method of instruction? Is it format of the assignment? When you figure out what the obstacles are, then figure out what accommodations or modifications need to be in place to eliminate those obstacles. There should be someone at the school that has experience in adjusting curriculum and assignments to kids with special needs. Michele W Aubrie's mom 9 yrs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 can you get it into his IEP that he doesn't have to write it in " full or complete sentences " ? and also is there a way to set up " homework time " at school after class hours or possibly sometime during the day where an aide or intervenor or even interpreter comes and sits with him and does it, therefore preventing you from repeating grade 4? just my thoughts. Cole p.s. i'm not suggesting the aide or interpreter or intervenor (or even you) do the work for him, i'm suggesting that they ask him the questions verbally (or in sign) on a language register he can understand and let him give the answer and then write it for him... yes it will take a little longer... but maybe not if he doesn't have to agonize to understand the question... does that make sense? > > they make the notes for him in large text the exact info they go over in > sign, verbally and visually--but he cannot cognitivelly read the words. > thanks for the input hope your school is going well. > > maria > Re: homework > > off of the top of my head here are a couple, others will be more helpfulll > > a. intervenor in class to take notes make sure he hears and sees the > information > b. text size? make it easier to read > c. how is the material being taught? is it being taught in a way that he > can > understand the material? > > I dunno what elce to suggest sorry im trying to finish my good copy of my > homework at the school computer lab as I have no working computer sorry > > Take care! > > Chantelle > > On 29/05/07, PATRICK HALLORAN kannew@... > > wrote: > > > > hi all, I need to ask those of you who have older kids or anyone who has > > any ideas about homework. > > > > it is really becoming a pain in the a@# to do social studies and > > science. he cannot read it--he is at a first grade reading level--maybe, > > and doing 4-5th grade social studies and science. which is wonderful, > but he > > cannot read the info and then he comes home with pages of questions to > be > > answered about what they are talking about and they need to be in > complete > > --full sentences and guess who writes them? I did 4/5 grade > > already. basically, I am doing his work. I try to make him read the > > sentences--the answers--1/2 of it he has no clue what it says and for > him to > > write it or even type it, a half hours homework would be hours. > > > > I know it will only get worse as he goes on--it's not that I don't want > to > > help him, but even the math I write the answers. any suggestions? > > > > thanks, > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 , This is ridiculous that they are sending home work he cannot read. First, that should be addressed, the reading part, because if they want him to do higher level work, the reading level and comprehension should be higher. That is what they did with , but they keep the reading level and the work the same. His teacher (Gates) condenses the textbook and summarizes. They go over it in class using signs, manipulatives etc. and relative activities. If I were you, I would totally be addressing the reading situation before anything. I would call a meeting with his team and really address it before he falls more behind. Last year it was " noticed " that wasn't comprehending more complex sentences due to many different problems. They should be addressing this (the Speech Therapist). You have a bigger problem than just homework, and it sounds similar to what happened to . I was thankful his Speech Therapist identified the problem areas and has worked on it this year, now we see much improvement. Debbie homework hi all, I need to ask those of you who have older kids or anyone who has any ideas about homework. it is really becoming a pain in the a@# to do social studies and science. he cannot read it--he is at a first grade reading level--maybe, and doing 4-5th grade social studies and science. which is wonderful, but he cannot read the info and then he comes home with pages of questions to be answered about what they are talking about and they need to be in complete --full sentences and guess who writes them? I did 4/5 grade already. basically, I am doing his work. I try to make him read the sentences--the answers--1/2 of it he has no clue what it says and for him to write it or even type it, a half hours homework would be hours. I know it will only get worse as he goes on--it's not that I don't want to help him, but even the math I write the answers. any suggestions? thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 let's see if I can expalin this--they do condense the info and print it out for him--he knows it once he hears it/sees it enough the lessons are usually 2-3 weeks. the aide reads it for him for tests and writes it--the longer stuff. he is smart enough to " get it " once he's learned it, but the reading level is not there. for instance a few weeks ago they learned photosynthesis--he can't say it never