Re: General 'feeling better' question!

August 8, 2010

>

>I will be starting the T3 protocol Monday (when it arrives!) and have talked to

>several people, including a short consult w/ Val. Perhaps I missed this, but

my

>question is, when did anyone start feeling relief from symptoms?

Very personal, depends how hypo you are and what your cortisol/iron

levels are like together with your starting place

It is possible to get some improvement after a few days

Nick

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for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

www.thyroid-rt3.com

For lots of good information of adrenal issues

http://www.nthadrenalsweb.com/

and the adrenal group on

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

August 8, 2010

Hi Nanci,

You know my story but I thought for the sake of the group I would tell you that

things did not get better until about the 13th week when I had clearance. Now

(week 15) all the sore joints are gone, even my Frisbee throwing elbow and the

pain in my left arm that I was afraid was a rotator cuff problem needing

surgery, it is all gone. I do seem to have a headache most mornings and still

feel a bit groggy but my sleep is so much better now that I take 25 mcg before I

go to sleep. It is remarkable.

It has been my experience that you need to hang in there, get on the Cynomel,

increase according to symptoms, decrease according to symptoms, take the Celtic

Sea Salt and lots of it, magnesium (Jigsaw is working really well for me) and

potassium and trust that things will get better. I wish I could tell you that

you will instantly feel better but the road along the way is a bit like a

Minnesota highway after a hard winter, full of potholes and more than just a bit

rough.

Kris

>

> Hi,

>

> I will be starting the T3 protocol Monday (when it arrives!) and have talked

to

> several people, including a short consult w/ Val. Perhaps I missed this, but

my

> question is, when did anyone start feeling relief from symptoms? I know it is

a

> struggle to figure out doses and increases, including the balancing act w/

iron

> and adrenals. It is also a fact that everyone responds differently, at

> different rates. My RT3 ratio is low, 8.4, and I have had 'fibro/cfs'

symptoms

> for over 13 yrs and sometimes I feel like I can take the pain only for one

more

> day. Then, 'if I can just make it till evening and lay down' (but then of

> course there is the struggle to sleep)...

>

> It really helps me a lot and gives me a great deal of hope hearing not only

the

> terrific questions everyone on the board is asking, but it really helps

hearing

> of people doing better, living a better quality of life. I guess I'm throwing

> out a general question: How long did it take for some symptoms to calm down

and

> what were those symptoms? Hope is good, and positive results give hope even

> when a person is having a bad day

>

> Nanci B.

>

August 8, 2010

Hi Nanci,

You know my story but I thought for the sake of the group I would tell you that

things did not get better until about the 13th week when I had clearance. Now

(week 15) all the sore joints are gone, even my Frisbee throwing elbow and the

pain in my left arm that I was afraid was a rotator cuff problem needing

surgery, it is all gone. I do seem to have a headache most mornings and still

feel a bit groggy but my sleep is so much better now that I take 25 mcg before I

go to sleep. It is remarkable.

It has been my experience that you need to hang in there, get on the Cynomel,

increase according to symptoms, decrease according to symptoms, take the Celtic

Sea Salt and lots of it, magnesium (Jigsaw is working really well for me) and

potassium and trust that things will get better. I wish I could tell you that

you will instantly feel better but the road along the way is a bit like a

Minnesota highway after a hard winter, full of potholes and more than just a bit

rough.

Kris

>

> Hi,

>

> I will be starting the T3 protocol Monday (when it arrives!) and have talked

to

> several people, including a short consult w/ Val. Perhaps I missed this, but

my

> question is, when did anyone start feeling relief from symptoms? I know it is

a

> struggle to figure out doses and increases, including the balancing act w/

iron

> and adrenals. It is also a fact that everyone responds differently, at

> different rates. My RT3 ratio is low, 8.4, and I have had 'fibro/cfs'

symptoms

> for over 13 yrs and sometimes I feel like I can take the pain only for one

more

> day. Then, 'if I can just make it till evening and lay down' (but then of

> course there is the struggle to sleep)...

