Guest guest Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 I am on 25-30mg cream a day and for the day of the saliva test, I did not supplement any HC. My results are very high. I still do not understand why I cannot tolerate an increase of T3. When I increase, I keep waking up at night-sometimes hungry. Currently on 25mg T3. If my cortisol is so flipping high, why can't I increase my T3 to where I need it? <3 Tasia Cortisol Morning 42.6H [ng/ml 3.7-9.5] Cortisol Noon 15.4H [ng/ml 1.2-3.0] Cortisol Evening 18.4H [ng/ml 0.6-1.9] Cortisol Night 2.1H [ng/ml 0.4-1.0] Other Hormones: Estradiol 1.6 [inrange, pg/ml 1.3-3.3] Progesterone 112 LOW [200-3000 pg/ml] Ratio Pg/E2 70 LOW [optimal: 100-500 when E2 1.3-3.3] Testosterone 31 inrange [16-55] I think its low for my age range DHEAS 11 inrange [2-23 pg/ml] The labs were done through ZRT. Here is the summary of the results. Lots of info I was not aware of. ... Estradiol is within the expected range. Progesterone is lower than expected for use of a topical progesterone cream (suggests insufficient dosing, poor absorption, or rapid metabolism/clearance). Low ratio of progesterone/estradiol is consistent with symptoms of estrogen dominance. Other symptoms indicate estrogen deficiency, which is more likely due to other hormonal imbalances (e.g. low thyroid or high cortisol) than a lack of estrogen. Excessive estrogen, low progesterone, or a low ratio of progesterone/estradiol often leads to a functional thyroid deficiency and one or more of the following symptoms: cold hands and feet, low basal body temperature, low libido (despite normal/high testosterone), fatigue-particularly in the evening, low stamina, depression, foggy thinking, anxiety, fibromyalgia, brittle nails and hair, hair loss, puffy eyes, decreased sweating, and constipation. This patient has listed some of these symptoms. Low salivary progesterone could be due to poor absorption caused by hypothyroid conditions in the skin (myxedema-accumulation of water binding mucopolysaccharides under the skin that would impede absorption of fat-soluble steroids such as progesterone). Treatment of the thyroid condition may help with progesterone absorption. Testosterone is within normal range but symptoms are more characteristic of HIGH androgens. Progesterone has recently been supplemented which may help correct the cause of high androgens (ie. insulin resistance) but not immediately reverse all of the signs and symptoms associated with chronic exposure of the skin to high androgens, particularly loss of scalp hair and increased facial/body hair. Progesterone applied topically to the skin acts as a natural anti-androgen by competitively inhibiting the enzyme 5 alpha-reductase, which converts testosterone locally within the skin to the more potent androgen, dihydrotestosterone (DHT)(Mauvais-Jarvis P. et al. Ann Endocrinol 1975; 36(2): 55-62). Higher DHT levels seen in normal men and in women with insulin resistance/polycystic ovaries is responsible for increased sebum production in the skin (leads to acne), thicker hair growth on the face and body, and loss of scalp hair. If androgen (testosterone and/or DHEA) levels decline with progesterone therapy, this suggests that the progesterone has increased insulin sensitivity and inhibited peripheral conversion of testosterone to DHT in the skin. DHEAS is within mid-normal expected age range (7-23 ng/ml for age range 12-30). DHEAS is highest during the late teens to early twenties (10-20 ng/ml) and drops steadily with age to the lower end of range by age 70-80. Salivary cortisol is very high in the morning and continues high throughout the day. In a normal individual without significant stressors, cortisol is at its highest level in the morning shortly after awakening (optimal level 4-6 ng/ml) and steadily drops throughout the day, reaching the lowest level during sleep in the very early morning about 2 am (optimal level 0.7-1.0 ng/ml just before bed). The most common adrenal stressors that can raise cortisol levels include psychological stressors (emotional), physical insults (surgery, injury, diseases), chemical exposure (environmental pollutants, excessive medications), hypoglycemia (low blood sugar), and pathogenic infections (bacterial, viral, fungal). Acute situational stressors (e.g., anxiety over unresolved situations, travel, work-related problems, wedding, holiday season, etc.) can also result in a transient increase in cortisol levels, which is a normal response to the stressor, but levels return to normal with removal of the stressor. However, if the stressor persists the adrenal glands either continue to meet the demands of the stressor with high cortisol output, or become exhausted, wherein cortisol levels fall to normal or more commonly drop to a very low level. High cortisol production by the adrenal glands is a normal response to stressors and is essential for health. However, if high adrenal cortisol output persists over a prolonged period of time (months/years), excessive breakdown of normal tissues (muscle wasting, thinning of skin, bone loss) and immune suppression can result. Chronic high cortisol, particularly if it is elevated throughout the day or high at night, is associated most commonly with symptoms of sleep disturbances, vasomotor symptoms (hot flashes and night sweats despite normal or high estrogen levels), fatigue, depression, weight gain in the waist, bone loss, and anxiety. High cortisol can impair the actions of other hormones such as insulin and thyroid, causing tissue resistance to these hormones. For additional information about strategies for supporting adrenal health and reducing stressors, the following books are worth reading: " Adrenal Fatigue " , by L. , N.D., D.C., Ph.D.; " The Cortisol Connection " , by Talbott, Ph.D.; " The End of Stress As We Know It " by Bruce McEwen; " Awakening Athena " by Kenna son, MD; " Thyroid Power " , by Shames, MD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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