Guest guest Posted August 9, 2010 Report Share Posted August 9, 2010 Your T3 could still go hihger as it s not supressing your T4 well. I would get a sublingual B12 supplement. I use 1mg methycobalamin from Puritain Pride, which is very high dose but it had brought me form dirt to over 1000 in about 6 months. http://www.nthadrenalsweb.com http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://faqhelp.webs.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/ http://artisticgrooming.net/ > Hi Everyone, > > I am in my 12th week of T3 treatment for a reverse t3 issue (ratio 11). Still no clearance as yet, as far as I can tell, but definite improvement. Pulse often high, temps still a bit low - even just before my period. I will post more on this in another topic. I'm not overly concerned as I am feeling a lot better in many ways. > > Here are my latest lab results - I have posted the adrenals and female hormones, DHEA and testosterone results in the NTH ADRENALS group. I think my cortisol levels are ok, possibly still a bit too high but they have come down since I have started on T3 and had my implanon contraceptive implant taken out - I will let you know if the adrenals group thinks otherwise. > > Here are my latest results. Please let me know your opinion or if you think there is anything I need to be changing. > > My last thyroid function tests, approx 1 month after commencing T3 - 07/JUNE/2010 > > TSH:<0.05 mU/L (0.40-4.00) > free T4: 6 pmol/L (10-20) > free T3: 7.2 pmol/L (2.8-6.8) > Reverse T3 Result has not come back yet due to being out of the reagent being used for the test. > > Iron Studies 03/MARCH/2010 > > Iron: 23 umol/l (10-33) > TIBC: 55 umol/L (45-70) > Saturation: 42% (16-50) > Ferritin: 73 ug/L (15-290) > > Ferritin 07/JUNE/2010: 107 ug/L (15-290) - without taking any supplements! > > B12 - 03/MARCH/2010: 306 (162-811) > B12 - 07/JUNE/2010: 534 > B12 - 07/JULY/2010: 459 pmol/L > > Obviously my B12 is a major problem and I think it's related to my probably candida overgrowth in the gut/leaky gut (proven by test) and low acid stomach. Low B12 also runs in the family (my Granddad had to get injections for it and Mum has had it). I have been taking a B-Complex called 'Methyl Max' and have doubled it since getting that B12 result back. > > http://www.bioceuticals.com.au/product.aspx?function=displayproduct&productid=19\ 6 > > I am considering taking sublingual B12 however, most of them contain the less easily absorbed form of B12 and the Jarrow one is apparently illegal to import to Australia now because it contains xylitol?! Any other suggestions as to what I could do about this? > > Folate - 03/MARCH/2010: 804 (545-3370) > Folate - 07/JUNE/2010: 1085 > Folate - 07/JULY/2010: 1087 > > Taking a supplement for this in the Methyl Max B complex. > > Homocysyeine - 03/MARCH/2010: 7.5 umol/L (0.0 - 15.0) > > Vit D - 03/MARCH/2010: 65 nmol/L (50-300) > Vit D - 07/JUNE/2010: 140 nmol/L (50-300) - Since taking D3 drops > > Red Blood Cell Magnesium: 6.6 umol/L Hb (5.2-7.5) - Supplementing with high doses of magnesium then using magnesium oil has helped get this level up, I feel. I have noticed a difference and have felt much better since using the oil. > > Serum Lithium 11/Dec/2010: 0.8 (0.5-1) - VERY sick with hypothyroidism - forced to go home to Australia from Denmark for treatment. This was taken a few days after my return. > > Serum Lithium 07/JULY/2010:<0.2 mmol/L (I lowered it by 1 tablet and the level dropped considerably - I worried about getting depressed so went back onto 2 tablets despite the fact my doc thinks I was ok on the 1). > > Serum Lithium 23/JULY/2010: 0.4 mmol/L (0.5-1) - Doctor thinks I can come off this now. I still take 2x450mg lithium carbonate tablets a day, made by none other than GSK! (I suffered on GSK Eltroxin for 6 months) > > Electrolytes > > Sodium: > 11/DEC/09 - 139 mmol/L (137-147) > 03/MAR/10 - 139 > 07/JUL/10 - 141 (Since taking 1/4 tsp sea