Re: New Labs / fasting for electrolyte test

[Guest guest]

Yes, it is necessary to be fasting for electrolyte tests (sorry). Here's the

link to Moderator 's post on this subject:

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/message/49636

> > > >>> Sodium 137 (135-145)

> > > >>> Potassium 3.7 (3.5-5.2)

> > > >>> Chloride 103 (97-108)

> > > >>> Carbon Dioxide 23 (20-32)

> > > >>>

> > > >>> TIBC 280 (250-450)

> > > >>> UIBC 185 (150-375)

> > > >>> Iron Serum 95 (35-155)

> > > >>> Iron Sat 34 (15-55)

> > > >>>

> > > >>> Currently taking 56.25 Cynomel, 30 HC, Blue Bonnet Iron, Mag oil,

Celtic Sea Salt

> > > >>>

> > > >>> How much iron should I continue to take? Any other thoughts?

> > > >>>

> > > >>> TIA, Aimee

> > > >>>

> > > >>>

> > > >>>

> > > >>> ------------------------------------

> > > >>>

> > > >>> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our

experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.

[Guest guest]

Yes, it is necessary to be fasting for electrolyte tests (sorry). Here's the

link to Moderator 's post on this subject:

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/message/49636

> > > >>> Sodium 137 (135-145)

> > > >>> Potassium 3.7 (3.5-5.2)

> > > >>> Chloride 103 (97-108)

> > > >>> Carbon Dioxide 23 (20-32)

> > > >>>

> > > >>> TIBC 280 (250-450)

> > > >>> UIBC 185 (150-375)

> > > >>> Iron Serum 95 (35-155)

> > > >>> Iron Sat 34 (15-55)

> > > >>>

> > > >>> Currently taking 56.25 Cynomel, 30 HC, Blue Bonnet Iron, Mag oil,

Celtic Sea Salt

> > > >>>

> > > >>> How much iron should I continue to take? Any other thoughts?

> > > >>>

> > > >>> TIA, Aimee

> > > >>>

> > > >>>

> > > >>>

> > > >>> ------------------------------------

> > > >>>

> > > >>> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our

experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.

[Guest guest]

Yes, it is necessary to be fasting for electrolyte tests (sorry). Here's the

link to Moderator 's post on this subject:

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/message/49636

> > > >>> Sodium 137 (135-145)

> > > >>> Potassium 3.7 (3.5-5.2)

> > > >>> Chloride 103 (97-108)

> > > >>> Carbon Dioxide 23 (20-32)

> > > >>>

> > > >>> TIBC 280 (250-450)

> > > >>> UIBC 185 (150-375)

> > > >>> Iron Serum 95 (35-155)

> > > >>> Iron Sat 34 (15-55)

> > > >>>

> > > >>> Currently taking 56.25 Cynomel, 30 HC, Blue Bonnet Iron, Mag oil,

Celtic Sea Salt

> > > >>>

> > > >>> How much iron should I continue to take? Any other thoughts?

> > > >>>

> > > >>> TIA, Aimee

> > > >>>

> > > >>>

> > > >>>

> > > >>> ------------------------------------

> > > >>>

> > > >>> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our

experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.

[Guest guest]

That's greeeeaaat. How will it affect them? Will it affect the rest of the

metabolic panel, the cbc with differential, minerals (rbc magnesium, iron, etc),

vitamins (rbc folate, b12, etc), thyroid (had not taken t3, just the cortef and

florinef). My doc had checked non fasting so here I thought I was doing well

only having a couple of nuts to take adrenal meds Do I need to do everything

over?

> > > > >>> Sodium 137 (135-145)

> > > > >>> Potassium 3.7 (3.5-5.2)

> > > > >>> Chloride 103 (97-108)

> > > > >>> Carbon Dioxide 23 (20-32)

> > > > >>>

> > > > >>> TIBC 280 (250-450)

> > > > >>> UIBC 185 (150-375)

> > > > >>> Iron Serum 95 (35-155)

> > > > >>> Iron Sat 34 (15-55)

> > > > >>>

> > > > >>> Currently taking 56.25 Cynomel, 30 HC, Blue Bonnet Iron, Mag oil,

Celtic Sea Salt

> > > > >>>

> > > > >>> How much iron should I continue to take? Any other thoughts?

> > > > >>>

> > > > >>> TIA, Aimee

> > > > >>>

> > > > >>>

> > > > >>>

> > > > >>> ------------------------------------

> > > > >>>

> > > > >>> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our

experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.

[Guest guest]

I'm sorry, I don't know. Not only will the tests be affected, but by how much?

Technically a handful of pecans is NON-fasting, but it has to be on a different

scale than having had a stack of pancakes.

Moderator would know more about this than I do, I rarely suggest this

but perhaps you could try bumping the question to her? If you have to have

tests re-done, perhaps only SOME of them need be re-done?