mind read it, but by the end of the unit after we drilled the steps into his head he could put them in order--because he memorized them, but could not read them or pronounce 1/2 the words. he is in a reading group on his own, but nowhere near the info he is learning in ss or science. they are looking into assistive devices for him too. but like I said before even if we were to type his answers it would still take forever. his science came home the other day 2/ 2 page papers both 100% but with notes to tell mom more detailed and complete sentences to write!!! I'm frustrated with this and if I am I'm sure he is too! thanks for all the advice I'm going to look into it more. *I homework hi all, I need to ask those of you who have older kids or anyone who has any ideas about homework. it is really becoming a pain in the a@# to do social studies and science. he cannot read it--he is at a first grade reading level--maybe, and doing 4-5th grade social studies and science. which is wonderful, but he cannot read the info and then he comes home with pages of questions to be answered about what they are talking about and they need to be in complete --full sentences and guess who writes them? I did 4/5 grade already. basically, I am doing his work. I try to make him read the sentences--the answers--1/2 of it he has no clue what it says and for him to write it or even type it, a half hours homework would be hours. I know it will only get worse as he goes on--it's not that I don't want to help him, but even the math I write the answers. any suggestions? thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 let's see if I can expalin this--they do condense the info and print it out for him--he knows it once he hears it/sees it enough the lessons are usually 2-3 weeks. the aide reads it for him for tests and writes it--the longer stuff. he is smart enough to " get it " once he's learned it, but the reading level is not there. for instance a few weeks ago they learned photosynthesis--he can't say it never mind read it, but by the end of the unit after we drilled the steps into his head he could put them in order--because he memorized them, but could not read them or pronounce 1/2 the words. he is in a reading group on his own, but nowhere near the info he is learning in ss or science. they are looking into assistive devices for him too. but like I said before even if we were to type his answers it would still take forever. his science came home the other day 2/ 2 page papers both 100% but with notes to tell mom more detailed and complete sentences to write!!! I'm frustrated with this and if I am I'm sure he is too! thanks for all the advice I'm going to look into it more. *I homework hi all, I need to ask those of you who have older kids or anyone who has any ideas about homework. it is really becoming a pain in the a@# to do social studies and science. he cannot read it--he is at a first grade reading level--maybe, and doing 4-5th grade social studies and science. which is wonderful, but he cannot read the info and then he comes home with pages of questions to be answered about what they are talking about and they need to be in complete --full sentences and guess who writes them? I did 4/5 grade already. basically, I am doing his work. I try to make him read the sentences--the answers--1/2 of it he has no clue what it says and for him to write it or even type it, a half hours homework would be hours. I know it will only get worse as he goes on--it's not that I don't want to help him, but even the math I write the answers. any suggestions? thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 let's see if I can expalin this--they do condense the info and print it out for him--he knows it once he hears it/sees it enough the lessons are usually 2-3 weeks. the aide reads it for him for tests and writes it--the longer stuff. he is smart enough to " get it " once he's learned it, but the reading level is not there. for instance a few weeks ago they learned photosynthesis--he can't say it never mind read it, but by the end of the unit after we drilled the steps into his head he could put them in order--because he memorized them, but could not read them or pronounce 1/2 the words. he is in a reading group on his own, but nowhere near the info he is learning in ss or science. they are looking into assistive devices for him too. but like I said before even if we were to type his answers it would still take forever. his science came home the other day 2/ 2 page papers both 100% but with notes to tell mom more detailed and complete sentences to write!!! I'm frustrated with this and if I am I'm sure he is too! thanks for all the advice I'm going to look into it more. *I homework hi all, I need to ask those of you who have older kids or anyone who has any ideas about homework. it is really becoming a pain in the a@# to do social studies and science. he cannot read it--he is at a first grade reading level--maybe, and doing 4-5th grade social studies and science. which is wonderful, but he cannot read the info and then he comes home with pages of questions to be answered about what they are talking about and they need to be in complete --full sentences and guess who writes them? I did 4/5 grade already. basically, I am doing his work. I try to make