Re: Re: Help with new results please! / info source

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Thank you so much; I read the links, I apologize so much but I am still very confused. I was on 2 g. dessicated thyroid and only today am cutting it down to 1 grain and starting the cytomel 12.5mcg. I am confused completely now b/c of course the doctor just told me to see him in 3 months and didn't say anything about reducing more the thyroid meds or increasing the cytomel. Am I to understand from Nick's site that I have to eliminate ALL dessicated thyroid ........ and then re-introduce it? Or can I stay on the 1 grain, I am currently taking nature-thyroid. Again my ratio if I did it correctly is about 10, 4.2 FT3 to 405 RT3..........and my symptoms are terrible; hair very dry and falling out, dry skin, sleep problems. I also taking isocort for adrenals (I was dismayed to read that T3 med affect the adrenals

though.......), and my iron/ferritin seems good........I am going to continue taking 1 iron/tab per day though........Any help you can give me is great, (P.S. I also have hashimotos if that means anything)...Sandy> > > From: sandra weisenthal <interart81 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>> Subject: Help with new results please!> To: RT3_T3 (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com> Date: Wednesday, July 7, 2010, 3:03 PM> > >  > > > > > > > My new results are this:> -FT3:  4.5> -FT4:  1.3  (.8--1.8)> -RT3: 405> -Thyroid antibodies: 80 (<25)> -Iron 108 (50--200)> -Ferritin 106 (10--291)> -Cortisol AM (blood): 20 (5--25)> -Vit D3: 37>  > I know my RT3 is too high; the doc said to start with 12.5mg mid-day and cut down on my thyroid (dessicated) to 1 grain/day (currently 2 grains). Also definitely need to increase Vit

D. He said my iron is fine??> Please can I have your opinion..... ......Thanks so much!  Sandy> > > > > > .>

[Guest guest]

Oh I do want to add something else, that my TSH now for what is worth, is very very low, it is around .03.......and I just read that the T3 suppresses further the TSH..........so is this something to worry about taking the T3 cytomel meds?

From: Margery__W <m.escoffery@ sbcglobal. net>Subject: Re: Help with new results please! / info sourceTo: RT3_T3 (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) comDate: Thursday, July 8, 2010, 9:22 AM

One of the pages on Moderator Nick's website has in-depth info on dosing and how to proceed, here's the link: http://www.thyroid- rt3.com/dosing. htmSpecifically, starting from Natural Thyroid (including ERFA), here's the link: http://www.thyroid- rt3.com/starting 1.htm> > > From: sandra weisenthal <interart81 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>> Subject: Help with new results please!> To: RT3_T3 (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com> Date: Wednesday, July 7, 2010, 3:03 PM> > >  > > > > > > > My new results are this:> -FT3:  4.5> -FT4:  1.3  (.8--1.8)> -RT3: 405> -Thyroid antibodies: 80 (<25)> -Iron 108 (50--200)> -Ferritin 106 (10--291)> -Cortisol AM (blood): 20 (5--25)> -Vit D3: 37>  > I know my RT3 is too high; the doc said to start with 12.5mg mid-day and cut down on my thyroid (dessicated) to 1 grain/day (currently 2 grains). Also definitely need to increase Vit D. He said my iron is fine??> Please can I have

your opinion..... ......Thanks so much!  Sandy> > > > > > .>

[Guest guest]

Low TSH si pretty normal weiht this type of thyroid resistance. It will

not hurt anything. BUT I would stop the Natural thyroid completely and

just start Raising the T3 every 3-5 days as long as oy uhave no bad

symptoms from it such as worsening anxiety. T3 uses cortiosl so it does

nto HURT the adrenals btu if oy are nto making enough cortils as it is

and it uses even more it can unmask weak adrenals. If this is the caes

you need ot support your adrneals properly to heal whether on T3 or

natural so it only makes sense to support your adnrelas well enough ot

utilize T3 properly.,

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

http://artisticgrooming.net/

Oh I do want to add something else, that my TSH now for

what is worth, is very very low, it is around .03.......and I just read

that the T3 suppresses further the TSH..........so is this something to

worry about taking the T3 cytomel meds?

From: Margery__W <m.escoffery@ sbcglobal. net>

Subject: Re: Help with new results please! / info source

To: RT3_T3 (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com

Date: Thursday, July 8, 2010, 9:22 AM

 

One of the pages on Moderator Nick's website has

in-depth info on dosing and how to proceed, here's the link:

http://www.thyroid- rt3.com/dosing. htm

Specifically, starting from Natural Thyroid (including ERFA), here's

the link:

http://www.thyroid- rt3.com/starting 1.htm

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> From: sandra weisenthal <interart81 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>

> Subject: Help with new results please!

