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Val,

I had saliva testing & follow-up consultation with Sabre Sciences. They

suggested that I use the following transdermal creams to balance

cortisol,blood sugar, DHEA.

(age 58,female)

The daytime formula(morning, 6:00pm) includes the following ingredients:

Pregnenolone(19mgs.),DHEA(7 mgs.),L-Methionine(7mgs.),Wild Yam

(progesterone usp, 6mgs.), Vitamin E(4 mgs.),7-Keto DHEA(3 mgs.),

Benfothiamine(2mgs.),B12(methylcobalamin, 923 mgs.),B6P5P,

L-Tyrosine(577 Mcgs.)

(other ingredients: alapha lipoic acid, L-Ornithine, B12

(Cyanocobalamin),Maca Extract, Muira Puama Extract, Licorice

Root Extract, L-Gluatmine, Super Oxide Dismutase, L-Taurine,

Potassium Iodide.

The nighttime formula(at bedtime):

Phosphatidylserine(98 mgs.), Gaba(38 mgs.), Melatonin Conc(3 mgs.)

Other ingredients: Alpha Lipoic Acid, Avena Sativa Extract.

Could I please have your opinion on this?

Saliva Tests Results:

A. Cortisol:

8:00AM: 3.02 ng/ml(range: 3.5-6.3)

Noon: 1.64 ng/ml (range: 1.4-2.8)

4:00PM: 1.27 ( range: 0.8-2.4)

8:00PM: 0.7 (range: 0.6-1.6)

Midnight: 1.25 (range: 0.3-1.2)

4:00AM: 2.38 (range: 0.3-1.7)

B. DHEA-Sulfate:

8:00AM: 5.7 ng/ml (range: 2.8-12.7)

8:00PM: 4.9 ng/ml (range: 2.7-9.0)

Midnight: 4.5 (range: 1.8-8.1)

Val, thanks again!

Jo S.

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The daytime formula(morning, 6:00pm) includes the following ingredients:

Pregnenolone(19mgs.) NO

DHEA(7 mgs.) ABSOLUTELY NO

,L-Methionine(7mgs.) OK

,Wild Yam (progesterone usp, 6mgs.) OK but such a small dose not likely to

be helpful

, Vitamin E(4 mgs.) Again why bother it si so tiny?

,7-Keto DHEA(3 mgs.), NO

Benfothiamine(2mgs.) Optimal dose ogf this is 450mg a day in three divided

doses

,B12(methylcobalamin, 923 mgs.), GOOD

B6P5P, ???

L-Tyrosine(577 Mcgs.) Not with RT3 issues.

(other ingredients: alapha lipoic acid, ALa is fine if you take BIOTIN wiht

it

L-Ornithine, ???

B12 (Cyanocobalamin) Your body cannot use this form

,Maca Extract OK

, Muira Puama Extract, ???

Licorice Root Extract, OK

L-Gluatmine,OK

Super Oxide Dismutase,???

L-Taurine, OK

Potassium Iodide. OK

The nighttime formula(at bedtime):

Phosphatidylserine(98 mgs.) ABSOLUTELY NO

, Gaba(38 mgs.),OK

Melatonin Conc(3 mgs.)Perfect

Other ingredients: Alpha Lipoic Acid, Again good if you take Biotin

Avena Sativa Extract. This is pretty stimulating for bedtime.

Basically they are NOT treating your low cortiosl. You need at least Isocort if

not HC wiht your labs. If you get enough cortils inthe daytime it will lower

your night time levels wher they shoud be. Takign PS at night will leave you

liek a zombie inthe AM.

http://www.nthadrenalsweb.com

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

http://artisticgrooming.net/

> The daytime formula(morning, 6:00pm) includes the following ingredients:

>

> Pregnenolone(19mgs.),DHEA(7 mgs.),L-Methionine(7mgs.),Wild Yam

(progesterone usp, 6mgs.), Vitamin E(4 mgs.),7-Keto DHEA(3 mgs.),

> Benfothiamine(2mgs.),B12(methylcobalamin, 923 mgs.),B6P5P,

> L-Tyrosine(577 Mcgs.)

> (other ingredients: alapha lipoic acid, L-Ornithine, B12

> (Cyanocobalamin),Maca Extract, Muira Puama Extract, Licorice

> Root Extract, L-Gluatmine, Super Oxide Dismutase, L-Taurine,

> Potassium Iodide.

>

>

> The nighttime formula(at bedtime):

>

> Phosphatidylserine(98 mgs.), Gaba(38 mgs.), Melatonin Conc(3 mgs.)

> Other ingredients: Alpha Lipoic Acid, Avena Sativa Extract.

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Val, are you against DHEA even if labs show you are low?

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The daytime formula(morning, 6:00pm) includes the following ingredients:

Pregnenolone(19mgs.) NO

DHEA(7 mgs.) ABSOLUTELY NO

,L-Methionine(7mgs.) OK

,Wild Yam (progesterone usp, 6mgs.) OK but such a small dose not likely to

be helpful

, Vitamin E(4 mgs.) Again why bother it si so tiny?

,7-Keto DHEA(3 mgs.), NO

Benfothiamine(2mgs.) Optimal dose ogf this is 450mg a day in three divided

doses

,B12(methylcobalamin, 923 mgs.), GOOD

B6P5P, ???

L-Tyrosine(577 Mcgs.) Not with RT3 issues.

(other ingredients: alapha lipoic acid, ALa is fine if you take BIOTIN wiht

it

L-Ornithine, ???

