Re: Introduction and looking for opinions

[Guest guest]

Hi Biller

The fact that you have high antibodies indicates Hashimoto's thyroiditis, which

might make iodine counterproductive for you. The iodine drops alone might be the

reason you are not feeling better. My doctor made the same mistake with me. Did

you actually take an iodine test to see if you need iodine? I am only a poster

here, but in my opinion, I would cut out the iodine first, and see if that makes

a difference.

Another thing to keep in mind is that compounded T3 seems to have a weaker

effect than cytomel. I don't know why doctors keep insisting on using the

compounded T3. However, I think it could probably still work if you had a much

higher dose of it.

Those are my opinions, but Val is a real expert and she will probably weigh in.

Good luck in your treatment

Liz

>

> Hello. I'm currently part of the Natural Thyroid Hormones group. I'm currently

being treated for hypo but not real happy with the progress right now. The test

results below are from before I came off of synthroid.

>

> Thyroid Function Tests

> > TSH 0.19 uIU/mL Range 0.27-4.20

> > Free T3 3.2 pg/mL Range 2.0-4.0

> > Free T4 1.44 ng/dL Range 0.80-1.80

> > Rev T3 324 pg/mL Range 90-350

>

> TPO Auto Abs 192.0 IU/mL Range 0.0-35.0

> %Recovery 29 % Range 70-130

> hsCRP 3.30 mg/L

>

> Thyroglobulin < 0.20 ng/mL Range 0.0-55.0

> Thyroglob Ab 1454.0 IU/mL Range 0.0-40.0

>

> Since then I have been seen the doctor. I'm now on sustained release compound

T3. Started at 7.5 mg twice a day and currently at 30 mg twice a day. Also on

iodine drops (4 a day) for hypothyroidism. I'm also being treated for adrenal

fatigue with buffered vitamin C (1000 mg 2xday) and hydrocortisone (10mg

morning, 10mg,afternoon, 5 mg evening). Being treated for Vitamin D deficiency

with D3 (5000 IU per day). Vitamin B12 deficiency (Sublingual B12 1 mg). Low

magnesium (Magnesium citrate (400 mg). Low testosterone (compound cream) He also

suggested CoQ10, so I'm taking 100 mg per day.

>

> My frustration at this point is that I feel no different now 2 months later

than I did before taking just synthroid. It's difficult to tell with my basal

temp since I wasn't using a good thermometer to begin with. The last couple days

basal has been about 97F. Oral temp typically runs around there as well.

>

> I just feel like I'm throwing all this stuff out there and none of it is doing

any good. Even if I did start feeling better, how would I even know what worked?

I feel like I should back off everything except the compound T3. Try and get

that to where it looks right and see if I feel better. I don't have an issue

continuing the D3 since my levels were really low. I also have not had any new

testing done since I started all this. The doctor is going strictly by how I

feel right now.

>

> What do you think?

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the reply Liz. Do you know, is the iodine something I can just stop

or do I need to wean off of it? I did not have an iodine test. I also miss typed

in my first post I'm currently on 30 mcg twice a day of the compounded thyroid,

not mg.

Something is definitely off. Starting yesterday afternoon, I have hit a wall and

feel pretty bad. I feel bloated, can barely eat much food like I have gone

completely hypo.

Bill

> >

> > Hello. I'm currently part of the Natural Thyroid Hormones group. I'm

currently being treated for hypo but not real happy with the progress right now.

The test results below are from before I came off of synthroid.

> >

> > Thyroid Function Tests

> > > TSH 0.19 uIU/mL Range 0.27-4.20

> > > Free T3 3.2 pg/mL Range 2.0-4.0

> > > Free T4 1.44 ng/dL Range 0.80-1.80

> > > Rev T3 324 pg/mL Range 90-350

> >

> > TPO Auto Abs 192.0 IU/mL Range 0.0-35.0

> > %Recovery 29 % Range 70-130

> > hsCRP 3.30 mg/L

> >

> > Thyroglobulin < 0.20 ng/mL Range 0.0-55.0

> > Thyroglob Ab 1454.0 IU/mL Range 0.0-40.0

> >

> > Since then I have been seen the doctor. I'm now on sustained release

compound T3. Started at 7.5 mg twice a day and currently at 30 mg twice a day.

Also on iodine drops (4 a day) for hypothyroidism. I'm also being treated for

adrenal fatigue with buffered vitamin C (1000 mg 2xday) and hydrocortisone (10mg

morning, 10mg,afternoon, 5 mg evening). Being treated for Vitamin D deficiency

with D3 (5000 IU per day). Vitamin B12 deficiency (Sublingual B12 1 mg). Low

magnesium (Magnesium citrate (400 mg). Low testosterone (compound cream) He also

suggested CoQ10, so I'm taking 100 mg per day.

