Re: going off T3, starting T4 an option? I feel terrible./temps

August 11, 2010

Again, I am not quite up to snuff on how the temps in the 30's translate to the temps in the 90's....I need a conversion chart i think. But your temps don't seem that irregular. They are not supposed to be rock solid on the same number all day. But usually similar upon waking and similar at various parts of the day. the tip off of adrenal weakness is when they drop when you have activity or stress or after you take the T3...as far as i understand it. also one of the simple tests on STTM site is to go in a dark room with a mirrow and shine a flashlight on your eye. If your pupil can't hold the contraction and it opens and closes with the light on it then your adrenals are weak.

That is why i don't want to do fewer doses of the T3. i am doing 5 doses about 3 hours apart...I do like Nick suggested and i split the pills the night before and then carry the daily dose with me. i also set the alarm on my cell phone when i know I will be busy or possibly distracted to maybe forget a dose. I can certainly tell when i need an increase as the hypo symptoms creep up, and my temps dip. Right now my temps are still lower than when i had been optimized on my NDT before the RT3 problem....so i know I am not high enough....but I am doing it slowly....just 6.25 increase every 3 days at the earliest. I am doing this so as not to tax my adrenals. I know I have been under an incredible amount of stress since my mom has been in the hospital and we have had a lot going on, so i upped my adrenal glandular (like your isocort) and am not excercising right now. if I feel a bit better in another week i may resume weight

lifting at home with some stretching, etc.

If you up your dose and temps drop try upping the isocort. What about your D3 and B12? The fact you are having trouble sleeping really made me think of the sex hormones. When I don't have enough estrogen I can't sleep and I can't stay asleep....bad brain fog. many people do not know that the menopausal symptoms mimic the hypo thyroid symptoms so your really do have to test both to get a clear picture. I don't need a lot of estrogen but I need more than the typical .5mg 2X a day with progesterone.

I hope you can hang in there and figure out what will work for you so you can clear your Rt3 problem successfully. It is good you have people Like Nick and Val to talk to.

Sharon

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Subject: Re: going off T3, starting T4 an option? I feel terrible.To: RT3_T3 Date: Wednesday, August 11, 2010, 6:45 PM

You see I have not too stable tempos or rather low temps, so this is where I'm confused whether I should up my meds or not......... .when I started pre-T3 my iron was 104 and i do take 4 bluebonnet tabs/day.... ...with my adrenals i had saliva test, albeit while I was on isocort, and 2 docs told me i should get off adrenal support, that i didn't need it........they knew i was taking isocort. Anyway I didn't listen to them and stayed on it because my adrenals looked ok because I was on adrenal support..... ......so I still confused.... ....

From: sandra weisenthal <interart81 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>Subject: going off T3, starting T4 an option? I feel terrible.To: RT3_T3 (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) comDate: Wednesday, August 11, 2010, 2:14 PM

I am thinking to cut back on the T3 and start to add a little T4 nature-thyroid because I have never felt as bad as this, I am exhausted, I feel terrible, I feel like I am going to fall asleep, I wake up groggy, my hair is very dry, I just feel terrible. It is my 5th week, I am on 62.5mcg, I am not going to take my 1PM dose, and going to go off it little by little because I have never felt this bad......... ..I'm going to get hysterical, I don't know what to do really...... ...

August 12, 2010

Thanks very much for your time in responding. I didn't sleep well last night again, and my heart is racing a lot. I am trying to purchase something to measure the pulse. I read Nick's 2 options, and thought I would first try reducing my T3 dose between today and tomorrow to around 50 and upping my isocort to 5-4-1 and see if that works....I am almost 6 weeks into this so I am going to stick to this protocol to see and hope that it works for me. One thing that Dr. Kharrazian told me is that it is essential that all hashisotos go on a strick gluten-free diet. My lab tests showed I didn't have a gluten problem but he said those tests are not conclusive and the only real way to test this is through some stool test.........there are so many things you should do and shouldn't do, should take and should not take, should eat and not

eat, it is almost impossible to keep track of everything.........

