Guest guest Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 nafoel wrote: > Curious to know if any of you have eczema? Also do you correlate it > to hypo or adrenal? And how have you managed it? > > Naffy, I have eczema. Caused by allergies (mainly iodine). I manage it with antihistamines dose and type dependent on the stage the skin reaction is in, and by avoiding my food allergy substances as much as humanly possible. There isn't enough antihistamine on the planet to allow me to eat things I'm allergic to and not suffer eczema/hives. So avoidance and antihistamines go hand in hand. If you will go back and re-read my posts from when you had hives, you will get a better idea of how I handle it. But in case I didn't say back then, my skin reactions to allergens started with hives, and eventually went into eczema. The hives were intolerable. The eczema was worse. Hives itch intolerably. Eczema itches intolerably along with incredible pain, for me at least. I do believe allergies are related to adrenals/cortisol. So I'm experimenting to see if there is a dose of HC that will eliminate my allergies. First I raised HC until I got to stable temps, then raised so I could tolerate thyroid (which I could not do very well at the dose where my temps first went stable), then I raised to where my BP rose from laying down to standing. Now I'm experimenting to see if the allergies will go into remission at any dose of HC. sol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 Hi-my daughter gets eczema when she eats wheat and corn products. Sugar doesn't help either. > > > Curious to know if any of you have eczema? Also do you > correlate it > > > to hypo or adrenal? And how have you managed it? > > > > > > > > Naffy, > > I have eczema. Caused by allergies (mainly iodine). I manage it > with > > antihistamines dose and type dependent on the stage the skin > reaction is > > in, and by avoiding my food allergy substances as much as humanly > > possible. There isn't enough antihistamine on the planet to allow > me to > > eat things I'm allergic to and not suffer eczema/hives. So > avoidance and > > antihistamines go hand in hand. If you will go back and re-read > my > > posts from when you had hives, you will get a better idea of how I > > handle it. But in case I didn't say back then, my skin reactions > to > > allergens started with hives, and eventually went into eczema. The > hives > > were intolerable. The eczema was worse. Hives itch intolerably. > Eczema > > itches intolerably along with incredible pain, for me at least. > > I do believe allergies are related to adrenals/cortisol. So I'm > > experimenting to see if there is a dose of HC that will eliminate > my > > allergies. First I raised HC until I got to stable temps, then > raised so > > I could tolerate thyroid (which I could not do very well at the > dose > > where my temps first went stable), then I raised to where my BP > rose > > from laying down to standing. Now I'm experimenting to see if the > > allergies will go into remission at any dose of HC. > > sol > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 Oh Pat, I do feel for your daughter. And I know how worried you must be as well. My daughter is 24 and is about fed up hearing about 'thyroid/adrenals " . I'm just trying to spare her what I have gone through, but they are young, and don't want to be taking pills or thinking of health At Christmas I broke out in hives for the first time in my life. I'm 55 and I have never been allergic to ANYTHING in my life. I know people say you can become allergic at any time in life, but I don't buy into that. I am sure it is a 'dysfunction' of something 'within' and that is what I set out to investigate. From all my reading on hives/allergies, I kept going back to the articles where one common factor had always been addressed....the gut. Even ancient doctors in the times of socrates etc. would say 'all disease begins in the digestive tract " so I kept digging and digging for answers. Unfortunately I DO NOT save links so I can't refer you to any, but suffice to say, MANY MANY articles I read would mention either 'leaky gut syndrome' or digestive issues. I finally went to see a naturopath and he did some studies on me, and did confirm digestive issues and started a VERY MILD detox---since I am on Cytomel and HC, I was not interested in FURTHER STRESSING my body, so he first had me do a whole foods diet for one month, where whenever possible I was to eat foods with enzymes in them,,,,which basically is anything that is not processed. I would eat fresh fruits all morning.....steamed veggies at noon .....and a light protein fish or chicken with steamed veggies at night. I also drank the juice of one lemon is a glass of water twice a day. I cannot tell you how CLEAN that made me feel....the whites of my eyes got whiter, I started losing weight....I felt GREAT. He also had me take two herbs daily...one was artemesia and the other goto kula. Now I am only on artemesia and he has added Chlorophyl to the mix. I also take probiotics and digestive enzymes when I am going to eat something processed. If you eat WHOLE FOODS which have not been touched my man, you get the digestive enzymes you need and do not need to supplement. I am sure your dd, like mine, probaby eats a lot of processed food....then the body cannot process it due to its lack of enzymes....it sits in the stomach, undigested then leaks into the blood system thru leaky gut. Then the body reads this as 'FOREIGN' and begins its attack....thus hives, eczema and any other skin reactions which are termed 'allergic'. The only thing allergic about it, is that the body is reacting to something foreign...not BAD...but foreign. It is more autoimune than anything in my opinion. I have to say here....this