Re: Slow Release T3 success?

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Thanks Pam I will do. I just found a couple of older MCV results and they were

93 and 89 so I think they're ok as well. I will continue on with my

supplementing but do you think dropping from the current 4000mcg to 2000mcg

would be sustainable once my results are back up at say 900 to 1000?

Thanks for highlighting the B12 and MCV to me. Just another piece in this

confusing jigsaw.

Kindest regards

Wayne

>

> Hi Wayne,

>

> Yes, your MCV is very good. So just keep supp'ing B12 and folic acid.

>

> Pam

>

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Yes.

[Guest guest]

Howdy Wayne

I have gone through your posts here & on Adrenals group & have sent you a

detailed email with comments.

I will point out here though the following...

1/ Cortisol Saliva testing.

major point is your results are INVALID because you only stopped adaptogens the

day of the test. You need to be off at least TWO WEEKS to get valid results.

In addition the ranges on your midday test are incorrect. if you look at your

chart of results you will see that the range is 2-15 NOT 0-11

2/ Saliva Sex Hormone results

again ALL the saliva Sex Hormones tests are also INVALID as you only stopped

DHEA 13 days before the test (it takes 6-8 weeks for Sex Hormone levels to

return to " baseline " ).

In addition Saliva Labs for DHEAS & Testosterone are NOT reliable

these need to be tested in blood .

3/ Thyroid results

Note your Labs Range of 10-20 for Ft4 is VERY LOW. Ft3 Range of 2.8-6.8 is low

too.

Unfortunately many Labs are reducing their ranges... perhaps a reflection of

the Hypothyroid population they test? Probably a desire to limit the dx of

Hypothyroid itself (but then I'm a cycnic).

Australian Royal College of Pathologists of Australia manual shows...

i)RCPA range for Ft4 is 10-25 (and up to 35 if on T4 replacement)

http://www.rcpamanual.edu.au/index.php?option=com_pttests&task=show_test&id=609&\

Itemid=77

ii) RCPA ranges for Ft3 are 4-8

http://www.rcpamanual.edu.au/index.php?option=com_pttests&task=show_test&id=622&\

Itemid=77

Therefore your results of Ft4 17 & Ft3 4.8-5 are certainly NOT high & are in

fact quite LOW in range.

Australian Ranges for Reverse T3 also seem to be VERY high. However as its the

Ft3/Rt3 RATIO that's the important factor & yours at 10.8 is far too low leaving

you functionally Hypothyroid. Note there is NO point testing Rt3 on it's own.

You need to test Rt3 at the same time.

You definitely have Hashi's as evidenced by positive (in range) TPO & Tg Abs.

You are also Secondary Hypothyroid (Hypopit) as evidenced by very low TSH for

Thyroid.

You may very well have some Graves (Hyperthyroid) Abs as well. This is on fact

VERY common to have some of both (despite what docs will tell you). I see little

point in testing for them. You already know you are Autoimmune Hypothyroid.

4) Aldosterone & Renin

your Aldosterone results ARE low at 190 (10% in range) & 440 (40% in range). My

Aldo was also low.

Renin is elevated or high in range. As were mine & I had reactive high BP & HR.

These are similar to my results & I have done very well on Sodium supps &

Florinef. My BP is much better & HR reduced as well.

Your Sodium is definitely suboptimal & I consider the Potassium of 4.8 in a

range of 3.5-5 EXCELLENT. This will drop if Sodium & Magnesium are increased &

you will need to watch that.

5) High in range Calcium

I certainly WOULD be concerned about this. have you had Ionised & Corrected

Calcium tested?

I would immediately stop any supps containing Calcium.

In addition would give HIGH priority to optimising RBC Magnesium (I know you

recently started Ancient minerals oil) this will help keep Calcium optimal

(midrange).

I would also ensure you take plenty of Vit A (NOT Carotenes), K2 & Vit E as they

ALL work together with Vit D & Mag to optimise Calcium metabolism.

Regarding your questions below....

-Chelorex sorry not impressed with this product. I am on better single

ingredient products which allow for maximum flexibility & cost effectiveness.

-Arimadex is NOT expensive if you consider that a single script will last you at

least 30 weeks at 1 tab a week or longer if you need less.