I understood that we were not supposed to take HC before thyroid tests, or

florinef before electrolyte tests. I go to the lab 1st thing in A.M. completely

empty (and, OK, a little cranky) and bring a snack (like the pecans) and my meds

to have right after the blood is drawn.

> > > > > >>> Sodium 137 (135-145)

> > > > > >>> Potassium 3.7 (3.5-5.2)

> > > > > >>> Chloride 103 (97-108)

> > > > > >>> Carbon Dioxide 23 (20-32)

> > > > > >>>

> > > > > >>> TIBC 280 (250-450)

> > > > > >>> UIBC 185 (150-375)

> > > > > >>> Iron Serum 95 (35-155)

> > > > > >>> Iron Sat 34 (15-55)

> > > > > >>>

> > > > > >>> Currently taking 56.25 Cynomel, 30 HC, Blue Bonnet Iron, Mag

oil, Celtic Sea Salt

> > > > > >>>

> > > > > >>> How much iron should I continue to take? Any other thoughts?

> > > > > >>>

> > > > > >>> TIA, Aimee

> > > > > >>>

> > > > > >>>

> > > > > >>>

> > > > > >>> ------------------------------------

> > > > > >>>

> > > > > >>> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our

experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.

[Guest guest]

I could probably go without the florinef to the lab, but I don't know if I could

make it without cortef. I didn't know that would affect thyroid results! It

was three non salted pecan halves - waaaah. Oh well, it's done. I guess I'll

test again sooner then I thought.

Thanks,

> > > > > > >>> Sodium 137 (135-145)

> > > > > > >>> Potassium 3.7 (3.5-5.2)

> > > > > > >>> Chloride 103 (97-108)

> > > > > > >>> Carbon Dioxide 23 (20-32)

> > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > >>> TIBC 280 (250-450)

> > > > > > >>> UIBC 185 (150-375)

> > > > > > >>> Iron Serum 95 (35-155)

> > > > > > >>> Iron Sat 34 (15-55)

> > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > >>> Currently taking 56.25 Cynomel, 30 HC, Blue Bonnet Iron, Mag

oil, Celtic Sea Salt

> > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > >>> How much iron should I continue to take? Any other thoughts?

> > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > >>> TIA, Aimee

> > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > >>> ------------------------------------

> > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > >>> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our

experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.

[Guest guest]

Fasting AND time of day affects MANY tests...

-Lipids (Cholesterol)

-Blood Sugars & Insulin

-Sex Hormones

-Cortisol & ACTH

-Thyroid

-Electrolytes

-most Vits & Minerals (including Iron)

You should also test BEFORE Meds & Supps.

Florinef should definitely NOT take before testing electrolytes.

HC will affect electrolytes but to a far LESS degree.

As far as Adrenal meds what I do is take Florinef, salted water, Pred/HC and a

nut/fruit bar with me to Lab.

AS SOON AS BLOOD IS DRAWN and BEFORE DRIVING HOME I take my meds with Salted

water & eat the nut/fruit bar.

HOWEVER if you cannot tolerate waiting on HC to do an early am test then don't

risk making yourself ill by NOT taking it. But wait on everything else.

Note I do make sure to drink some water before the blood draw as otherwise is

sometimes difficult to draw blood due to dehydration.

I always test same time, fasting 10-12 hours, before meds/supps, same time since

last dose of meds (~12 hours for most such as Thyroid, Sex Hormone HRT), and

same lab.

Always follow protocols for ceasing meds, supps, etc for specific times before

testing.

Testing with CONSISTENT protocols makes comparison of Labs over time much more

valid & meaningful.

Lethal Lee

> > > > > > > >>> Sodium 137 (135-145)

> > > > > > > >>> Potassium 3.7 (3.5-5.2)

> > > > > > > >>> Chloride 103 (97-108)

> > > > > > > >>> Carbon Dioxide 23 (20-32)

> > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > >>> TIBC 280 (250-450)

> > > > > > > >>> UIBC 185 (150-375)

> > > > > > > >>> Iron Serum 95 (35-155)

> > > > > > > >>> Iron Sat 34 (15-55)

> > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > >>> Currently taking 56.25 Cynomel, 30 HC, Blue Bonnet Iron, Mag

oil, Celtic Sea Salt

> > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > >>> How much iron should I continue to take? Any other thoughts?

> > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > >>> TIA, Aimee

> > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > >>> ------------------------------------

> > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > >>> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing

our experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent

doctor.

[Guest guest]

Is there a file somewhere that lists the guidelines for getting labs done?

Something that lists when you get a specific lab done you need to be fasting, or

you need to skip HC etc.....

