Re: Been getting heart pounding last 5 days - BUMP

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Val,

Nick, I'm into my 9th week on T3 and doing fairly well. More

energy, no hypo symptoms to really

report. This week I've been taking

25, 18.75, 25, 18.75 mcg T3 and 5, 7.5, 7.5, 2.5 mg HC. It

doesn't

seem like I've needed as much HC last month so I lowered it with

no

ill effects. My last cortisol saliva test a year ago showed I

have

good cortisol available in morning and then dump to bottom the

rest of

the day. Over the past 5 days I raised the T3 from 25, 18.75,

18.75,

18.75 up to 25, 18.75, 25, 18.75 because I was starting to get a

bit

tired by my third dose so felt I needed a raise. My pulse and bp

has

been pretty normal since the T3 raise for the first 2 doses of

T3 but

I've been noticing this week that about an hour or 2 after I

take my

3rd dose of T3 I start getting mild heart pounding. Usually

after an

hour passes from 3rd dose my pulse and bp stay in the 130 -

140/70-80

range with bp in the 80's - 90's but the heart pounding is

mildly

noticeable. Today when I took my third dose of T3, 2 hours

afterwards

I noticed the pounding and took my bp/pulse and it was 153/82

pulse

was 92. All week long the pounding doesn't last for more than an

hour

and when I take my 4th dose the pounding has already subsided. I

take

iron daily and my ferritin levels were good last labs I took.

I'm wondering if I need to reduce the T3 back to 18.75 on third

dose

and try 25, 25, 18.75, 18.75 instead? I know we want to keep our

T3

as level as possible but somethings going on an hour or 2 after

my

third dose. I raised it last week because by 3rd dose I was

really

starting to get tired so I'm a bit confused as to what to do.

Kem in Eugene

<º)))><

July 28, 2010

Interesting thought Kathleen but I've been lowering the HC 2.5mg per Val due to other stuff prior to this, it helped a lot. I also should have added in the report that my temps are really stable and averaging about 98.6 every day and have been at normal levels for well over a month now.<<Posted by: "keickholt13" keickholt13@... keickholt13Tue Jul 27, 2010 3:24 pm (PDT)Kem,I'm not Nick, hopefully he sees your post soon. But I can offer what little knowledge and experience I've had to share with you.I have the heart pounding issue from time to me and for me, it always low cortisol. I know you said you feel no ill effects from lowering your HC, but the heart pounding you're experiencing could be an ill effect you're not recognizing as related to low cortisol. I know I get it I take a dose of t3 and don't have enough cortisol to handle it. Also, I recently lowered my HC (by too much, unfortunately)) and I was having issues with my 3rd t3 dose, too. What was happening is that my heart would pound like crazy and my temps would crash after the 3rd dose. So just somethng to think about -- that maybe it's not time to lower HC especially if you are still raising t3.Also, it could be you need some salt. Have you tried that and see if it helps. Salt actually lowers my blood pressure a lot and I see lots of posts from the mods to try salt to lower a high pulse, too. And low sodium can make you tired, too. Trying 1/2 tsp salt in a glass of water is easy to do and will readily tell you if that's helping or not.Hope this helps,Kathleen>> Val, Nick, I'm into my 9th week on T3 and doing fairly well. More> energy, no hypo symptoms to really report. This week I've been taking> 25, 18.75, 25, 18.75 mcg T3 and 5, 7.5, 7.5, 2.5 mg HC. It doesn't> seem like I've needed as much HC last month so I lowered it with no> ill effects. My last cortisol saliva test a year ago showed I have> good cortisol available in morning and then dump to bottom the rest of> the day. Over the past 5 days I raised the T3 from 25, 18.75, 18.75,> 18.75 up to 25, 18.75, 25, 18.75 because I was starting to get a bit> tired by my third dose so felt I needed a raise. My pulse and bp has> been pretty normal since the T3 raise for the first 2 doses of T3 but> I've been noticing this week that about an hour or 2 after I take my> 3rd dose of T3 I start getting mild heart pounding. Usually after an> hour passes from 3rd dose my pulse and bp stay in the 130 - 140/70-80> range with bp in the 80's - 90's but the heart pounding is mildly> noticeable. Today when I took my third dose of T3, 2 hours afterwards> I noticed the pounding and took my bp/pulse and it was 153/82 pulse> was 92. All week long the pounding doesn't last for more than an hour> and when I take my 4th dose the pounding has already subsided. I take> iron daily and my ferritin levels were good last labs I took.> > I'm wondering if I need to reduce the T3 back to 18.75 on third dose> and try 25, 25, 18.75, 18.75 instead? I know we want to keep our T3> as level as possible but somethings going on an hour or 2 after my> third dose. I raised it last week because by 3rd dose I was really> starting to get tired so I'm a bit confused as to what to do.> > > Kem in Eugene> <º)))><>> Kem in Eugene <º)))><