From: sandra weisenthal <interart81 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>Subject: going off T3, starting T4 an option? I feel terrible.To: RT3_T3 (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) comDate: Wednesday, August 11, 2010, 2:14 PM

I am thinking to cut back on the T3 and start to add a little T4 nature-thyroid because I have never felt as bad as this, I am exhausted, I feel terrible, I feel like I am going to fall asleep, I wake up groggy, my hair is very dry, I just feel terrible. It is my 5th week, I am on 62.5mcg, I am not going to take my 1PM dose, and going to go off it little by little because I have never felt this bad......... ..I'm going to get hysterical, I don't know what to do really...... ...

August 12, 2010

>Thanks very much for your time in responding. I didn't sleep well last night

again, and my heart is racing a lot. I am trying to purchase something to

measure the pulse

Feel for it with the fingers of one hand on inside of the wrist of the

other

Use a watch to time it and count how many there are in 15 seconds,

multiply that by 4 and it's your pulse rate. You don't need to buy

anything

If you double click the clock on your computer you get one come up

with a second hand, easy and nearby

Nick

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August 12, 2010

>One thing that Dr. Kharrazian told me is that it is essential that all

hashisotos go on a strick gluten-free diet. My lab tests showed I didn't have a

gluten problem but he said those tests are not conclusive and the only real way

to test this is through some stool test.........there are so many things you

should do and shouldn't do, should take and should not take, should eat and not

eat, it is almost impossible to keep track of everything.........

That's a new one on me, there are plenty of hashi people out there

without Gluten issues

Nick

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August 12, 2010

I have his book and he is all about being gluten free. I understand what he is saying all gluten is bad and it doesn't matter if your having a problem or not. His idea of being gluten free is really hard for me too. He says you can't have any. I like mexican food and the flour tortilla so i've not been able to go free yet. I am trying to cut back. I do have hashi and i'm on T3 and adrenal support. Still having some problems with GERD and irritability. Any one got and ideas to help?Thanks Cindy To: RT3_T3 Sent: Thu, August 12, 2010 12:07:52 PMSubject: Re: going off T3, starting T4 an option? I feel terrible./temps

>One thing that Dr. Kharrazian told me is that it is essential that all hashisotos go on a strick gluten-free diet. My lab tests showed I didn't have a gluten problem but he said those tests are not conclusive and the only real way to test this is through some stool test.........there are so many things you should do and shouldn't do, should take and should not take, should eat and not eat, it is almost impossible to keep track of everything.........

That's a new one on me, there are plenty of hashi people out there

without Gluten issues

Nick

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August 12, 2010

I cut out gluten and sugar and it really helped the healing process for me. I

didn't come up gluten intolerant on bloodtests-only stool testing revealed I had

a problem.

I was really bummed to have to cut out that stuff, but it really helped.

Liz

>

> >One thing that Dr. Kharrazian told me is that it is essential that all

> >hashisotos go on a strick gluten-free diet. My lab tests showed I didn't

have a

> >gluten problem but he said those tests are not conclusive and the only real

way

> >to test this is through some stool test.........there are so many things you

> >should do and shouldn't do, should take and should not take, should eat and

not

> >eat, it is almost impossible to keep track of everything.........

>

> That's a new one on me, there are plenty of hashi people out there

> without Gluten issues

>

> Nick

>

> --

>

> for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

>

> www.thyroid-rt3.com

>

August 12, 2010

I cut out gluten and sugar and it really helped the healing process for me. I

didn't come up gluten intolerant on bloodtests-only stool testing revealed I had

a problem.

I was really bummed to have to cut out that stuff, but it really helped.

Liz

>

> >One thing that Dr. Kharrazian told me is that it is essential that all

> >hashisotos go on a strick gluten-free diet. My lab tests showed I didn't

have a

> >gluten problem but he said those tests are not conclusive and the only real

way

> >to test this is through some stool test.........there are so many things you

> >should do and shouldn't do, should take and should not take, should eat and

not

> >eat, it is almost impossible to keep track of everything.........

>

> That's a new one on me, there are plenty of hashi people out there

> without Gluten issues

>

> Nick

>

> --

>

> for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

>

> www.thyroid-rt3.com

>

August 12, 2010

> His idea of being gluten free is really hard for me too. He says you can't

> have any. I like mexican food and the flour tortilla so i've not been able to

> go free yet. I am trying to cut back. I do have hashi and i'm on T3

> and adrenal support. Still having some problems with GERD and irritability.

Yes - go completely gluten free. Use Mission white corn tortilla shells instead

of flour tortilla shells. You have to get gluten completely out of your system.

