Re: Does anyone actually stabilize and heal from RT3 issues?

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AMY, 2mcg is a VERY tiny dose. and being SR which we have found maybe

HALF is absorbed, it is liek nothign. Sensitivity ot meds is 90% fom low

cortiosl. sensitivity to T3 is almosyt always lwo cortils or lwo iron.

These are nto drugs they are hormones your body produces naturally. they

are bioidentical to the hormones oyu body produces., You tolerate Cipro

and are worried abotu T3? Somehting is wrong wiht this mindset.

http://www.nthadrenalsweb.com

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

http://artisticgrooming.net/

> Hey everyone,

> I am new to this group- have been on the adrenal site.

> I am two days into treating my RT3 issue (10) with Compounded SR T3 (2 mg-

SUPER low, I know). My doc wanted to use this first becuase I am so sensitive to

changes in meds and i seem to need less than others to get the job done. ( I am

on 5 mg HC in am and noon.) My ferritin was 14 a month and a half ago, and I

increased my Iron chelate to 5 pills a day to get that number up. I am on a ton

of supplements, GFCF diet, 1x week B12/vit shots. My questions are these:

> 1) Am I just wasting my time on such a low dose of T3?

> 2) At what point should I switch to Cytomel?

> 3) Do people really stabilize and heal from RT3 issues? I keep reading and

can't seem to find any success stories other than Nick and Val.

> 4) Are my temps going to be helpful in charting my reaction to T3? (second

half of my cylce my temps are around 98.5-98.7, and first half is 98 typically)

>

>

> I am feeling overwhelmed by what is ahead of me. It has taken me a year and a

half to get to the level of stability I have (which is miraculous- but far from

how I should feel at 30)I am willing to do everything and anything to get

totally well for me, my husband and my sweet babies. Just am begining to wonder

what roller-coaster I just got on.

> Thanks for listening...

> Amy

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> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our experiences.

Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor. Yahoo! Groups

Links

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[Guest guest]

Sorry I see it was nto you oin Cipro., I am tryign to do too many

emails this am...

http://www.nthadrenalsweb.com

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

http://artisticgrooming.net/

> Hey everyone,

> I am new to this group- have been on the adrenal site.

> I am two days into treating my RT3 issue (10) with Compounded SR T3 (2 mg-

SUPER low, I know). My doc wanted to use this first becuase I am so sensitive to

changes in meds and i seem to need less than others to get the job done. ( I am

on 5 mg HC in am and noon.) My ferritin was 14 a month and a half ago, and I

increased my Iron chelate to 5 pills a day to get that number up. I am on a ton

of supplements, GFCF diet, 1x week B12/vit shots. My questions are these:

> 1) Am I just wasting my time on such a low dose of T3?

> 2) At what point should I switch to Cytomel?

> 3) Do people really stabilize and heal from RT3 issues? I keep reading and

can't seem to find any success stories other than Nick and Val.

> 4) Are my temps going to be helpful in charting my reaction to T3? (second

half of my cylce my temps are around 98.5-98.7, and first half is 98 typically)

>

>

> I am feeling overwhelmed by what is ahead of me. It has taken me a year and a

half to get to the level of stability I have (which is miraculous- but far from

how I should feel at 30)I am willing to do everything and anything to get

totally well for me, my husband and my sweet babies. Just am begining to wonder

what roller-coaster I just got on.

> Thanks for listening...

> Amy

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> ------------------------------------

>

> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our experiences.

Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor. Yahoo! Groups

Links

>

>

>

>

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Val,

the dose is 2mg not 2 mcg- does that make a diff? So, are you saying i should

move to cytomel? Are you saying I should up my HC? My temps are stable and I am

feel stable?? I am working on my iron as fast as I can. I don't think I have

" mindset " that needs to be corrected- I am just worried about crashing. I have 3

small children who need my care- I can't afford to go far back. I would LOVE to

take cytomel- just was under the impression is wasn't wise considering my

iron/ferritin status. So do you think I should stop wastin my time with the

compounded and ask for cytomel??

Thanks for your tireless help...

> > Hey everyone,

> > I am new to this group- have been on the adrenal site.

> > I am two days into treating my RT3 issue (10) with Compounded SR T3 (2 mg-

SUPER low, I know). My doc wanted to use this first becuase I am so sensitive to

changes in meds and i seem to need less than others to get the job done. ( I am

on 5 mg HC in am and noon.) My ferritin was 14 a month and a half ago, and I

increased my Iron chelate to 5 pills a day to get that number up. I am on a ton

of supplements, GFCF diet, 1x week B12/vit shots. My questions are these:

> > 1) Am I just wasting my time on such a low dose of T3?