July 28, 2010

Interesting thought Kathleen but I've been lowering the HC 2.5mg per Val due to other stuff prior to this, it helped a lot. I also should have added in the report that my temps are really stable and averaging about 98.6 every day and have been at normal levels for well over a month now.<<Posted by: "keickholt13" keickholt13@... keickholt13Tue Jul 27, 2010 3:24 pm (PDT)Kem,I'm not Nick, hopefully he sees your post soon. But I can offer what little knowledge and experience I've had to share with you.I have the heart pounding issue from time to me and for me, it always low cortisol. I know you said you feel no ill effects from lowering your HC, but the heart pounding you're experiencing could be an ill effect you're not recognizing as related to low cortisol. I know I get it I take a dose of t3 and don't have enough cortisol to handle it. Also, I recently lowered my HC (by too much, unfortunately)) and I was having issues with my 3rd t3 dose, too. What was happening is that my heart would pound like crazy and my temps would crash after the 3rd dose. So just somethng to think about -- that maybe it's not time to lower HC especially if you are still raising t3.Also, it could be you need some salt. Have you tried that and see if it helps. Salt actually lowers my blood pressure a lot and I see lots of posts from the mods to try salt to lower a high pulse, too. And low sodium can make you tired, too. Trying 1/2 tsp salt in a glass of water is easy to do and will readily tell you if that's helping or not.Hope this helps,Kathleen>> Val, Nick, I'm into my 9th week on T3 and doing fairly well. More> energy, no hypo symptoms to really report. This week I've been taking> 25, 18.75, 25, 18.75 mcg T3 and 5, 7.5, 7.5, 2.5 mg HC. It doesn't> seem like I've needed as much HC last month so I lowered it with no> ill effects. My last cortisol saliva test a year ago showed I have> good cortisol available in morning and then dump to bottom the rest of> the day. Over the past 5 days I raised the T3 from 25, 18.75, 18.75,> 18.75 up to 25, 18.75, 25, 18.75 because I was starting to get a bit> tired by my third dose so felt I needed a raise. My pulse and bp has> been pretty normal since the T3 raise for the first 2 doses of T3 but> I've been noticing this week that about an hour or 2 after I take my> 3rd dose of T3 I start getting mild heart pounding. Usually after an> hour passes from 3rd dose my pulse and bp stay in the 130 - 140/70-80> range with bp in the 80's - 90's but the heart pounding is mildly> noticeable. Today when I took my third dose of T3, 2 hours afterwards> I noticed the pounding and took my bp/pulse and it was 153/82 pulse> was 92. All week long the pounding doesn't last for more than an hour> and when I take my 4th dose the pounding has already subsided. I take> iron daily and my ferritin levels were good last labs I took.> > I'm wondering if I need to reduce the T3 back to 18.75 on third dose> and try 25, 25, 18.75, 18.75 instead? I know we want to keep our T3> as level as possible but somethings going on an hour or 2 after my> third dose. I raised it last week because by 3rd dose I was really> starting to get tired so I'm a bit confused as to what to do.> > > Kem in Eugene> <º)))><>> Kem in Eugene <º)))><

July 28, 2010

Val, I know the last time I talked to you about some problems I was having I thought it was a T3 issue and you said lower HC...and that did the trick. So, ok, I'll lower another 2.5 mg HC at my third dose (I'm assuming that's the dose your referring to) and give that a try. I didn't hear from you in time today so I just stuck with the same amounts, didn't want to screw something up so, starting tomorrow I'll continue the T3 at 25, 18.75, 25, 18.75 mcg and try the HC at 5, 7.5, 5, 2.5 mg and see if I notice a difference after my third dose. You know the only difference with my HC is the pharmacy changed manufacturers to West-ward and Qualitest so maybe it's a bit stronger than what I was taking before. Thanks Val.<<Posted by: " T" artisticgroomer@... valharlyTue Jul 27, 2010 4:30 pm (PDT)I htink you need to try reducing the HC more. http://www.nthadrenalsweb.comhttp://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/http://faqhelp.webs.com/http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/http://artisticgrooming.net/>>> Val, Nick, I'm into my 9th week on T3 and doing fairly well. More>> energy, no hypo symptoms to really report. This week I've been taking> 25, 18.75, 25, 18.75 mcg T3 and 5, 7.5, 7.5, 2.5 mg HC. It doesn't> seem like I've needed as much HC last month so I lowered it with no> ill effects. My last cortisol saliva test a year ago showed I have> good cortisol available in morning and then dump to bottom the rest of> the day. Over the past 5 days I raised the T3 from 25, 18.75, 18.75,> 18.75 up to 25, 18.75, 25, 18.75 because I was starting to get a bit> tired by my third dose so felt I needed a raise. My pulse and bp has> been pretty normal since the T3 raise for the first 2 doses of T3 but> I've been noticing this week that about an hour or 2 after I take my> 3rd dose of T3 I start getting mild heart pounding. Usually after an> hour passes from 3rd dose my pulse and bp stay in the 130 - 140/70-80> range with bp in the 80's - 90's but the heart pounding is mildly> noticeable. Today when I took my third dose of T3, 2 hours afterwards> I noticed the pounding and took my bp/pulse and it was 153/82 pulse> was 92. All week long the pounding doesn't last for more than an hour> and when I take my 4th dose the pounding has already subsided. I take> iron daily and my ferritin levels were good last labs I took.>> I'm wondering if I need to reduce the T3 back to 18.75 on third dose> and try 25, 25, 18.75, 18.75 instead? I know we want to keep our T3> as level as possible but somethings going on an hour or 2 after my> third dose. I raised it last week because by 3rd dose I was really> starting to get tired so I'm a bit confused as to what to do.>>> Kem in Eugene> <º)))><>> Kem in Eugene <º)))><

