Re: BUMP Glandulars and low temps

[Guest guest]

>Hi Mods

>

>I really need some input here.

>

>I have followed the protocol for T3 only as per Nick's website and gradually

increased dosage to 125mcg split over 5 doses per day. I tried taking T4 but it

made me feel worse so I decided to go down the T3 only route.

Sounds good so far

>

>I started on glandular Adrenal in January as advised by Dr P and i have done

well since, showing a slow but steady improvement. I have been feeling much

better but the last couple of days i have really gone off the boil and need some

advice. I dont have any cortisol labs as I started it before labs and really

dont want to have to wean off for 2 weeks to get test done. I know its tricky to

advise without labs but you can see my predicament.

>

Temperature stability is a good indicator of adrenal health while on

treatment. The " 3 times a day averages are good for that "

>My temps have suddenly fallen off the page. 35.3 basal and average 35.6 today.

OUCH, have you just changed the batch of meds???

> I dont know why and need some guidance as to where to go with this? My pulse

is running at 105-110 at rest and 120 standing so i know this is too high. I

tried the salt water test and it didnt seem to make any difference.

ouch, too fast for resting

>I take 3000mg Vit C and the glandular is full of Vit B. I take 200mg px iron

and my ferritin was 160 last blood test so iron doesnt seem to be a problem, but

i'm gonna get it tested soon. I use rock salt and use liberally on my food but

dont take salt water.

All sounds good

>

>I tried increasing the glandular the last few days and my temps have dropped

and i feel really fatigued. I recently weaned off Vanlafaxine so that is

obviously a potential issue but the current fatigue doesnt seem linked as I

weaned off nearly 2 weeks ago.

>

>My sleep has changed and I have been waking really early so have taken

Melatonin to try to improve sleep.

Something has happened, I suspect adrenal

>

>Any guidange would be gratefully recieved as i dont want to lose all the

improvement i have made since Christmas when i was in a real state.

>

>Do I decrease glandular? Do I increase T3. Do i just wait?......help?

I would drop the T3 to 100 for a day and then add more adrenal support

on the second day, do you have any HC cream?? rubbing some of that on

your skin may show you if it is adrenal

How long have you been on T3 only??? if it's around 12 weeks you may

have just cleared resistance and the surplus T3 crashed your

adrenals??

Nick

(in Dorset)

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[Guest guest]

Hi Steve,

Just me two cents here. When I thought I was fairly stablized on my T3 I started having problems with a drop in temp whenever I took my HC. I kept thinking I needed more T3 but that was not the case. I guess it was my body's way of telling my that I did not need the adrenal support. I slowly weaned and have not taken any form of adrenal support. Sometimes when on T3 it also helps to heal to adrenals. You may try lowering your dose of adrenal glandulars and possibly pay attention to what happens when you do take the adrenal support. My temps would rise with the T3 but when I took the HC I had a major drop.

Cindy

Subject: BUMP Glandulars and low tempsTo: RT3_T3 Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 3:45 AM

Hi ModsI really need some input here.I have followed the protocol for T3 only as per Nick's website and gradually increased dosage to 125mcg split over 5 doses per day. I tried taking T4 but it made me feel worse so I decided to go down the T3 only route.I started on glandular Adrenal in January as advised by Dr P and i have done well since, showing a slow but steady improvement. I have been feeling much better but the last couple of days i have really gone off the boil and need some advice. I dont have any cortisol labs as I started it before labs and really dont want to have to wean off for 2 weeks to get test done. I know its tricky to advise without labs but you can see my predicament.My temps have suddenly fallen off the page. 35.3 basal and average 35.6 today. I dont know why and need some guidance as to where to go with this? My pulse is running at 105-110 at rest and 120 standing so i know this is too high. I

tried the salt water test and it didnt seem to make any difference.I take 3000mg Vit C and the glandular is full of Vit B. I take 200mg px iron and my ferritin was 160 last blood test so iron doesnt seem to be a problem, but i'm gonna get it tested soon. I use rock salt and use liberally on my food but dont take salt water.I tried increasing the glandular the last few days and my temps have dropped and i feel really fatigued. I recently weaned off Vanlafaxine so that is obviously a potential issue but the current fatigue doesnt seem linked as I weaned off nearly 2 weeks ago.My sleep has changed and I have been waking really early so have taken Melatonin to try to improve sleep.Any guidange would be gratefully recieved as i dont want to lose all the improvement i have made since Christmas when i was in a real state.Do I decrease glandular? Do I increase T3. Do i just

wait?......help?Thanks

[Guest guest]

Hi Steve,

Just me two cents here. When I thought I was fairly stablized on my T3 I started having problems with a drop in temp whenever I took my HC. I kept thinking I needed more T3 but that was not the case. I guess it was my body's way of telling my that I did not need the adrenal support. I slowly weaned and have not taken any form of adrenal support. Sometimes when on T3 it also helps to heal to adrenals. You may try lowering your dose of adrenal glandulars and possibly pay attention to what happens when you do take the adrenal support. My temps would rise with the T3 but when I took the HC I had a major drop.