There are tons of resources out there to help you. For the GERD try the baking

soda test, the next time you get indigestion, drink a teaspoon of baking soda

dissolved in water - if it resolves the problem you need HCL. It means you

don't have enough stomach acid. As far as the irritability, while eating gluten

I had terrible irritability and an inability to control my temper ... without

gluten I'm a much nicer person.

If I get " glutened " it takes 7 days to get over the symptoms and a month for my

system to get over the inflammation. If you try it and feel better you may find

that it is easier to stick with than you thought.

Peaches_II

August 12, 2010

Thanks Peaches, I live in Mx and always eat corn tortillas rather than flour tortillas....I suppose I can't eat any whole wheat breads though? I don't like the taste of gluten free breads....I suppose I just have to condition myself; I didn't want to eat dairy either, I don't eat meat (chicken sometimes), so it doesn't leave me too many choices.........but I will give it a try. I really have to do something. I'm going to try that with GERD, I have to clear my throat a lot.......

Subject: Re: going off T3, starting T4 an option? I feel terrible./tempsTo: RT3_T3 Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 7:45 PM

> His idea of being gluten free is really hard for me too. He says you can't > have any. I like mexican food and the flour tortilla so i've not been able to > go free yet. I am trying to cut back. I do have hashi and i'm on T3 > and adrenal support. Still having some problems with GERD and irritability. Yes - go completely gluten free. Use Mission white corn tortilla shells instead of flour tortilla shells. You have to get gluten completely out of your system. There are tons of resources out there to help you. For the GERD try the baking soda test, the next time you get indigestion, drink a teaspoon of baking soda dissolved in water - if it resolves the problem you need HCL. It means you don't have enough stomach acid. As far as the irritability, while eating gluten I had terrible irritability and an inability to control my temper ... without gluten I'm a much nicer person.If I get "glutened" it takes 7

days to get over the symptoms and a month for my system to get over the inflammation. If you try it and feel better you may find that it is easier to stick with than you thought.Peaches_II

August 12, 2010

Liz, how exactly did it help? What is the name of that stool test ? So you don't eat any sugars at all, not brown sugar, nothing? grrr.............S.

Subject: Re: going off T3, starting T4 an option? I feel terrible./tempsTo: RT3_T3 Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 12:31 PM

I cut out gluten and sugar and it really helped the healing process for me. I didn't come up gluten intolerant on bloodtests-only stool testing revealed I had a problem.I was really bummed to have to cut out that stuff, but it really helped.Liz> > >One thing that Dr. Kharrazian told me is that it is essential that all > >hashisotos go on a strick gluten-free diet. My lab tests showed I didn't have a > >gluten problem but he said those tests are not conclusive and the only real way > >to test this is through some stool

test.........there are so many things you > >should do and shouldn't do, should take and should not take, should eat and not > >eat, it is almost impossible to keep track of everything.........> > That's a new one on me, there are plenty of hashi people out there> without Gluten issues> > Nick> > -- > > for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to > > www.thyroid-rt3.com>

August 12, 2010

maybe i was lucky in the sense that the symptoms I had with gluten were so bad that when i tried going gluten free the relief was so pervasive and profound that I just don't dare mess up. I used to have severe abdominal pain from gluten intollerance....IBS type issues and this weird blistering and pealing on my fingers that no doc was ever able to diagnose ...all of which went away when i went gluten free. Now if i get a contamination (usually in restaurants from something on the grill or from marinades that often have gluten in them...I always bring my own salad dressing) my hand will get a bit of the blistering peeling which is my warning that I got contaminated. and then yes, it takes about a week to clear up and i am not back to normal for 2 weeks or more. I also used to get chronic yeast infections and no more now being

gluten free. You have to read the ingredients on things like crazy because it is in things you would never suspect. Meatballs, marinades, salad dressings, deserts, some ice cream flavors, seasonings...all sorts of stuff.

Yeah there are subtitutes for things but I figure I don't need the extra starch anyway. I use oatmeal for my grain source and sometimes pure corn tacos. But I eat a lot of raw foods and lean protein, raw nuts, fresh fruits. Yeah you are probably always going to look wistfully at some stuff you used to eat but hopefully how much better you feel will make it worth it to stick with what you need.