B12 (Cyanocobalamin) Your body cannot use this form

,Maca Extract OK

, Muira Puama Extract, ???

Licorice Root Extract, OK

L-Gluatmine,OK

Super Oxide Dismutase,???

L-Taurine, OK

Potassium Iodide. OK

The nighttime formula(at bedtime):

Phosphatidylserine(98 mgs.) ABSOLUTELY NO

, Gaba(38 mgs.),OK

Melatonin Conc(3 mgs.)Perfect

Other ingredients: Alpha Lipoic Acid, Again good if you take Biotin

Avena Sativa Extract. This is pretty stimulating for bedtime.

Basically they are NOT treating your low cortiosl. You need at least Isocort if

not HC wiht your labs. If you get enough cortils inthe daytime it will lower

your night time levels wher they shoud be. Takign PS at night will leave you

liek a zombie inthe AM.

http://www.nthadrenalsweb.com

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

http://artisticgrooming.net/

The daytime formula(morning, 6:00pm) includes the following ingredients:

Pregnenolone(19mgs.),DHEA(7 mgs.),L-Methionine(7mgs.),Wild Yam

(progesterone usp, 6mgs.), Vitamin E(4 mgs.),7-Keto DHEA(3 mgs.),

Benfothiamine(2mgs.),B12(methylcobalamin, 923 mgs.),B6P5P,

L-Tyrosine(577 Mcgs.)

(other ingredients: alapha lipoic acid, L-Ornithine, B12

(Cyanocobalamin),Maca Extract, Muira Puama Extract, Licorice

Root Extract, L-Gluatmine, Super Oxide Dismutase, L-Taurine,

Potassium Iodide.

The nighttime formula(at bedtime):

Phosphatidylserine(98 mgs.), Gaba(38 mgs.), Melatonin Conc(3 mgs.)

Other ingredients: Alpha Lipoic Acid, Avena Sativa Extract.

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Val,

Should I take Cortef or isocort just when I wake up or in the morning and later in the day?

Can you suggest dosage for Cortef and/or Isocort?I tried 2 Standard Process Dessicated Adrenal Extract. It made me very dizzy, felt weird.

1 pill was okay the first day, from 2nd day on it made me feel depressed.

Thank you Val. Your opinion is very important to me.

Jo S.

To: RT3_T3 Sent: Fri, July 30, 2010 5:48:33 PMSubject: Re: Bump . Val, could I please have your opinion on this

The daytime formula(morning, 6:00pm) includes the following ingredients:Pregnenolone(19mgs.) NODHEA(7 mgs.) ABSOLUTELY NO,L-Methionine(7mgs.) OK,Wild Yam (progesterone usp, 6mgs.) OK but such a small dose not likely to be helpful, Vitamin E(4 mgs.) Again why bother it si so tiny?,7-Keto DHEA(3 mgs.), NOBenfothiamine(2mgs.) Optimal dose ogf this is 450mg a day in three divided doses,B12(methylcobalamin, 923 mgs.), GOODB6P5P, ???L-Tyrosine(577 Mcgs.) Not with RT3 issues.(other ingredients: alapha lipoic acid, ALa is fine if you take BIOTIN wiht itL-Ornithine, ???B12 (Cyanocobalamin) Your body cannot use this form,Maca Extract OK, Muira Puama Extract, ???Licorice Root Extract, OKL-Gluatmine,OKSuper Oxide Dismutase,???L-Taurine, OKPotassium Iodide. OKThe nighttime formula(at bedtime):Phosphatidylserine(98 mgs.) ABSOLUTELY NO, Gaba(38

mgs.),OKMelatonin Conc(3 mgs.)PerfectOther ingredients: Alpha Lipoic Acid, Again good if you take BiotinAvena Sativa Extract. This is pretty stimulating for bedtime.Basically they are NOT treating your low cortiosl. You need at least Isocort if not HC wiht your labs. If you get enough cortils inthe daytime it will lower your night time levels wher they shoud be. Takign PS at night will leave you liek a zombie inthe AM. http://www.nthadrenalsweb.comhttp://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/http://faqhelp.webs.com/http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/http://artisticgrooming.net/> The daytime formula(morning, 6:00pm) includes the following ingredients:>> Pregnenolone(19mgs.),DHEA(7 mgs.),L-Methionine(7mgs.),Wild Yam

(progesterone usp, 6mgs.), Vitamin E(4 mgs.),7-Keto DHEA(3 mgs.),> Benfothiamine(2mgs.),B12(methylcobalamin, 923 mgs.),B6P5P,> L-Tyrosine(577 Mcgs.)> (other ingredients: alapha lipoic acid, L-Ornithine, B12> (Cyanocobalamin),Maca Extract, Muira Puama Extract, Licorice> Root Extract, L-Gluatmine, Super Oxide Dismutase, L-Taurine,> Potassium Iodide.>>> The nighttime formula(at bedtime):>> Phosphatidylserine(98 mgs.), Gaba(38 mgs.), Melatonin Conc(3 mgs.)> Other ingredients: Alpha Lipoic Acid, Avena Sativa Extract.

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YES. Unitl your cortils is UP an dstable and temps are stable it can

LOWER cortils which wi way mroe important than DHEA.

http://www.nthadrenalsweb.com

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

http://artisticgrooming.net/

> Val, are you against DHEA even if labs show you are low?