July 28, 2010

Val, I know the last time I talked to you about some problems I was having I thought it was a T3 issue and you said lower HC...and that did the trick. So, ok, I'll lower another 2.5 mg HC at my third dose (I'm assuming that's the dose your referring to) and give that a try. I didn't hear from you in time today so I just stuck with the same amounts, didn't want to screw something up so, starting tomorrow I'll continue the T3 at 25, 18.75, 25, 18.75 mcg and try the HC at 5, 7.5, 5, 2.5 mg and see if I notice a difference after my third dose. You know the only difference with my HC is the pharmacy changed manufacturers to West-ward and Qualitest so maybe it's a bit stronger than what I was taking before. Thanks Val.<<Posted by: " T" artisticgroomer@... valharlyTue Jul 27, 2010 4:30 pm (PDT)I htink you need to try reducing the HC more. http://www.nthadrenalsweb.comhttp://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/http://faqhelp.webs.com/http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/http://artisticgrooming.net/>>> Val, Nick, I'm into my 9th week on T3 and doing fairly well. More>> energy, no hypo symptoms to really report. This week I've been taking> 25, 18.75, 25, 18.75 mcg T3 and 5, 7.5, 7.5, 2.5 mg HC. It doesn't> seem like I've needed as much HC last month so I lowered it with no> ill effects. My last cortisol saliva test a year ago showed I have> good cortisol available in morning and then dump to bottom the rest of> the day. Over the past 5 days I raised the T3 from 25, 18.75, 18.75,> 18.75 up to 25, 18.75, 25, 18.75 because I was starting to get a bit> tired by my third dose so felt I needed a raise. My pulse and bp has> been pretty normal since the T3 raise for the first 2 doses of T3 but> I've been noticing this week that about an hour or 2 after I take my> 3rd dose of T3 I start getting mild heart pounding. Usually after an> hour passes from 3rd dose my pulse and bp stay in the 130 - 140/70-80> range with bp in the 80's - 90's but the heart pounding is mildly> noticeable. Today when I took my third dose of T3, 2 hours afterwards> I noticed the pounding and took my bp/pulse and it was 153/82 pulse> was 92. All week long the pounding doesn't last for more than an hour> and when I take my 4th dose the pounding has already subsided. I take> iron daily and my ferritin levels were good last labs I took.>> I'm wondering if I need to reduce the T3 back to 18.75 on third dose> and try 25, 25, 18.75, 18.75 instead? I know we want to keep our T3> as level as possible but somethings going on an hour or 2 after my> third dose. I raised it last week because by 3rd dose I was really> starting to get tired so I'm a bit confused as to what to do.>>> Kem in Eugene> <º)))><>> Kem in Eugene <º)))><

July 29, 2010

Val, I lowered the HC Wednesday as you suggested. My 4 doses of T3 and HC are around 9am, noon, 3pm and 6pm. My temps averaged normal, here are the bp and pulse results:123/74 84 1/2 hour after 1st dose144/84 86 1 hour after 2nd dose, feet a bit chilly -- temp 98.2135/78 88 1 hour after 3rd dose no pounding -- temp 98.6140/83 88 mild pounding 3 hours after 3rd dose/a bit irritable -- temp 99.2139/82 97 1 hours after 4th dose - very mild pounding but pulse high - slight anxiety/a bit irritable 121/74 92 4 hours after 4th dose - harder pounding, pulse a bit high, tired, feet a bit chilly -- temp 98.2I tried Kathleens suggestion to take 1/2 tsp sea salt, this was taken 4 hours after 4th dose - bp/pulse 30 minutes later was higher 137/78 97 - still heart pounding...seemed to make it worse;-(It seems the pounding is moving on later and later...what the heck is going on? The only thing I did different was lower my HC 2.5 mg on 3rd dose and start my progesterone today. Today I dosed T3 25, 18.75, 25, 18.75 and HC was 5, 7.5, 5, 2.5 mg, I lowered HC 2.5 mg on third dose from 7.5mg. Kem in Eugene <º)))>< Val, I know the last time I talked to you about some problems I was having I thought it was a T3 issue and you said lower HC...and that did the trick. So, ok, I'll lower another 2.5 mg HC at my third dose (I'm assuming that's the dose your referring to) and give that a try. I didn't hear from you in time today so I just stuck with the same amounts, didn't want to screw something up so, starting tomorrow I'll continue the T3 at 25, 18.75, 25, 18.75 mcg and try the HC at 5, 7.5, 5, 2.5 mg and see if I notice a difference after my third dose. You know the only difference with my HC is the pharmacy changed manufacturers to West-ward and Qualitest so maybe it's a bit stronger than what I was taking before. Thanks Val.<<Posted by: " T" artisticgroomer@... valharlyTue Jul 27, 2010 4:30 pm (PDT)I htink you need to try reducing the HC more. http://www.nthadrenalsweb.comhttp://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/http://faqhelp.webs.com/http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/http://artisticgrooming.net/>>> Val, Nick, I'm into my 9th week on T3 and doing fairly well. More>> energy, no hypo symptoms to really report. This week I've been taking> 25, 18.75, 25, 18.75 mcg T3 and 5, 7.5, 7.5, 2.5 mg HC. It doesn't> seem like I've needed as much HC last month so I lowered it with no> ill effects. My last cortisol saliva test a year ago showed I have> good cortisol available in morning and then dump to bottom the rest of> the day. Over the past 5 days I raised the T3 from 25, 18.75, 18.75,> 18.75 up to 25, 18.75, 25, 18.75 because I was starting to get a bit> tired by my third dose so felt I needed a raise. My pulse and bp has> been pretty normal since the T3 raise for the first 2 doses of T3 but> I've been noticing this week that about an hour or 2 after I take my> 3rd dose of T3 I start getting mild heart pounding. Usually after an> hour passes from 3rd dose my pulse and bp stay in the 130 - 140/70-80> range with bp in the 80's - 90's but the heart pounding is mildly> noticeable. Today when I took my third dose of T3, 2 hours afterwards> I noticed the pounding and took my bp/pulse and it was 153/82 pulse> was 92. All week long the pounding doesn't last for more than an hour> and when I take my 4th dose the pounding has already subsided. I take> iron daily and my ferritin levels were good last labs I took.>> I'm wondering if I need to reduce the T3 back to 18.75 on third dose> and try 25, 25, 18.75, 18.75 instead? I know we want to keep our T3> as level as possible but somethings going on an hour or 2 after my> third dose. I raised it last week because by 3rd dose I was really> starting to get tired so I'm a bit confused as to what to do.>>> Kem in Eugene> <º)))><>> Kem in Eugene <º)))><