> > 2) At what point should I switch to Cytomel?

> > 3) Do people really stabilize and heal from RT3 issues? I keep reading and

can't seem to find any success stories other than Nick and Val.

> > 4) Are my temps going to be helpful in charting my reaction to T3? (second

half of my cylce my temps are around 98.5-98.7, and first half is 98 typically)

> >

> >

> > I am feeling overwhelmed by what is ahead of me. It has taken me a year and

a half to get to the level of stability I have (which is miraculous- but far

from how I should feel at 30)I am willing to do everything and anything to get

totally well for me, my husband and my sweet babies. Just am begining to wonder

what roller-coaster I just got on.

> > Thanks for listening...

> > Amy

> >

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> > We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our

experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.

[Guest guest]

Then you missed my posts Amy. I have been working on Rt3 since a year ago this past April. I did get my Rt3 down to <17. My temps are VERY stable although I need to increase as they are 98.3 everyday. It is a long road and there are bumps in the road but it is possible. Val and Nick are not the only success stories. What tends to happen is that people start feeling better or get optimal on all levels and then they stop posting or reading what is going on here. This is a great group with priceless info where even my doctor is using info I bring to her.Hope this helps.VeniziaFrom:

amyhilliker@... Subject: Does anyone actually stabilize and heal from RT3 issues?To: RT3_T3 Date: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 11:49 PM

Hey everyone,

I am new to this group- have been on the adrenal site.

I am two days into treating my RT3 issue (10) with Compounded SR T3 (2 mg- SUPER low, I know). My doc wanted to use this first becuase I am so sensitive to changes in meds and i seem to need less than others to get the job done. ( I am on 5 mg HC in am and noon.) My ferritin was 14 a month and a half ago, and I increased my Iron chelate to 5 pills a day to get that number up. I am on a ton of supplements, GFCF diet, 1x week B12/vit shots. My questions are these:

1) Am I just wasting my time on such a low dose of T3?

2) At what point should I switch to Cytomel?

3) Do people really stabilize and heal from RT3 issues? I keep reading and can't seem to find any success stories other than Nick and Val.

4) Are my temps going to be helpful in charting my reaction to T3? (second half of my cylce my temps are around 98.5-98.7, and first half is 98 typically)

I am feeling overwhelmed by what is ahead of me. It has taken me a year and a half to get to the level of stability I have (which is miraculous- but far from how I should feel at 30)I am willing to do everything and anything to get totally well for me, my husband and my sweet babies. Just am begining to wonder what roller-coaster I just got on.

Thanks for listening...

Amy

[Guest guest]

Thank you so much for sharing your story! I truly appreciate it. I hope your

health only continues to improve! Blessings to you!

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> From: amyhilliker@...

> Subject: Does anyone actually stabilize and heal from RT3 issues?

> To: RT3_T3

> Date: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 11:49 PM

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> Hey everyone,

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> I am new to this group- have been on the adrenal site.

>

> I am two days into treating my RT3 issue (10) with Compounded SR T3 (2 mg-

SUPER low, I know). My doc wanted to use this first becuase I am so sensitive to

changes in meds and i seem to need less than others to get the job done. ( I am

on 5 mg HC in am and noon.) My ferritin was 14 a month and a half ago, and I

increased my Iron chelate to 5 pills a day to get that number up. I am on a ton

of supplements, GFCF diet, 1x week B12/vit shots. My questions are these:

>

> 1) Am I just wasting my time on such a low dose of T3?

>

> 2) At what point should I switch to Cytomel?

>

> 3) Do people really stabilize and heal from RT3 issues? I keep reading and

can't seem to find any success stories other than Nick and Val.

>

> 4) Are my temps going to be helpful in charting my reaction to T3? (second

half of my cylce my temps are around 98.5-98.7, and first half is 98 typically)

>

>

>

> I am feeling overwhelmed by what is ahead of me. It has taken me a year and a

half to get to the level of stability I have (which is miraculous- but far from

how I should feel at 30)I am willing to do everything and anything to get

totally well for me, my husband and my sweet babies. Just am begining to wonder

what roller-coaster I just got on.

>

> Thanks for listening...