>

> It really helps me a lot and gives me a great deal of hope hearing not only

the

> terrific questions everyone on the board is asking, but it really helps

hearing

> of people doing better, living a better quality of life. I guess I'm throwing

> out a general question: How long did it take for some symptoms to calm down

and

> what were those symptoms? Hope is good, and positive results give hope even

> when a person is having a bad day

>

> Nanci B.

>

August 8, 2010

Hi Nanci,

You know my story but I thought for the sake of the group I would tell you that

things did not get better until about the 13th week when I had clearance. Now

(week 15) all the sore joints are gone, even my Frisbee throwing elbow and the

pain in my left arm that I was afraid was a rotator cuff problem needing

surgery, it is all gone. I do seem to have a headache most mornings and still

feel a bit groggy but my sleep is so much better now that I take 25 mcg before I

go to sleep. It is remarkable.

It has been my experience that you need to hang in there, get on the Cynomel,

increase according to symptoms, decrease according to symptoms, take the Celtic

Sea Salt and lots of it, magnesium (Jigsaw is working really well for me) and

potassium and trust that things will get better. I wish I could tell you that

you will instantly feel better but the road along the way is a bit like a

Minnesota highway after a hard winter, full of potholes and more than just a bit

rough.

Kris

>

> Hi,

>

> I will be starting the T3 protocol Monday (when it arrives!) and have talked

to

> several people, including a short consult w/ Val. Perhaps I missed this, but

my

> question is, when did anyone start feeling relief from symptoms? I know it is

a

> struggle to figure out doses and increases, including the balancing act w/

iron

> and adrenals. It is also a fact that everyone responds differently, at

> different rates. My RT3 ratio is low, 8.4, and I have had 'fibro/cfs'

symptoms

> for over 13 yrs and sometimes I feel like I can take the pain only for one

more

> day. Then, 'if I can just make it till evening and lay down' (but then of

> course there is the struggle to sleep)...

>

> It really helps me a lot and gives me a great deal of hope hearing not only

the

> terrific questions everyone on the board is asking, but it really helps

hearing

> of people doing better, living a better quality of life. I guess I'm throwing

> out a general question: How long did it take for some symptoms to calm down

and

> what were those symptoms? Hope is good, and positive results give hope even

> when a person is having a bad day

>

> Nanci B.

>

August 8, 2010

Thanks Kris!!!I know a few people reading through the site, etc, that are having problems but are not comfortable enough being in charge of their care. I think that when there are posts about how people are doing better (and yes, with the bumps along the way), it empowers people to continue to understand their own bodies and take control. Support from people like you and the others on the board is critical when we all have the 'medical' people and our families telling us that we're nuts to go against the grain. But as I see it, I have to continually ask myself about past treatment (antidepressants, narcotics and God knows what else in those pills)...how's it working for me? NOT!!! It takes

courage to take the road less traveled, and courage is built with hope. Hope is what drives us to new possibilities in feeling better and people getting help on this board gives us all hope.Thanks again. Take it easy today...hot and humid!!NanciTo: RT3_T3 Sent: Sun, August 8, 2010 8:24:06 AMSubject: Re: General 'feeling better' question!

Hi Nanci,

You know my story but I thought for the sake of the group I would tell you that things did not get better until about the 13th week when I had clearance. Now (week 15) all the sore joints are gone, even my Frisbee throwing elbow and the pain in my left arm that I was afraid was a rotator cuff problem needing surgery, it is all gone. I do seem to have a headache most mornings and still feel a bit groggy but my sleep is so much better now that I take 25 mcg before I go to sleep. It is remarkable.

It has been my experience that you need to hang in there, get on the Cynomel, increase according to symptoms, decrease according to symptoms, take the Celtic Sea Salt and lots of it, magnesium (Jigsaw is working really well for me) and potassium and trust that things will get better. I wish I could tell you that you will instantly feel better but the road along the way is a bit like a Minnesota highway after a hard winter, full of potholes and more than just a bit rough.