> To: RT3_T3 (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com

> Date: Wednesday, July 7, 2010, 3:03 PM

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> My new results are this:

> -FT3:   4.5

> -FT4:   1.3   (.8--1.8)

> -RT3:  405

> -Thyroid antibodies:  80 (<25)

> -Iron 108  (50--200)

> -Ferritin  106  (10--291)

> -Cortisol AM (blood):  20  (5--25)

> -Vit D3:  37

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> I know my RT3 is too high; the doc said to start with 12.5mg

mid-day and cut down on my thyroid (dessicated) to 1 grain/day

(currently 2 grains).  Also definitely need to increase Vit D.  He

said my iron is fine??

> Please can I have your opinion..... ......Thanks so much!   Sandy

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one of my major complaints is weak adrenals (although the doctors claim I don't have it so much) but I have a lot of weight loss esp. in my face if i don't take the isocort. i take now around 3-4 in AM and 2 in PM......if i stop the thyroid med completely, then how do i know when (and if ) to go back on them? don't i have to stop cytomel in order to test properly when i take another exam? sorry for being so ignorant......i can't seem to grasp all this.....

From: Margery__W <m.escoffery@ sbcglobal. net>Subject: Re: Help with new results please! / info sourceTo: RT3_T3 (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) comDate: Thursday, July 8, 2010, 9:22 AM

One of the pages on Moderator Nick's website has in-depth info on dosing and how to proceed, here's the link: http://www.thyroid- rt3.com/dosing. htmSpecifically, starting from Natural Thyroid (including ERFA), here's the link: http://www.thyroid- rt3.com/starting 1.htm> > > From: sandra weisenthal <interart81 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>> Subject: Help with new results please!> To: RT3_T3 (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com> Date: Wednesday, July 7, 2010, 3:03 PM> > > Â > > > > > > > My new results are this:> -FT3:Â Â 4.5> -FT4:Â Â 1.3Â Â (.8--1.8)> -RT3:Â

405> -Thyroid antibodies: 80 (<25)> -Iron 108 (50--200)> -Ferritin 106 (10--291)> -Cortisol AM (blood): 20 (5--25)> -Vit D3: 37>  > I know my RT3 is too high; the doc said to start with 12.5mg mid-day and cut down on my thyroid (dessicated) to 1 grain/day (currently 2 grains). Also definitely need to increase Vit D. He said my iron is fine??> Please can I have your opinion..... ......Thanks so much!  Sandy> > > > > > .>

[Guest guest]

, do you think I can go gradually off the other 1 g. of NDT . I as of today reduced by 1 g. and I thought maybe in 2 days go down to 1/2 g., and then another few days off completely...........? And then start the gradual increase of the T3? And by how much should I increase the T3 say every 3 days? and up to how much over what period of time?

From: Margery__W <m.escoffery@ sbcglobal. net>Subject: Re: Help with new results please! / info sourceTo: RT3_T3 (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) comDate: Thursday, July 8, 2010, 9:22 AM

One of the pages on Moderator Nick's website has in-depth info on dosing and how to proceed, here's the link: http://www.thyroid- rt3.com/dosing. htmSpecifically, starting from Natural Thyroid (including ERFA), here's the link: http://www.thyroid- rt3.com/starting 1.htm> > > From: sandra weisenthal <interart81 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>> Subject: Help with new results please!> To: RT3_T3 (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com> Date: Wednesday, July 7, 2010, 3:03 PM> > > Â > > > > > > > My new results are this:> -FT3:Â Â 4.5> -FT4:Â Â 1.3Â Â (.8--1.8)> -RT3:Â

405> -Thyroid antibodies: 80 (<25)> -Iron 108 (50--200)> -Ferritin 106 (10--291)> -Cortisol AM (blood): 20 (5--25)> -Vit D3: 37>  > I know my RT3 is too high; the doc said to start with 12.5mg mid-day and cut down on my thyroid (dessicated) to 1 grain/day (currently 2 grains). Also definitely need to increase Vit D. He said my iron is fine??> Please can I have your opinion..... ......Thanks so much!  Sandy> > > > > > .>

[Guest guest]

No You never just stop T3. It si like any thyroid med in that it needs

ot be tested early in he AM before your first dose, but norkal dosing

the day prior. This is called a steady serum state, and what you need

to knwo,.