>

> Sent from my iPhone

>

> On Jul 30, 2010, at 4:48 PM, Tartisticgroomer@...> wrote:

>

>

>

> The daytime formula(morning, 6:00pm) includes the following ingredients:

>

> Pregnenolone(19mgs.) NO

> DHEA(7 mgs.) ABSOLUTELY NO

> ,L-Methionine(7mgs.) OK

> ,Wild Yam (progesterone usp, 6mgs.) OK but such a small dose not likely

to be helpful

> , Vitamin E(4 mgs.) Again why bother it si so tiny?

> ,7-Keto DHEA(3 mgs.), NO

> Benfothiamine(2mgs.) Optimal dose ogf this is 450mg a day in three

divided doses

> ,B12(methylcobalamin, 923 mgs.), GOOD

> B6P5P, ???

> L-Tyrosine(577 Mcgs.) Not with RT3 issues.

> (other ingredients: alapha lipoic acid, ALa is fine if you take BIOTIN

wiht it

> L-Ornithine, ???

> B12 (Cyanocobalamin) Your body cannot use this form

> ,Maca Extract OK

> , Muira Puama Extract, ???

> Licorice Root Extract, OK

> L-Gluatmine,OK

> Super Oxide Dismutase,???

> L-Taurine, OK

> Potassium Iodide. OK

>

>

> The nighttime formula(at bedtime):

>

> Phosphatidylserine(98 mgs.) ABSOLUTELY NO

> , Gaba(38 mgs.),OK

> Melatonin Conc(3 mgs.)Perfect

>

> Other ingredients: Alpha Lipoic Acid, Again good if you take Biotin

> Avena Sativa Extract. This is pretty stimulating for bedtime.

>

> Basically they are NOT treating your low cortiosl. You need at least Isocort

if not HC wiht your labs. If you get enough cortils inthe daytime it will lower

your night time levels wher they shoud be. Takign PS at night will leave you

liek a zombie inthe AM.

>

>

> http://www.nthadrenalsweb.com

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://faqhelp.webs.com/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

> http://artisticgrooming.net/

>

>

>

>

> The daytime formula(morning, 6:00pm) includes the following ingredients:

>

> Pregnenolone(19mgs.),DHEA(7 mgs.),L-Methionine(7mgs.),Wild Yam

(progesterone usp, 6mgs.), Vitamin E(4 mgs.),7-Keto DHEA(3 mgs.),

> Benfothiamine(2mgs.),B12(methylcobalamin, 923 mgs.),B6P5P,

> L-Tyrosine(577 Mcgs.)

> (other ingredients: alapha lipoic acid, L-Ornithine, B12

> (Cyanocobalamin),Maca Extract, Muira Puama Extract, Licorice

> Root Extract, L-Gluatmine, Super Oxide Dismutase, L-Taurine,

> Potassium Iodide.

>

>

> The nighttime formula(at bedtime):

>

> Phosphatidylserine(98 mgs.), Gaba(38 mgs.), Melatonin Conc(3 mgs.)

> Other ingredients: Alpha Lipoic Acid, Avena Sativa Extract.

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our experiences.

Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor. Yahoo! Groups

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>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our experiences.

Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor. Yahoo! Groups

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>

>

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Isocort I would try first though i feel you may need HC. But try ti.

I woudl try 4-3-2-1 dosing

http://www.nthadrenalsweb.com http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

http://artisticgrooming.net/

Val,

Should I take Cortef or isocort just when I wake up or in

the morning and later in the day?

 

Can you suggest dosage for Cortef and/or Isocort?

I tried 2 Standard Process Dessicated Adrenal Extract.  It

made me very dizzy, felt weird.

1 pill was okay the first day, from 2nd day on it made me

feel depressed.

Thank you Val.  Your opinion is very important to me.

Jo S.

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July 30, 2010 5:48:33 PM

Subject:

Re: Bump . Val, could I please have your opinion

on this

 

The daytime formula(morning, 6:00pm) includes the

following ingredients:

Pregnenolone(19mgs.) NO

DHEA(7 mgs.) ABSOLUTELY NO

,L-Methionine(7mgs.) OK

,Wild Yam (progesterone usp, 6mgs.) OK but such a small

dose not likely to be helpful

, Vitamin E(4 mgs.) Again why bother it si so tiny?

,7-Keto DHEA(3 mgs.), NO

Benfothiamine(2mgs.) Optimal dose ogf this is 450mg a

day in three divided doses

,B12(methylcobalamin, 923 mgs.), GOOD

B6P5P, ???

L-Tyrosine(577 Mcgs.) Not with RT3 issues.

(other ingredients: alapha lipoic acid, ALa is fine if

you take BIOTIN wiht it

L-Ornithine, ???

B12 (Cyanocobalamin) Your body cannot use this form

,Maca Extract OK

, Muira Puama Extract, ???

Licorice Root Extract, OK

L-Gluatmine,OK

Super Oxide Dismutase,???

L-Taurine, OK

Potassium Iodide. OK

The nighttime formula(at bedtime):

Phosphatidylserine(98 mgs.) ABSOLUTELY NO

, Gaba(38 mgs.),OK

Melatonin Conc(3 mgs.)Perfect

Other ingredients: Alpha Lipoic Acid, Again good if you

take Biotin

Avena Sativa Extract. This is pretty stimulating for

bedtime.

Basically they are NOT treating your low cortiosl. You

need at least Isocort if not HC wiht your labs. If you

get enough cortils inthe daytime it will lower your

night time levels wher they shoud be. Takign PS at night

will leave you liek a zombie inthe AM.

http://www.nthadrenalsweb.com

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

http://artisticgrooming.net/

> The daytime formula(morning, 6:00pm) includes the

following ingredients:

>

> Pregnenolone(19mgs.),DHEA(7

mgs.),L-Methionine(7mgs.),Wild Yam (progesterone usp,

6mgs.), Vitamin E(4 mgs.),7-Keto DHEA(3 mgs.),

> Benfothiamine(2mgs.),B12(methylcobalamin, 923

mgs.),B6P5P,

> L-Tyrosine(577 Mcgs.)