him read the sentences--the answers--1/2 of it he has no clue what it says and for him to write it or even type it, a half hours homework would be hours. I know it will only get worse as he goes on--it's not that I don't want to help him, but even the math I write the answers. any suggestions? thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 It appears they aren't differentiating their instruction enough. You can differentiate the process AND the product. It sounds like they are trying with the process but are not doing as well with the product (what Tim gives THEM to show his understanding). I would have this put into his SEP (or IEP I think you guys call it) - alternate answers (such as suggested) that are more commensurate with Tim's current level. You shouldn't be doing it - I battle with this for Kennedy as well and it is a struggle to have some teachers " get it " . Good luck ... Lis > > let's see if I can expalin this--they do condense the info and print it > out for him--he knows it once he hears it/sees it enough the lessons are > usually 2-3 weeks. the aide reads it for him for tests and writes it--the > longer stuff. he is smart enough to " get it " once he's learned it, but the > reading level is not there. for instance a few weeks ago they learned > photosynthesis--he can't say it never mind read it, but by the end of the > unit after we drilled the steps into his head he could put them in > order--because he memorized them, but could not read them or pronounce 1/2 > the words. he is in a reading group on his own, but nowhere near the info he > is learning in ss or science. > > they are looking into assistive devices for him too. but like I said > before even if we were to type his answers it would still take forever. his > science came home the other day 2/ 2 page papers both 100% but with notes to > tell mom more detailed and complete sentences to write!!! > I'm frustrated with this and if I am I'm sure he is too! > > thanks for all the advice I'm going to look into it more. > > > *I homework > > hi all, I need to ask those of you who have older kids or anyone who has > any > ideas about homework. > > it is really becoming a pain in the a@# to do social studies and science. > he > cannot read it--he is at a first grade reading level--maybe, and doing > 4-5th > grade social studies and science. which is wonderful, but he cannot read > the > info and then he comes home with pages of questions to be answered about > what they are talking about and they need to be in complete --full > sentences > and guess who writes them? I did 4/5 grade already. basically, I am doing > his work. I try to make him read the sentences--the answers--1/2 of it he > has no clue what it says and for him to write it or even type it, a half > hours homework would be hours. > > I know it will only get worse as he goes on--it's not that I don't want to > help him, but even the math I write the answers. any suggestions? > > thanks, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 It appears they aren't differentiating their instruction enough. You can differentiate the process AND the product. It sounds like they are trying with the process but are not doing as well with the product (what Tim gives THEM to show his understanding). I would have this put into his SEP (or IEP I think you guys call it) - alternate answers (such as suggested) that are more commensurate with Tim's current level. You shouldn't be doing it - I battle with this for Kennedy as well and it is a struggle to have some teachers " get it " . Good luck ... Lis > > let's see if I can expalin this--they do condense the info and print it > out for him--he knows it once he hears it/sees it enough the lessons are > usually 2-3 weeks. the aide reads it for him for tests and writes it--the > longer stuff. he is smart enough to " get it " once he's learned it, but the > reading level is not there. for instance a few weeks ago they learned > photosynthesis--he can't say it never mind read it, but by the end of the > unit after we drilled the steps into his head he could put them in > order--because he memorized them, but could not read them or pronounce 1/2 > the words. he is in a reading group on his own, but nowhere near the info he > is learning in ss or science. > > they are looking into assistive devices for him too. but like I said > before even if we were to type his answers it would still take forever. his > science came home the other day 2/ 2 page papers both 100% but with notes to > tell mom more detailed and complete sentences to write!!! > I'm frustrated with this and if I am I'm sure he is too! > > thanks for all the advice I'm going to look into it more. > > > *I homework > > hi all, I need to ask those of you who have older kids or anyone who has > any > ideas about homework. > > it is really becoming a pain in the a@# to do social studies and science. > he > cannot read it--he is at a first grade reading level--maybe, and doing > 4-5th > grade social studies and science. which is wonderful, but he cannot read > the > info and then he comes home with pages of questions to be answered about > what they are talking about and they need to be in complete --full > sentences > and guess who writes them? I did 4/5 grade already. basically, I am doing > his work. I