Re: danger of no thyroid med

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>Since finding out my RT3 is 4 I have stopped taking Synthroid entirely. Is

this dangerous?

>It will be a while before I can take any T3 to clear. First I need to repair

adrenals, up my ferritin, pottasium and address possible Aldosterone issues.

>I still have my thryroid but how long can I go with no meds? And is this even

recommended

Depends how much you were on, how much you need, and the state of your

own thyroid.

It's not recommended and could be dangerous

Nick

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Thyroid is not a medication, it is a hormone that your body needs to keep your brain, heart, lungs, liver, kidneys, veins, arteries and everything else in your body working. Stopping it totally is not good because the body will start to decay in many ways that are not even apparant, and some that are. Is it possible to get to another doctor or clinic and get the T3 that you need? I was first started on it by my rheumy. I went to him because of all the pain I was having and the thyroid tests were in with tons of other tests. When it showed how much RT3 I had, I asked him to start me on T3. He started me on 5 mcg twice a day, and every week or two according to how my body felt I would add 1 5mcg pill.

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doesn't mean it's not there<>>>Since finding out my RT3 is 4 I have stopped taking Synthroid entirely. Is this dangerous? >It will be a while before I can take any T3 to clear. First I need to repair adrenals, up my ferritin, pottasium and address possible Aldosterone issues. >I still have my thryroid but how long can I go with no meds? And is this even recommendedDepends how much you were on, how much you need, and the state of yourown thyroid.It's not recommended and could be dangerousNick-- for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to www.thyroid-rt3.com------------------------------------We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.

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Thanks Nick and Roni-

I was taking .112mcg day.

t3 78 (68-181)

free t4 1.5 (.9-1.8)

tsh 1.7 (.35-5.5)

free t3 2.2 (2.4-4.2)

reverse t3 492 (90-350)

rt3 4.47

I have started to see a new doc. and will have 2nd appt 7/15. I plan on asking to go on t3 but thought I first needed to address my low adrenals (currently on Val's rec. dosage) and get up my ferritin up to 50 before beginning T3 treatment. Am I supposed to start immediately or do I risk adverse reactions b/c of not treating other issues first?I am eager to begin treatment but I am so confused!! Isn't the Synthroid just making me sicker with such a bad rt3?

Holly

To: RT3_T3 Sent: Sun, July 11, 2010 4:17:10 PMSubject: Re: danger of no thyroid med

Thyroid is not a medication, it is a hormone that your body needs to keep your brain, heart, lungs, liver, kidneys, veins, arteries and everything else in your body working. Stopping it totally is not good because the body will start to decay in many ways that are not even apparant, and some that are. Is it possible to get to another doctor or clinic and get the T3 that you need? I was first started on it by my rheumy. I went to him because of all the pain I was having and the thyroid tests were in with tons of other tests. When it showed how much RT3 I had, I asked him to start me on T3. He started me on 5 mcg twice a day, and every week or two according to how my body felt I would add 1 5mcg pill.

<>Roni

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It's called knowledge!

Just because something isn't seen

doesn't mean it's not there<>>>Since finding out my RT3 is 4 I have stopped taking Synthroid entirely. Is this dangerous? >It will be a while before I can take any T3 to clear. First I need to repair adrenals, up my ferritin, pottasium and address possible Aldosterone issues. >I still have my thryroid but how long can I go with no meds? And is this even recommendedDepends how much you were on, how much you need, and the state of yourown thyroid.It's not recommended and could be dangerousNick-- for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to www.thyroid- rt3.com------------ --------- --------- ------We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor. Yahoo!

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That's what it did to me. I didn't start feeling better until I started the T3 only. Your RT3 is worse than mine was at 8.7(or around there, can't remember exactly but it's close). They tried twice to give me T4 and I got very sick both times. They also tried no thyroid, but I

was feeling so bad I didn't stay that way for more than a couple of weeks. I felt like I was really dying. I do hope they can get things straightened out for you. It's terrible when your body just isn't working right.

<>Roni

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It's called knowledge!