It is definitely worth trying it whole heartedly and see how you feel. It is going to take a few weeks to notice the difference.

best of luck,

Sharon

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Subject: Re: Re: going off T3, starting T4 an option? I feel terrible./tempsTo: RT3_T3 Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 8:39 PM

Thanks Peaches, I live in Mx and always eat corn tortillas rather than flour tortillas....I suppose I can't eat any whole wheat breads though? I don't like the taste of gluten free breads....I suppose I just have to condition myself; I didn't want to eat dairy either, I don't eat meat (chicken sometimes), so it doesn't leave me too many choices.........but I will give it a try. I really have to do something. I'm going to try that with GERD, I have to clear my throat a lot.......

Subject: Re: going off T3, starting T4 an option? I feel terrible./tempsTo: RT3_T3 Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 7:45 PM

> His idea of being gluten free is really hard for me too. He says you can't > have any. I like mexican food and the flour tortilla so i've not been able to > go free yet. I am trying to cut back. I do have hashi and i'm on T3 > and adrenal support. Still having some problems with GERD and irritability. Yes - go completely gluten free. Use Mission white corn tortilla shells instead of flour tortilla shells. You have to get gluten completely out of your system. There are tons of resources out there to help you. For the GERD try the baking soda test, the next time you get indigestion, drink a teaspoon of baking soda dissolved in water - if it resolves the problem you need HCL. It means you don't have enough stomach acid. As far as the irritability, while eating gluten I had terrible irritability and an inability to control my temper ... without gluten I'm a much nicer person.If I get "glutened" it takes 7

days to get over the symptoms and a month for my system to get over the inflammation. If you try it and feel better you may find that it is easier to stick with than you thought.Peaches_II

August 12, 2010

Cutting back on sugar is definitely good for you. I do cheat once in a while..but overall I don't eat anything with sugar in the ingredients. I also do not use splenda as it has been shown to mess with hormonal balance. i only use stevia. natural sugars such as in fruit and even some small amounts such as in mollases or honey not as harmfull as refined sugar which spikes your blood sugar and floods your system with insulin.

worth the effort,

Sharon

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Subject: Re: Re: going off T3, starting T4 an option? I feel terrible./tempsTo: RT3_T3 Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 8:54 PM

Liz, how exactly did it help? What is the name of that stool test ? So you don't eat any sugars at all, not brown sugar, nothing? grrr.............S.

Subject: Re: going off T3, starting T4 an option? I feel terrible./tempsTo: RT3_T3 Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 12:31 PM

I cut out gluten and sugar and it really helped the healing process for me. I didn't come up gluten intolerant on bloodtests-only stool testing revealed I had a problem.I was really bummed to have to cut out that stuff, but it really helped.Liz> > >One thing that Dr. Kharrazian told me is that it is essential that all > >hashisotos go on a strick gluten-free diet. My lab tests showed I didn't have a > >gluten problem but he said those tests are not conclusive and the only real way > >to test this is through some stool test.........there are so many things you > >should do and shouldn't do, should take

and should not take, should eat and not > >eat, it is almost impossible to keep track of everything.........> > That's a new one on me, there are plenty of hashi people out there> without Gluten issues> > Nick> > -- > > for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to > > www.thyroid-rt3.com>

August 12, 2010

I never use splenda, not any of those sugars, i do use brown natural sugar though although i realize it's still sugar! is that ok? otherwise i prefer not to use any..........

Subject: Re: going off T3, starting T4 an option? I feel terrible./tempsTo: RT3_T3 Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 12:31 PM

I cut out gluten and sugar and it really helped the healing process for me. I didn't come up gluten intolerant on bloodtests-only stool testing revealed I had a problem.I was really bummed to have to cut out that stuff, but it really helped.Liz> > >One thing that Dr. Kharrazian told me is that it is essential that all > >hashisotos go on a strick gluten-free diet. My lab tests showed I didn't have a > >gluten problem but he said those tests are not conclusive and the only real way > >to test this is through some stool test.........there are so many things you > >should do and shouldn't do, should take

and should not take, should eat and not > >eat, it is almost impossible to keep track of everything.........> > That's a new one on me, there are plenty of hashi people out there> without Gluten issues> > Nick> > -- > > for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to > > www.thyroid-rt3.com>

August 12, 2010

I thought you couldn't eat oats (as in oatmeal) either?? At least that was on the list of Dr. K no-no's I think

