Re: cytomel dosing question! help.? Day 5 ...

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>3. Should i be taking a 5th dose? And if so, how much?

>

>Also, I am taking this sublingually. Any thoughts on that?

>

>Any input is SO appreciated! I was originally diagnosed with high rt3

>over 2 years ago, and I was on compounded t3 from Holtorf Med. for about 8

months and stopped taking it Jan. 09. It didn't do much, at the time anyway....

Sublingual was fine.

I knew what I meant when I wrote that web page, I may not have been as

clear as I could though as I put the whole RT3 site together in a week

while working as well!

What I tried to say was you can't take less than a quarter tablet, you

need to spread it out;

That means you can go up to 5 quarter tablets in a day in separate

doses

you can then start replacing quarters with halves 1 at a time so

initially you may be on

1/4, 1/4 at 12 hour intervals

then go to

1/4, 1/4, 1/4, 1/4

then a 5th dose at bed time

1/4, 1/4, 1/4, 1/4, 1/4

then one at a time go to half

1/2,1/4, 1/4, 1/4, 1/4,

1/2,1/4, 1/2, 1/4, 1/4,

1/2,1/4, 1/2, 1/4, 1/2,

1/2,1/2, 1/2, 1/4, 1/2,

1/2,1/2, 1/2, 1/2, 1/2,

Then go up by half at a time

1, 1/2, 1/2, 1/2, 1/2,

1, 1/2, 1, 1/2, 1/2,

1, 1/2, 1, 1/2, 1

So you are increasing little at a time

Each time you need to decide if you are ready for that increase,

pulse, temperature, etc.

Nick

--

for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

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I always use four doses a dya which need ot be at leats 5 hiurs apart to

keep from loading the dose on top of the last one. Once oyu are at 4

6.25mcg doses then you move the first dose to 12.5mcg then in 3-5 days

move the third dose ot 12.5mcg then in 3-5 days the socond dose ot

12.5mcg then the last dose to 12.5mcg so all your doses at this poitn

are 12.5mcg, then oyur next increase go to 25mcg in the AM leave the

other doses the same, then in 3-5 days move ot 25mcg for third dose

leaving other doses the same, then add to the other two times just as

you did the first time around. The ogal is to try to keep the T3 stabel

as we cn all day

>>

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>> http://faqhelp.webs.com/

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>> http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

>>

> Hi!

>

> I have been off of a 2 week naturethroid trial for a month now, and I started

cynomel (grossman from mexico) 5 days ago. I started taking 1/4

> 25mcg 4x a day, 3 hours apart. Today is day 5, and I took 1/2 at 6am today

(12.5 mcg).

>

> I have questions about dosing... I am super confused. From the website

> http://thyroid-rt3.com/dosing.htm (which I've read about 100 times!)

> it says:

>

> When you start at a low dose the 25mcg tablets break into quarters with care

your initial dose increases can be by filling in blank time slots.

>

> Once they are all filled in with quarter tablet doses you can start increasing

them to half tablet doses one at a time starting with the morning dose.

>

> Once you are on half a tablet at each slot again you can start increasing to a

while tablet at each starting in the morning.

>

> 1. Does this mean the rest of my doses should stay at 1/4 (6.25 mcg) today?

>

> 2. When do I start upping to 1/2 for all 4 doses?

>

> 3. Should i be taking a 5th dose? And if so, how much?

>

> Also, I am taking this sublingually. Any thoughts on that?

>

> Any input is SO appreciated! I was originally diagnosed with high rt3

> over 2 years ago, and I was on compounded t3 from Holtorf Med. for about 8

months and stopped taking it Jan. 09. It didn't do much, at the time anyway....

>

> Thank you!!!

>

>

>

>

>

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Thanks Nick!

Your website is amazing....

So, to be clear (I get confused easily, there's a lot of " directions " to

digest)...

If I took 1/2 at 6AM today, I'd stick to 1/4 at 9, 12, and 3pm?

how much would I take for the 5th dose? 1/4 always, or just add a 5th dose??