Cindy

Subject: BUMP Glandulars and low tempsTo: RT3_T3 Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 3:45 AM

Hi ModsI really need some input here.I have followed the protocol for T3 only as per Nick's website and gradually increased dosage to 125mcg split over 5 doses per day. I tried taking T4 but it made me feel worse so I decided to go down the T3 only route.I started on glandular Adrenal in January as advised by Dr P and i have done well since, showing a slow but steady improvement. I have been feeling much better but the last couple of days i have really gone off the boil and need some advice. I dont have any cortisol labs as I started it before labs and really dont want to have to wean off for 2 weeks to get test done. I know its tricky to advise without labs but you can see my predicament.My temps have suddenly fallen off the page. 35.3 basal and average 35.6 today. I dont know why and need some guidance as to where to go with this? My pulse is running at 105-110 at rest and 120 standing so i know this is too high. I

tried the salt water test and it didnt seem to make any difference.I take 3000mg Vit C and the glandular is full of Vit B. I take 200mg px iron and my ferritin was 160 last blood test so iron doesnt seem to be a problem, but i'm gonna get it tested soon. I use rock salt and use liberally on my food but dont take salt water.I tried increasing the glandular the last few days and my temps have dropped and i feel really fatigued. I recently weaned off Vanlafaxine so that is obviously a potential issue but the current fatigue doesnt seem linked as I weaned off nearly 2 weeks ago.My sleep has changed and I have been waking really early so have taken Melatonin to try to improve sleep.Any guidange would be gratefully recieved as i dont want to lose all the improvement i have made since Christmas when i was in a real state.Do I decrease glandular? Do I increase T3. Do i just

wait?......help?Thanks

[Guest guest]

Hi Nick Thanks for the reply. My meds haven’t changed at all, not even the batch, but I have weaned off the Anti-Depressant Venlafaxine about 3 weeks ago. I was on such a high dose that it has taken me 5 months to wean off. I was cautious to go slowly so as not to stress adrenals. I am around week 12 so you are probably right about clearance. I will reduce the T3 as you recommend. I have a problem with the HC bit because I started on Nutri Adrenal Extra glandular on the recommendation of Dr Peatfield and they have helped loads but I don’t know how much cortisol is in them. I never did a saliva test as he works off symptoms so I wouldn’t have a clue how to dose HC or isocort. I take 5 Nutri Adrenal Extra and 4 Nutri Adrenal (half the amount of glandular as the Extra). I added the 4 as I also suspected adrenals as the culprit. I was a bit unsure about taking any more as I know too high cortils can be as bad as too low L I know I should do saliva testing but I can’t face weaning off glandulars for 2 weeks as I also know I would have to cut my T3…..ggrrrrr. If I have cleared shouldn’t my temps rise and I go Hyper rather than temps drop and I feel wasted? My temps yesterday came back up to 36.5 basal and average of 36.4 for the day. Wow it’s such a balancing act we perform trying to get things on the level. I’ll try some HC cream. Any more advice you can give is much appreciated. Thanks Carole

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[Guest guest]

Hi Nick Thanks for the reply. My meds haven’t changed at all, not even the batch, but I have weaned off the Anti-Depressant Venlafaxine about 3 weeks ago. I was on such a high dose that it has taken me 5 months to wean off. I was cautious to go slowly so as not to stress adrenals. I am around week 12 so you are probably right about clearance. I will reduce the T3 as you recommend. I have a problem with the HC bit because I started on Nutri Adrenal Extra glandular on the recommendation of Dr Peatfield and they have helped loads but I don’t know how much cortisol is in them. I never did a saliva test as he works off symptoms so I wouldn’t have a clue how to dose HC or isocort. I take 5 Nutri Adrenal Extra and 4 Nutri Adrenal (half the amount of glandular as the Extra). I added the 4 as I also suspected adrenals as the culprit. I was a bit unsure about taking any more as I know too high cortils can be as bad as too low L I know I should do saliva testing but I can’t face weaning off glandulars for 2 weeks as I also know I would have to cut my T3…..ggrrrrr. If I have cleared shouldn’t my temps rise and I go Hyper rather than temps drop and I feel wasted? My temps yesterday came back up to 36.5 basal and average of 36.4 for the day. Wow it’s such a balancing act we perform trying to get things on the level. I’ll try some HC cream. Any more advice you can give is much appreciated. Thanks Carole

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[Guest guest]

>If I have cleared shouldn't my temps rise and I go Hyper rather than temps

>drop and I feel wasted? My temps yesterday came back up to 36.5 basal and

>average of 36.4 for the day.

My working theory is that you cleared, went hyper, and this crashed

your adrenals.

If I am right dropping T3 to half for a day and keeping up the adrenal

support will let temperature recover.

After a few days you can ramp the T3 up again to find your new dose

I hope I am guessing right

Nick

[Guest guest]

>If I have cleared shouldn't my temps rise and I go Hyper rather than temps

>drop and I feel wasted? My temps yesterday came back up to 36.5 basal and

>average of 36.4 for the day.

My working theory is that you cleared, went hyper, and this crashed

your adrenals.

If I am right dropping T3 to half for a day and keeping up the adrenal

support will let temperature recover.

After a few days you can ramp the T3 up again to find your new dose

I hope I am guessing right

Nick