July 29, 2010

The pounding heart is a symptms that can be from SO many things.

Salt does nto help it, Salt helps a too fast pulse sometimes, btu

not the opounding Magnesium sometimes help sit. It is bqasically an

imbalance symptoms thta I had for over 6 years btu it is gone now. I

really do nto knwo what caused it or fixed it but it seems ot be an

annoying but harmless symptom. If this started or worsened when oyu

lowered the HC I would go back up. If you had it before and it is

the same, perhaps you need to reduce HC further. Your BP does nto

indicate lwo cortiosl at all.

http://www.nthadrenalsweb.com

Val, I lowered the HC Wednesday as you suggested. My 4 doses of

T3 and HC are around 9am, noon, 3pm and 6pm. My temps averaged

normal, here are the bp and pulse results:

123/74 84 1/2

hour after 1st dose

144/84 86 1

hour after 2nd dose, feet a bit chilly -- temp 98.2

135/78 88 1

hour after 3rd dose no pounding -- temp 98.6

140/83 88

mild pounding 3 hours after 3rd dose/a bit irritable -- temp

99.2

139/82 97 1

hours after 4th dose - very mild pounding but pulse high -

slight anxiety/a bit irritable

121/74 92 4

hours after 4th dose - harder pounding, pulse a bit high,

tired, feet a bit chilly -- temp 98.2

I tried

Kathleens suggestion to take 1/2 tsp sea salt, this was taken

4 hours after 4th dose - bp/pulse 30 minutes later was higher

137/78 97 - still heart pounding...seemed to make it

worse;-(

It seems the

pounding is moving on later and later...what the heck is going

on? The only thing I did different was lower my HC 2.5 mg on

3rd dose and start my progesterone today. Today I dosed T3

25, 18.75, 25, 18.75 and HC was 5, 7.5, 5, 2.5 mg, I lowered

HC 2.5 mg on third dose from 7.5mg.

Kem in Eugene

<º)))><

Val, I know the last time I talked to you about some

problems I was having I thought it was a T3 issue and

you said lower HC...and that did the trick. So, ok,

I'll lower another 2.5 mg HC at my third dose (I'm

assuming that's the dose your referring to) and give

that a try. I didn't hear from you in time today so I

just stuck with the same amounts, didn't want to screw

something up so, starting tomorrow I'll continue the T3

at 25,

18.75, 25, 18.75 mcg and try the HC at 5, 7.5, 5, 2.5 mg

and see if I notice a difference after my third dose.

You know the only difference with my HC is the

pharmacy changed manufacturers to West-ward and

Qualitest so maybe it's a bit stronger than what I was

taking before. Thanks Val.

<<Posted

by: " T" artisticgroomer@... valharly

Tue Jul 27, 2010 4:30 pm (PDT)

I htink you need to try reducing the HC more.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://www.nthadrenalsweb.com http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

>

> Val, Nick, I'm into my 9th week on T3 and doing

fairly well. More

>

> energy, no hypo symptoms to really report. This

week I've been taking

> 25, 18.75, 25, 18.75 mcg T3 and 5, 7.5, 7.5, 2.5 mg

HC. It doesn't

> seem like I've needed as much HC last month so I

lowered it with no

> ill effects. My last cortisol saliva test a year

ago showed I have

> good cortisol available in morning and then dump to

bottom the rest of

> the day. Over the past 5 days I raised the T3 from

25, 18.75, 18.75,

> 18.75 up to 25, 18.75, 25, 18.75 because I was

starting to get a bit

> tired by my third dose so felt I needed a raise. My

pulse and bp has

> been pretty normal since the T3 raise for the first

2 doses of T3 but

> I've been noticing this week that about an hour or

2 after I take my

> 3rd dose of T3 I start getting mild heart pounding.