Subject: Re: going off T3, starting T4 an option? I feel terrible./tempsTo: RT3_T3 Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 7:45 PM

> His idea of being gluten free is really hard for me too. He says you can't > have any. I like mexican food and the flour tortilla so i've not been able to > go free yet. I am trying to cut back. I do have hashi and i'm on T3 > and adrenal support. Still having some problems with GERD and irritability. Yes - go completely gluten free. Use Mission white corn tortilla shells instead of flour tortilla shells. You have to get gluten completely out of your system. There are tons of resources out there to help you. For the GERD try the baking soda test, the next time you get indigestion, drink a teaspoon of baking soda dissolved in water - if it resolves the problem you need HCL. It means you don't have enough stomach acid. As far as the irritability, while eating gluten I had terrible irritability and an inability to control my temper ... without gluten I'm a much nicer person.If I get "glutened" it takes 7

days to get over the symptoms and a month for my system to get over the inflammation. If you try it and feel better you may find that it is easier to stick with than you thought.Peaches_II

August 12, 2010

brown sugar is still going to spike your blood sugar and trigger a big insulin response....unlike a piece of fruit. Stevia is a good alternative.

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Subject: Re: Re: going off T3, starting T4 an option? I feel terrible./tempsTo: RT3_T3 Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 9:08 PM

I never use splenda, not any of those sugars, i do use brown natural sugar though although i realize it's still sugar! is that ok? otherwise i prefer not to use any..........

Subject: Re: going off T3, starting T4 an option? I feel terrible./tempsTo: RT3_T3 Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 12:31 PM

I cut out gluten and sugar and it really helped the healing process for me. I didn't come up gluten intolerant on bloodtests-only stool testing revealed I had a problem.I was really bummed to have to cut out that stuff, but it really helped.Liz> > >One thing that Dr. Kharrazian told me is that it is essential that all > >hashisotos go on a strick gluten-free diet. My lab tests showed I didn't have a > >gluten problem but he said those tests are not conclusive and the only real way > >to test this is through some stool test.........there are so many things you > >should do and shouldn't do, should take

and should not take, should eat and not > >eat, it is almost impossible to keep track of everything.........> > That's a new one on me, there are plenty of hashi people out there> without Gluten issues> > Nick> > -- > > for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to > > www.thyroid-rt3.com>

August 12, 2010

oats are not gluten. But some things are processed in a factory that also processes wheat products so there can be cross contamination. some people are ultra sensitive and some just so-so. I use an oatmeal that says gluten free. But in a pinch I have had to use regular quaker oat meal and i didn't have a problem. when we were traveling I was in a diner and they had regular oatmeal, not instant, not flavored, and i was fine with it. But there are some people who can't eat anything made in the same kitchen as wheat products....just like people have varying degrees of peanut alergies.

so you can do oatmeal. try to do the least processed foods you can...so not instant oatmeal, regular, unflavored, no sugar added. I microwave mine and i first soak it with 1 T ground flaxmeal and water. There are some instant oatmeals you can get in the health food store that have no added sugar....those are good when traveling or in a rush.

The gluten free ice cream cones are awesome...10 calories each and they are light and crispy like the real thing!

Sharon

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Subject: Re: Re: going off T3, starting T4 an option? I feel terrible./tempsTo: RT3_T3 Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 9:09 PM

I thought you couldn't eat oats (as in oatmeal) either?? At least that was on the list of Dr. K no-no's I think

Subject: Re: going off T3, starting T4 an option? I feel terrible./tempsTo: RT3_T3 Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 7:45 PM

> His idea of being gluten free is really hard for me too. He says you can't > have any. I like mexican food and the flour tortilla so i've not been able to > go free yet. I am trying to cut back. I do have hashi and i'm on T3 > and adrenal support. Still having some problems with GERD and irritability. Yes - go completely gluten free. Use Mission white corn tortilla shells instead of flour tortilla shells. You have to get gluten completely out of your system. There are tons of resources out there to help you. For the GERD try the baking soda test, the next time you get indigestion, drink a teaspoon of baking soda dissolved in water - if it resolves the problem you need HCL. It means you don't have enough stomach acid. As far as the irritability, while eating gluten I had terrible irritability and an inability to control my temper ... without gluten I'm a much nicer person.If I get "glutened" it takes 7

days to get over the symptoms and a month for my system to get over the inflammation. If you try it and feel better you may find that it is easier to stick with than you thought.Peaches_II

August 12, 2010

Thanks Peaches I'll have to do that. On this is going to be hard.CindyTo: RT3_T3 Sent: Thu, August 12, 2010 7:45:09 PMSubject: Re: going off T3, starting T4 an option? I feel terrible./temps

> His idea of being gluten free is really hard for me too. He says you can't

> have any. I like mexican food and the flour tortilla so i've not been able to

> go free yet. I am trying to cut back. I do have hashi and i'm on T3

> and adrenal support. Still having some problems with GERD and irritability.