try to make him read the sentences--the answers--1/2 of it he > has no clue what it says and for him to write it or even type it, a half > hours homework would be hours. > > I know it will only get worse as he goes on--it's not that I don't want to > help him, but even the math I write the answers. any suggestions? > > thanks, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 It appears they aren't differentiating their instruction enough. You can differentiate the process AND the product. It sounds like they are trying with the process but are not doing as well with the product (what Tim gives THEM to show his understanding). I would have this put into his SEP (or IEP I think you guys call it) - alternate answers (such as suggested) that are more commensurate with Tim's current level. You shouldn't be doing it - I battle with this for Kennedy as well and it is a struggle to have some teachers " get it " . Good luck ... Lis > > let's see if I can expalin this--they do condense the info and print it > out for him--he knows it once he hears it/sees it enough the lessons are > usually 2-3 weeks. the aide reads it for him for tests and writes it--the > longer stuff. he is smart enough to " get it " once he's learned it, but the > reading level is not there. for instance a few weeks ago they learned > photosynthesis--he can't say it never mind read it, but by the end of the > unit after we drilled the steps into his head he could put them in > order--because he memorized them, but could not read them or pronounce 1/2 > the words. he is in a reading group on his own, but nowhere near the info he > is learning in ss or science. > > they are looking into assistive devices for him too. but like I said > before even if we were to type his answers it would still take forever. his > science came home the other day 2/ 2 page papers both 100% but with notes to > tell mom more detailed and complete sentences to write!!! > I'm frustrated with this and if I am I'm sure he is too! > > thanks for all the advice I'm going to look into it more. > > > *I homework > > hi all, I need to ask those of you who have older kids or anyone who has > any > ideas about homework. > > it is really becoming a pain in the a@# to do social studies and science. > he > cannot read it--he is at a first grade reading level--maybe, and doing > 4-5th > grade social studies and science. which is wonderful, but he cannot read > the > info and then he comes home with pages of questions to be answered about > what they are talking about and they need to be in complete --full > sentences > and guess who writes them? I did 4/5 grade already. basically, I am doing > his work. I try to make him read the sentences--the answers--1/2 of it he > has no clue what it says and for him to write it or even type it, a half > hours homework would be hours. > > I know it will only get worse as he goes on--it's not that I don't want to > help him, but even the math I write the answers. any suggestions? > > thanks, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 it is such a pain--one day, I shit you not (excuse my french) he had 4 pages of math a review 2 pgs mult. 2 pages division atleast 15 problems a page probably closer to 25. 2 pages of science maybe 10 ? to be answred in full sentences, reading which was fill in the blank --sentences right from the book he was reading maybe a 10 pg book 2-3 sentences per page. but I swear he could not get the concept. the sentence was right there what word is missing? coulod not do w/o me telling him or reading it 4-5 times. plus 2 pages of social studies--fill in the blank or answer the sentence either way a pain. it must of taken us 2 hours and we didn't even do all the math. the math was for a test--at that point you either know it or you don't!! I am lucky keegan and liam don't have much yet and both are very independant and good about doing it. I wrote a note to the teacher and said something needs to be done. we'll see what she says maria Re: homework , I so know what you are talking about. I hated, hated homework time and if I did then Patty did twice as much. Just sitting still for more than 15 to 20 minutes at a time was a killer for her. And that's after a full day of school. What helped the most was I wrote a list of her homework and when she finished one she'd cross that baby off. We also had planned breaks, I had her chew gum, and I basically just prayed we'd end. The fatigue for our kids is huge too. It takes tons of energy listening to the teacher, read the information, figure out what the information really is about and then coming to some sort of understanding or conclusion and THEN to go home, remember all of that and then to put it down on paper was just ridiculous. Oh yea, and first that has to have some sort of meaningful organization about the topic or task. UGH. So, we had Patty do less work ( mostly half) but stay within the curriculum. Although there were some things I thought were useless we still did them as they helped Patty's learning strategies develop further. But math, oh gosh. Instead of doing 50 problems we did 25. Instead of doing mental math she learned how to use a calculator. As for science and social studies and language arts there are many things to do but I feel the one that works the best is to