Usually after an

> hour passes from 3rd dose my pulse and bp stay in

the 130 - 140/70-80

> range with bp in the 80's - 90's but the heart

pounding is mildly

> noticeable. Today when I took my third dose of T3,

2 hours afterwards

> I noticed the pounding and took my bp/pulse and it

was 153/82 pulse

> was 92. All week long the pounding doesn't last for

more than an hour

> and when I take my 4th dose the pounding has

already subsided. I take

> iron daily and my ferritin levels were good last

labs I took.

>

> I'm wondering if I need to reduce the T3 back to

18.75 on third dose

> and try 25, 25, 18.75, 18.75 instead? I know we

want to keep our T3

> as level as possible but somethings going on an

hour or 2 after my

> third dose. I raised it last week because by 3rd

dose I was really

> starting to get tired so I'm a bit confused as to

what to do.

>

> Kem in Eugene

> <º)))><>>

Kem in Eugene

<º)))><

July 29, 2010

Well the only thing I really noticed with lowering HC was my allergies started acting up again and blood pressure getting a bit lower/I'm borderline prehypertension anyway. This morning I took my meds at 9 and turned over to go back to sleep (had a late night with ongoing heart pounding). I slept another hour and was woken up by the heart pounding again, felt pretty warm so I got up and took my bp/pulse/temp and it was 121/73, 65, temp 97.0. The heart pounding is a new deal with me. I've read elsewhere that heart pounding can have to do with an overactive thyroid (too much T3) or low potassium but my pulse normally stays under 90 and I don't know what the difference is between potassium or magnesium;-). My last electrolyte labs didn't have magnesium on them unless it's called something besides magnesium on the test. My potassium was 4.2 range 3.5 - 5.2. I don't know what to do about this pounding, it started off at my 3rd dose and now seems to be going late into the night and carrying over into the day now...it's a mystery. Anyway these are my stats for the day:121/73 65 1 1/2 hours after 1st dose at 9am, woke up with pounding, warm, bad allergies temp 97.0135/81 82 before 2nd dose - no pounding127/80 82 2 hours after 2nd dose - no pounding 98.5133/75 94 1/2 hour after 3rd dose heart pounding 98.8 139/82 74 1/2 hour before 4th dose 98.2153/86 81 1 hour after 4th dose no heart pounding but lowered my last T3 dose from 18.75 to 12.5 mcg and took normal 2.5 mg HC as I felt a bit shakey and could tell it had worn off, feeling sweaty inside airconditioned room 99.4<<Posted by: " T" artisticgroomer@... valharlyThu Jul 29, 2010 3:02 am (PDT)The pounding heart is a symptms that can be from SO many things. Salt does nto help it, Salt helps a too fast pulse sometimes, btu not the opounding Magnesium sometimes help sit. It is bqasically an imbalance symptoms thta I had for over 6 years btu it is gone now. I really do nto knwo what caused it or fixed it but it seems ot be an annoying but harmless symptom. If this started or worsened when oyu lowered the HC I would go back up. If you had it before and it is the same, perhaps you need to reduce HC further. Your BP does nto indicate lwo cortiosl at all. http://www.nthadrenalsweb.comhttp://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/http://faqhelp.webs.com/http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/http://artisticgrooming.net/>>> Val, I lowered the HC Wednesday as you suggested. My 4 doses of T3 > and HC are around 9am, noon, 3pm and 6pm. My temps averaged normal, > here are the bp and pulse results:>> 123/74 84 1/2 hour after 1st dose> 144/84 86 1 hour after 2nd dose, feet a bit chilly -- temp 98.2> 135/78 88 1 hour after 3rd dose no pounding -- temp 98.6> 140/83 88 mild pounding 3 hours after 3rd dose/a bit irritable -- > temp 99.2> 139/82 97 1 hours after 4th dose - very mild pounding but pulse > high - slight anxiety/a bit irritable> 121/74 92 4 hours after 4th dose - harder pounding, pulse a bit > high, tired, feet a bit chilly -- temp 98.2> I tried Kathleens suggestion to take 1/2 tsp sea salt, this was taken > 4 hours after 4th dose - bp/pulse 30 minutes later was higher 137/78 > 97 - still heart pounding...seemed to make it worse;-(>> It seems the pounding is moving on later and later...what the heck is > going on? The only thing I did different was lower my HC 2.5 mg on > 3rd dose and start my progesterone today. Today I dosed T3 25, 18.75, > 25, 18.75 and HC was 5, 7.5, 5, 2.5 mg, I lowered HC 2.5 mg on third > dose from 7.5mg.>> Kem in Eugene> <º)))><>> Kem in Eugene <º)))><