You CAN taper off the NDT isf that makes oyu feel better, btu there is

NO NEED to taper off it. You arereplaceing the active hormone in it you

would be stoppign and T4 takes 4-6 weeks to degrade in the system, so

it si stil there for that long after you stop taking ti.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

http://artisticgrooming.net/

, do you think I can go gradually off the other 1

g. of NDT .  I as of today reduced by 1 g. and I thought maybe in 2

days go down to 1/2 g., and then another few days off

completely...........?  And then start the gradual increase of the

T3?   And by how much should I increase the T3 say every 3 days?   and

up to how much over what period of time?

From: Margery__W <m.escoffery@ sbcglobal. net>

Subject: Re: Help with new results please! / info source

To: RT3_T3 (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com

Date: Thursday, July 8, 2010, 9:22 AM

 

One of the pages on Moderator Nick's

website has in-depth info on dosing and how to proceed, here's the

link:

http://www.thyroid- rt3.com/dosing. htm

Specifically, starting from Natural Thyroid (including ERFA), here's

the link:

http://www.thyroid- rt3.com/starting 1.htm

>

>

> From: sandra weisenthal <interart81 (AT) yahoo (DOT)

com>

> Subject: Help with new results please!

> To: RT3_T3 (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com

> Date: Wednesday, July 7, 2010, 3:03 PM

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> My new results are this:

> -FT3:   4.5

> -FT4:   1.3   (.8--1.8)

> -RT3:  405

> -Thyroid antibodies:  80 (<25)

> -Iron 108  (50--200)

> -Ferritin  106  (10--291)

> -Cortisol AM (blood):  20  (5--25)

> -Vit D3:  37

>  

> I know my RT3 is too high; the doc said to start with 12.5mg

mid-day and cut down on my thyroid (dessicated) to 1 grain/day

(currently 2 grains).  Also definitely need to increase Vit D.  He

said my iron is fine??

> Please can I have your opinion..... ......Thanks so much!   Sandy

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[Guest guest]

No You never just stop T3. It si like any thyroid med in that it needs

ot be tested early in he AM before your first dose, but norkal dosing

the day prior. This is called a steady serum state, and what you need

to knwo,.

You CAN taper off the NDT isf that makes oyu feel better, btu there is

NO NEED to taper off it. You arereplaceing the active hormone in it you

would be stoppign and T4 takes 4-6 weeks to degrade in the system, so

it si stil there for that long after you stop taking ti.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

http://artisticgrooming.net/

, do you think I can go gradually off the other 1

g. of NDT .  I as of today reduced by 1 g. and I thought maybe in 2

days go down to 1/2 g., and then another few days off

completely...........?  And then start the gradual increase of the

T3?   And by how much should I increase the T3 say every 3 days?   and

up to how much over what period of time?

From: Margery__W <m.escoffery@ sbcglobal. net>

Subject: Re: Help with new results please! / info source

To: RT3_T3 (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com

Date: Thursday, July 8, 2010, 9:22 AM

 

One of the pages on Moderator Nick's

website has in-depth info on dosing and how to proceed, here's the

link:

http://www.thyroid- rt3.com/dosing. htm

Specifically, starting from Natural Thyroid (including ERFA), here's

the link:

http://www.thyroid- rt3.com/starting 1.htm

>

>

> From: sandra weisenthal <interart81 (AT) yahoo (DOT)

com>

> Subject: Help with new results please!

> To: RT3_T3 (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com

> Date: Wednesday, July 7, 2010, 3:03 PM

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> My new results are this:

> -FT3:   4.5

> -FT4:   1.3   (.8--1.8)

> -RT3:  405

> -Thyroid antibodies:  80 (<25)

> -Iron 108  (50--200)

> -Ferritin  106  (10--291)

> -Cortisol AM (blood):  20  (5--25)

> -Vit D3:  37

>  

> I know my RT3 is too high; the doc said to start with 12.5mg

mid-day and cut down on my thyroid (dessicated) to 1 grain/day

(currently 2 grains).  Also definitely need to increase Vit D.  He

said my iron is fine??

> Please can I have your opinion..... ......Thanks so much!   Sandy

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[Guest guest]

No You never just stop T3. It si like any thyroid med in that it needs

ot be tested early in he AM before your first dose, but norkal dosing

the day prior. This is called a steady serum state, and what you need

to knwo,.