Kris

>

> Hi,

>

> I will be starting the T3 protocol Monday (when it arrives!) and have talked to

> several people, including a short consult w/ Val. Perhaps I missed this, but my

> question is, when did anyone start feeling relief from symptoms? I know it is a

> struggle to figure out doses and increases, including the balancing act w/ iron

> and adrenals. It is also a fact that everyone responds differently, at

> different rates. My RT3 ratio is low, 8.4, and I have had 'fibro/cfs' symptoms

> for over 13 yrs and sometimes I feel like I can take the pain only for one more

> day. Then, 'if I can just make it till evening and lay down' (but then of

> course there is the struggle to sleep)...

>

> It really helps me a lot and gives me a great deal of hope hearing not only the

> terrific questions everyone on the board is asking, but it really helps hearing

> of people doing better, living a better quality of life. I guess I'm throwing

> out a general question: How long did it take for some symptoms to calm down and

> what were those symptoms? Hope is good, and positive results give hope even

> when a person is having a bad day

>

> Nanci B.

>

August 8, 2010

Hi Nanci, I'm definitely feeling better than I was pre-clearance, when I was

couch bound. Had I tried this protocol 10 or 15 years ago or even 5 years ago I

think it would have been a miracle cure (I'm 62). But since I logged decades of

running hypo on Synthroid and its generics with pulse of 60 and BP of 90/60,

labs that diabolically looked " normal " while really having RT3, there has been

much more damage to repair.

There are long term consequences to the HPA axis to running hypoT. In my case an

adrenal cortex hormone, aldosterone, took the hit. Florinef does not magically

replace your own, so I am not yet feeling all better.

If you have not yet had your saliva cortisol tested 4x/day (canaryclub.org) I

highly recommend you to do so. Besides low ferritin, low and high cortisol also

contribute to RT3, and you definitely want to fix the problem.

Kerry

>

> Hi,

>

> I will be starting the T3 protocol Monday (when it arrives!) and have talked

to

> several people, including a short consult w/ Val. Perhaps I missed this, but

my

> question is, when did anyone start feeling relief from symptoms? I know it is

a

> struggle to figure out doses and increases, including the balancing act w/

iron

> and adrenals. It is also a fact that everyone responds differently, at

> different rates. My RT3 ratio is low, 8.4, and I have had 'fibro/cfs'

symptoms

> for over 13 yrs and sometimes I feel like I can take the pain only for one

more

> day. Then, 'if I can just make it till evening and lay down' (but then of

> course there is the struggle to sleep)...

>

> It really helps me a lot and gives me a great deal of hope hearing not only

the

> terrific questions everyone on the board is asking, but it really helps

hearing

> of people doing better, living a better quality of life. I guess I'm throwing

> out a general question: How long did it take for some symptoms to calm down

and

> what were those symptoms? Hope is good, and positive results give hope even

> when a person is having a bad day

>

> Nanci B.

>

August 8, 2010

Hi Nanci, I'm definitely feeling better than I was pre-clearance, when I was

couch bound. Had I tried this protocol 10 or 15 years ago or even 5 years ago I

think it would have been a miracle cure (I'm 62). But since I logged decades of

running hypo on Synthroid and its generics with pulse of 60 and BP of 90/60,

labs that diabolically looked " normal " while really having RT3, there has been

much more damage to repair.

There are long term consequences to the HPA axis to running hypoT. In my case an

adrenal cortex hormone, aldosterone, took the hit. Florinef does not magically

replace your own, so I am not yet feeling all better.

If you have not yet had your saliva cortisol tested 4x/day (canaryclub.org) I

highly recommend you to do so. Besides low ferritin, low and high cortisol also

contribute to RT3, and you definitely want to fix the problem.

Kerry

>

> Hi,

>

> I will be starting the T3 protocol Monday (when it arrives!) and have talked

to

> several people, including a short consult w/ Val. Perhaps I missed this, but

my

> question is, when did anyone start feeling relief from symptoms? I know it is

a

> struggle to figure out doses and increases, including the balancing act w/

iron

> and adrenals. It is also a fact that everyone responds differently, at

> different rates. My RT3 ratio is low, 8.4, and I have had 'fibro/cfs'

symptoms

> for over 13 yrs and sometimes I feel like I can take the pain only for one

more

> day. Then, 'if I can just make it till evening and lay down' (but then of

> course there is the struggle to sleep)...