salt twice daily?) > > Potassium: > 11/DEC/09 - 4.4 mmol/L (3.5-5.0) > 03/MAR/10 - 4.6 > 07/JUL/10 - 4.5 > > Chloride: > 11/DEC/09 - 106 mmol/L (96-109) > 03/MAR/10 - 102 > 07/JUL/10 - 106 > > Bicarb: > 11/DEC/09 - 25 mmol/L (25-33) > 03/MAR/10 - 28 > 07/JUL/10 - 24 > > Albumin: > 03/MAR/10 - 43 g/L (35-50) > 07/JUL/10 - 40 > > Phos: > 03/MAR/10 - 1.1 mmol/L > 07/JUL/10 - > > Calcium > 11/DEC/09 - 2.35 > 03/MAR/10 - 2.50 > 07/JUL/10 - 2.25 > 24/JUL/10 - 2.56 > > Corrected Calcium > 11/DEC/09 - 2.36 > 03/MAR/10 - 2.49 > 07/JUL/10 - 2.32 > 24/JUL/10 - 2.52 > > 11/DEC/2010 > Ionized Calcium - 1.29 > pH - 7.39 > Ionized Calcium (adjusted to pH 7.4) - 1.28 (1.20-1.30) - It was noted that this was high normal. > > Others tested at least twich - all in normal range: An.Gap, Gluc, Urea, Creat,eGFR, Urate, T.Bili, Alk.P, GGT, ALT, AST, LD, T.Prot,Glob, Chol, Trig except Chol (whatever that is) - it was 3.4mmol/L (3.6-6.7) on 07/JULY/2010 > > Parathyroid Hormone: > > 11/DEC/09 - 34 ng/L (14-72) > 07/JUL/10 - 12 ng/L (14-72) > 24/JUL/10 - 20 ng/L (14-72) > > I was worried about getting hyperparathyroidism - common for long term lithium users - it seems when I had low lithium levels, the parathyroid hormone dropped right down. Off topic but interesting. > > Anyways, must go. Please let me know if there is anything I could do or change. > > Thank you! > > Alana > > > > ------------------------------------ > > We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor. Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2010 Report Share Posted August 9, 2010 Hi Val, Thanks again for your input. I imagine my T3 results would be much better now - that test was taken quite early on (I think I was up to 90mcg) and right after I had to go without T3 for 3 days as my doctor did not write me a script as promised! :S I was so annoyed. I had to start from 50mcg again. I've been on 95mcg for 9 weeks since that result was taken. I will get it test again next week. I'm not sure about increasing my T3 any more because it also looks like I have non-optimal cortisol now - you commented on my adrenal test results in the NTH ADRENALS group, that the saliva test results did not look reliable as the ranges were bad and I had high saliva cortisol in the morning when the blood test showed it was low in the range when taken on the same day. Still having a panic about that! :S hehe. Thanks for the B12 suggestion - I will keep it in mind. I like the idea of sublingual B12. Alana > > Your T3 could still go hihger as it s not supressing your T4 well. I > would get a sublingual B12 supplement. I use 1mg methycobalamin from > Puritain Pride, which is very high dose but it had brought me form dirt > to over 1000 in about 6 months. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 Hi Val, I posted my temps in the NTH ADRENALS group - they average 36.8 over 6 days - practically no fluctuation between the days - and we decided my adrenals were functioning well but a little low. My basal temps are also low most days (from 36.0 to 36.6). Here are my latest thyroid function test results (I just gone my June reverse T3 result back today): 7th JUNE 2010 (Week 4 on T3 only Treatment): TSH - <0.05 mU/L (0.40-4.00) Free T4 - 6 pmol/L (10-20) Free T3 - 7.2 pmol/L (2.8-6-8) Reverse T3 - 122 pmol/L (170-450) I am now in Week 14 of my T3 only treatment. I noticed a significant improvement in my symptoms about 3 weeks ago - many of the hypothyroid symptoms have improved (too many to go into now - feel a lot better, especially brain fog and general anxiety and swelling in ankles and legs and ability to stand for long periods of time and low mood and ability to focus and concentrate and read and write for extended periods of time) - but no high temps as yet (except 1 day when it was 37.1). Pulse is often high, above 90 (I have low/normal sodium and take 1/4 tsp sea salt twice daily. I am also fighting low b12 - it's around 500 at the