>

> Amy

>

[Guest guest]

I got my RT3 way down too. Last time I checked it was below normal range,

actually.

I am on a new diet and my temps have come up, and now I am finally working on

adrenal stuff. It is a slow process but it works. There is not way that you

cannot clear the RT3 eventually if you are on T3 only for long enough, as far as

I can tell. The diet has really helped. It was the missing piece for me.

Liz

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> From: amyhilliker@...

> Subject: Does anyone actually stabilize and heal from RT3 issues?

> To: RT3_T3

> Date: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 11:49 PM

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> Hey everyone,

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> I am new to this group- have been on the adrenal site.

>

> I am two days into treating my RT3 issue (10) with Compounded SR T3 (2 mg-

SUPER low, I know). My doc wanted to use this first becuase I am so sensitive to

changes in meds and i seem to need less than others to get the job done. ( I am

on 5 mg HC in am and noon.) My ferritin was 14 a month and a half ago, and I

increased my Iron chelate to 5 pills a day to get that number up. I am on a ton

of supplements, GFCF diet, 1x week B12/vit shots. My questions are these:

>

> 1) Am I just wasting my time on such a low dose of T3?

>

> 2) At what point should I switch to Cytomel?

>

> 3) Do people really stabilize and heal from RT3 issues? I keep reading and

can't seem to find any success stories other than Nick and Val.

>

> 4) Are my temps going to be helpful in charting my reaction to T3? (second

half of my cylce my temps are around 98.5-98.7, and first half is 98 typically)

>

>

>

> I am feeling overwhelmed by what is ahead of me. It has taken me a year and a

half to get to the level of stability I have (which is miraculous- but far from

how I should feel at 30)I am willing to do everything and anything to get

totally well for me, my husband and my sweet babies. Just am begining to wonder

what roller-coaster I just got on.

>

> Thanks for listening...

>

> Amy

>

[Guest guest]

I got my RT3 way down too. Last time I checked it was below normal range,

actually.

I am on a new diet and my temps have come up, and now I am finally working on

adrenal stuff. It is a slow process but it works. There is not way that you

cannot clear the RT3 eventually if you are on T3 only for long enough, as far as

I can tell. The diet has really helped. It was the missing piece for me.

Liz

>

> From: amyhilliker@...

> Subject: Does anyone actually stabilize and heal from RT3 issues?

> To: RT3_T3

> Date: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 11:49 PM

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> Hey everyone,

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> I am new to this group- have been on the adrenal site.

>

> I am two days into treating my RT3 issue (10) with Compounded SR T3 (2 mg-

SUPER low, I know). My doc wanted to use this first becuase I am so sensitive to

changes in meds and i seem to need less than others to get the job done. ( I am

on 5 mg HC in am and noon.) My ferritin was 14 a month and a half ago, and I

increased my Iron chelate to 5 pills a day to get that number up. I am on a ton

of supplements, GFCF diet, 1x week B12/vit shots. My questions are these:

>

> 1) Am I just wasting my time on such a low dose of T3?

>

> 2) At what point should I switch to Cytomel?

>

> 3) Do people really stabilize and heal from RT3 issues? I keep reading and

can't seem to find any success stories other than Nick and Val.

>

> 4) Are my temps going to be helpful in charting my reaction to T3? (second

half of my cylce my temps are around 98.5-98.7, and first half is 98 typically)

>

>

>

> I am feeling overwhelmed by what is ahead of me. It has taken me a year and a

half to get to the level of stability I have (which is miraculous- but far from

how I should feel at 30)I am willing to do everything and anything to get

totally well for me, my husband and my sweet babies. Just am begining to wonder

what roller-coaster I just got on.

>

> Thanks for listening...

>

> Amy

>

[Guest guest]

If you don't mind my asking---what diet are you doing?

I got my RT3 way down too. Last time I checked it was below normal range, actually.I am on a new diet and my temps have come up, and now I am finally working on adrenal stuff. It is a slow process but it works. There is not way that you cannot clear the RT3 eventually if you are on T3 only for long enough, as far as I can tell. The diet has really helped. It was the missing piece for me.Liz.

[Guest guest]

I am basically doing the paleo diet. Meat (free range), veggies, nuts, some

fruits, and cheddar cheese, organic potato chips occasionally. No grains, no

sugar. Thats it!!!

I fix a lot of chicken soup from scratch...