-Chrysin I don't recommend at all. I found info which suggests that it may well

interfere with T4=>T3 conversion. My Hubby was dxed it too but he never took it

as I researched it beforehand. We asked for & received rx for Arimadex instead.

- Hashi's heriditary

yes I believe (as do others) that there is a STRONG genetic component to

Endocrine & Autoimmune conditions. My sons & I all have a single MTHFR C677T

mutation which affects methylation (Detox) cycle. So we are all on ACTIVE B Vit

forms (especially Folate/B12/B6) to work around that). It is in fact a VERY

common mutation (up to 40% of population has it. We are all Hypopit to varying

degrees. Hubby & I also have problems with Iron loading.

-Thyroid (aka Thyroxine) Binding Globulin (TBG) is a simple blood test. However

I am unsure of it's availability in Australia. I know it is offered by SOME labs

in USA (eg. Quest). However to get some indication whether yours is high or low

you could test Total T3, Free T3, Total T4, Free T4 at same time.

- Flaxseed oil & seeds

I strongly suggest you stop using this. Flax is a goitrogen & is NOT healthy

choice. Coconut Oil (virgin organic) would be better.

See this thread ...

Flaxseed bad for your Thyroid?

http://forums.realthyroidhelp.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=17365&p=141218#p141218

Lethal Lee

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Who amongst us here has used " Slow Release T3 " and what have

been

> > > > > > > > the experiences and outcomes? The reason I pose the question is

that

> > > > > > > > both my Naturopath and my Compounding Pharmacist are both

strongly

> > > > > > > > suggesting SRT3 as the way to go. So any feedback would be

great.

> > > > > > > > > > My FT3/RT3 ratio is 10.82

> > > > > > > > > > Wayne

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Howdy Wayne

I have gone through your posts here & on Adrenals group & have sent you a

detailed email with comments.

I will point out here though the following...

1/ Cortisol Saliva testing.

major point is your results are INVALID because you only stopped adaptogens the

day of the test. You need to be off at least TWO WEEKS to get valid results.

In addition the ranges on your midday test are incorrect. if you look at your

chart of results you will see that the range is 2-15 NOT 0-11

2/ Saliva Sex Hormone results

again ALL the saliva Sex Hormones tests are also INVALID as you only stopped

DHEA 13 days before the test (it takes 6-8 weeks for Sex Hormone levels to

return to " baseline " ).

In addition Saliva Labs for DHEAS & Testosterone are NOT reliable

these need to be tested in blood .

3/ Thyroid results

Note your Labs Range of 10-20 for Ft4 is VERY LOW. Ft3 Range of 2.8-6.8 is low

too.

Unfortunately many Labs are reducing their ranges... perhaps a reflection of

the Hypothyroid population they test? Probably a desire to limit the dx of

Hypothyroid itself (but then I'm a cycnic).

Australian Royal College of Pathologists of Australia manual shows...

i)RCPA range for Ft4 is 10-25 (and up to 35 if on T4 replacement)

http://www.rcpamanual.edu.au/index.php?option=com_pttests&task=show_test&id=609&\

Itemid=77

ii) RCPA ranges for Ft3 are 4-8

http://www.rcpamanual.edu.au/index.php?option=com_pttests&task=show_test&id=622&\

Itemid=77

Therefore your results of Ft4 17 & Ft3 4.8-5 are certainly NOT high & are in

fact quite LOW in range.

Australian Ranges for Reverse T3 also seem to be VERY high. However as its the

Ft3/Rt3 RATIO that's the important factor & yours at 10.8 is far too low leaving

you functionally Hypothyroid. Note there is NO point testing Rt3 on it's own.

You need to test Rt3 at the same time.

You definitely have Hashi's as evidenced by positive (in range) TPO & Tg Abs.

You are also Secondary Hypothyroid (Hypopit) as evidenced by very low TSH for

Thyroid.

You may very well have some Graves (Hyperthyroid) Abs as well. This is on fact

VERY common to have some of both (despite what docs will tell you). I see little

point in testing for them. You already know you are Autoimmune Hypothyroid.