>

> It really helps me a lot and gives me a great deal of hope hearing not only

the

> terrific questions everyone on the board is asking, but it really helps

hearing

> of people doing better, living a better quality of life. I guess I'm throwing

> out a general question: How long did it take for some symptoms to calm down

and

> what were those symptoms? Hope is good, and positive results give hope even

> when a person is having a bad day

>

> Nanci B.

>

August 8, 2010

Hi Nanci, I'm definitely feeling better than I was pre-clearance, when I was

couch bound. Had I tried this protocol 10 or 15 years ago or even 5 years ago I

think it would have been a miracle cure (I'm 62). But since I logged decades of

running hypo on Synthroid and its generics with pulse of 60 and BP of 90/60,

labs that diabolically looked " normal " while really having RT3, there has been

much more damage to repair.

There are long term consequences to the HPA axis to running hypoT. In my case an

adrenal cortex hormone, aldosterone, took the hit. Florinef does not magically

replace your own, so I am not yet feeling all better.

If you have not yet had your saliva cortisol tested 4x/day (canaryclub.org) I

highly recommend you to do so. Besides low ferritin, low and high cortisol also

contribute to RT3, and you definitely want to fix the problem.

Kerry

>

> Hi,

>

> I will be starting the T3 protocol Monday (when it arrives!) and have talked

to

> several people, including a short consult w/ Val. Perhaps I missed this, but

my

> question is, when did anyone start feeling relief from symptoms? I know it is

a

> struggle to figure out doses and increases, including the balancing act w/

iron

> and adrenals. It is also a fact that everyone responds differently, at

> different rates. My RT3 ratio is low, 8.4, and I have had 'fibro/cfs'

symptoms

> for over 13 yrs and sometimes I feel like I can take the pain only for one

more

> day. Then, 'if I can just make it till evening and lay down' (but then of

> course there is the struggle to sleep)...

>

> It really helps me a lot and gives me a great deal of hope hearing not only

the

> terrific questions everyone on the board is asking, but it really helps

hearing

> of people doing better, living a better quality of life. I guess I'm throwing

> out a general question: How long did it take for some symptoms to calm down

and

> what were those symptoms? Hope is good, and positive results give hope even

> when a person is having a bad day

>

> Nanci B.

>

August 8, 2010

Hi Kerry!Great to hear you're still doing well. I'm starting the protocol hopefully tomorrow. Still ramping up a bit on iron and adrenal support, so should start off OK. All I know is that feeling worse than crap is no way to live and when people on the board take their health into their own hands and start feeling better, it gives us all hope! I know I will have many questions as this all unfolds. I discovered how to use sea salt today...got some heart racing/pounding, sort of an uptightness in the chest and above. Took 1/2 t. sea salt in water, slammed it down and in 5 min felt much better. Who knew?! Nanci B.To: RT3_T3 Sent: Sun, August 8, 2010 1:25:39 PMSubject: Re: General 'feeling better' question!

Hi Nanci, I'm definitely feeling better than I was pre-clearance, when I was couch bound. Had I tried this protocol 10 or 15 years ago or even 5 years ago I think it would have been a miracle cure (I'm 62). But since I logged decades of running hypo on Synthroid and its generics with pulse of 60 and BP of 90/60, labs that diabolically looked "normal" while really having RT3, there has been much more damage to repair.

There are long term consequences to the HPA axis to running hypoT. In my case an adrenal cortex hormone, aldosterone, took the hit. Florinef does not magically replace your own, so I am not yet feeling all better.

If you have not yet had your saliva cortisol tested 4x/day (canaryclub.org) I highly recommend you to do so. Besides low ferritin, low and high cortisol also contribute to RT3, and you definitely want to fix the problem.