HTH

Liz

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[Guest guest]

Liz,

I so agree with you on the Paleo diet! I think it helped me tremendously as

well. I grew up in the 80s and I think all that low-fat, high carb eating, not

to mention the constant dieting and probably yo yo blood sugar from eating that

way, just took a horrid toll on my adrenals and likely caused my rt3 problem.

Kathleen

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Amy,

Hang in there. It was a very rocky road for me as when i started and it has been

5 years now. I am not tryng to scare you; I just didn't have good information at

first. I was put on synthroid and then Armour and then Armour plus t3. This all

crashed my adrenals and made my rt3 problem worse. Then I caught mono! Well,

it's been a roller coaster to say the least BUT I am finally getting better,

YAY, with t3 only, HC and Florinef. There are more good days than bad ones and I

am starting to feel human again.

Groups like these really help a lot.

And Val has helped tremendously with the phone consults as, believe me, it DOES

get confusing. But if you hang in there, you will make it, trust me. :-)

Kathleen

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> I am feeling overwhelmed by what is ahead of me. It has taken me a year and a

half to get to the level of stability I have (which is miraculous- but far from

how I should feel at 30)I am willing to do everything and anything to get

totally well for me, my husband and my sweet babies. Just am begining to wonder

what roller-coaster I just got on.

> Thanks for listening...

> Amy

>

[Guest guest]

Here are links to some success stories that have been posted here:

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/message/34835

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/message/39647

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/message/42006

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/message/44155

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> Hey everyone,

> I am new to this group- have been on the adrenal site.

> I am two days into treating my RT3 issue (10) with Compounded SR T3 (2 mg-

SUPER low, I know). My doc wanted to use this first becuase I am so sensitive to

changes in meds and i seem to need less than others to get the job done. ( I am

on 5 mg HC in am and noon.) My ferritin was 14 a month and a half ago, and I

increased my Iron chelate to 5 pills a day to get that number up. I am on a ton

of supplements, GFCF diet, 1x week B12/vit shots. My questions are these:

> 1) Am I just wasting my time on such a low dose of T3?

> 2) At what point should I switch to Cytomel?

> 3) Do people really stabilize and heal from RT3 issues? I keep reading and

can't seem to find any success stories other than Nick and Val.

> 4) Are my temps going to be helpful in charting my reaction to T3? (second

half of my cylce my temps are around 98.5-98.7, and first half is 98 typically)

>

>

> I am feeling overwhelmed by what is ahead of me. It has taken me a year and a

half to get to the level of stability I have (which is miraculous- but far from

how I should feel at 30)I am willing to do everything and anything to get

totally well for me, my husband and my sweet babies. Just am begining to wonder

what roller-coaster I just got on.

> Thanks for listening...

> Amy

>

[Guest guest]

i thought cheddar cheese was the worst cheese one could eat............it is highly processed isn't it?

Subject: Re: Does anyone actually stabilize and heal from RT3 issues?To: RT3_T3 Date: Monday, August 2, 2010, 5:38 PM

Liz,I so agree with you on the Paleo diet! I think it helped me tremendously as well. I grew up in the 80s and I think all that low-fat, high carb eating, not to mention the constant dieting and probably yo yo blood sugar from eating that way, just took a horrid toll on my adrenals and likely caused my rt3 problem.Kathleen> > .>

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>i thought cheddar cheese was the worst cheese one could eat............it is

highly processed isn't it?

Decent Cheddar is not highly processed, it's things like the " cheese

slices " that go into burgers that are heavily processed

Nick

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for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

www.thyroid-rt3.com

For lots of good information of adrenal issues

http://www.nthadrenalsweb.com/

and the adrenal group on

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

[Guest guest]

Hi Kathleen

Yep, I grew up in the 80's too and ate lots of carbs. I never really had weight

troubles but always was dieting to be skinny. In my adulthood I got addicted to

sweets and carbs, even though I thought I was eating healthy. I hate being on

this diet, but I feel like I have no choice! LOL

I read that at one point you were on both armour and cytomel. Right now I am

trying a small amount of naturethroid with cytomel. How much did you take of

each and when did you know it was not working?

Thanks

Liz

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I don't think it is highly processed. I am okay with it because it actually

doesn't have much lactose in it. Apparently most of the hard cheeses have less

lactose. I learned that from " Breaking the Vicious Cycle, " a book about the

specific carbohydrate diet. You can still have some kinds of cheese, including

cheddar and havarti.