Yes - go completely gluten free. Use Mission white corn tortilla shells instead of flour tortilla shells. You have to get gluten completely out of your system. There are tons of resources out there to help you. For the GERD try the baking soda test, the next time you get indigestion, drink a teaspoon of baking soda dissolved in water - if it resolves the problem you need HCL. It means you don't have enough stomach acid. As far as the irritability, while eating gluten I had terrible irritability and an inability to control my temper ... without gluten I'm a much nicer person.

If I get "glutened" it takes 7 days to get over the symptoms and a month for my system to get over the inflammation. If you try it and feel better you may find that it is easier to stick with than you thought.

Peaches_II

August 13, 2010

Correction, a piece of fruit WIL spike glucose and cause an insulin

spike unless it is a whel fruit woith HIGH fiber such as an apple

wiht skin. Some Diabetics cannot even eat apples, liek me. Fruit is

FULL of fructose which is one of the MOST harmful sugars there is.

It si NOT the health food it si thought to be.

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http://faqhelp.webs.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

http://artisticgrooming.net/

brown sugar is still going to

spike your blood sugar and trigger a big insulin

response....unlike a piece of fruit. Stevia is a good

alternative.

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From:

lizdoubleu

Subject:

Re:

going off T3,

starting T4 an

option? I feel

terrible./temps

To:

RT3_T3

Date:

Thursday,

August 12,

2010, 12:31 PM

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I cut out

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to cut out

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but it really

helped.

Liz

>

> >One

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>

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> >eat,

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>

> That's a

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there are

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> without

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>

> Nick

>

> --

>

> for more

information on

RT3 and

Thyroid

Resistance go

to

>

www.thyroid-rt3.com

>

August 13, 2010

Oats are controversial. Here is the thing with oats, due to crop rotation oats

can become cross-contaminated with gluten protein and therefore most say no WBRO

- wheat, barley, rye or oats. However, there are oats available that are grown

in soil that is not contaminated and they are tested to be sure that they are

less then 20 ppm. However, many people with leaky gut syndrome also cannot

tolerate oats until they heal their gut. Its the same with dairy.

On the sugar, try evaporated cane juice, the Florida Crystal brand is a good one

.... it is unrefined so doesn't spike your insulin like refined sugar and it is

natural. I also use stevia, but avoid all refined sugar and especially high

fructose corn syrup ... that is bad stuff.

Peaches_II

> I thought you couldn't eat oats (as in oatmeal) either??Â At least that was

on the list of Dr. K no-no's I think

>

> From: peaches_ii

> Subject: Re: going off T3, starting T4 an option? I feel

terrible./temps

> To: RT3_T3

> Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 7:45 PM

>

> Â

>

> > His idea of being gluten free is really hard for me too. He says you can't

> > have any. I like mexican food and the flour tortilla so i've not been able

to

> > go free yet. I am trying to cut back. I do have hashi and i'm on T3

> > and adrenal support. Still having some problems with GERD and irritability.

>

> Yes - go completely gluten free. Use Mission white corn tortilla shells

instead of flour tortilla shells. You have to get gluten completely out of your

system. There are tons of resources out there to help you. For the GERD try the

baking soda test, the next time you get indigestion, drink a teaspoon of baking

soda dissolved in water - if it resolves the problem you need HCL. It means you

don't have enough stomach acid. As far as the irritability, while eating gluten

I had terrible irritability and an inability to control my temper ... without

gluten I'm a much nicer person.

>

> If I get " glutened " it takes 7 days to get over the symptoms and a month for

my system to get over the inflammation. If you try it and feel better you may

find that it is easier to stick with than you thought.

>

> Peaches_II

>

August 13, 2010