4) Aldosterone & Renin

your Aldosterone results ARE low at 190 (10% in range) & 440 (40% in range). My

Aldo was also low.

Renin is elevated or high in range. As were mine & I had reactive high BP & HR.

These are similar to my results & I have done very well on Sodium supps &

Florinef. My BP is much better & HR reduced as well.

Your Sodium is definitely suboptimal & I consider the Potassium of 4.8 in a

range of 3.5-5 EXCELLENT. This will drop if Sodium & Magnesium are increased &

you will need to watch that.

5) High in range Calcium

I certainly WOULD be concerned about this. have you had Ionised & Corrected

Calcium tested?

I would immediately stop any supps containing Calcium.

In addition would give HIGH priority to optimising RBC Magnesium (I know you

recently started Ancient minerals oil) this will help keep Calcium optimal

(midrange).

I would also ensure you take plenty of Vit A (NOT Carotenes), K2 & Vit E as they

ALL work together with Vit D & Mag to optimise Calcium metabolism.

Regarding your questions below....

-Chelorex sorry not impressed with this product. I am on better single

ingredient products which allow for maximum flexibility & cost effectiveness.

-Arimadex is NOT expensive if you consider that a single script will last you at

least 30 weeks at 1 tab a week or longer if you need less.

-Chrysin I don't recommend at all. I found info which suggests that it may well

interfere with T4=>T3 conversion. My Hubby was dxed it too but he never took it

as I researched it beforehand. We asked for & received rx for Arimadex instead.

- Hashi's heriditary

yes I believe (as do others) that there is a STRONG genetic component to

Endocrine & Autoimmune conditions. My sons & I all have a single MTHFR C677T

mutation which affects methylation (Detox) cycle. So we are all on ACTIVE B Vit

forms (especially Folate/B12/B6) to work around that). It is in fact a VERY

common mutation (up to 40% of population has it. We are all Hypopit to varying

degrees. Hubby & I also have problems with Iron loading.

-Thyroid (aka Thyroxine) Binding Globulin (TBG) is a simple blood test. However

I am unsure of it's availability in Australia. I know it is offered by SOME labs

in USA (eg. Quest). However to get some indication whether yours is high or low

you could test Total T3, Free T3, Total T4, Free T4 at same time.

- Flaxseed oil & seeds

I strongly suggest you stop using this. Flax is a goitrogen & is NOT healthy

choice. Coconut Oil (virgin organic) would be better.

See this thread ...

Flaxseed bad for your Thyroid?

http://forums.realthyroidhelp.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=17365&p=141218#p141218

Lethal Lee

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Who amongst us here has used " Slow Release T3 " and what have

been

> > > > > > > > the experiences and outcomes? The reason I pose the question is

that

> > > > > > > > both my Naturopath and my Compounding Pharmacist are both

strongly

> > > > > > > > suggesting SRT3 as the way to go. So any feedback would be

great.

> > > > > > > > > > My FT3/RT3 ratio is 10.82

> > > > > > > > > > Wayne

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Howdy Wayne

I have gone through your posts here & on Adrenals group & have sent you a

detailed email with comments.

I will point out here though the following...

1/ Cortisol Saliva testing.

major point is your results are INVALID because you only stopped adaptogens the

day of the test. You need to be off at least TWO WEEKS to get valid results.

In addition the ranges on your midday test are incorrect. if you look at your

chart of results you will see that the range is 2-15 NOT 0-11

2/ Saliva Sex Hormone results

again ALL the saliva Sex Hormones tests are also INVALID as you only stopped

DHEA 13 days before the test (it takes 6-8 weeks for Sex Hormone levels to

return to " baseline " ).

In addition Saliva Labs for DHEAS & Testosterone are NOT reliable

these need to be tested in blood .

3/ Thyroid results

Note your Labs Range of 10-20 for Ft4 is VERY LOW. Ft3 Range of 2.8-6.8 is low

too.

Unfortunately many Labs are reducing their ranges... perhaps a reflection of

the Hypothyroid population they test? Probably a desire to limit the dx of

Hypothyroid itself (but then I'm a cycnic).

