Guest guest Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 > > > >>> I'm sorry to post this here, it should probably to on the adrenals group, but as > > > >>> they're closed for the moment... > > > >>> I've posted this on the NT group, realizing maybe this group was a better place... > > > >>> > > > >>> I did such a stupid thing. I'm still on levo, can't go on T3 only yet, have to > > > >>> raise my iron/ferritin first and address my adrenals. Am waiting for the HC to > > > >>> arrive. > > > >>> So, normally I take 137,5�g levo, I take 1 of 100, 1/2 of 50, 1/2 of 35. > > > >>> I've beel feeling really bad these last couple of months. Have so much pain I > > > >>> can hardly walk anymore (never before this bad!), sweating like a horse (thought > > > >>> it was all hot flashes), pounding headaches, etc. > > > >>> > > > >>> Yesterday night, preparing my pills for this morning, I noticed that instead of > > > >>> taking 1/2 pill of 25, I've been taking 1/2 pill of 150!!! > > > >>> OMG, I really panicked! These stupid pills are both the same shade of blue, so I > > > >>> never checked. > > > >>> I don't know how long this is been going on, but certainly for a month or 2. > > > >>> I feel so stupid and scared! Don't know what to do. Simply go back to my old > > > >>> dose? > > > >>> What did I do to my adrenals, I hope I didn't mess them up too bad. > > > >>> Anybody any idea how long it'll take to go back to " normal " ? > > > >>> > > > >>> I'm so tired of everything, I'm a reall mess and there's so much to think of. > > > >>> When I'll be going on the HC, there'll be temping, charting, taking pills 4 > > > >>> times daily... I really don't know how I'm going to cope, I'm afrai I'll mess > > > >>> that up too. > > > >>> > > > >>> Sorry to put this here, I really needed to tell someone and I need some advice. > > > >>> > > > >>> Christel > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> ------------------------------------ > > > >>> > > > >>> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 It makes sense that a T4-overdose would give you bad hypo symptoms...it may well have been converting into large amounts of RT3. Most of your symptoms sound hypo to me, especially shortness of breath. " inability to get enough air {indicates} low thyroid " From Val's post: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/message/35050 For general starting and dosing amounts, here's a link to Moderator Nick's web page: http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/dosing.htm Your situation is a little more complex...I don't know about re-starting the Levo, hope someone more knowledgeable about T4-only can answer. > > > > >>> I'm sorry to post this here, it should probably to on the adrenals group, but as > > > > >>> they're closed for the moment... > > > > >>> I've posted this on the NT group, realizing maybe this group was a better place... > > > > >>> > > > > >>> I did such a stupid thing. I'm still on levo, can't go on T3 only yet, have to > > > > >>> raise my iron/ferritin first and address my adrenals. Am waiting for the HC to > > > > >>> arrive. > > > > >>> So, normally I take 137,5�g levo, I take 1 of 100, 1/2 of 50, 1/2 of 35. > > > > >>> I've beel feeling really bad these last couple of months. Have so much pain I > > > > >>> can hardly walk anymore (never before this bad!), sweating like a horse (thought > > > > >>> it was all hot flashes), pounding headaches, etc. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Yesterday night, preparing my pills for this morning, I noticed that instead of > > > > >>> taking 1/2 pill of 25, I've been taking 1/2 pill of 150!!! > > > > >>> OMG, I really panicked! These stupid pills are both the same shade of blue, so I > > > > >>> never checked. > > > > >>> I don't know how long this is been going on, but certainly for a month or 2. > > > > >>> I feel so stupid and scared! Don't know what to do. Simply go back to my old > > > > >>> dose? > > > > >>> What did I do to my adrenals, I hope I didn't mess them up too bad. > > > > >>> Anybody any idea how long it'll take to go back to " normal " ? > > > > >>> > > > > >>> I'm so tired of everything, I'm a reall mess and there's so much to think of. > > > > >>> When I'll be going on the HC, there'll be temping, charting, taking pills 4 > > > > >>> times daily... I really don't know how I'm going to cope, I'm afrai I'll mess > > > > >>> that up too. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Sorry to put this here, I really needed to tell someone and I need some advice. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Christel > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> ------------------------------------ > > > > >>> > > > > >>> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 > > With this T4-overdose for weeks, how could it be that I was having really horrific hypo symptoms like hair loss, exhaustion, etc. Is this because of my RT3? Yes, because if you don't convert t4 to t3 properly, you've just given yourself a hefty dose of REVERSE t3, which will make you feel super hypo as it blocks any t3 you do have from getting into the cells. > > I've stopped my T4 since last Sunday and started on hc cream, and I'm feeling a bit less wired up now, but still in a lot of pain and having fluid retention, shortness of breath (I have to gasp for air - panting all the time), very tired but not sleepy, feeling like I weigh 100 kg, dragging my feet, etc. > > Is this thyroid related or could this be adrenal? Or both? It sounds more like hypo. Being tired can be both as starting the HC cream can reduce adrenaline if you were making too much. But the air hunger, etc, sounds more like hypo. > > I'm going to have my iron tested later this week to see if I'm allowed to go on T3 only. > > If it's OK, when should I start and on how much? I normally took 137.5 µg of levo. If my ferritin is still too low (what I'm afraid off), I guess I'll have to go back to the levo. When and how much? Go to the rt3 FAQ page (look for it Val's signature, sorry, I don't know it by heart) and there is a section on switching from t4 meds to t3. I think you can take SOME t3 even with low iron if it's not too horribly low, you just have to go really slow. For sure, the levo isn't helping you and that will stay in your system anyway and slowly decrease over the next several weeks. Kathleen > > CHristel > > > > > > > > >>> I'm sorry to post this here, it should probably to on the adrenals group, but as > > > > >>> they're closed for the moment... > > > > >>> I've posted this on the NT group, realizing maybe this group was a better place... > > > > >>> > > > > >>> I did such a stupid thing. I'm still on levo, can't go on T3 only yet, have to > > > > >>> raise my iron/ferritin first and address my adrenals. Am waiting for the HC to > > > > >>> arrive. > > > > >>> So, normally I take 137,5�g levo, I take 1 of 100, 1/2 of 50, 1/2 of 35. > > > > >>> I've beel feeling really bad these last couple of months. Have so much pain I > > > > >>> can hardly walk anymore (never before this bad!), sweating like a horse (thought > > > > >>> it was all hot flashes), pounding headaches, etc. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Yesterday night, preparing my pills for this morning, I noticed that instead of > > > > >>> taking 1/2 pill of 25, I've been taking 1/2 pill of 150!!! > > > > >>> OMG, I really panicked! These stupid pills are both the same shade of blue, so I > > > > >>> never checked. > > > > >>> I don't know how long this is been going on, but certainly for a month or 2. > > > > >>> I feel so stupid and scared! Don't know what to do. Simply go back to my old > > > > >>> dose? > > > > >>> What did I do to my adrenals, I hope I didn't mess them up too bad. > > > > >>> Anybody any idea how long it'll take to go back to " normal " ? > > > > >>> > > > > >>> I'm so tired of everything, I'm a reall mess and there's so much to think of. > > > > >>> When I'll be going on the HC, there'll be temping, charting, taking pills 4 > > > > >>> times daily... I really don't know how I'm going to cope, I'm afrai I'll mess > > > > >>> that up too. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Sorry to put this here, I really needed to tell someone and I need some advice. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Christel > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> ------------------------------------ > > > > >>> > > > > >>> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 Margery, Thank you. I've read the file on the dosage, the problem is that I don't know what dose I'm starting from, since I don't know how much T4 still is in my blood. Anyway, I'm having my iron panel tested tomorrow, that'll tell if I'm ready for the T3 or not. ANd Val will be coming back on line soon, maybe she'll know what to do. Christel > > > > > >>> I'm sorry to post this here, it should probably to on the adrenals group, but as > > > > > >>> they're closed for the moment... > > > > > >>> I've posted this on the NT group, realizing maybe this group was a better place... > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> I did such a stupid thing. I'm still on levo, can't go on T3 only yet, have to > > > > > >>> raise my iron/ferritin first and address my adrenals. Am waiting for the HC to > > > > > >>> arrive. > > > > > >>> So, normally I take 137,5�g levo, I take 1 of 100, 1/2 of 50, 1/2 of 35. > > > > > >>> I've beel feeling really bad these last couple of months. Have so much pain I > > > > > >>> can hardly walk anymore (never before this bad!), sweating like a horse (thought > > > > > >>> it was all hot flashes), pounding headaches, etc. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Yesterday night, preparing my pills for this morning, I noticed that instead of > > > > > >>> taking 1/2 pill of 25, I've been taking 1/2 pill of 150!!! > > > > > >>> OMG, I really panicked! These stupid pills are both the same shade of blue, so I > > > > > >>> never checked. > > > > > >>> I don't know how long this is been going on, but certainly for a month or 2. > > > > > >>> I feel so stupid and scared! Don't know what to do. Simply go back to my old > > > > > >>> dose? > > > > > >>> What did I do to my adrenals, I hope I didn't mess them up too bad. > > > > > >>> Anybody any idea how long it'll take to go back to " normal " ? > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> I'm so tired of everything, I'm a reall mess and there's so much to think of. > > > > > >>> When I'll be going on the HC, there'll be temping, charting, taking pills 4 > > > > > >>> times daily... I really don't know how I'm going to cope, I'm afrai I'll mess > > > > > >>> that up too. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Sorry to put this here, I really needed to tell someone and I need some advice. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Christel > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> ------------------------------------ > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 Kathleen, Thanks. As I already told Margery, a lot will depend on the results of my iron panel. I'll contact Val later concerning the dosage of T3 or T3 and when to start, because I don't know what's left in my blood. Maybe I'm going from being hypo because of the RT3 to being hypo because of taking no thyroid meds... Christel > > > > > >>> I'm sorry to post this here, it should probably to on the adrenals group, but as > > > > > >>> they're closed for the moment... > > > > > >>> I've posted this on the NT group, realizing maybe this group was a better place... > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> I did such a stupid thing. I'm still on levo, can't go on T3 only yet, have to > > > > > >>> raise my iron/ferritin first and address my adrenals. Am waiting for the HC to > > > > > >>> arrive. > > > > > >>> So, normally I take 137,5�g levo, I take 1 of 100, 1/2 of 50, 1/2 of 35. > > > > > >>> I've beel feeling really bad these last couple of months. Have so much pain I > > > > > >>> can hardly walk anymore (never before this bad!), sweating like a horse (thought > > > > > >>> it was all hot flashes), pounding headaches, etc. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Yesterday night, preparing my pills for this morning, I noticed that instead of > > > > > >>> taking 1/2 pill of 25, I've been taking 1/2 pill of 150!!! > > > > > >>> OMG, I really panicked! These stupid pills are both the same shade of blue, so I > > > > > >>> never checked. > > > > > >>> I don't know how long this is been going on, but certainly for a month or 2. > > > > > >>> I feel so stupid and scared! Don't know what to do. Simply go back to my old > > > > > >>> dose? > > > > > >>> What did I do to my adrenals, I hope I didn't mess them up too bad. > > > > > >>> Anybody any idea how long it'll take to go back to " normal " ? > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> I'm so tired of everything, I'm a reall mess and there's so much to think of. > > > > > >>> When I'll be going on the HC, there'll be temping, charting, taking pills 4 > > > > > >>> times daily... I really don't know how I'm going to cope, I'm afrai I'll mess > > > > > >>> that up too. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Sorry to put this here, I really needed to tell someone and I need some advice. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Christel > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> ------------------------------------ > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 Val's input will be very welcome here. As far as I know, re-starting T4 will only worsen an RT3 problem. > > > > > > >>> I'm sorry to post this here, it should probably to on the adrenals group, but as > > > > > > >>> they're closed for the moment... > > > > > > >>> I've posted this on the NT group, realizing maybe this group was a better place... > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> I did such a stupid thing. I'm still on levo, can't go on T3 only yet, have to > > > > > > >>> raise my iron/ferritin first and address my adrenals. Am waiting for the HC to > > > > > > >>> arrive. > > > > > > >>> So, normally I take 137,5�g levo, I take 1 of 100, 1/2 of 50, 1/2 of 35. > > > > > > >>> I've beel feeling really bad these last couple of months. Have so much pain I > > > > > > >>> can hardly walk anymore (never before this bad!), sweating like a horse (thought > > > > > > >>> it was all hot flashes), pounding headaches, etc. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Yesterday night, preparing my pills for this morning, I noticed that instead of > > > > > > >>> taking 1/2 pill of 25, I've been taking 1/2 pill of 150!!! > > > > > > >>> OMG, I really panicked! These stupid pills are both the same shade of blue, so I > > > > > > >>> never checked. > > > > > > >>> I don't know how long this is been going on, but certainly for a month or 2. > > > > > > >>> I feel so stupid and scared! Don't know what to do. Simply go back to my old > > > > > > >>> dose? > > > > > > >>> What did I do to my adrenals, I hope I didn't mess them up too bad. > > > > > > >>> Anybody any idea how long it'll take to go back to " normal " ? > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> I'm so tired of everything, I'm a reall mess and there's so much to think of. > > > > > > >>> When I'll be going on the HC, there'll be temping, charting, taking pills 4 > > > > > > >>> times daily... I really don't know how I'm going to cope, I'm afrai I'll mess > > > > > > >>> that up too. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Sorry to put this here, I really needed to tell someone and I need some advice. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Christel > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> ------------------------------------ > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 Yes,that could be true about going hypo also from stopping meds. And good idea to talk to Val after iron panel! Kathleen > > > > > > >>> I'm sorry to post this here, it should probably to on the adrenals group, but as > > > > > > >>> they're closed for the moment... > > > > > > >>> I've posted this on the NT group, realizing maybe this group was a better place... > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> I did such a stupid thing. I'm still on levo, can't go on T3 only yet, have to > > > > > > >>> raise my iron/ferritin first and address my adrenals. Am waiting for the HC to > > > > > > >>> arrive. > > > > > > >>> So, normally I take 137,5�g levo, I take 1 of 100, 1/2 of 50, 1/2 of 35. > > > > > > >>> I've beel feeling really bad these last couple of months. Have so much pain I > > > > > > >>> can hardly walk anymore (never before this bad!), sweating like a horse (thought > > > > > > >>> it was all hot flashes), pounding headaches, etc. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Yesterday night, preparing my pills for this morning, I noticed that instead of > > > > > > >>> taking 1/2 pill of 25, I've been taking 1/2 pill of 150!!! > > > > > > >>> OMG, I really panicked! These stupid pills are both the same shade of blue, so I > > > > > > >>> never checked. > > > > > > >>> I don't know how long this is been going on, but certainly for a month or 2. > > > > > > >>> I feel so stupid and scared! Don't know what to do. Simply go back to my old > > > > > > >>> dose? > > > > > > >>> What did I do to my adrenals, I hope I didn't mess them up too bad. > > > > > > >>> Anybody any idea how long it'll take to go back to " normal " ? > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> I'm so tired of everything, I'm a reall mess and there's so much to think of. > > > > > > >>> When I'll be going on the HC, there'll be temping, charting, taking pills 4 > > > > > > >>> times daily... I really don't know how I'm going to cope, I'm afrai I'll mess > > > > > > >>> that up too. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Sorry to put this here, I really needed to tell someone and I need some advice. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Christel > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> ------------------------------------ > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2010 Report Share Posted August 27, 2010 Yes, that's what I thought also. Had my blood drawn today to check my iron/ferritin. Started on hc last Saturday. From what I've gathered, both have to be OK before being able to start with T3. I'm not there yet by far, so I wonder what I'll have to do in the meantime. Not taking any thyroid meds? Wow, this is all so difficult and scary... Thanks for your reaction, Margery. > > > > > > > >>> I'm sorry to post this here, it should probably to on the adrenals group, but as > > > > > > > >>> they're closed for the moment... > > > > > > > >>> I've posted this on the NT group, realizing maybe this group was a better place... > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> I did such a stupid thing. I'm still on levo, can't go on T3 only yet, have to > > > > > > > >>> raise my iron/ferritin first and address my adrenals. Am waiting for the HC to > > > > > > > >>> arrive. > > > > > > > >>> So, normally I take 137,5�g levo, I take 1 of 100, 1/2 of 50, 1/2 of 35. > > > > > > > >>> I've beel feeling really bad these last couple of months. Have so much pain I > > > > > > > >>> can hardly walk anymore (never before this bad!), sweating like a horse (thought > > > > > > > >>> it was all hot flashes), pounding headaches, etc. > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> Yesterday night, preparing my pills for this morning, I noticed that instead of > > > > > > > >>> taking 1/2 pill of 25, I've been taking 1/2 pill of 150!!! > > > > > > > >>> OMG, I really panicked! These stupid pills are both the same shade of blue, so I > > > > > > > >>> never checked. > > > > > > > >>> I don't know how long this is been going on, but certainly for a month or 2. > > > > > > > >>> I feel so stupid and scared! Don't know what to do. Simply go back to my old > > > > > > > >>> dose? > > > > > > > >>> What did I do to my adrenals, I hope I didn't mess them up too bad. > > > > > > > >>> Anybody any idea how long it'll take to go back to " normal " ? > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> I'm so tired of everything, I'm a reall mess and there's so much to think of. > > > > > > > >>> When I'll be going on the HC, there'll be temping, charting, taking pills 4 > > > > > > > >>> times daily... I really don't know how I'm going to cope, I'm afrai I'll mess > > > > > > > >>> that up too. > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> Sorry to put this here, I really needed to tell someone and I need some advice. > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> Christel > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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