> (other ingredients: alapha lipoic acid,

L-Ornithine, B12

> (Cyanocobalamin),Maca Extract, Muira Puama Extract,

Licorice

> Root Extract, L-Gluatmine, Super Oxide Dismutase,

L-Taurine,

> Potassium Iodide.

>

>

> The nighttime formula(at bedtime):

>

> Phosphatidylserine(98 mgs.), Gaba(38 mgs.),

Melatonin Conc(3 mgs.)

> Other ingredients: Alpha Lipoic Acid, Avena Sativa

Extract.

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Val,I am worried about the echinachea in Isocort because I have Hashi's.

I do have Cortef. I talked my endo into giving them to me- I have access to 5mgs.(-30pills-per month.).

Would taking ( 0ne) 5mg. Cortef pill in the morning be enough?.Thanks.

Jo S.

To: RT3_T3 Sent: Fri, July 30, 2010 6:35:17 PMSubject: Re: Bump . Val, could I please have your opinion on this

Isocort I would try first though i feel you may need HC. But try ti. I woudl try 4-3-2-1 dosing

http://www.nthadrenalsweb.com http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ NaturalThyroidHo rmonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp. webs.com/

http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/HypoPets/

http://artisticgrooming.net/

Val,

Should I take Cortef or isocort just when I wake up or in the morning and later in the day?

Can you suggest dosage for Cortef and/or Isocort?I tried 2 Standard Process Dessicated Adrenal Extract. It made me very dizzy, felt weird.

1 pill was okay the first day, from 2nd day on it made me feel depressed.

Thank you Val. Your opinion is very important to me.

Jo S.

From: T <artisticgroomer@ jfwebs.com>To: RT3_T3 (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) comSent: Fri, July 30, 2010 5:48:33 PMSubject: Re: Bump . Val, could I please have your opinion on this

The daytime formula(morning, 6:00pm) includes the following ingredients:Pregnenolone( 19mgs.) NODHEA(7 mgs.) ABSOLUTELY NO,L-Methionine( 7mgs.) OK,Wild Yam (progesterone usp, 6mgs.) OK but such a small dose not likely to be helpful, Vitamin E(4 mgs.) Again why bother it si so tiny?,7-Keto DHEA(3 mgs.), NOBenfothiamine( 2mgs.) Optimal dose ogf this is 450mg a day in three divided doses,B12(methylcobalami n, 923 mgs.), GOODB6P5P, ???L-Tyrosine(577 Mcgs.) Not with RT3 issues.(other ingredients: alapha lipoic acid, ALa is fine if you take BIOTIN wiht itL-Ornithine, ???B12 (Cyanocobalamin) Your body cannot use this form,Maca Extract OK, Muira Puama Extract, ???Licorice Root Extract, OKL-Gluatmine, OKSuper Oxide Dismutase,?? ?L-Taurine, OKPotassium Iodide. OKThe nighttime formula(at bedtime):Phosphatidylserine( 98 mgs.) ABSOLUTELY NO, Gaba(38

mgs.),OKMelatonin Conc(3 mgs.)PerfectOther ingredients: Alpha Lipoic Acid, Again good if you take BiotinAvena Sativa Extract. This is pretty stimulating for bedtime.Basically they are NOT treating your low cortiosl. You need at least Isocort if not HC wiht your labs. If you get enough cortils inthe daytime it will lower your night time levels wher they shoud be. Takign PS at night will leave you liek a zombie inthe AM. http://www.nthadren alsweb.comhttp://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ NaturalThyroidHo rmonesADRENALS/http://faqhelp. webs.com/http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ RT3_T3/http://www.thyroid- rt3.com/http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/HypoPets/http://artisticgroo ming.net/> The daytime formula(morning, 6:00pm) includes the following ingredients:>> Pregnenolone( 19mgs.),DHEA( 7 mgs.),L-Methionine( 7mgs.),Wild Yam (progesterone usp, 6mgs.), Vitamin E(4 mgs.),7-Keto DHEA(3 mgs.),> Benfothiamine( 2mgs.),B12( methylcobalamin, 923 mgs.),B6P5P,> L-Tyrosine(577 Mcgs.)> (other

ingredients: alapha lipoic acid, L-Ornithine, B12> (Cyanocobalamin) ,Maca Extract, Muira Puama Extract, Licorice> Root Extract, L-Gluatmine, Super Oxide Dismutase, L-Taurine,> Potassium Iodide.>>> The nighttime formula(at bedtime):>> Phosphatidylserine( 98 mgs.), Gaba(38 mgs.), Melatonin Conc(3 mgs.)> Other ingredients: Alpha Lipoic Acid, Avena Sativa Extract.

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Val,I am worried about the echinachea in Isocort because I have Hashi's.

I do have Cortef. I talked my endo into giving them to me- I have access to 5mgs.(-30pills-per month.).

Would taking ( 0ne) 5mg. Cortef pill in the morning be enough?.Thanks.

Jo S.