Just because something isn't seen

doesn't mean it's not there<>>>Since finding out my RT3 is 4 I have stopped taking Synthroid entirely. Is this dangerous? >It will be a while before I can take any T3 to clear. First I need to repair adrenals, up my ferritin, pottasium and address possible Aldosterone issues. >I still have my thryroid but how long can I go with no meds? And is this even recommendedDepends how much you were on, how much you need, and the state of yourown thyroid.It's not recommended and could be dangerousNick-- for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to www.thyroid- rt3.com------------ --------- --------- ------We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.

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Your Ferritin is not as bad as many of us have to begin with. Mine was 19, and I

waited until it was close to 40 before beginning T3. The standard rule is to

treat the adrenals first if needed, but I doubt you'll have to wait long at all

since you've got your saliva tests done and are set to go. Do you know about

Bluebonnet Iron 27 mg to get your ferritin up? It helped me and many others here

a whole lot, and is not constipating nor stomach upsetting. You could ask your

question again of Val and Nick regarding your Synthroid if neither has answered

it within 24 hours and just put the word " Bump " to your question about it and

put your question at the beginning of your post. I've seen Val answer both ways

about it.

I had major depression and anxiety as well on Synthroid which has resolved over

the last few months of being on T3 only. Part of what helped tremendously too

was just knowing that it was hypothyroid-induced.

Kerry

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> >>Since finding out my RT3 is 4 I have stopped taking Synthroid entirely.  Is

this

> >>dangerous? 

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> >>It will be a while before I can take any T3 to clear. First I need to repair

> >>adrenals, up my ferritin, pottasium and address possible Aldosterone issues.

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> >>I still have my thryroid but how long can I go with no meds? And is this

even

> >>recommended

> >

> >Depends how much you were on, how much you need, and the state of your

> >own thyroid.

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> >It's not recommended and could be dangerous

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> >Nick

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> >for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

> >

> >www.thyroid- rt3.com

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> >------------ --------- --------- ------

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> >We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our experiences.

> >Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor. Yahoo!

Groups

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Kerry-

So kind of you to reply! I can't believe I've found this place - some place where people actually get it.

I'm thankful my ferritin is not lower and yes I know about bluebonnet and it's due to arrive tues so I'll start it with vit c. Do you know how much to take with each dose? Val mentioned taking iron 2x day.

Thanks for the bump tip - I'm just starting to learn the ropes around here. Glad to hear your anxiety and depress have improved. I feel like I'm living in a torturous state. When I got these labs back it was finally a validation of sorts. To think this is all fixable... I never would have imagined. You mentioned you're on T3- did you clear yet?

Holly

To: RT3_T3 Sent: Sun, July 11, 2010 8:46:50 PMSubject: Re: danger of no thyroid med

Your Ferritin is not as bad as many of us have to begin with. Mine was 19, and I waited until it was close to 40 before beginning T3. The standard rule is to treat the adrenals first if needed, but I doubt you'll have to wait long at all since you've got your saliva tests done and are set to go. Do you know about Bluebonnet Iron 27 mg to get your ferritin up? It helped me and many others here a whole lot, and is not constipating nor stomach upsetting. You could ask your question again of Val and Nick regarding your Synthroid if neither has answered it within 24 hours and just put the word "Bump" to your question about it and put your question at the beginning of your post. I've seen Val answer both ways about it.I had major depression and anxiety as well on Synthroid which has resolved over the last few months of being on T3 only. Part of what helped tremendously too was just knowing that it was hypothyroid-induced.Kerry > >> >>> >>Since finding out my RT3 is 4 I have stopped taking Synthroid entirely. Is this > >>dangerous? > >>> >>It will be a while before I can take any T3 to clear. First I need to repair > >>adrenals, up my

ferritin, pottasium and address possible Aldosterone issues. > >>> >>I still have my thryroid but how long can I go with no meds? And is this even > >>recommended> >> >Depends how much you were on, how much you need, and the state of your> >own thyroid.> >> >It's not recommended and could be dangerous> >> >Nick> >> >-- > >> >for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to > >> >www.thyroid- rt3.com> >> >> >------------ --------- --------- ------> >> >We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our experiences. > >Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor. Yahoo! Groups > >Links> >> >> >>

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Roni-

Thanks for your kind words. Nice to know someone's been here and feeling

better. I'll take any improvements at this point. The t4 makes me feel nauseas

but I don't want to take chances with my body and decay. I can take until I see

doc again.