have the papers scanned and when you put it on your computer he can fill in the answers right there and then. If you have Kurzwiel you can also have it read to him. There's tons you can do with technology. Oh, and writing by hand was a killer too. It took tons of focus just to get her print between the lines and legible enough to then go back and read what she wrote. She worked so hard on the physical process of the activity that she lost the product of it. There were just to many things going on to easily do homework. I also let the teachers know about the physical/disability with homework. They too came up with different strategies. Remember, great stress is just an overload for many of our kids. Once she reached that point there was little to no meaningful work to be done. Thank goodness we lived through that time. I have to honestly add that my parents felt the same about me and my homework. My siblings just sat and did their work. Oh I got so bored I'd daydream, sneak out, or just do as little as possible. We must remember our children struggle to do things that come easily to others but we must also remember that not all of it is CHARGE. Some of it is ? genetics? My mother always used to say she wished I had a child like me. Hmmm. When all else fails, run and hide! Bonnie, Mom to Kris 24, Patty CHARGE 22, and wife to ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 it is such a pain--one day, I shit you not (excuse my french) he had 4 pages of math a review 2 pgs mult. 2 pages division atleast 15 problems a page probably closer to 25. 2 pages of science maybe 10 ? to be answred in full sentences, reading which was fill in the blank --sentences right from the book he was reading maybe a 10 pg book 2-3 sentences per page. but I swear he could not get the concept. the sentence was right there what word is missing? coulod not do w/o me telling him or reading it 4-5 times. plus 2 pages of social studies--fill in the blank or answer the sentence either way a pain. it must of taken us 2 hours and we didn't even do all the math. the math was for a test--at that point you either know it or you don't!! I am lucky keegan and liam don't have much yet and both are very independant and good about doing it. I wrote a note to the teacher and said something needs to be done. we'll see what she says maria Re: homework , I so know what you are talking about. I hated, hated homework time and if I did then Patty did twice as much. Just sitting still for more than 15 to 20 minutes at a time was a killer for her. And that's after a full day of school. What helped the most was I wrote a list of her homework and when she finished one she'd cross that baby off. We also had planned breaks, I had her chew gum, and I basically just prayed we'd end. The fatigue for our kids is huge too. It takes tons of energy listening to the teacher, read the information, figure out what the information really is about and then coming to some sort of understanding or conclusion and THEN to go home, remember all of that and then to put it down on paper was just ridiculous. Oh yea, and first that has to have some sort of meaningful organization about the topic or task. UGH. So, we had Patty do less work ( mostly half) but stay within the curriculum. Although there were some things I thought were useless we still did them as they helped Patty's learning strategies develop further. But math, oh gosh. Instead of doing 50 problems we did 25. Instead of doing mental math she learned how to use a calculator. As for science and social studies and language arts there are many things to do but I feel the one that works the best is to have the papers scanned and when you put it on your computer he can fill in the answers right there and then. If you have Kurzwiel you can also have it read to him. There's tons you can do with technology. Oh, and writing by hand was a killer too. It took tons of focus just to get her print between the lines and legible enough to then go back and read what she wrote. She worked so hard on the physical process of the activity that she lost the product of it. There were just to many things going on to easily do homework. I also let the teachers know about the physical/disability with homework. They too came up with different strategies. Remember, great stress is just an overload for many of our kids. Once she reached that point there was little to no meaningful work to be done. Thank goodness we lived through that time. I have to honestly add that my parents felt the same about me and my homework. My siblings just sat and did their work. Oh I got so bored I'd daydream, sneak out, or just do as little as possible. We must remember our children struggle to do things that come easily to others but we must also remember that not all of it is CHARGE. Some of it is ? genetics? My mother always used to say she wished I had a child like me. Hmmm. When all else fails, run and hide! Bonnie, Mom to Kris 24, Patty CHARGE 22, and wife to ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 oh gosh - the only thing I want to add (sadly) is that has the stamina to end all time. He had homework as you describe. Before he was mainstreamed, he was at the highest functioning level of all subjects in the special DHH (4-6th grade) Class. The teacher admitted to