To: RT3_T3 Sent: Fri, July 30, 2010 6:35:17 PMSubject: Re: Bump . Val, could I please have your opinion on this

Isocort I would try first though i feel you may need HC. But try ti. I woudl try 4-3-2-1 dosing

http://www.nthadrenalsweb.com http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ NaturalThyroidHo rmonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp. webs.com/

http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/HypoPets/

http://artisticgrooming.net/

Val,

Should I take Cortef or isocort just when I wake up or in the morning and later in the day?

Can you suggest dosage for Cortef and/or Isocort?I tried 2 Standard Process Dessicated Adrenal Extract. It made me very dizzy, felt weird.

1 pill was okay the first day, from 2nd day on it made me feel depressed.

Thank you Val. Your opinion is very important to me.

Jo S.

From: T <artisticgroomer@ jfwebs.com>To: RT3_T3 (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) comSent: Fri, July 30, 2010 5:48:33 PMSubject: Re: Bump . Val, could I please have your opinion on this

The daytime formula(morning, 6:00pm) includes the following ingredients:Pregnenolone( 19mgs.) NODHEA(7 mgs.) ABSOLUTELY NO,L-Methionine( 7mgs.) OK,Wild Yam (progesterone usp, 6mgs.) OK but such a small dose not likely to be helpful, Vitamin E(4 mgs.) Again why bother it si so tiny?,7-Keto DHEA(3 mgs.), NOBenfothiamine( 2mgs.) Optimal dose ogf this is 450mg a day in three divided doses,B12(methylcobalami n, 923 mgs.), GOODB6P5P, ???L-Tyrosine(577 Mcgs.) Not with RT3 issues.(other ingredients: alapha lipoic acid, ALa is fine if you take BIOTIN wiht itL-Ornithine, ???B12 (Cyanocobalamin) Your body cannot use this form,Maca Extract OK, Muira Puama Extract, ???Licorice Root Extract, OKL-Gluatmine, OKSuper Oxide Dismutase,?? ?L-Taurine, OKPotassium Iodide. OKThe nighttime formula(at bedtime):Phosphatidylserine( 98 mgs.) ABSOLUTELY NO, Gaba(38

mgs.),OKMelatonin Conc(3 mgs.)PerfectOther ingredients: Alpha Lipoic Acid, Again good if you take BiotinAvena Sativa Extract. This is pretty stimulating for bedtime.Basically they are NOT treating your low cortiosl. You need at least Isocort if not HC wiht your labs. If you get enough cortils inthe daytime it will lower your night time levels wher they shoud be. Takign PS at night will leave you liek a zombie inthe AM. http://www.nthadren alsweb.comhttp://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ NaturalThyroidHo rmonesADRENALS/http://faqhelp. webs.com/http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ RT3_T3/http://www.thyroid- rt3.com/http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/HypoPets/http://artisticgroo ming.net/> The daytime formula(morning, 6:00pm) includes the following ingredients:>> Pregnenolone( 19mgs.),DHEA( 7 mgs.),L-Methionine( 7mgs.),Wild Yam (progesterone usp, 6mgs.), Vitamin E(4 mgs.),7-Keto DHEA(3 mgs.),> Benfothiamine( 2mgs.),B12( methylcobalamin, 923 mgs.),B6P5P,> L-Tyrosine(577 Mcgs.)> (other

ingredients: alapha lipoic acid, L-Ornithine, B12> (Cyanocobalamin) ,Maca Extract, Muira Puama Extract, Licorice> Root Extract, L-Gluatmine, Super Oxide Dismutase, L-Taurine,> Potassium Iodide.>>> The nighttime formula(at bedtime):>> Phosphatidylserine( 98 mgs.), Gaba(38 mgs.), Melatonin Conc(3 mgs.)> Other ingredients: Alpha Lipoic Acid, Avena Sativa Extract.

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Val,I am worried about the echinachea in Isocort because I have Hashi's.

I do have Cortef. I talked my endo into giving them to me- I have access to 5mgs.(-30pills-per month.).

Would taking ( 0ne) 5mg. Cortef pill in the morning be enough?.Thanks.

Jo S.

To: RT3_T3 Sent: Fri, July 30, 2010 6:35:17 PMSubject: Re: Bump . Val, could I please have your opinion on this

Isocort I would try first though i feel you may need HC. But try ti. I woudl try 4-3-2-1 dosing

http://www.nthadrenalsweb.com http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ NaturalThyroidHo rmonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp. webs.com/

http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/HypoPets/

http://artisticgrooming.net/

Val,

Should I take Cortef or isocort just when I wake up or in the morning and later in the day?

Can you suggest dosage for Cortef and/or Isocort?I tried 2 Standard Process Dessicated Adrenal Extract. It made me very dizzy, felt weird.

1 pill was okay the first day, from 2nd day on it made me feel depressed.

Thank you Val. Your opinion is very important to me.

Jo S.

From: T <artisticgroomer@ jfwebs.com>To: RT3_T3 (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) comSent: Fri, July 30, 2010 5:48:33 PMSubject: Re: Bump . Val, could I please have your opinion on this

