Re: Re: Pooling

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does pooling ever cause increase in temps or pulse or bp??Subject: Re: PoolingTo: RT3_T3 Date: Wednesday, August 25, 2010, 11:21 AM

One time I had pooling, I just felt very, very hypo. Another time I felt almost like I had the flu. I think it is experienced differently by different people. But yes, generally, it does make you feel worse.

Being hypo can cause intestinal discomfort, not sure if this is what is going on with you. But Pooling IS hypo. (One has enough T3 but it can't get into their cells.)

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> Where can I find information on pooling in the files. I can't seem to find it.

> Can anyone tell me if this pooling makes you feel worse.

> Does it cause intestinal discomfort? I always have an annoying feeling in my mid section, like a heaviness and warmth feeling.

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> Faith

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What does one do for pooling?To: RT3_T3 Sent: Wed, August 25, 2010 12:21:08 PMSubject: Re: Pooling

One time I had pooling, I just felt very, very hypo. Another time I felt almost like I had the flu. I think it is experienced differently by different people. But yes, generally, it does make you feel worse.

Being hypo can cause intestinal discomfort, not sure if this is what is going on with you. But Pooling IS hypo. (One has enough T3 but it can't get into their cells.)

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> Where can I find information on pooling in the files. I can't seem to find it.

> Can anyone tell me if this pooling makes you feel worse.

> Does it cause intestinal discomfort? I always have an annoying feeling in my mid section, like a heaviness and warmth feeling.

>

> Faith

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are the only reasons for pooling low cortisol, low iron and to much T3?

my labs say my cortisol is ok, I am taking about 100mcg of T3 and my T3 free is high 760, so I sould be definitely pooling as I have hypo symptoms... what a nightmare

To: RT3_T3 From: dawnv5@...Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 10:28:57 -0700Subject: Re: Re: Pooling

does pooling ever cause increase in temps or pulse or bp??

Subject: Re: PoolingTo: RT3_T3 Date: Wednesday, August 25, 2010, 11:21 AM

One time I had pooling, I just felt very, very hypo. Another time I felt almost like I had the flu. I think it is experienced differently by different people. But yes, generally, it does make you feel worse.Being hypo can cause intestinal discomfort, not sure if this is what is going on with you. But Pooling IS hypo. (One has enough T3 but it can't get into their cells.)>> Where can I find information on pooling in the files. I can't seem to find it.> Can anyone tell me if this pooling makes you feel worse.> Does it cause intestinal discomfort? I always have an annoying feeling in my mid section, like a heaviness and warmth feeling.> > Faith>

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>What does one do for pooling?

Lower T3 a little (to avoid a thyroid dump, too much getting through

at once) and then cure the cause of the pooling.

It's often adrenal and a dose of HC (or increase in HC dose) will get

the T3 moving again.

If it's low iron it's a slow process increasing it unless you have IVs

Nick

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Nick,

I usually post on the adrenal group. I find this topic interesting and I have a similar question. I am wondering if pooling is the same as T3 resistance? I have heard of thyroid dump, pooling and resistance...What if anything is the difference between these three or are they all the same?

Thank you

Judy,

To: RT3_T3 Sent: Thu, August 26, 2010 6:39:02 AMSubject: Re: Re: Pooling

>>What does one do for pooling?Lower T3 a little (to avoid a thyroid dump, too much getting throughat once) and then cure the cause of the pooling.It's often adrenal and a dose of HC (or increase in HC dose) will getthe T3 moving again.If it's low iron it's a slow process increasing it unless you have IVsNick-- for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to www.thyroid-rt3.com

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>I usually post on the adrenal group. I find this topic interesting and I have a

>similar question.  I am wondering if pooling is the same as T3 resistance?  I

>have heard of thyroid dump, pooling and resistance...What if anything is the

>difference between these three or are they all the same?

Resistance is related, if you have resistance and take a lot of T3

then pooling is the result.

Think of a blockage in a pipe and the water backing up behind it

(pooling), when the blockage (resistance) is cleared you get a rush of

water flowing down the pipe (thyroid dump) before it settles down to a

normal flow rate.