me that she never thought about having the highest load in all areas, but she was just too overwhelmed to change it. couldn't stand to not finish it, so most of fourth-sixth grade was spent doing homework - I kid you not - from the time he got home at 3:30 until often 11 at night. Sometimes, would be happily putting something away at 10:45 at night, and would tell me what he still had remaining to do. I would get a book and sit with him. When I told the teacher, she was shocked - she would have gone to bed and let him finish himself. (most agonizing was pages of long division, until we were practicing our tired mistakes repeatedly - and then correcting them... all on his own) When was mainstreamed in sixth grade he had one of THE most labor intensive strict teachers I have yet to know - so the homework load was only greater. Since then he has always taken an academically heavy load (in this year, his senior at high school, he has three AP classes and one Honors class (Anatomy and Physiology)) - so homework is still an endurance run for him. He never complains, he never stops. That is not to say he isn't fatigued, after a day with the back brace, the FM system and the interpreters (not to mention teen angst). That's not to say that writing isn't still tiring for him and massively effortful. That is not to say that math isn't still very time consuming for him. But he perseveres beyond anything I can describe. I often wonder about his incredible willingness to do whatever it takes - whether it's wearing this full back brace or his schoolwork. Is it somehow related to all the things he did not have autonomy on as a developing child? all the painful medical procedures? the well intended and torturous therapies? the never developed right to choice - be it food or be it having full time well-intended health aides until you're eleven? His boundaries are generously drawn - part nature and part circumstance I guess..... If I had it all over to do again I would definitely have spoken up until things changed for him in 4th and 5th grade, But he is our first, and I really gave the situation the benefit of the doubt.. and never complained (but boy is he angry about it now! Just ask him, and he'll tell you!) Best- Yuka Re: homework it is such a pain--one day, I shit you not (excuse my french) he had 4 pages of math a review 2 pgs mult. 2 pages division atleast 15 problems a page probably closer to 25. 2 pages of science maybe 10 ? to be answred in full sentences, reading which was fill in the blank --sentences right from the book he was reading maybe a 10 pg book 2-3 sentences per page. but I swear he could not get the concept. the sentence was right there what word is missing? coulod not do w/o me telling him or reading it 4-5 times. plus 2 pages of social studies--fill in the blank or answer the sentence either way a pain. it must of taken us 2 hours and we didn't even do all the math. the math was for a test--at that point you either know it or you don't!! I am lucky keegan and liam don't have much yet and both are very independant and good about doing it. I wrote a note to the teacher and said something needs to be done. we'll see what she says maria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 oh gosh - the only thing I want to add (sadly) is that has the stamina to end all time. He had homework as you describe. Before he was mainstreamed, he was at the highest functioning level of all subjects in the special DHH (4-6th grade) Class. The teacher admitted to me that she never thought about having the highest load in all areas, but she was just too overwhelmed to change it. couldn't stand to not finish it, so most of fourth-sixth grade was spent doing homework - I kid you not - from the time he got home at 3:30 until often 11 at night. Sometimes, would be happily putting something away at 10:45 at night, and would tell me what he still had remaining to do. I would get a book and sit with him. When I told the teacher, she was shocked - she would have gone to bed and let him finish himself. (most agonizing was pages of long division, until we were practicing our tired mistakes repeatedly - and then correcting them... all on his own) When was mainstreamed in sixth grade he had one of THE most labor intensive strict teachers I have yet to know - so the homework load was only greater. Since then he has always taken an academically heavy load (in this year, his senior at high school, he has three AP classes and one Honors class (Anatomy and Physiology)) - so homework is still an endurance run for him. He never complains, he never stops. That is not to say he isn't fatigued, after a day with the back brace, the FM system and the interpreters (not to mention teen angst). That's not to say that writing isn't still tiring for him and massively effortful. That is not to say that math isn't still very time consuming for him. But he perseveres beyond anything I can describe. I often wonder about his incredible willingness to do whatever it takes - whether it's wearing this full back brace or his schoolwork. Is it somehow related to all the things he did not have autonomy on as a developing child? all the painful medical procedures? the well intended and torturous therapies? the never developed right to choice - be it food or be it having full time well-intended health aides until you're eleven? His boundaries are generously drawn - part nature and part circumstance I guess..... If I had it all over to do again I would definitely have spoken up until things changed for him in 4th and 5th grade, But he is our first, and I really gave the situation the benefit of the doubt.. and never complained (but boy is he angry about it now! Just ask him, and he'll tell you!) Best- Yuka Re: homework it is such a pain--one day, I shit you not (excuse my french) he had 4 pages of math a review 2 pgs mult. 2 pages division atleast 15 problems a page probably closer to 25. 