moment. Symptoms that bother me the most are fatigue (one big day still results in at least 1 full rest day - still getting pm fatigue and still have trouble cooking dinner), anxiety/worry about the future (although lessened), bad pmt (worsening of anxiety, irritability and low mood), occasional heart palps and high pulse. I am being tested for low aldosterone (I have salt cravings, occasional light headedness when standing, palps, high pulse,urinate at least 2 times a night etc). Another round of thyroid function tests has been ordered today. Should I try and increase my T3, or should I keep waiting for proper clearance? Anything else? Thanks for your help. Alana > > > > Your T3 could still go hihger as it s not supressing your T4 well. I > > would get a sublingual B12 supplement. I use 1mg methycobalamin from > > Puritain Pride, which is very high dose but it had brought me form dirt > > to over 1000 in about 6 months. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 I would hold til you get aldosterone testing. I believe it may well be the low sodium inside the cells causing the higher pulse but we shoudl be sure before pushign more T3 which cna raise it further. B12 shoudl also be optimal, are you taking enough to raise it? I found 1MG sublingual B12 at Puritain Pride Vitamins and it has really raised mine which kind of hung at 6-700 for a long time and now is over 1000 like it shiuld be. http://www.nthadrenalsweb.com http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://faqhelp.webs.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/ http://artisticgrooming.net/ > Hi Val, I posted my temps in the NTH ADRENALS group - they average 36.8 over 6 days - practically no fluctuation between the days - and we decided my adrenals were functioning well but a little low. My basal temps are also low most days (from 36.0 to 36.6). Here are my latest thyroid function test results (I just gone my June reverse T3 result back today): > > 7th JUNE 2010 (Week 4 on T3 only Treatment): > TSH -<0.05 mU/L (0.40-4.00) > Free T4 - 6 pmol/L (10-20) > Free T3 - 7.2 pmol/L (2.8-6-8) > Reverse T3 - 122 pmol/L (170-450) > > I am now in Week 14 of my T3 only treatment. I noticed a significant improvement in my symptoms about 3 weeks ago - many of the hypothyroid symptoms have improved (too many to go into now - feel a lot better, especially brain fog and general anxiety and swelling in ankles and legs and ability to stand for long periods of time and low mood and ability to focus and concentrate and read and write for extended periods of time) - but no high temps as yet (except 1 day when it was 37.1). > > Pulse is often high, above 90 (I have low/normal sodium and take 1/4 tsp sea salt twice daily. I am also fighting low b12 - it's around 500 at the moment. > > Symptoms that bother me the most are fatigue (one big day still results in at least 1 full rest day - still getting pm fatigue and still have trouble cooking dinner), anxiety/worry about the future (although lessened), bad pmt (worsening of anxiety, irritability and low mood), occasional heart palps and high pulse. > > I am being tested for low aldosterone (I have salt cravings, occasional light headedness when standing, palps, high pulse,urinate at least 2 times a night etc). > > Another round of thyroid function tests has been ordered today. > > Should I try and increase my T3, or should I keep waiting for proper clearance? Anything else? > > Thanks for your help. > > Alana > > >>> Your T3 could still go hihger as it s not supressing your T4 well. I >>> would get a sublingual B12 supplement. I use 1mg methycobalamin from >>> Puritain Pride, which is very high dose but it had brought me form dirt >>> to over 1000 in about 6 months. >>> >>> > > > > ------------------------------------ > > We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor. Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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