I too feel like I am dying. I feel so close to the end and this seems my only

way out. 2 little kids and a wonderful husband I need to give back to. Wish me

luck...

Holly

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> >

> >Since finding out my RT3 is 4 I have stopped taking Synthroid entirely.  Is

this dangerous? 

> >It will be a while before I can take any T3 to clear. First I need to repair

adrenals, up my ferritin, pottasium and address possible Aldosterone issues.

> >I still have my thryroid but how long can I go with no meds? And is this even

recommended

>

> Depends how much you were on, how much you need, and the state of your

> own thyroid.

>

> It's not recommended and could be dangerous

>

> Nick

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> for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

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> www.thyroid- rt3.com

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> ------------ --------- --------- ------

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> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our experiences.

Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor. Yahoo! Groups

Links

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I was afraid to be without the T4 also, but once I understood that the T4 is used to make the T3 (which is the active hormone our body uses (some of it also breaks down to T2 and T1), I was not afraid any longer. After all, if the T3 is giving me what my body needs, then I reasoned that it didn't need the T4 at all since all it does is make T3. Once I was on the T3 for a few days the feeling dying started to go away, and I don't feel that way now at all.

<>Roni

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Just because something isn't seen

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Subject: Re: danger of no thyroid medTo: RT3_T3 Date: Sunday, July 11, 2010, 6:37 PM

Roni-Thanks for your kind words. Nice to know someone's been here and feeling better. I'll take any improvements at this point. The t4 makes me feel nauseas but I don't want to take chances with my body and decay. I can take until I see doc again. I too feel like I am dying. I feel so close to the end and this seems my only way out. 2 little kids and a wonderful husband I need to give back to. Wish me luck...Holly> > >> >Since finding out my RT3 is 4 I have stopped taking Synthroid entirely. Is this dangerous? > >It will be a while before I can take any T3 to clear. First I need to repair adrenals, up my ferritin, pottasium and address possible Aldosterone issues. > >I still have my thryroid but how long can I go with no meds? And is this even recommended> > Depends how much you were on, how much you need, and the state of your> own thyroid.> > It's not recommended and could be dangerous> > Nick> > -- > > for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to > > www.thyroid- rt3.com> > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > We are

not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.

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>I am eager to begin treatment but I am so confused!! Isn't the Synthroid just

>making me sicker with such a bad rt3?

>

Difficult to call, it is mainly going to reverse, we don't know the

state of your own thyroid though so you may go even more hypo if you

just stop it.

Val might be able to come in here with suggestions, I am tempted to

say drop it to 50 while you get ferritin and adrenals working but am

not experienced in this area

Nick

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for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

www.thyroid-rt3.com

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I know I took 3 or 4 pills twice a day with Vit C. I'd imagine about the same

for you and to recheck it in 2 or 3 months with a complete iron panel. Optimal

is 70-90.

I cleared last month but have other complicating issues including very low

aldosterone and have had to take the last 6 weeks just to get up to 1 tab on the

medication for it, Florinef, to avoid headaches. But the medication is helping

and I definitely feel much better. I'm off the couch where I've been for the

past year!

Kerry

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> > >>

> > >>Since finding out my RT3 is 4 I have stopped taking Synthroid

entirely.  Is

> >this

> >

> > >>dangerous? 

> > >>

> > >>It will be a while before I can take any T3 to clear. First I need to

repair

>

> > >>adrenals, up my ferritin, pottasium and address possible Aldosterone

issues.

>

> > >>

> > >>I still have my thryroid but how long can I go with no meds? And is this

even

> >

> > >>recommended

> > >

> > >Depends how much you were on, how much you need, and the state of your

> > >own thyroid.

> > >

> > >It's not recommended and could be dangerous

> > >

> > >Nick

> > >

> > >--

> > >

> > >for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

> > >

> > >www.thyroid- rt3.com

> > >

> > >

> > >------------ --------- --------- ------

> > >

> > >We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our

experiences.