July 29, 2010

Well the only thing I really noticed with lowering HC was my allergies started acting up again and blood pressure getting a bit lower/I'm borderline prehypertension anyway. This morning I took my meds at 9 and turned over to go back to sleep (had a late night with ongoing heart pounding). I slept another hour and was woken up by the heart pounding again, felt pretty warm so I got up and took my bp/pulse/temp and it was 121/73, 65, temp 97.0. The heart pounding is a new deal with me. I've read elsewhere that heart pounding can have to do with an overactive thyroid (too much T3) or low potassium but my pulse normally stays under 90 and I don't know what the difference is between potassium or magnesium;-). My last electrolyte labs didn't have magnesium on them unless it's called something besides magnesium on the test. My potassium was 4.2 range 3.5 - 5.2. I don't know what to do about this pounding, it started off at my 3rd dose and now seems to be going late into the night and carrying over into the day now...it's a mystery. Anyway these are my stats for the day:121/73 65 1 1/2 hours after 1st dose at 9am, woke up with pounding, warm, bad allergies temp 97.0135/81 82 before 2nd dose - no pounding127/80 82 2 hours after 2nd dose - no pounding 98.5133/75 94 1/2 hour after 3rd dose heart pounding 98.8 139/82 74 1/2 hour before 4th dose 98.2153/86 81 1 hour after 4th dose no heart pounding but lowered my last T3 dose from 18.75 to 12.5 mcg and took normal 2.5 mg HC as I felt a bit shakey and could tell it had worn off, feeling sweaty inside airconditioned room 99.4<<Posted by: " T" artisticgroomer@... valharlyThu Jul 29, 2010 3:02 am (PDT)The pounding heart is a symptms that can be from SO many things. Salt does nto help it, Salt helps a too fast pulse sometimes, btu not the opounding Magnesium sometimes help sit. It is bqasically an imbalance symptoms thta I had for over 6 years btu it is gone now. I really do nto knwo what caused it or fixed it but it seems ot be an annoying but harmless symptom. If this started or worsened when oyu lowered the HC I would go back up. If you had it before and it is the same, perhaps you need to reduce HC further. Your BP does nto indicate lwo cortiosl at all. http://www.nthadrenalsweb.comhttp://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/http://faqhelp.webs.com/http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/http://artisticgrooming.net/>>> Val, I lowered the HC Wednesday as you suggested. My 4 doses of T3 > and HC are around 9am, noon, 3pm and 6pm. My temps averaged normal, > here are the bp and pulse results:>> 123/74 84 1/2 hour after 1st dose> 144/84 86 1 hour after 2nd dose, feet a bit chilly -- temp 98.2> 135/78 88 1 hour after 3rd dose no pounding -- temp 98.6> 140/83 88 mild pounding 3 hours after 3rd dose/a bit irritable -- > temp 99.2> 139/82 97 1 hours after 4th dose - very mild pounding but pulse > high - slight anxiety/a bit irritable> 121/74 92 4 hours after 4th dose - harder pounding, pulse a bit > high, tired, feet a bit chilly -- temp 98.2> I tried Kathleens suggestion to take 1/2 tsp sea salt, this was taken > 4 hours after 4th dose - bp/pulse 30 minutes later was higher 137/78 > 97 - still heart pounding...seemed to make it worse;-(>> It seems the pounding is moving on later and later...what the heck is > going on? The only thing I did different was lower my HC 2.5 mg on > 3rd dose and start my progesterone today. Today I dosed T3 25, 18.75, > 25, 18.75 and HC was 5, 7.5, 5, 2.5 mg, I lowered HC 2.5 mg on third > dose from 7.5mg.>> Kem in Eugene> <º)))><>> Kem in Eugene <º)))><

July 29, 2010

Well the only thing I really noticed with lowering HC was my allergies started acting up again and blood pressure getting a bit lower/I'm borderline prehypertension anyway. This morning I took my meds at 9 and turned over to go back to sleep (had a late night with ongoing heart pounding). I slept another hour and was woken up by the heart pounding again, felt pretty warm so I got up and took my bp/pulse/temp and it was 121/73, 65, temp 97.0. The heart pounding is a new deal with me. I've read elsewhere that heart pounding can have to do with an overactive thyroid (too much T3) or low potassium but my pulse normally stays under 90 and I don't know what the difference is between potassium or magnesium;-). My last electrolyte labs didn't have magnesium on them unless it's called something besides magnesium on the test. My potassium was 4.2 range 3.5 - 5.2. I don't know what to do about this pounding, it started off at my 3rd dose and now seems to be going late into the night and carrying over into the day now...it's a mystery. Anyway these are my stats for the day:121/73 65 1 1/2 hours after 1st dose at 9am, woke up with pounding, warm, bad allergies temp 97.0135/81 82 before 2nd dose - no pounding127/80 82 2 hours after 2nd dose - no pounding 98.5133/75 94 1/2 hour after 3rd dose heart pounding 98.8 139/82 74 1/2 hour before 4th dose 98.2153/86 81 1 hour after 4th dose no heart pounding but lowered my last T3 dose from 18.75 to 12.5 mcg and took normal 2.5 mg HC as I felt a bit shakey and could tell it had worn off, feeling sweaty inside airconditioned room 99.4<<Posted by: " T" artisticgroomer@... valharlyThu Jul 29, 2010 3:02 am (PDT)The pounding heart is a symptms that can be from SO many things. Salt does nto help it, Salt helps a too fast pulse sometimes, btu not the opounding Magnesium sometimes help sit. It is bqasically an imbalance symptoms thta I had for over 6 years btu it is gone now. I really do nto knwo what caused it or fixed it but it seems ot be an annoying but harmless symptom. If this started or worsened when oyu lowered the HC I would go back up. If you had it before and it is the same, perhaps you need to reduce HC further. Your BP does nto indicate lwo cortiosl at all. http://www.nthadrenalsweb.comhttp://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/http://faqhelp.webs.com/http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/http://artisticgrooming.net/>>> Val, I lowered the HC Wednesday as you suggested. My 4 doses of T3 > and HC are around 9am, noon, 3pm and 6pm. My temps averaged normal, > here are the bp and pulse results:>> 123/74 84 1/2 hour after 1st dose> 144/84 86 1 hour after 2nd dose, feet a bit chilly -- temp 98.2> 135/78 88 1 hour after 3rd dose no pounding -- temp 98.6> 140/83 88 mild pounding 3 hours after 3rd dose/a bit irritable -- > temp 99.2> 139/82 97 1 hours after 4th dose - very mild pounding but pulse > high - slight anxiety/a bit irritable> 121/74 92 4 hours after 4th dose - harder pounding, pulse a bit > high, tired, feet a bit chilly -- temp 98.2> I tried Kathleens suggestion to take 1/2 tsp sea salt, this was taken > 4 hours after 4th dose - bp/pulse 30 minutes later was higher 137/78 > 97 - still heart pounding...seemed to make it worse;-(>> It seems the pounding is moving on later and later...what the heck is > going on? The only thing I did different was lower my HC 2.5 mg on > 3rd dose and start my progesterone today. Today I dosed T3 25, 18.75, > 25, 18.75 and HC was 5, 7.5, 5, 2.5 mg, I lowered HC 2.5 mg on third > dose from 7.5mg.>> Kem in Eugene> <º)))><>> Kem in Eugene <º)))><