You CAN taper off the NDT isf that makes oyu feel better, btu there is

NO NEED to taper off it. You arereplaceing the active hormone in it you

would be stoppign and T4 takes 4-6 weeks to degrade in the system, so

it si stil there for that long after you stop taking ti.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

http://artisticgrooming.net/

, do you think I can go gradually off the other 1

g. of NDT .  I as of today reduced by 1 g. and I thought maybe in 2

days go down to 1/2 g., and then another few days off

completely...........?  And then start the gradual increase of the

T3?   And by how much should I increase the T3 say every 3 days?   and

up to how much over what period of time?

From: Margery__W <m.escoffery@ sbcglobal. net>

Subject: Re: Help with new results please! / info source

To: RT3_T3 (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com

Date: Thursday, July 8, 2010, 9:22 AM

 

One of the pages on Moderator Nick's

website has in-depth info on dosing and how to proceed, here's the

link:

http://www.thyroid- rt3.com/dosing. htm

Specifically, starting from Natural Thyroid (including ERFA), here's

the link:

http://www.thyroid- rt3.com/starting 1.htm

>

>

> From: sandra weisenthal <interart81 (AT) yahoo (DOT)

com>

> Subject: Help with new results please!

> To: RT3_T3 (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com

> Date: Wednesday, July 7, 2010, 3:03 PM

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> My new results are this:

> -FT3:   4.5

> -FT4:   1.3   (.8--1.8)

> -RT3:  405

> -Thyroid antibodies:  80 (<25)

> -Iron 108  (50--200)

> -Ferritin  106  (10--291)

> -Cortisol AM (blood):  20  (5--25)

> -Vit D3:  37

>  

> I know my RT3 is too high; the doc said to start with 12.5mg

mid-day and cut down on my thyroid (dessicated) to 1 grain/day

(currently 2 grains).  Also definitely need to increase Vit D.  He

said my iron is fine??

> Please can I have your opinion..... ......Thanks so much!   Sandy

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[Guest guest]

>don't i have to stop cytomel in order to test properly when i take another

exam?  sorry for being so ignorant......i can't seem to grasp all this.....

You stay on thyroid meds for tests but don't take them for 12 hours

before the test

Nick

--

for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

www.thyroid-rt3.com

[Guest guest]

>m I to understand from Nick's site that I have to eliminate ALL dessicated

thyroid ........ and then re-introduce it?  Or can I stay on the 1 grain, I am

currently taking nature-thyroid.

The proven method of clearing RT3 related resistance is to go over to

T3 only for a minimum of 12 weeks.

After that some people successfully swap back to Natural and others

find they do better on T3 only.

Partial T4/T3 mixes of various ratios may work but we lack sufficient

data

Nick

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for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

www.thyroid-rt3.com

[Guest guest]

>m I to understand from Nick's site that I have to eliminate ALL dessicated

thyroid ........ and then re-introduce it?  Or can I stay on the 1 grain, I am

currently taking nature-thyroid.

The proven method of clearing RT3 related resistance is to go over to

T3 only for a minimum of 12 weeks.

After that some people successfully swap back to Natural and others

find they do better on T3 only.

Partial T4/T3 mixes of various ratios may work but we lack sufficient

data

Nick

--

for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

www.thyroid-rt3.com

[Guest guest]

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>, do you think I can go gradually off the other 1 g. of NDT

No need, as long as you replace the T3 in it immediately (9mcg per

grain) the T4 levels sink over a period of weeks so you don't notice

it on a day to day basis

Take an extra 12.5 of T3 and stop the natural the same day

Nick

--

for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

www.thyroid-rt3.com

[Guest guest]

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>, do you think I can go gradually off the other 1 g. of NDT

No need, as long as you replace the T3 in it immediately (9mcg per

grain) the T4 levels sink over a period of weeks so you don't notice

it on a day to day basis

Take an extra 12.5 of T3 and stop the natural the same day

Nick

--

for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

www.thyroid-rt3.com

[Guest guest]

I am on 12.5 of T3 that I started 4 days ago, and l grain (down from 2 grains) of NDT. I plan to replace the other grain of NDT with another 12.5 mcg of T3 as per your suggestion. Do I have to continue however to increase T3 after this since the maximum NDT that I had been taking was 2 grains? And when I take it, do I take one first thing in the morning, and then the 2nd around noon or 1PM? I just want to be certain. Then when should I retest, in 3 months?>>, do you think I can go gradually off the other 1 g. of NDTNo need, as long as you replace the T3 in it immediately (9mcg pergrain) the T4 levels sink over a period of weeks so you don't noticeit on a day to day basisTake an extra 12.5 of T3 and stop the natural the same dayNick-- for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to www.thyroid-rt3.com

[Guest guest]

>And when I take it, do I take one first thing in the morning, and then the 2nd

around noon or 1PM?   I just want to be certain.   Then when should I retest, in

3 months?

