Re: Good books/ now 's protocol

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's Adrenal Fatigue is what I recommend to the clients in my office. I've

also recently started his protocol, has anyone else used it exclusively for any

length of time?

Thanks,

Terri

Terri Stovall, ND

Traditionl Naturopathic Doctor

Get Healthy, LLC

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Hi Terri! Great to see an ND on our list! While I love Dr 's

adrenal support protocol as support I have not been impressed in it

being used alone withotu additional cortiosl. Of course, often, by the

time people find this list, their adrenal fatigue is in a horrid state

and not the early stages at all where this protocol would be MOST

useful! I have known several folks to try this unsuccessfully for

several years (one 15 years!) and thn get releif immediately with

hydrocortisone, so I do think the stage of adrenal weakness should be

considered when this is chosen as a total support program. Also how bad

the thyroid levels are. Some people can wait to start thyroid for months

others are in dire needs of starting it quickly, in those cases, the

cortisol needs must be quickly elevated to tolerate the thyroid hormones

which precipatates adrenal healing as well.

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Val,

What stage do you consider HC a must as opposed to only s suggestions?

3,4,5,6 or 7?

thanks,

Re: Re: Good books/ now 's protocol

Hi Terri! Great to see an ND on our list! While I love Dr 's

adrenal support protocol as support I have not been impressed in it

being used alone withotu additional cortiosl. Of course, often, by the

time people find this list, their adrenal fatigue is in a horrid state

and not the early stages at all where this protocol would be MOST

useful! I have known several folks to try this unsuccessfully for

several years (one 15 years!) and thn get releif immediately with

hydrocortisone, so I do think the stage of adrenal weakness should be

considered when this is chosen as a total support program. Also how bad

the thyroid levels are. Some people can wait to start thyroid for months

others are in dire needs of starting it quickly, in those cases, the

cortisol needs must be quickly elevated to tolerate the thyroid hormones

which precipatates adrenal healing as well.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

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,

Thanks for the info. I've been working with other herbs and products for

years, and my thyroid is shot. I used to take a compounded dessicated thyroid

product prescribed by my DO a couple of years ago, he wouldn't prescribe Armour,

doesn't believe in the freshness/quality. I wish he would. Anyway, I have

conversion issues and have to have Cytomel as well, which is the only

pharmaceutical I'm taking at the moment. Thinking of asking him again for the

Armour, just want to get the adrenals under control first, as last time I ended

up with hyper symptoms, but my temps run from 95.6 to 97.2 and never higher, and

they fluctuate wildly. I used to participate in the NTH group a couple of years

ago and remember you from then, my husband is from sburg, WV, and we spoke

(email) a couple of times....ND " s cannot prescribe in Louisiana, so I'm still at

the mercy of my DO, and haven't seen him in at least a year. I've been going the

herbal route, and it does help somewhat, but

when stressed, it is just not enough. My husband works overseas in a war zone,

and my daughter had a baby in January, got married this Friday, and my Yorkie

had 7 puppies last week....if that tells you anything about my current stress

level, lol....I'm exhausted and can't sleep, night sweats, hot flashes, cold

hands and feet, legs and feet so stiff and sore that I can barely move, so

sleepy in the mid afternoon that I think I'm going to die, and have gained 60

lbs in the last 2 years........you know the drill....I'm starting anew now,

started the 's protocol today, still taking low dose Cytomel, 25 to 37.5

mg a day in 2 or 3 doses....I give myself B complex injections every other day,

and am considering a 2nd round the hCG protocol of Simeons to help me get some

of this weight off so that I can breathe....any other recommendations from your

experience? I watched my mother suffer with this terrible fatigue, and now see

it starting in my grown daughters, I have to

find a way to put a stop to it so that I can teach them before it's too

late....Thanks a bunch, Terri

Terri Stovall, ND

Traditionl Naturopathic Doctor

Get Healthy, LLC

www.inhw.org

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Well basically until you get ENOUGH cortisol the htytroid can;t work

properly. Have you done the saliva testing for yourself yet? Can you

post the results? That is always the best poace to begin to try to fix

it. I would sefinitely start wiht unrefined sea salt, that is excellent

adrenal support wiht or wihtout cortiosl. Then possibly Isocort

depending on where your adrenals are. Licorice Root if you have ebnnough

cortisol in the mornings to try to extend it's usefulness.

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As an anecdote, I personally felt a teeny better starting wilsons, but

now on Isocort, feel soooooo much better. I think there are physicians

(MDs, NDs) out there (I found articles by them on the 'net) who believe

in using Jeffries with 's supplement protocol. Meaning, while

giving the adrenals a break, you're rebuilding them with supplements,

so if/when its time to ween off, they're in a better state... I like

that combination. It makes perfect sense.

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> What stage do you consider HC a must as opposed to only s

suggestions? 3,4,5,6 or 7?

>

> Stage 4 and beyond or ANY stage where the AM cortisol is below range.

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> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

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http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

>

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Thanks,

I haven't done saliva testing recently, last testing was blood. I'll

contact ZRT and do a new saliva panel next week some time. I do sea

salt, actually brought it back from the Dead Sea myself last year,

very high mineral content. Have used sea salt exclusively for years.

I do a little licorice as well. I'll check on the Isocort and see

what I think...last saliva test was a couple of years ago, I was low

in the AM and high at night, below normal midday....average in

evening....thanks

Terri

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> Well basically until you get ENOUGH cortisol the htytroid can;t

work

> properly. Have you done the saliva testing for yourself yet? Can

you

> post the results? That is always the best poace to begin to try to

fix

> it. I would sefinitely start wiht unrefined sea salt, that is

excellent

> adrenal support wiht or wihtout cortiosl. Then possibly Isocort

> depending on where your adrenals are. Licorice Root if you have

ebnnough

> cortisol in the mornings to try to extend it's usefulness.

>

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[Guest guest]

Thanks for the info!

Terri

> >

> > What stage do you consider HC a must as opposed to only s

> suggestions? 3,4,5,6 or 7?

> >

> > Stage 4 and beyond or ANY stage where the AM cortisol is below

range.

> >

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> > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane

WV

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> > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

> >

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> >

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