> >

> > My frustration at this point is that I feel no different now 2 months later

than I did before taking just synthroid. It's difficult to tell with my basal

temp since I wasn't using a good thermometer to begin with. The last couple days

basal has been about 97F. Oral temp typically runs around there as well.

> >

> > I just feel like I'm throwing all this stuff out there and none of it is

doing any good. Even if I did start feeling better, how would I even know what

worked? I feel like I should back off everything except the compound T3. Try and

get that to where it looks right and see if I feel better. I don't have an issue

continuing the D3 since my levels were really low. I also have not had any new

testing done since I started all this. The doctor is going strictly by how I

feel right now.

> >

> > What do you think?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

>

>I just feel like I'm throwing all this stuff out there and none of it is doing

any good. Even if I did start feeling better, how would I even know what worked?

I feel like I should back off everything except the compound T3. Try and get

that to where it looks right and see if I feel better. I don't have an issue

continuing the D3 since my levels were really low. I also have not had any new

testing done since I started all this. The doctor is going strictly by how I

feel right now.

>

>What do you think?

I think you would do a lot better starting up normal T3 instead of the

SR and then increasing faster.

In order to reduce RT3 you need to increase the T3 weekly or so to get

your body to reduce it's own T4 production as a result. Increase at

the right speed and you do it without hitting hypo or hyper.

Have a read through the RT3 site below, it will answer a lot of

questions and then feel free to ask more.

Nick

--

for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

www.thyroid-rt3.com

For lots of good information of adrenal issues

http://www.nthadrenalsweb.com/

and the adrenal group on

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the reply Nick. By normal T3 do you mean something like cytomel? Dr.

Mark Starr was on Coast to Coast last night and mentioned that people with

Hashi's don't handle dessicated thyroid meds well. That was something new to me.

Actually all this stuff is new to me and I feel pretty lost.

Bill

>

> >

> >I just feel like I'm throwing all this stuff out there and none of it is

doing any good. Even if I did start feeling better, how would I even know what

worked? I feel like I should back off everything except the compound T3. Try and

get that to where it looks right and see if I feel better. I don't have an issue

continuing the D3 since my levels were really low. I also have not had any new

testing done since I started all this. The doctor is going strictly by how I

feel right now.

> >

> >What do you think?

>

> I think you would do a lot better starting up normal T3 instead of the

> SR and then increasing faster.

>

> In order to reduce RT3 you need to increase the T3 weekly or so to get

> your body to reduce it's own T4 production as a result. Increase at

> the right speed and you do it without hitting hypo or hyper.

>

> Have a read through the RT3 site below, it will answer a lot of

> questions and then feel free to ask more.

>

> Nick

>

> --

>

> for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

>

> www.thyroid-rt3.com

>

> For lots of good information of adrenal issues

>

> http://www.nthadrenalsweb.com/

>

> and the adrenal group on

>

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the reply Nick. By normal T3 do you mean something like cytomel? Dr.

Mark Starr was on Coast to Coast last night and mentioned that people with

Hashi's don't handle dessicated thyroid meds well. That was something new to me.

Actually all this stuff is new to me and I feel pretty lost.

Bill

>

> >

> >I just feel like I'm throwing all this stuff out there and none of it is

doing any good. Even if I did start feeling better, how would I even know what

worked? I feel like I should back off everything except the compound T3. Try and

get that to where it looks right and see if I feel better. I don't have an issue

continuing the D3 since my levels were really low. I also have not had any new

testing done since I started all this. The doctor is going strictly by how I

feel right now.

> >

> >What do you think?

>

> I think you would do a lot better starting up normal T3 instead of the

> SR and then increasing faster.

>

> In order to reduce RT3 you need to increase the T3 weekly or so to get

> your body to reduce it's own T4 production as a result. Increase at

> the right speed and you do it without hitting hypo or hyper.

>

> Have a read through the RT3 site below, it will answer a lot of

> questions and then feel free to ask more.

>

> Nick

>

> --

>

> for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

>

> www.thyroid-rt3.com

>

> For lots of good information of adrenal issues

>

> http://www.nthadrenalsweb.com/

>

> and the adrenal group on

>

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the reply Nick. By normal T3 do you mean something like cytomel? Dr.

Mark Starr was on Coast to Coast last night and mentioned that people with

Hashi's don't handle dessicated thyroid meds well. That was something new to me.

Actually all this stuff is new to me and I feel pretty lost.