You will need a lot more than that.

The 2 grains is roughly equivalent to 50 of T3 as the T4 is turning

into T3 in your body. At that dose level your own thyroid will still

be putting out T4 and T3 as well and we went to replace that with

extra T3 so after a several weeks you will have built up to somewhere

around the 75 to 125 mark and be taking it spread out through the day.

Have a read through here

http://thyroid-rt3.com/dosing.htm

It describes the process

Also have a look through the rest of this site, it will answer a lot

of your questions

www.thyroid-rt3.com

Nick

[Guest guest]

I have v. important question please, my FT3 was 4.5 and my RT3 was 405....if I go by the ratio, do I need T3, I mean is this my problem? The doctor only said my RT3 was 'slightly elevated' but didn't say anything about the ratio which I am just reading here.......pls tell me if my ratio falls low or within normal and if I need to take the T3.........(which I already am)........S.>And when I take it, do I take one first thing in the morning, and then the 2nd around noon or 1PM? I just want to be certain. Then when should I retest, in 3 months?You will need a lot more than that.The 2 grains is roughly equivalent to 50 of T3 as the T4 is turninginto T3 in your body. At that dose level your own thyroid will stillbe putting out T4 and T3 as well and we went to replace that withextra T3 so after a several weeks you will have built up to somewherearound the 75 to 125 mark and be taking it spread out through the day.Have a read through herehttp://thyroid-rt3.com/dosing.htmIt describes the processAlso have a look through the rest of this site, it will answer a lotof your

questionswww.thyroid-rt3.comNick

[Guest guest]

>I have v. important question please, my FT3 was 4.5 and my RT3 was 405....if I

go by the ratio, do I need T3, I mean is this my problem?  The doctor only said

my RT3 was 'slightly elevated' but didn't say anything about the ratio which I

am just reading here.......pls tell me if my ratio falls low or within normal

and if I need to take the T3.........(which I already am)........S.

Ratio of around 10 to 1, you need to go onto T3 only. Have a read

through the web site.

Nick

[Guest guest]

i did read somewhere that 10 was normal, what is normal ratio then?>I have v. important question please, my FT3 was 4.5 and my RT3 was 405....if I go by the ratio, do I need T3, I mean is this my problem? The doctor only said my RT3 was 'slightly elevated' but didn't say anything about the ratio which I am just reading here.......pls tell me if my ratio falls low or within normal and if I need to take the T3.........(which I already am)........S.Ratio of around 10 to 1, you need to go onto T3 only. Have a readthrough the web site.Nick

[Guest guest]

sorry nick, i ask b/c i read that normal is 10 and isn't my ratio 11? (ft3 4.5/ rt3 405)>I have v. important question please, my FT3 was 4.5 and my RT3 was 405....if I go by the ratio, do I need T3, I mean is this my problem? The doctor only said my RT3 was 'slightly elevated' but didn't say anything about the ratio which I am just reading here.......pls tell me if my ratio falls low or within normal and if I need to take the T3.........(which I already am)........S.Ratio of around 10 to 1, you need to go onto T3 only. Have a readthrough the web site.Nick

[Guest guest]

10:1 is normal for TOTAL T3 but for FREE t3 to Rt3 it shoudl eb 20:1

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>> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

>> http://faqhelp.webs.com/

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>> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

>> http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

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sorry nick, i ask b/c i read that normal is 10 and isn't

my ratio 11?  (ft3 4.5/ rt3 405)

>I have v. important question please, my FT3 was 4.5 and my RT3 was

405....if I go by the ratio, do I need T3, I mean is this my problem? 

The doctor only said my RT3 was 'slightly elevated' but didn't say

anything about the ratio which I am just reading here.......pls tell me

if my ratio falls low or within normal and if I need to take the

T3.........(which I already am)........S.

Ratio of around 10 to 1, you need to go onto T3 only. Have a read

through the web site.

