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,

I just wanted to pipe in here and say that very frequently I can get rid of

headaches by taking certain strains of probiotics. I don't have it down to a

science, as the other day I had a migraine nothing would touch. But I mention

it b/c it seems to point to a gut/headache connection, and is consistent with

what you're saying about leaky gut.

I'm finding your posts really interesting, and wish you and your family

continued success,

Dahlia

" brianangela2001 " brianangela2001@... writes:

<...As far as glutamine, when K was a toddler and young child, she would

bang her head on the wall or floor incessantly.

After seeing this behavior on three different trials, I took it

myself and had a migraine within 90 minutes....>

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Sorry for my tardiness. I've been out of town.

We've got to figure out what this issue is with your family and

glutamine! Are there any yahoogroups for migraine? It might be

interesting to ask the " glutamine " question there.

Maybe you can write me offlist and we can get together by phone and have a

pow-wow.

I stiil believe in Osler's principle that if you listen, the patient will

tell you the diagnosis, but sometimes it takes some really good questions

and memory for details. I just hope we can get you talking enough to get

all the clues assembled (which I'm sure you've been working on diligently,

anyway) ! I just believe in synergism...

At 05:36 PM 2/20/2008, you wrote:

>,

>

>That's awesome that you've found a doctor to help. I sure hope you

>get some answers soon. What a blessed young lady your daughter is to

>have a mom like you!

>

>If you find out something on the oxalate and endocrine issues, I

>would love to hear about it. Oxalates are something that we have not

>been able to increase our tolerance of at all, depsite being low

>oxalate for over a year. I know it is oxalate and not other food

>chemicals because we have still big problems with celery and even

>plain white potato. There isn't a significant amount of phenols,

>amines, salicylates, sulfur, or other food chemicals in those that

>I'm aware of.

>

>I have a family history of kidney stones, urinary issues, joint pain,

>and endocrine problems. It would be interesting to find a common

>denominator.

>

>As far as glutamine, when K was a toddler and young child, she would

>bang her head on the wall or floor incessantly.

>

>After seeing this behavior on three different trials, I took it

>myself and had a migraine within 90 minutes.

>

>We've trialled it a couple of more times in the last three years -

>the result is the same for both daughters and myself. Major migraine

>and insomnia for two nights. My hubby gets a severe headache, but no

>sleep disturbance. (I made him try it to see what would happen =-

>) ). This was three different brands of pure, crystalline glutamine.

>

>

>

>

> >

> > > >

> > > > Here you are in a different universe!

> > > >

> > > >Hi, ,

> > >

> > >Yep, here I am...I recognized you from your first post, but haven't

> > >had a chance to contact you.

> > >

> > >I have seen your comments on the glutamate/glutamine issue. I do

> > >agree with you that glutamine is necessary for life and it is

> > >ubiquitous. However, I don't think everyone's tolerance is the

>same.

> > >

> > >I know for a certainty what happens when my family consumes MSG or

> > >high amounts of free glutamine. These reactions are not subjective

> > >or inconsistent. For us, migraines and sleepless nights are the

> > >rule. It happens to my girls whether they are with me or spending a

> > >week with their grandparents and, unbeknownst to everyone, cosnume

>a

> > >small amount of say, soy sauce hard cheese (other dairy is fine).

> > >Granny will call the next day and say K didn't sleep a wink. What

> > >could have caused it....we go over the menu, and there it is.

> > >

> > >I feel very strongly that gut health influences one's tolerances to

> > >the glutamate/glutamine/amines. Dr. Natasha Mc-Bride has

> > >talked about this. Also, there is a tie-in between oxalates and

> > >glutamate. My family also has a MAO genetic abnormality that makes

> > >us more sensitive to amines in general. (Yes, I realize there is a

> > >difference between glutamine and other amines). I have also seen

> > >studies that show people with low iron have a lower tolerance for

> > >amines.

> > >

> > >Some people, including some on the spectrum, do better on a lower

> > >protein diet. The amines may be part of that, as well as the

> > >hydroxyproline and oxalates issue.

> > >

> > >Our diet is limited in so many different ways, and I have hope that

> > >it will expand. We are still low-oxalate on top of everything else.

> > >Within the last six months, we have found the endocrine problems to

> > >be a big contributor to the health issues. We are really focusing

>on

> > >correcting those and the gut problems.

> > >

> > >I hope your daughter is doing well. The folks on this list are

> > >fabulous, and are a great source of information!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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