Bill

>

> >

> >I just feel like I'm throwing all this stuff out there and none of it is

doing any good. Even if I did start feeling better, how would I even know what

worked? I feel like I should back off everything except the compound T3. Try and

get that to where it looks right and see if I feel better. I don't have an issue

continuing the D3 since my levels were really low. I also have not had any new

testing done since I started all this. The doctor is going strictly by how I

feel right now.

> >

> >What do you think?

>

> I think you would do a lot better starting up normal T3 instead of the

> SR and then increasing faster.

>

> In order to reduce RT3 you need to increase the T3 weekly or so to get

> your body to reduce it's own T4 production as a result. Increase at

> the right speed and you do it without hitting hypo or hyper.

>

> Have a read through the RT3 site below, it will answer a lot of

> questions and then feel free to ask more.

>

> Nick

>

> --

>

> for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

>

> www.thyroid-rt3.com

>

> For lots of good information of adrenal issues

>

> http://www.nthadrenalsweb.com/

>

> and the adrenal group on

>

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

>

[Guest guest]

Bill, that is so interesting---did Dr. Starr say if it had to do with natural

thryoid attracting more antibodies? I have very high TPO antibodies (600-800)

and can never take natural thyroid meds--my throat swells and heart goes crazy.

But I do okay on synthetic T4 or T3. I was told that the antibodies recognize

the naturals as more like your own thyroid and attack more. I was doubtful, but

now wonder if that is true for some people.

> >

> > >

> > >I just feel like I'm throwing all this stuff out there and none of it is

doing any good. Even if I did start feeling better, how would I even know what

worked? I feel like I should back off everything except the compound T3. Try and

get that to where it looks right and see if I feel better. I don't have an issue

continuing the D3 since my levels were really low. I also have not had any new

testing done since I started all this. The doctor is going strictly by how I

feel right now.

> > >

> > >What do you think?

> >

> > I think you would do a lot better starting up normal T3 instead of the

> > SR and then increasing faster.

> >

> > In order to reduce RT3 you need to increase the T3 weekly or so to get

> > your body to reduce it's own T4 production as a result. Increase at

> > the right speed and you do it without hitting hypo or hyper.

> >

> > Have a read through the RT3 site below, it will answer a lot of

> > questions and then feel free to ask more.

> >

> > Nick

> >

> > --

> >

> > for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

> >

> > www.thyroid-rt3.com

> >

> > For lots of good information of adrenal issues

> >

> > http://www.nthadrenalsweb.com/

> >

> > and the adrenal group on

> >

> > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> >

>

[Guest guest]

That is exactly what he said actually. That because the the dessicated was close

enough to our own thyroid hormones that it just attracted more antibodies.

I understand your point, . I just thought it was interesting that he

mentioned that. Maybe it works well for some and not all. Maybe it is just

because people with Hashi's don't tolerate it well at first and needs to be

monitored more. Like I said this is all new to me, so I don't know, but the

antibodies part makes sense.

> >

> > Thanks for the reply Nick. By normal T3 do you mean something like cytomel?

Dr. Mark Starr was on Coast to Coast last night and mentioned that people with

Hashi's don't handle dessicated thyroid meds well. That was something new to me.

Actually all this stuff is new to me and I feel pretty lost.

> >

> > Bill

[Guest guest]

That is exactly what he said actually. That because the the dessicated was close

enough to our own thyroid hormones that it just attracted more antibodies.

I understand your point, . I just thought it was interesting that he

mentioned that. Maybe it works well for some and not all. Maybe it is just

because people with Hashi's don't tolerate it well at first and needs to be

monitored more. Like I said this is all new to me, so I don't know, but the

antibodies part makes sense.

> >

> > Thanks for the reply Nick. By normal T3 do you mean something like cytomel?

Dr. Mark Starr was on Coast to Coast last night and mentioned that people with

Hashi's don't handle dessicated thyroid meds well. That was something new to me.

Actually all this stuff is new to me and I feel pretty lost.

> >

> > Bill

[Guest guest]

That is exactly what he said actually. That because the the dessicated was close

enough to our own thyroid hormones that it just attracted more antibodies.

I understand your point, . I just thought it was interesting that he

mentioned that. Maybe it works well for some and not all. Maybe it is just

because people with Hashi's don't tolerate it well at first and needs to be

monitored more. Like I said this is all new to me, so I don't know, but the

antibodies part makes sense.

> >

> > Thanks for the reply Nick. By normal T3 do you mean something like cytomel?

Dr. Mark Starr was on Coast to Coast last night and mentioned that people with

Hashi's don't handle dessicated thyroid meds well. That was something new to me.

Actually all this stuff is new to me and I feel pretty lost.

> >

> > Bill