The daytime formula(morning, 6:00pm) includes the following ingredients:Pregnenolone( 19mgs.) NODHEA(7 mgs.) ABSOLUTELY NO,L-Methionine( 7mgs.) OK,Wild Yam (progesterone usp, 6mgs.) OK but such a small dose not likely to be helpful, Vitamin E(4 mgs.) Again why bother it si so tiny?,7-Keto DHEA(3 mgs.), NOBenfothiamine( 2mgs.) Optimal dose ogf this is 450mg a day in three divided doses,B12(methylcobalami n, 923 mgs.), GOODB6P5P, ???L-Tyrosine(577 Mcgs.) Not with RT3 issues.(other ingredients: alapha lipoic acid, ALa is fine if you take BIOTIN wiht itL-Ornithine, ???B12 (Cyanocobalamin) Your body cannot use this form,Maca Extract OK, Muira Puama Extract, ???Licorice Root Extract, OKL-Gluatmine, OKSuper Oxide Dismutase,?? ?L-Taurine, OKPotassium Iodide. OKThe nighttime formula(at bedtime):Phosphatidylserine( 98 mgs.) ABSOLUTELY NO, Gaba(38

mgs.),OKMelatonin Conc(3 mgs.)PerfectOther ingredients: Alpha Lipoic Acid, Again good if you take BiotinAvena Sativa Extract. This is pretty stimulating for bedtime.Basically they are NOT treating your low cortiosl. You need at least Isocort if not HC wiht your labs. If you get enough cortils inthe daytime it will lower your night time levels wher they shoud be. Takign PS at night will leave you liek a zombie inthe AM. http://www.nthadren alsweb.comhttp://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ NaturalThyroidHo rmonesADRENALS/http://faqhelp. webs.com/http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ RT3_T3/http://www.thyroid- rt3.com/http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/HypoPets/http://artisticgroo ming.net/> The daytime formula(morning, 6:00pm) includes the following ingredients:>> Pregnenolone( 19mgs.),DHEA( 7 mgs.),L-Methionine( 7mgs.),Wild Yam (progesterone usp, 6mgs.), Vitamin E(4 mgs.),7-Keto DHEA(3 mgs.),> Benfothiamine( 2mgs.),B12( methylcobalamin, 923 mgs.),B6P5P,> L-Tyrosine(577 Mcgs.)> (other

ingredients: alapha lipoic acid, L-Ornithine, B12> (Cyanocobalamin) ,Maca Extract, Muira Puama Extract, Licorice> Root Extract, L-Gluatmine, Super Oxide Dismutase, L-Taurine,> Potassium Iodide.>>> The nighttime formula(at bedtime):>> Phosphatidylserine( 98 mgs.), Gaba(38 mgs.), Melatonin Conc(3 mgs.)> Other ingredients: Alpha Lipoic Acid, Avena Sativa Extract.

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HC lasts at best 4 hours. 5MG woudl lower your ACTH nad in 3-4 hours

oyu would be shakign and nauseous,. With HC it si all or nothing and

I owuld start wiht 25mg if starting HC. in a 10-7.5-5-2.5 dosing

pattern.

http://www.nthadrenalsweb.com http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

http://artisticgrooming.net/

Val,

I am worried about the echinachea in Isocort because I have

Hashi's.

I do have Cortef.  I talked my endo into giving them to me- I

have access to 5mgs.(-30pills-per month.).

Would taking ( 0ne) 5mg. Cortef pill in the morning be

enough?

..Thanks.

Jo S.

From:

T

To:

RT3_T3

Sent: Fri,

July 30, 2010 6:35:17 PM

Subject:

Re: Bump . Val, could I please have your opinion

on this

 

Isocort I would try first though i feel you may need

HC. But try ti. I woudl try 4-3-2-1 dosing

http://www.nthadrenalsweb.com http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ NaturalThyroidHo rmonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp. webs.com/

http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/HypoPets/

http://artisticgrooming.net/

Val,

Should I take Cortef or isocort just when I wake

up or in the morning and later in the day?

 

Can you suggest dosage for Cortef and/or Isocort?

I tried 2 Standard Process Dessicated Adrenal

Extract.  It made me very dizzy, felt weird.

1 pill was okay the first day, from 2nd day on it

made me feel depressed.

Thank you Val.  Your opinion is very important to

me.

Jo S.

From:

T <artisticgroomer@

jfwebs.com>

To:

RT3_T3 (AT) yahoogroups (DOT)

com

Sent:

Fri, July 30, 2010 5:48:33 PM

Subject:

Re: Bump . Val, could I please have

your opinion on this

 

The daytime formula(morning, 6:00pm) includes

the following ingredients:

Pregnenolone( 19mgs.) NO

DHEA(7 mgs.) ABSOLUTELY NO

,L-Methionine( 7mgs.) OK

,Wild Yam (progesterone usp, 6mgs.) OK but

such a small dose not likely to be helpful

, Vitamin E(4 mgs.) Again why bother it si so

tiny?

,7-Keto DHEA(3 mgs.), NO

Benfothiamine( 2mgs.) Optimal dose ogf this is

450mg a day in three divided doses

,B12(methylcobalami n, 923 mgs.), GOOD

B6P5P, ???

L-Tyrosine(577 Mcgs.) Not with RT3 issues.

(other ingredients: alapha lipoic acid, ALa is

fine if you take BIOTIN wiht it

L-Ornithine, ???

B12 (Cyanocobalamin) Your body cannot use this

form

,Maca Extract OK

, Muira Puama Extract, ???

Licorice Root Extract, OK

L-Gluatmine, OK

Super Oxide Dismutase,?? ?

L-Taurine, OK

Potassium Iodide. OK

The nighttime formula(at bedtime):

Phosphatidylserine( 98 mgs.) ABSOLUTELY NO

, Gaba(38 mgs.),OK

Melatonin Conc(3 mgs.)Perfect

Other ingredients: Alpha Lipoic Acid, Again

good if you take Biotin

Avena Sativa Extract. This is pretty

stimulating for bedtime.