Liz

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Same here. Was never heavy, just always wanted to be (and was) model thin. To

the point of bulemia, which I acutally think was low BG problems as I would

CRAVE carbs but didn't want to gain weight, so would purge. :-( ALL my cravings

to binge and purge went away once I went on HC! I also did learn to accept

myself one clothing size bigger. :-) For me, that was a huge improvement, so I

actually eat now and don't starve myself on the time, which I know creates rt3

problems, too. But all those years, the things I did to my body! :-(

I actually don't mind the paleo diet. For me, once I stopped the grains and

breads, I really didn't crave them anymore. I've learned to cook some really

great dishes. My husband is vegetarian anyway, so I make lots of curries and

Indian foods with tons of veggies and just add meat to mine. :-) Sure, I would

like to eat a bran muffin now and again, lol, but it's not some horrible craving

that I can't control or something. I do eat a bit on quinoa now and again or

some gluten free bread with my eggs for breakfast. I miss cheese, but I'm

intolerant of casein. GRHHH.

I think I was 1 grain of Armour and 100 mcg Cytomel. That was so long ago, but

with me, what happened was that the Armour would shut down my TSH so much that I

would have to take a ton of cytomel to make up for it AND to make up for the

fact that I don't convert the t4! I had almost perfect labs on this -- ft4

around 1.3 and ft3 slightly over top of range. BUT I didn't feel right. I can't

remember exactly how I felt, but I definitely didn't feel like " Yay! I did it! I

recovered! " I suspect most of the t4 was turning into rt3 and all the ft3 was

coming from the Cytomel. So I probably still had blocked receptors and the t3

wasn't properly getting into the cells, not to mention the adrenal stress from

the rt3. But that doc didn't understand the rt3 thing and I didn't know about it

then, either. I think I did this at least 6 months or so before I told him I

didn't feel right still. I mean, I was much better than before but I still had

no stamina and just felt " off " and under the weather all the time. I remember

telling him I didn't feel well and his face melted as he was so happy when he

saw my labs, lol.

To his credit, he diagnosed my low aldosterone and had me on Florinef and not

being on it the past couple of years really did a number on me and prevented me

from getting optimized on t3 only. I am much better now that I'm back on it.

Kathleen

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Hi Kathleen

Your story sounds similar to my own. I have actually seen your posts in the past

and noticed that as well, bc some posters have more what I think of as

" atypical " cases regarding RT3 and adrenal fatigue going on, which I consider

mine to be, also. I think I noticed yours was like that when you posted in the

past. I always feel like something else is going on with me, but I am never sure

what it is underlying everything. It started with a virus 15 years ago but there

are major genetic components because I have family members with CFS, stuff like

that. The diet also tells me that leaky gut is a factor.

I am so glad you are feeling better!

I am thinking that I may have to go back on T3 only as well, because I fear that

the naturethroid I added to my cytomel will/is going to make too much RT3. I

just hate that my SGBH is so high on T3 only because I used to take estriol and

it helped me so much, and now it doesn't work.

Arg. Anyway, thanks for sharing your story. It helps to see how everyone is

figuring it all out.

Sorry Val, I know this is long and getting OT!!

Liz

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if you dont mind me asking how is your libido when on just T3 meds?? i am wondering as i am considering making the transition myself and with high shbg already i am not sure what to do...

Subject: Re: Does anyone actually stabilize and heal from RT3 issues?To: RT3_T3 Date: Tuesday, August 3, 2010, 8:29 PM

Hi KathleenYour story sounds similar to my own. I have actually seen your posts in the past and noticed that as well, bc some posters have more what I think of as "atypical" cases regarding RT3 and adrenal fatigue going on, which I consider mine to be, also. I think I noticed yours was like that when you posted in the past. I always feel like something else is going on with me, but I am never sure what it is underlying everything. It started with a virus 15 years ago but there are major genetic components because I have family members with CFS, stuff like that. The diet also tells me that leaky gut is a factor.I am so glad you are feeling better!I am thinking that I may have to go back on T3 only as well, because I fear that the naturethroid I added to my cytomel will/is going to make too much RT3. I just hate that my SGBH is so high on T3 only because I used to take estriol and it helped me so much, and now it doesn't work.Arg.

Anyway, thanks for sharing your story. It helps to see how everyone is figuring it all out.Sorry Val, I know this is long and getting OT!!Liz> > > > > .> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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My libido doesn't seem to be affected by T3 only, actually. I have been on SSRI

antidepressants and that caused problems, but I haven't had any feelings like

that with cytomel. I do take a small amount of DHEA (under 5 mg per day) to

raise testosterone levels, although it doesn't seem to work on estrogen levels.