Nick

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for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

www.thyroid-rt3.com

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Thank you. Interesting. I am wondering if there are other things that cause resistance other than low cortisol, iron. I am having some resistance and have been for sometime now. I can't seem to raise cytomel above 81.25..If I raise it by only 6.25 my pulse get in the 100's and taking sea salt does not help much. I don't feel my heart pounding. Just curious if there might be other factors that have not yet been discovered that causes resistance. Needless to say I am left with many hypo symptoms. Today I have a phone consult with Dr. Lowe in hopes that he might shed some light to my problem(resistance). I was asked to do a (6) hour glucose test and fax it to him before the

consultation. Wondering if there might be some connection there. This morning before taking my cytomel I check my pulse and it was still high, my last dose of 18.75 was at 10pm... Do you know of anything else besides the low cortisol and low iron that might cause resistance? I have been on cytomel since May,2009 initially I did well and was up to 112mcg, thing were going well until I started getting hot, itchy and was sweating. So, I decided to lower my dose to 50mcg big mistake, I haven't been able to get back on track since then. I was also and still taking cortef 30mg, last year I was on 40mg. In retrosepct I should have lower dose by 6.25 or 12.5 but I lower it way too much and too quickly. So now I am left with this huge problem.

thanks again,

Judy,

To: RT3_T3 Sent: Thu, August 26, 2010 8:23:26 AMSubject: Re: Re: Pooling

>>I usually post on the adrenal group. I find this topic interesting and I have a >similar question. I am wondering if pooling is the same as T3 resistance? I >have heard of thyroid dump, pooling and resistance...What if anything is the >difference between these three or are they all the same?Resistance is related, if you have resistance and take a lot of T3then pooling is the result.Think of a blockage in a pipe and the water backing up behind it(pooling), when the blockage (resistance) is cleared you get a rush ofwater flowing down the pipe (thyroid dump) before it settles down to anormal flow rate.Nick-- for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to www.thyroid-rt3.com

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>6.25 or 12.5 but I lower it way too much and too quickly.  So now I am left

with

>this huge problem.  

Firstly you are dealing with intolerance rather than resistance as

such. With resistance you will be able to take large doses of T3 and

not get side effects or hyper.

The most common intolerance causes are cortisol and iron.

Have you done a full iron panel? Ferritin can show false highs, the

next parameter to look at if Ferritin is at least 70 is % saturation,

this needs to be 35% at least.

For cortisol once you are on it the most accurate test is the

stability of average temperatures from day to day. this should be

within 0.2F

Apart from these vitamins D & B12 plus sex hormone levels are all

important as are electrolytes. If electrolytes are out and reluctant

to correct then talk to the adrenal group about aldosterone.

Nick

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for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

www.thyroid-rt3.com

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thank you Nick...I have not had a aldosterone test done. I had my iron panel, cmp. I do take my temps and they are stable with .2. I do know that my vit d is low. I guess this will be more difficult than I thought.

thanks

To: RT3_T3 Sent: Thu, August 26, 2010 11:01:09 AMSubject: Re: Re: Pooling

>6.25 or 12.5 but I lower it way too much and too quickly. So now I am left with >this huge problem. Firstly you are dealing with intolerance rather than resistance assuch. With resistance you will be able to take large doses of T3 andnot get side effects or hyper.The most common intolerance causes are cortisol and iron.Have you done a full iron panel? Ferritin can show false highs, thenext parameter to look at if Ferritin is at least 70 is % saturation,this needs to be 35% at least.For cortisol once you are on it the most accurate test is thestability of average temperatures from day to day. this should bewithin 0.2FApart from these vitamins D & B12 plus sex hormone levels are allimportant as are electrolytes. If electrolytes are out and reluctantto correct then talk to the adrenal

group about aldosterone.Nick-- for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to www.thyroid-rt3.com

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What a great explanation/metaphor Nick!

Sharon

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Subject: Re: Re: PoolingTo: RT3_T3 Date: Thursday, August 26, 2010, 8:23 AM

>>I usually post on the adrenal group. I find this topic interesting and I have a >similar question. I am wondering if pooling is the same as T3 resistance? I >have heard of thyroid dump, pooling and resistance...What if anything is the >difference between these three or are they all the same?Resistance is related, if you have resistance and take a lot of T3then pooling is the result.Think of a blockage in a pipe and the water backing up behind it(pooling), when the blockage (resistance) is cleared you get a rush ofwater flowing down the pipe (thyroid dump) before it settles down to anormal flow rate.Nick-- for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to www.thyroid-rt3.com