> > > > > > > > >>> Sodium 137 (135-145)

> > > > > > > > >>> Potassium 3.7 (3.5-5.2)

> > > > > > > > >>> Chloride 103 (97-108)

> > > > > > > > >>> Carbon Dioxide 23 (20-32)

> > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > >>> TIBC 280 (250-450)

> > > > > > > > >>> UIBC 185 (150-375)

> > > > > > > > >>> Iron Serum 95 (35-155)

> > > > > > > > >>> Iron Sat 34 (15-55)

> > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > >>> Currently taking 56.25 Cynomel, 30 HC, Blue Bonnet Iron,

Mag oil, Celtic Sea Salt

> > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > >>> How much iron should I continue to take? Any other

thoughts?

> > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > >>> TIA, Aimee

> > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > >>> ------------------------------------

> > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > >>> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing

our experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent

doctor.

[Guest guest]

Is there a file somewhere that lists the guidelines for getting labs done?

Something that lists when you get a specific lab done you need to be fasting, or

you need to skip HC etc.....

> > > > > > > > >>> Sodium 137 (135-145)

> > > > > > > > >>> Potassium 3.7 (3.5-5.2)

> > > > > > > > >>> Chloride 103 (97-108)

> > > > > > > > >>> Carbon Dioxide 23 (20-32)

> > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > >>> TIBC 280 (250-450)

> > > > > > > > >>> UIBC 185 (150-375)

> > > > > > > > >>> Iron Serum 95 (35-155)

> > > > > > > > >>> Iron Sat 34 (15-55)

> > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > >>> Currently taking 56.25 Cynomel, 30 HC, Blue Bonnet Iron,

Mag oil, Celtic Sea Salt

> > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > >>> How much iron should I continue to take? Any other

thoughts?

> > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > >>> TIA, Aimee

> > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > >>> ------------------------------------

> > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > >>> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing

our experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent

doctor.

[Guest guest]

Is there a file somewhere that lists the guidelines for getting labs done?

Something that lists when you get a specific lab done you need to be fasting, or

you need to skip HC etc.....

> > > > > > > > >>> Sodium 137 (135-145)

> > > > > > > > >>> Potassium 3.7 (3.5-5.2)

> > > > > > > > >>> Chloride 103 (97-108)

> > > > > > > > >>> Carbon Dioxide 23 (20-32)

> > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > >>> TIBC 280 (250-450)

> > > > > > > > >>> UIBC 185 (150-375)

> > > > > > > > >>> Iron Serum 95 (35-155)

> > > > > > > > >>> Iron Sat 34 (15-55)

> > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > >>> Currently taking 56.25 Cynomel, 30 HC, Blue Bonnet Iron,

Mag oil, Celtic Sea Salt

> > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > >>> How much iron should I continue to take? Any other

thoughts?

> > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > >>> TIA, Aimee

> > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > >>> ------------------------------------

> > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > >>> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing

our experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent

doctor.

[Guest guest]

Lethal Lee has a good page of pre-test guidelines, here's the link:

http://forums.realthyroidhelp.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=19035

> > > > > > > > > >>> Sodium 137 (135-145)

> > > > > > > > > >>> Potassium 3.7 (3.5-5.2)

> > > > > > > > > >>> Chloride 103 (97-108)

> > > > > > > > > >>> Carbon Dioxide 23 (20-32)

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>> TIBC 280 (250-450)

> > > > > > > > > >>> UIBC 185 (150-375)

> > > > > > > > > >>> Iron Serum 95 (35-155)

> > > > > > > > > >>> Iron Sat 34 (15-55)

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>> Currently taking 56.25 Cynomel, 30 HC, Blue Bonnet Iron,

Mag oil, Celtic Sea Salt

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>> How much iron should I continue to take? Any other

thoughts?

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>> TIA, Aimee

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>> ------------------------------------

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>> We are not medical professionals here, just patients

sharing our experiences. Please use this information with the help of a

competent doctor.

[Guest guest]

Lethal Lee has a good page of pre-test guidelines, here's the link:

http://forums.realthyroidhelp.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=19035

> > > > > > > > > >>> Sodium 137 (135-145)

> > > > > > > > > >>> Potassium 3.7 (3.5-5.2)

> > > > > > > > > >>> Chloride 103 (97-108)

> > > > > > > > > >>> Carbon Dioxide 23 (20-32)

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>> TIBC 280 (250-450)

> > > > > > > > > >>> UIBC 185 (150-375)

> > > > > > > > > >>> Iron Serum 95 (35-155)

> > > > > > > > > >>> Iron Sat 34 (15-55)

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>> Currently taking 56.25 Cynomel, 30 HC, Blue Bonnet Iron,

Mag oil, Celtic Sea Salt

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>> How much iron should I continue to take? Any other

thoughts?

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>> TIA, Aimee

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>> ------------------------------------

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>> We are not medical professionals here, just patients

sharing our experiences. Please use this information with the help of a

competent doctor.