Basically they are NOT treating your low

cortiosl. You need at least Isocort if not HC

wiht your labs. If you get enough cortils

inthe daytime it will lower your night time

levels wher they shoud be. Takign PS at night

will leave you liek a zombie inthe AM.

http://www.nthadren

alsweb.com

http://health.

groups.yahoo. com/group/ NaturalThyroidHo

rmonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.

webs.com/

http://health.

groups.yahoo. com/group/ RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-

rt3.com/

http://groups.

yahoo.com/ group/HypoPets/

http://artisticgroo

ming.net/

> The daytime formula(morning, 6:00pm)

includes the following ingredients:

>

> Pregnenolone( 19mgs.),DHEA( 7

mgs.),L-Methionine( 7mgs.),Wild Yam

(progesterone usp, 6mgs.), Vitamin E(4

mgs.),7-Keto DHEA(3 mgs.),

> Benfothiamine( 2mgs.),B12(

methylcobalamin, 923 mgs.),B6P5P,

> L-Tyrosine(577 Mcgs.)

> (other ingredients: alapha lipoic acid,

L-Ornithine, B12

> (Cyanocobalamin) ,Maca Extract, Muira

Puama Extract, Licorice

> Root Extract, L-Gluatmine, Super Oxide

Dismutase, L-Taurine,

> Potassium Iodide.

>

>

> The nighttime formula(at bedtime):

>

> Phosphatidylserine( 98 mgs.), Gaba(38

mgs.), Melatonin Conc(3 mgs.)

> Other ingredients: Alpha Lipoic Acid,

Avena Sativa Extract.

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HC lasts at best 4 hours. 5MG woudl lower your ACTH nad in 3-4 hours

oyu would be shakign and nauseous,. With HC it si all or nothing and

I owuld start wiht 25mg if starting HC. in a 10-7.5-5-2.5 dosing

pattern.

http://www.nthadrenalsweb.com http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

http://artisticgrooming.net/

Val,

I am worried about the echinachea in Isocort because I have

Hashi's.

I do have Cortef.  I talked my endo into giving them to me- I

have access to 5mgs.(-30pills-per month.).

Would taking ( 0ne) 5mg. Cortef pill in the morning be

enough?

..Thanks.

Jo S.

From:

T

To:

RT3_T3

Sent: Fri,

July 30, 2010 6:35:17 PM

Subject:

Re: Bump . Val, could I please have your opinion

on this

 

Isocort I would try first though i feel you may need

HC. But try ti. I woudl try 4-3-2-1 dosing

http://www.nthadrenalsweb.com http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ NaturalThyroidHo rmonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp. webs.com/

http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/HypoPets/

http://artisticgrooming.net/

Val,

Should I take Cortef or isocort just when I wake

up or in the morning and later in the day?

 

Can you suggest dosage for Cortef and/or Isocort?

I tried 2 Standard Process Dessicated Adrenal

Extract.  It made me very dizzy, felt weird.

1 pill was okay the first day, from 2nd day on it

made me feel depressed.

Thank you Val.  Your opinion is very important to

me.

Jo S.

From:

T <artisticgroomer@

jfwebs.com>

To:

RT3_T3 (AT) yahoogroups (DOT)

com

Sent:

Fri, July 30, 2010 5:48:33 PM

Subject:

Re: Bump . Val, could I please have

your opinion on this

 

The daytime formula(morning, 6:00pm) includes

the following ingredients:

Pregnenolone( 19mgs.) NO

DHEA(7 mgs.) ABSOLUTELY NO

,L-Methionine( 7mgs.) OK

,Wild Yam (progesterone usp, 6mgs.) OK but

such a small dose not likely to be helpful

, Vitamin E(4 mgs.) Again why bother it si so

tiny?

,7-Keto DHEA(3 mgs.), NO

Benfothiamine( 2mgs.) Optimal dose ogf this is

450mg a day in three divided doses

,B12(methylcobalami n, 923 mgs.), GOOD

B6P5P, ???

L-Tyrosine(577 Mcgs.) Not with RT3 issues.

(other ingredients: alapha lipoic acid, ALa is

fine if you take BIOTIN wiht it

L-Ornithine, ???

B12 (Cyanocobalamin) Your body cannot use this

form

,Maca Extract OK

, Muira Puama Extract, ???

Licorice Root Extract, OK

L-Gluatmine, OK

Super Oxide Dismutase,?? ?

L-Taurine, OK

Potassium Iodide. OK

The nighttime formula(at bedtime):

Phosphatidylserine( 98 mgs.) ABSOLUTELY NO

, Gaba(38 mgs.),OK

Melatonin Conc(3 mgs.)Perfect

Other ingredients: Alpha Lipoic Acid, Again

good if you take Biotin

Avena Sativa Extract. This is pretty

stimulating for bedtime.

Basically they are NOT treating your low

cortiosl. You need at least Isocort if not HC

wiht your labs. If you get enough cortils

inthe daytime it will lower your night time

levels wher they shoud be. Takign PS at night

will leave you liek a zombie inthe AM.

http://www.nthadren

alsweb.com

http://health.

groups.yahoo. com/group/ NaturalThyroidHo

rmonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.

webs.com/

http://health.

groups.yahoo. com/group/ RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-

rt3.com/

http://groups.

yahoo.com/ group/HypoPets/

http://artisticgroo

ming.net/

> The daytime formula(morning, 6:00pm)

includes the following ingredients:

>

> Pregnenolone( 19mgs.),DHEA( 7

mgs.),L-Methionine( 7mgs.),Wild Yam

(progesterone usp, 6mgs.), Vitamin E(4

mgs.),7-Keto DHEA(3 mgs.),

> Benfothiamine( 2mgs.),B12(

methylcobalamin, 923 mgs.),B6P5P,

> L-Tyrosine(577 Mcgs.)