July 29, 2010

Val, I'm thinking I may have actually cleared. If you think I'm totally missing it on this please let me know, last thing I want to do is make myself sicker. I just checked the calendar and t's been 10 weeks now and seems the more T3 I keep taking the worse the pounding and sweats happen. Below is what happened 4 hours after I reported my 4th dose and what I did about it. I read where Nick said your temps and pulse can get high at clearance and I'm thinking I'm accumulating too much T3 towards the last 2 doses, been taking 87.5 T3 mcg. Anyway, I think need to cut my T3 down across the day to 18.75 4x and dose my HC back up 2.5 mg at end of the day due to shakey feeling. I'm going to hold the T3 at 75 mcg for the next couple of days and if I'm still having issues I'll cut back on that further until I figure out the dose that won't give me high pulse or feeling hot after 3rd dose. Nick says to cut the dose down and then work back up to find the long term dose. My RT3 ratio was 14.8 so I'm really hoping 10 weeks is what it's taken for me to clear. * 110/66 87 4 hours after 4th dose/pounding - took extra 2.5 mg HC and magnesium* 126/77 87 pounding almost gone Kem in Eugene <º)))>< Well the only thing I really noticed with lowering HC was my allergies started acting up again and blood pressure getting a bit lower/I'm borderline prehypertension anyway. This morning I took my meds at 9 and turned over to go back to sleep (had a late night with ongoing heart pounding). I slept another hour and was woken up by the heart pounding again, felt pretty warm so I got up and took my bp/pulse/temp and it was 121/73, 65, temp 97.0. The heart pounding is a new deal with me. I've read elsewhere that heart pounding can have to do with an overactive thyroid (too much T3) or low potassium but my pulse normally stays under 90 and I don't know what the difference is between potassium or magnesium;-). My last electrolyte labs didn't have magnesium on them unless it's called something besides magnesium on the test. My potassium was 4.2 range 3.5 - 5.2. I don't know what to do about this pounding, it started off at my 3rd dose and now seems to be going late into the night and carrying over into the day now...it's a mystery. Anyway these are my stats for the day:121/73 65 1 1/2 hours after 1st dose at 9am, woke up with pounding, warm, bad allergies temp 97.0135/81 82 before 2nd dose - no pounding127/80 82 2 hours after 2nd dose - no pounding 98.5133/75 94 1/2 hour after 3rd dose heart pounding 98.8 139/82 74 1/2 hour before 4th dose 98.2153/86 81 1 hour after 4th dose no heart pounding but lowered my last T3 dose from 18.75 to 12.5 mcg and took normal 2.5 mg HC as I felt a bit shakey and could tell it had worn off, feeling sweaty inside airconditioned room 99.4<<Posted by: " T" artisticgroomer@... valharlyThu Jul 29, 2010 3:02 am (PDT)The pounding heart is a symptms that can be from SO many things. Salt does nto help it, Salt helps a too fast pulse sometimes, btu not the opounding Magnesium sometimes help sit. It is bqasically an imbalance symptoms thta I had for over 6 years btu it is gone now. I really do nto knwo what caused it or fixed it but it seems ot be an annoying but harmless symptom. If this started or worsened when oyu lowered the HC I would go back up. If you had it before and it is the same, perhaps you need to reduce HC further. Your BP does nto indicate lwo cortiosl at all. http://www.nthadrenalsweb.comhttp://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/http://faqhelp.webs.com/http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/http://artisticgrooming.net/>>> Val, I lowered the HC Wednesday as you suggested. My 4 doses of T3 > and HC are around 9am, noon, 3pm and 6pm. My temps averaged normal, > here are the bp and pulse results:>> 123/74 84 1/2 hour after 1st dose> 144/84 86 1 hour after 2nd dose, feet a bit chilly -- temp 98.2> 135/78 88 1 hour after 3rd dose no pounding -- temp 98.6> 140/83 88 mild pounding 3 hours after 3rd dose/a bit irritable -- > temp 99.2> 139/82 97 1 hours after 4th dose - very mild pounding but pulse > high - slight anxiety/a bit irritable> 121/74 92 4 hours after 4th dose - harder pounding, pulse a bit > high, tired, feet a bit chilly -- temp 98.2> I tried Kathleens suggestion to take 1/2 tsp sea salt, this was taken > 4 hours after 4th dose - bp/pulse 30 minutes later was higher 137/78 > 97 - still heart pounding...seemed to make it worse;-(>> It seems the pounding is moving on later and later...what the heck is > going on? The only thing I did different was lower my HC 2.5 mg on > 3rd dose and start my progesterone today. Today I dosed T3 25, 18.75, > 25, 18.75 and HC was 5, 7.5, 5, 2.5 mg, I lowered HC 2.5 mg on third > dose from 7.5mg.>> Kem in Eugene> <º)))><>> Kem in Eugene <º)))><