At least with testosterone, you can take it and it doesn't cause more SHBG to be

made. With estrogen, the estrogen itself causes more production of SHBG, so it

can be a vicious cycle if you supplement it.

Liz

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My libido doesn't seem to be affected by T3 only, actually. I have been on SSRI

antidepressants and that caused problems, but I haven't had any feelings like

that with cytomel. I do take a small amount of DHEA (under 5 mg per day) to

raise testosterone levels, although it doesn't seem to work on estrogen levels.

At least with testosterone, you can take it and it doesn't cause more SHBG to be

made. With estrogen, the estrogen itself causes more production of SHBG, so it

can be a vicious cycle if you supplement it.

Liz

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i am also wondering about libido cause i have an 18 yr old daughter who is on a combo of NT and cytomel but may be having to drop the NT soon and i dont want to mess with the natural pattern of testosterone etc...bad enough at my age but want her to have normal life at this stage anyway!..

Subject: Re: Does anyone actually stabilize and heal from RT3 issues?To: RT3_T3 Date: Tuesday, August 3, 2010, 9:10 PM

My libido doesn't seem to be affected by T3 only, actually. I have been on SSRI antidepressants and that caused problems, but I haven't had any feelings like that with cytomel. I do take a small amount of DHEA (under 5 mg per day) to raise testosterone levels, although it doesn't seem to work on estrogen levels. At least with testosterone, you can take it and it doesn't cause more SHBG to be made. With estrogen, the estrogen itself causes more production of SHBG, so it can be a vicious cycle if you supplement it.Liz> > > > > > .> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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i am also wondering about libido cause i have an 18 yr old daughter who is on a combo of NT and cytomel but may be having to drop the NT soon and i dont want to mess with the natural pattern of testosterone etc...bad enough at my age but want her to have normal life at this stage anyway!..

Subject: Re: Does anyone actually stabilize and heal from RT3 issues?To: RT3_T3 Date: Tuesday, August 3, 2010, 9:10 PM

My libido doesn't seem to be affected by T3 only, actually. I have been on SSRI antidepressants and that caused problems, but I haven't had any feelings like that with cytomel. I do take a small amount of DHEA (under 5 mg per day) to raise testosterone levels, although it doesn't seem to work on estrogen levels. At least with testosterone, you can take it and it doesn't cause more SHBG to be made. With estrogen, the estrogen itself causes more production of SHBG, so it can be a vicious cycle if you supplement it.Liz> > > > > > .> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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Hi Liz,

I don't know if I'm atypical or not. I mean, I was a total Type A personality,

burned the candle at both ends, had tons of family life stress as a kid, so all

that on TOP of the starving and dieting, well, that just probably sent me into

rt3 heaven. I was probably high cortisol for a long time (history of panic

attacks, etc) before I went low cortisol. I'm sure I lived on cortisol and

adrenaline before I even knew I wasn't making rt3.

I did have a virus, it's true, but that's not what " started " everything. I

caught that after being hypo and having AF for several years. :-(

BUT there was something else going on with me, I think. I took antibiotics for

acne for about 15 years. Can we say no gut flora, candida, and leaky gut? I am

sure I ruined my gut and that is taking a while to heal. It seems better though,

now, but I still avoid gluten and milk just to be sure. Actually, I get stuffy

when I eat milk so I know it bothers me. And I think the diet has helped me,

too.

I haven't tested my SHBG in a while but I know it's high because my total

testosterone is high but my free is fine. BUT taking testosterone actually

raised my SHBG, so I can't say it it high just from t3. I am not sure I would

worry about the SHBG because t3 is supposed to raise it, and if you converted

properly, wouldn't the t3 that was made from t4 also raise SHBG? Sorry, I don't

much about that one!!

I think sharing stories is great so we know we're not alone!

Kathleen

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I don't think the t4 is the issue with libido. It's the HC that lowers your

testosterone so much and that can put your libido in the gutter. Not to mention

many of us had crappy testosterone to begin with. Also, I would think that if

you need estrogen (for libido or whatever), you would just have to take more to

get the same effect, but it wouldn't hurt anything. I mean, if your SHGB is

high, you just need more of the hormone to get the free up, that's all.

Kathleen

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