> (other ingredients: alapha lipoic acid,

L-Ornithine, B12

> (Cyanocobalamin) ,Maca Extract, Muira

Puama Extract, Licorice

> Root Extract, L-Gluatmine, Super Oxide

Dismutase, L-Taurine,

> Potassium Iodide.

>

>

> The nighttime formula(at bedtime):

>

> Phosphatidylserine( 98 mgs.), Gaba(38

mgs.), Melatonin Conc(3 mgs.)

> Other ingredients: Alpha Lipoic Acid,

Avena Sativa Extract.

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HC lasts at best 4 hours. 5MG woudl lower your ACTH nad in 3-4 hours

oyu would be shakign and nauseous,. With HC it si all or nothing and

I owuld start wiht 25mg if starting HC. in a 10-7.5-5-2.5 dosing

pattern.

http://www.nthadrenalsweb.com http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

http://artisticgrooming.net/

Val,

I am worried about the echinachea in Isocort because I have

Hashi's.

I do have Cortef.  I talked my endo into giving them to me- I

have access to 5mgs.(-30pills-per month.).

Would taking ( 0ne) 5mg. Cortef pill in the morning be

enough?

..Thanks.

Jo S.

From:

T

To:

RT3_T3

Sent: Fri,

July 30, 2010 6:35:17 PM

Subject:

Re: Bump . Val, could I please have your opinion

on this

 

Isocort I would try first though i feel you may need

HC. But try ti. I woudl try 4-3-2-1 dosing

http://www.nthadrenalsweb.com http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ NaturalThyroidHo rmonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp. webs.com/

http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/HypoPets/

http://artisticgrooming.net/

Val,

Should I take Cortef or isocort just when I wake

up or in the morning and later in the day?

 

Can you suggest dosage for Cortef and/or Isocort?

I tried 2 Standard Process Dessicated Adrenal

Extract.  It made me very dizzy, felt weird.

1 pill was okay the first day, from 2nd day on it

made me feel depressed.

Thank you Val.  Your opinion is very important to

me.

Jo S.

From:

T <artisticgroomer@

jfwebs.com>

To:

RT3_T3 (AT) yahoogroups (DOT)

com

Sent:

Fri, July 30, 2010 5:48:33 PM

Subject:

Re: Bump . Val, could I please have

your opinion on this

 

The daytime formula(morning, 6:00pm) includes

the following ingredients:

Pregnenolone( 19mgs.) NO

DHEA(7 mgs.) ABSOLUTELY NO

,L-Methionine( 7mgs.) OK

,Wild Yam (progesterone usp, 6mgs.) OK but

such a small dose not likely to be helpful

, Vitamin E(4 mgs.) Again why bother it si so

tiny?

,7-Keto DHEA(3 mgs.), NO

Benfothiamine( 2mgs.) Optimal dose ogf this is

450mg a day in three divided doses

,B12(methylcobalami n, 923 mgs.), GOOD

B6P5P, ???

L-Tyrosine(577 Mcgs.) Not with RT3 issues.

(other ingredients: alapha lipoic acid, ALa is

fine if you take BIOTIN wiht it

L-Ornithine, ???

B12 (Cyanocobalamin) Your body cannot use this

form

,Maca Extract OK

, Muira Puama Extract, ???

Licorice Root Extract, OK

L-Gluatmine, OK

Super Oxide Dismutase,?? ?

L-Taurine, OK

Potassium Iodide. OK

The nighttime formula(at bedtime):

Phosphatidylserine( 98 mgs.) ABSOLUTELY NO

, Gaba(38 mgs.),OK

Melatonin Conc(3 mgs.)Perfect

Other ingredients: Alpha Lipoic Acid, Again

good if you take Biotin

Avena Sativa Extract. This is pretty

stimulating for bedtime.

Basically they are NOT treating your low

cortiosl. You need at least Isocort if not HC

wiht your labs. If you get enough cortils

inthe daytime it will lower your night time

levels wher they shoud be. Takign PS at night

will leave you liek a zombie inthe AM.

http://www.nthadren

alsweb.com

http://health.

groups.yahoo. com/group/ NaturalThyroidHo

rmonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.

webs.com/

http://health.

groups.yahoo. com/group/ RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-

rt3.com/

http://groups.

yahoo.com/ group/HypoPets/

http://artisticgroo

ming.net/

> The daytime formula(morning, 6:00pm)

includes the following ingredients:

>

> Pregnenolone( 19mgs.),DHEA( 7

mgs.),L-Methionine( 7mgs.),Wild Yam

(progesterone usp, 6mgs.), Vitamin E(4

mgs.),7-Keto DHEA(3 mgs.),

> Benfothiamine( 2mgs.),B12(

methylcobalamin, 923 mgs.),B6P5P,

> L-Tyrosine(577 Mcgs.)

> (other ingredients: alapha lipoic acid,

L-Ornithine, B12

> (Cyanocobalamin) ,Maca Extract, Muira

Puama Extract, Licorice

> Root Extract, L-Gluatmine, Super Oxide

Dismutase, L-Taurine,

> Potassium Iodide.

>

>

> The nighttime formula(at bedtime):

>

> Phosphatidylserine( 98 mgs.), Gaba(38

mgs.), Melatonin Conc(3 mgs.)

> Other ingredients: Alpha Lipoic Acid,

Avena Sativa Extract.

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