>

> > >Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor. Yahoo!

Groups

> >

> > >Links

> > >

> > >

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I thought you're out of luck unless you take NDT to get T1 and T2. Are you sure?

The issue isn't taking T3 and worrying about missing T4, it's the time before

starting T3.

Kerry

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> > >

> > >Since finding out my RT3 is 4 I have stopped taking Synthroid

entirely.� Is this dangerous?�

> > >It will be a while before I can take any T3 to clear. First I need to

repair adrenals, up my ferritin, pottasium and address possible Aldosterone

issues.

> > >I still have my thryroid but how long can I go with no meds? And is this

even recommended

> >

> > Depends how much you were on, how much you need, and the state of your

> > own thyroid.

> >

> > It's not recommended and could be dangerous

> >

> > Nick

> >

> > --

> >

> > for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

> >

> > www.thyroid- rt3.com

> >

> >

> > ------------ --------- --------- ------

> >

> > We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our

experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.

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T2 and T1 are both made from T3, so takign T3 you are not missing out on

them just direct sources of them. I have not known folks ot have

problems oin TY3 onyl wiht only rare exceptions. Most people can make T2

and T1 wihtout problems from T3.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

http://artisticgrooming.net/

> I thought you're out of luck unless you take NDT to get T1 and T2. Are you

sure? The issue isn't taking T3 and worrying about missing T4, it's the time

before starting T3.

>

> Kerry

>

>

>>>

>>>

>>>> Since finding out my RT3 is 4 I have stopped taking Synthroid

entirely.� Is this dangerous?�

>>>> It will be a while before I can take any T3 to clear. First I need to

repair adrenals, up my ferritin, pottasium and address possible Aldosterone

issues.

>>>> I still have my thryroid but how long can I go with no meds? And is this

even recommended

>>>>

>>> Depends how much you were on, how much you need, and the state of your

>>> own thyroid.

>>>

>>> It's not recommended and could be dangerous

>>>

>>> Nick

>>>

>>> --

>>>

>>> for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

>>>

>>> www.thyroid- rt3.com

>>>

>>>

>>> ------------ --------- --------- ------

>>>

>>> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our

experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.

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Yay! Another point for Team T3!

Kerry

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> >>>

> >>>> Since finding out my RT3 is 4 I have stopped taking Synthroid

entirely.� Is this dangerous?�

> >>>> It will be a while before I can take any T3 to clear. First I need to

repair adrenals, up my ferritin, pottasium and address possible Aldosterone

issues.

> >>>> I still have my thryroid but how long can I go with no meds? And is this

even recommended

> >>>>

> >>> Depends how much you were on, how much you need, and the state of your

> >>> own thyroid.

> >>>

> >>> It's not recommended and could be dangerous

> >>>

> >>> Nick

> >>>

> >>> --

> >>>

> >>> for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

> >>>

> >>> www.thyroid- rt3.com

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> ------------ --------- --------- ------

> >>>

> >>> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our

experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.

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T4 takes weeks to decay, so you'll still have it in your system. How soon can you get the T3 only? The T3 lasts about 4 to 5 hours, so it's totally different.

<>Roni

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Subject: Re: danger of no thyroid medTo: RT3_T3 Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 12:35 AM

I thought you're out of luck unless you take NDT to get T1 and T2. Are you sure? The issue isn't taking T3 and worrying about missing T4, it's the time before starting T3.Kerry> > > > >> > >Since finding out my RT3 is 4 I have stopped taking Synthroid entirely.� Is this dangerous?� > > >It will be

a while before I can take any T3 to clear. First I need to repair adrenals, up my ferritin, pottasium and address possible Aldosterone issues. > > >I still have my thryroid but how long can I go with no meds? And is this even recommended> > > > Depends how much you were on, how much you need, and the state of your> > own thyroid.> > > > It's not recommended and could be dangerous> > > > Nick> > > > -- > > > > for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to > > > > www.thyroid- rt3.com> > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > > > We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.