Australian Royal College of Pathologists of Australia manual shows...

i)RCPA range for Ft4 is 10-25 (and up to 35 if on T4 replacement)

http://www.rcpamanual.edu.au/index.php?option=com_pttests&task=show_test&id=609&\

Itemid=77

ii) RCPA ranges for Ft3 are 4-8

http://www.rcpamanual.edu.au/index.php?option=com_pttests&task=show_test&id=622&\

Itemid=77

Therefore your results of Ft4 17 & Ft3 4.8-5 are certainly NOT high & are in

fact quite LOW in range.

Australian Ranges for Reverse T3 also seem to be VERY high. However as its the

Ft3/Rt3 RATIO that's the important factor & yours at 10.8 is far too low leaving

you functionally Hypothyroid. Note there is NO point testing Rt3 on it's own.

You need to test Rt3 at the same time.

You definitely have Hashi's as evidenced by positive (in range) TPO & Tg Abs.

You are also Secondary Hypothyroid (Hypopit) as evidenced by very low TSH for

Thyroid.

You may very well have some Graves (Hyperthyroid) Abs as well. This is on fact

VERY common to have some of both (despite what docs will tell you). I see little

point in testing for them. You already know you are Autoimmune Hypothyroid.

4) Aldosterone & Renin

your Aldosterone results ARE low at 190 (10% in range) & 440 (40% in range). My

Aldo was also low.

Renin is elevated or high in range. As were mine & I had reactive high BP & HR.

These are similar to my results & I have done very well on Sodium supps &

Florinef. My BP is much better & HR reduced as well.

Your Sodium is definitely suboptimal & I consider the Potassium of 4.8 in a

range of 3.5-5 EXCELLENT. This will drop if Sodium & Magnesium are increased &

you will need to watch that.

5) High in range Calcium

I certainly WOULD be concerned about this. have you had Ionised & Corrected

Calcium tested?

I would immediately stop any supps containing Calcium.

In addition would give HIGH priority to optimising RBC Magnesium (I know you

recently started Ancient minerals oil) this will help keep Calcium optimal

(midrange).

I would also ensure you take plenty of Vit A (NOT Carotenes), K2 & Vit E as they

ALL work together with Vit D & Mag to optimise Calcium metabolism.

Regarding your questions below....

-Chelorex sorry not impressed with this product. I am on better single

ingredient products which allow for maximum flexibility & cost effectiveness.

-Arimadex is NOT expensive if you consider that a single script will last you at

least 30 weeks at 1 tab a week or longer if you need less.

-Chrysin I don't recommend at all. I found info which suggests that it may well

interfere with T4=>T3 conversion. My Hubby was dxed it too but he never took it

as I researched it beforehand. We asked for & received rx for Arimadex instead.

- Hashi's heriditary

yes I believe (as do others) that there is a STRONG genetic component to

Endocrine & Autoimmune conditions. My sons & I all have a single MTHFR C677T

mutation which affects methylation (Detox) cycle. So we are all on ACTIVE B Vit

forms (especially Folate/B12/B6) to work around that). It is in fact a VERY

common mutation (up to 40% of population has it. We are all Hypopit to varying

degrees. Hubby & I also have problems with Iron loading.

-Thyroid (aka Thyroxine) Binding Globulin (TBG) is a simple blood test. However

I am unsure of it's availability in Australia. I know it is offered by SOME labs

in USA (eg. Quest). However to get some indication whether yours is high or low

you could test Total T3, Free T3, Total T4, Free T4 at same time.

- Flaxseed oil & seeds

I strongly suggest you stop using this. Flax is a goitrogen & is NOT healthy

choice. Coconut Oil (virgin organic) would be better.

See this thread ...

Flaxseed bad for your Thyroid?

http://forums.realthyroidhelp.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=17365&p=141218#p141218

Lethal Lee

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Who amongst us here has used " Slow Release T3 " and what have

been

> > > > > > > > the experiences and outcomes? The reason I pose the question is

that

> > > > > > > > both my Naturopath and my Compounding Pharmacist are both

strongly

> > > > > > > > suggesting SRT3 as the way to go. So any feedback would be

great.

> > > > > > > > > > My FT3/RT3 ratio is 10.82

> > > > > > > > > > Wayne

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

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