2 pages of science maybe 10 ? to be answred in full sentences, reading which was fill in the blank --sentences right from the book he was reading maybe a 10 pg book 2-3 sentences per page. but I swear he could not get the concept. the sentence was right there what word is missing? coulod not do w/o me telling him or reading it 4-5 times. plus 2 pages of social studies--fill in the blank or answer the sentence either way a pain. it must of taken us 2 hours and we didn't even do all the math. the math was for a test--at that point you either know it or you don't!! I am lucky keegan and liam don't have much yet and both are very independant and good about doing it. I wrote a note to the teacher and said something needs to be done. we'll see what she says maria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 maria, i could not do this much homework!!! Do let us know what the teacher says--that work load is ridiculous for a little kid!!! ( in my opinion...) pam Re: homework it is such a pain--one day, I shit you not (excuse my french) he had 4 pages of math a review 2 pgs mult. 2 pages division atleast 15 problems a page probably closer to 25. 2 pages of science maybe 10 ? to be answred in full sentences, reading which was fill in the blank --sentences right from the book he was reading maybe a 10 pg book 2-3 sentences per page. but I swear he could not get the concept. the sentence was right there what word is missing? coulod not do w/o me telling him or reading it 4-5 times. plus 2 pages of social studies--fill in the blank or answer the sentence either way a pain. it must of taken us 2 hours and we didn't even do all the math. the math was for a test--at that point you either know it or you don't!! I am lucky keegan and liam don't have much yet and both are very independant and good about doing it. I wrote a note to the teacher and said something needs to be done. we'll see what she says maria Re: homework , I so know what you are talking about. I hated, hated homework time and if I did then Patty did twice as much. Just sitting still for more than 15 to 20 minutes at a time was a killer for her. And that's after a full day of school. What helped the most was I wrote a list of her homework and when she finished one she'd cross that baby off. We also had planned breaks, I had her chew gum, and I basically just prayed we'd end. The fatigue for our kids is huge too. It takes tons of energy listening to the teacher, read the information, figure out what the information really is about and then coming to some sort of understanding or conclusion and THEN to go home, remember all of that and then to put it down on paper was just ridiculous. Oh yea, and first that has to have some sort of meaningful organization about the topic or task. UGH. So, we had Patty do less work ( mostly half) but stay within the curriculum. Although there were some things I thought were useless we still did them as they helped Patty's learning strategies develop further. But math, oh gosh. Instead of doing 50 problems we did 25. Instead of doing mental math she learned how to use a calculator. As for science and social studies and language arts there are many things to do but I feel the one that works the best is to have the papers scanned and when you put it on your computer he can fill in the answers right there and then. If you have Kurzwiel you can also have it read to him. There's tons you can do with technology. Oh, and writing by hand was a killer too. It took tons of focus just to get her print between the lines and legible enough to then go back and read what she wrote. She worked so hard on the physical process of the activity that she lost the product of it. There were just to many things going on to easily do homework. I also let the teachers know about the physical/disability with homework. They too came up with different strategies. Remember, great stress is just an overload for many of our kids. Once she reached that point there was little to no meaningful work to be done. Thank goodness we lived through that time. I have to honestly add that my parents felt the same about me and my homework. My siblings just sat and did their work. Oh I got so bored I'd daydream, sneak out, or just do as little as possible. We must remember our children struggle to do things that come easily to others but we must also remember that not all of it is CHARGE. Some of it is ? genetics? My mother always used to say she wished I had a child like me. Hmmm. When all else fails, run and hide! Bonnie, Mom to Kris 24, Patty CHARGE 22, and wife to ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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