is my own personal theory. My allergist DOES NOT BUY INTO THIS THEORY AT ALL....of course....and wants me and my daughter to have allergy shots. I understand that whilst you are in the midst of an attack and itching like crazy, you certainly don't want to wait for a whole food diet or detox to work....this is PREVENTIVE only. For now, what worked for me during my attack, was Atarax and Zantac together. For one whole week, I took ALL OF THE OTC ANTIHISTAMINES and NONE WORKED. On day 8 or 9 I added in the Zantac and bam.....releif!!! I was in ER twice with cortisone shots and the whole works and nothing worked. I moved into a hotel, thinking something in my home was killing me. It was the worst experience in my life....it lasted 2 weeks and I was covered from head to toe. I looked like a freak....I cried daily. I NEVER want to go through that again, so I am really cleaning up my act. My dd does not suffer thank God. Her exzema does not itch nor hurt. She is worried 'aesthetically' because they leave marks on her body and now they have started on her neck/face. Well, I've rambled enough. I do hope your dd can find fast releif and then start taking good care of herself. Tell her not to scratch as they can become infected. Warm epsom baths help somewhat as they detox. Let her know whatever toxic inside her body is screaming to come out....and that hypoT does not allow us to detox well. Maybe she'll reconsider addressing her thyroid situation. Hope this helps. Take care Pat, Naffy In NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS , " pat " wrote: > > I hope I can butt in here as I really need some help this morning. What a blessing that I saved these posts on hives. My 26 year old daughter came downstairs this morning begging me to make a doctor's appointment and showed me her lower legs where she has scratched them bloody. She has adrenal and thyroid issues big time,but keeps going and is in denial about the root causes of feeling unwell much of the time. > > Please would someone post a remedy for relief, then give details she can follow to clean up her diet, etc. and really give a convincing testimony. I would appreciate it so much. She has never taken time to look at this forum or even understand the endocrine system, so this makes for a difficult case. > > Thank you so much, > > Pat > > > ....thank God. I > have diligently been working on cleaning up my diet, and detoxing my > liver, and I do beleive that has helped a lot. > > My daugther is the one with eczema however. She optimized on t3 and > completely weaned off the HC and had been doing really well, but now > is having trouble with eczema breakouts again. Hers do not itch nor > are they painful. She had them before the t3 and HC, but now > they're back. They are more of a nuisance than anything, and now > that they are in the face area, she is uncomfortable as to how she > looks, understandably so. > > I'm wondering if supplemental adrenal support would work, instead of > actually going BACK on HC? > > Naffy > > > > > Curious to know if any of you have eczema? Also do you > correlate it > > > to hypo or adrenal? And how have you managed it? > > > > > > > > Naffy, > > I have eczema. Caused by allergies (mainly iodine). I manage it > with > > antihistamines dose and type dependent on the stage the skin > reaction is > > in, and by avoiding my food allergy substances as much as humanly > > possible. There isn't enough antihistamine on the planet to allow > me to > > eat things I'm allergic to and not suffer eczema/hives. So > avoidance and > > antihistamines go hand in hand. If you will go back and re- read > my > > posts from when you had hives, you will get a better idea of how I > > handle it. But in case I didn't say back then, my skin reactions > to > > allergens started with hives, and eventually went into eczema. The > hives > > were intolerable. The eczema was worse. Hives itch intolerably. > Eczema > > itches intolerably along with incredible pain, for me at least. > > I do believe allergies are related to adrenals/cortisol. So I'm > > experimenting to see if there is a dose of HC that will eliminate > my > > allergies. First I raised HC until I got to stable temps, then > raised so > > I could tolerate thyroid (which I could not do very well at the > dose > > where my temps first went stable), then I raised to where my BP > rose > > from laying down to standing. Now I'm experimenting to see if the > > allergies will go into remission at any dose of HC. > > sol > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.3/1307 - Release Date: 3/2/2008 3:59 PM > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 Pat....I did find this link which might be helpful for your daughter to read http://www.thedoctorwithin.com/index_fr.php? page=articles/allergies_reactivity.php I consulted with this dr. once over the phone. He's very , umm, let's say " intense' and his articles are a bit offensive. But he is passionate about his beliefs, and I do feel he is on the right track. Of course, credibility walks out the door, when you are then asked to buy into his 'products', But I didn't buy anything....and am doing my own cleanup. I feel what he has to say is important.....hope it helps you with your daughter. Naffy > > > > Curious to know if any of you have eczema? Also do you > > correlate it > > > > to hypo or adrenal? And how have you managed it? > > > > > > > > > > > Naffy, > > > I have eczema. Caused by allergies (mainly iodine). I manage > it > > with > > > antihistamines dose and type dependent on the stage the skin > > reaction is > > > in, and by avoiding my food allergy substances as much as > humanly > > > possible. There isn't enough antihistamine on the planet to > allow > > me to > > > eat things I'm allergic to and