Nick

[Guest guest]

tks valerie, i hope this is the solution, tomorrow i start to increase t3 and take away all t4......>I have v. important question please, my FT3 was 4.5 and my RT3 was 405....if I go by the ratio, do I need T3, I mean is this my problem? The doctor only said my RT3 was 'slightly elevated' but didn't say anything about the ratio which I am just reading here.......pls tell me if my ratio falls low or within normal and if I need to take the T3.........( which I already am)........S.Ratio of around 10 to 1, you need to go onto T3 only. Have a readthrough the web site.Nick

[Guest guest]

It looks to me like your RT3 is high. I went on T3 as soon as I found out mine was high, and it makes me feel much better. I had to start very slow and only increase after at least a week or two. I'm so glad I want on it, it makes me feel much better.

<>Roni

Immortality exists!

It's called knowledge!

Just because something isn't seen

doesn't mean it's not there<>>I have v. important question please, my FT3 was 4.5 and my RT3 was 405....if I go by the ratio, do I need T3, I mean is this my problem? The doctor only said my RT3 was 'slightly elevated' but didn't say anything about the ratio which I am just reading here.......pls tell me if my ratio falls low or within normal and if I need to take the T3.........(which I already am)........S.Ratio of around 10 to 1, you need to go onto T3 only. Have a readthrough the web site.Nick

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Did you gradually increase it as well and take away all T4? I started last thursday and thought I would take away the remaining 1 grain NDT tomorrow and increase T3 by 12.5mcg and keep going after that.......I'm a bit scared to do this, it's all new to me. I hope my hair grows back if this is resolved! If this works I can't believe that after so many doctors, both endos and natural docs, and 8 years of this, that no one ever tested my RT3 and that I had to suggest it...........! >I have v. important question please, my FT3 was 4.5 and my RT3 was 405....if I go by the ratio, do I need T3, I mean is this my problem? The doctor only said my RT3 was 'slightly elevated' but didn't say anything about the ratio which I am just reading here.......pls tell me if my ratio falls low or within normal and if I need to take the T3.........( which I already am)........S.Ratio of around 10 to 1, you need to go onto T3 only. Have a readthrough the web site.Nick

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I was on Armour when I switched. I went directly to an equivalent does of T3 per Nick's website. I increased every four or five days. After each increase I would feel better, and then increasingly sleepier. When I got close to 100 mcgs, I stopped getting sleepy. I say sleepy, but I also mean sluggish and hypo. If your iron is ok, and your adrenals are either ok or supported, then the worst thing to fear is feeling a little hypo from time to time. What you have to look forward to is that this diminishes, and when you look back you realize you are feeling better. Ann

Did you gradually increase it as well and take away all T4? I started last thursday and thought I would take away the remaining 1 grain NDT tomorrow and increase T3 by 12.5mcg and keep going after that.......I'm a bit scared to do this, it's all new to me. I hope my hair grows back if this is resolved! If this works I can't believe that after so many doctors, both endos and natural docs, and 8 years of this, that no one ever tested my RT3 and that I had to suggest it...........! >I have v. important question please, my FT3 was 4.5 and my RT3 was 405....if I go by the ratio, do I need T3, I mean is this my problem? The doctor only said my RT3 was 'slightly elevated' but didn't say anything about the ratio which I am just reading here.......pls tell me if my ratio falls low or within normal and if I need to take the T3.........( which I already am)........S.Ratio of around 10 to 1, you need to go onto T3 only. Have a readthrough the web site.Nick

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I can tell you that I stopped all med with T4 in it. They tried to reintroduce T4 twice, but I just got sick again. I was extremely careful about increasing the T3 and started out at 10 mcg divided in 2 doses. Then as my body started talking to me (more pain, more tiredness) I increased 5mcg and then went for another two weeks. I continued this. I am up to 70 mcg right now divided into 4 doses 5 hours apart.

I have atrial fibrillation and I wanted to make sure that the T3 didn't hit my heart hard, so was especially cautious with the increases. I am so angry at the doctors who have been undertreating me for about 50 years. They have done a good job of keeping me ill.

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doesn't mean it's not there<>>I have v. important question please, my FT3 was 4.5 and my RT3 was 405....if I go by the ratio, do I need T3, I mean is this my problem? The doctor only said my RT3 was 'slightly elevated' but didn't say anything about the ratio which I am just reading here.......pls tell me if my ratio falls low or within normal and if I need to take the T3.........( which I already am)........S.Ratio of around 10 to 1, you need to go onto T3 only. Have a readthrough the web site.Nick