July 30, 2010

All you can do is try it. I never got the pounding symptoms from

high T3 mine was alwauys when I was low in T3 and adrenals messed up

but YOU may be differnt. But DO give these trials more than ONE day

as it takes at least 3 days for your body to adjust to a new dose of

ANY hormone sometimes longer as thye affect other hormones and

conversions.l

http://www.nthadrenalsweb.com

Val, I'm thinking

I may have actually cleared. If you think I'm totally missing

it on this please let me know, last thing I want to do is make

myself sicker. I just checked the calendar and t's been 10

weeks now and seems the more T3 I keep taking the worse the

pounding and sweats happen. Below is what happened 4 hours

after I reported my 4th dose and what I did about it. I read

where Nick said your temps and pulse can get high at clearance

and I'm thinking I'm accumulating too much T3 towards the last 2

doses, been taking 87.5 T3 mcg. Anyway, I think need to cut my

T3 down across the day to 18.75 4x and dose my HC back up 2.5 mg

at end of the day due to shakey feeling. I'm going to hold the

T3 at 75 mcg for the next couple of days and if I'm still having

issues I'll cut back on that further until I figure out the dose

that won't give me high pulse or feeling hot after 3rd dose.

Nick says to cut the dose down and then work back up to find

the long term dose. My RT3 ratio was 14.8 so I'm really hoping

10 weeks is what it's taken for me to clear.

* 110/66 87 4

hours after 4th dose/pounding - took extra 2.5 mg HC and

magnesium

* 126/77 87

pounding almost gone

Kem in Eugene

<º)))><

Well the only thing I really noticed with lowering HC

was my allergies started acting up again and blood

pressure getting a bit lower/I'm borderline

prehypertension anyway. This morning I took my meds at 9

and turned over to go back to sleep (had a late night with

ongoing heart pounding). I slept another hour and was

woken up by the heart pounding again, felt pretty warm so

I got up and took my bp/pulse/temp and it was 121/73, 65, temp 97.0. The

heart pounding is a new deal with me. I've read

elsewhere that heart pounding can have to do with an

overactive thyroid (too much T3) or low potassium but my

pulse normally stays under 90 and I don't know what the

difference is between potassium or magnesium;-). My

last electrolyte labs didn't have magnesium on them

unless it's called something besides magnesium on the

test. My potassium was 4.2 range 3.5 - 5.2. I don't

know what to do about this pounding, it started off at

my 3rd dose and now seems to be going late into the

night and carrying over into the day now...it's a

mystery. Anyway these are my stats for the day:

121/73

65 1 1/2 hours after 1st dose at 9am, woke up with

pounding, warm, bad allergies temp 97.0

135/81

82 before 2nd dose - no pounding

127/80

82 2 hours after 2nd dose - no pounding 98.5

133/75

94 1/2 hour after 3rd dose heart pounding 98.8

139/82

74 1/2 hour before 4th dose 98.2

153/86

81 1 hour after 4th dose no heart pounding but

lowered my last T3 dose from 18.75 to 12.5 mcg and

took normal 2.5 mg HC as I felt a bit shakey and could

tell it had worn off, feeling sweaty inside

airconditioned room 99.4

<<Posted

by: " T" artisticgroomer@... valharly

Thu Jul 29, 2010 3:02 am (PDT)

The pounding heart is a symptms that can be from SO many

things. Salt

does nto help it, Salt helps a too fast pulse sometimes,

btu not the

opounding Magnesium sometimes help sit. It is bqasically

an imbalance

symptoms thta I had for over 6 years btu it is gone now. I

really do nto

knwo what caused it or fixed it but it seems ot be an

annoying but

harmless symptom. If this started or worsened when oyu

lowered the HC I

would go back up. If you had it before and it is the same,

perhaps you

need to reduce HC further. Your BP does nto indicate lwo

cortiosl at all.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/