not suffer eczema/hives. So > > avoidance and > > > antihistamines go hand in hand. If you will go back and re- > read > > my > > > posts from when you had hives, you will get a better idea of > how I > > > handle it. But in case I didn't say back then, my skin > reactions > > to > > > allergens started with hives, and eventually went into eczema. > The > > hives > > > were intolerable. The eczema was worse. Hives itch > intolerably. > > Eczema > > > itches intolerably along with incredible pain, for me at least. > > > I do believe allergies are related to adrenals/cortisol. So > I'm > > > experimenting to see if there is a dose of HC that will > eliminate > > my > > > allergies. First I raised HC until I got to stable temps, then > > raised so > > > I could tolerate thyroid (which I could not do very well at > the > > dose > > > where my temps first went stable), then I raised to where my > BP > > rose > > > from laying down to standing. Now I'm experimenting to see if > the > > > allergies will go into remission at any dose of HC. > > > sol > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- -- > ----------- > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.3/1307 - Release Date: > 3/2/2008 3:59 PM > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 I have found taking lots of Omega 3 suppliments helps my skin a lot, besides what the Armour does. It is also helping my brain. I'm thinking clearer. But not to the point where I've been able to cut the AD's. But I'm using those to cope with the sleep deprivation from my sleep apnea. Hensley <>< 8-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 I'd love some advice on this as well. Flax seed is a big no- no right? As is Evening Primrose? What's left? > > > > I have found taking lots of Omega 3 suppliments helps my skin a > lot, besides what the Armour does. > > > > It is also helping my brain. I'm thinking clearer. But not to the > point where I've been able to cut the AD's. But I'm using those to > cope with the sleep deprivation from my sleep apnea. > > > > Hensley <>< 8-) > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 I have had problems in the past with Dyshidrosis Eczema (blisters all over my hands). For a long time the only treatment was steroids. Then my primary doctor had me try Singulair and it worked. I had tried antihistimes before with no success at at, but since Sinuglir works differently, I thought it was worth a shot. I figured it was better than prednisone. Anyway I took it for at least a year and once the breakouts cleared up I didn't have any more come up. One of the problems with it is the skin is so sensitive when it is new that it keeps breaking out. I don't take it regularly anymore, just if I notice a breakout about to happen, but that has been awhile. This may not be helpful with your dd, but I thought I'd mention it. here's a link if you want ot see what it looks like. Rie A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright > Thank you sol for replying. I do remember you helping me when I had > the horrific outbreak of hives at Christmas. Fortunately that > finally went away and I have not had a recurrence....thank God. I > have diligently been working on cleaning up my diet, and detoxing my > liver, and I do beleive that has helped a lot. > > My daugther is the one with eczema however. She optimized on t3 and > completely weaned off the HC and had been doing really well, but now > is having trouble with eczema breakouts again. Hers do not itch nor > are they painful. She had them before the t3 and HC, but now > they're back. They are more of a nuisance than anything, and now > that they are in the face area, she is uncomfortable as to how she > looks, understandably so. > > I'm wondering if supplemental adrenal support would work, instead of > actually going BACK on HC? > > Naffy > No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.2/1305 - Release Date: 2/29/2008 6:32 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 I use Krill Oil.. said to be three time sstrogner than fish oil in the omega's and no mercury. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 I've been using Artic Cod Liver Oil and thought that I was doing a good thing. So we need to avoid it b/c of mercury? > > I use Krill Oil.. said to be three time sstrogner than fish oil in the > omega's and no mercury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 If you use a quality brand of cod liver oil like Nordic Natural and Carlson, they are tested for mercury and should be very safe. However, I agree with Val. The krill oil is actually supposed to be better for raising your HDL, lowering LDL and TG with a smaller dose. That's why we switched. Delores Re: Eczema > I've been using Artic Cod Liver Oil and thought that I was doing a > good thing. So we need to avoid it b/c of mercury? > > > > > > I use Krill Oil.. said to be three time sstrogner than fish oil in the > > omega's and no mercury. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 Well we have to avoid flax sources of Omega 3's because flax is a goiterogen. Then, fish sources of Omega 3's can be loaded with mercury. Val just said she takes Krill Oil, so I'm going to research that some more, but I'm sure she's researched it already and it's ok. Fun to have someone do the dirty work for us, eh? LOL Naffy > > > > I use Krill Oil.. said to be three time sstrogner than fish oil in the > > omega's and no mercury. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 Not panicking - yet We're using Nordic Naturals brand. > > I've been using Artic Cod Liver Oil and thought that I was doing a > > good thing. So we need to avoid it b/c of mercury? > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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