Also, I noticed feeling sort of a " shock " feeling in my chest/ stomach area

after the 1/2 today. If you've ever taken ritalin (I have) it feels kind of

like that. It's also what I felt like on a very small amount of

Naturethroid....

Does this go away? Is this normal (meaning body adjustment that is standard) ,

or a sign that it's too much?

And if I read what you wrote correctly, I would then dose 1/2 6/7 am, `1/2 9/10

am, and 1/4 12 / 1pm , 1/4 3/4pm, etc... switching each dose out one day at a

time from 1/4 to 1/2 per time slot (just one per day until all time slots are at

1/2) etcc...????

Thanks.

Also, how would I know it's " working " properly? As I said before, the 37.5 mcg

of t3 compounded I was on a couple years ago, I felt NOTHING. but I also was in

TERRIBLE shape with a ton of other issues that were all severe (adrenals, cfs,

fibro, epstein barr, insulin resistance, lady hormone problems, on andon.....)

Thanks!!!!!!

>

> Sublingual was fine.

>

> I knew what I meant when I wrote that web page, I may not have been as

> clear as I could though as I put the whole RT3 site together in a week

> while working as well!

>

> What I tried to say was you can't take less than a quarter tablet, you

> need to spread it out;

>

> That means you can go up to 5 quarter tablets in a day in separate

> doses

>

> you can then start replacing quarters with halves 1 at a time so

> initially you may be on

>

> 1/4, 1/4 at 12 hour intervals

>

> then go to

>

> 1/4, 1/4, 1/4, 1/4

>

> then a 5th dose at bed time

>

> 1/4, 1/4, 1/4, 1/4, 1/4

>

> then one at a time go to half

>

> 1/2,1/4, 1/4, 1/4, 1/4,

>

> 1/2,1/4, 1/2, 1/4, 1/4,

>

> 1/2,1/4, 1/2, 1/4, 1/2,

>

> 1/2,1/2, 1/2, 1/4, 1/2,

>

> 1/2,1/2, 1/2, 1/2, 1/2,

>

> Then go up by half at a time

>

> 1, 1/2, 1/2, 1/2, 1/2,

>

> 1, 1/2, 1, 1/2, 1/2,

>

> 1, 1/2, 1, 1/2, 1

>

> So you are increasing little at a time

>

> Each time you need to decide if you are ready for that increase,

> pulse, temperature, etc.

>

> Nick

>

> --

>

> for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

>

> www.thyroid-rt3.com

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks! I was going by the timing schedule on Nick's website

http://thyroid-rt3.com/dosing.htm

" My dosing times are:-

7am

10am

1pm

4pm

Bed time as I put the light out. "

As I wrote earlier, I have been taking it sublingually...

5 hours apart would be sort of difficult for me due to bedtime hours,

supplements, etc.... Would 4 hours apart work?

Also, if I am taking it sublingually, do the " rules " about taking calcium and

iron 4 hours AFTER only apply? I am told by Janie Bowthorpe this includes food

with Calcium and Iron ( i forget what other things to avoid with t3 meds) It's

a lot to manage!!!!

Thanks!!!!!

>

> I always use four doses a dya which need ot be at leats 5 hiurs apart to

> keep from loading the dose on top of the last one. Once oyu are at 4

> 6.25mcg doses then you move the first dose to 12.5mcg then in 3-5 days

> move the third dose ot 12.5mcg then in 3-5 days the socond dose ot

> 12.5mcg then the last dose to 12.5mcg so all your doses at this poitn

> are 12.5mcg, then oyur next increase go to 25mcg in the AM leave the

> other doses the same, then in 3-5 days move ot 25mcg for third dose

> leaving other doses the same, then add to the other two times just as

> you did the first time around. The ogal is to try to keep the T3 stabel

> as we cn all day

>

>

> >>

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> >>

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> >> http://faqhelp.webs.com/

> >>

> >> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> >> http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

> >>

>

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> >

> >

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

>If I took 1/2 at 6AM today, I'd stick to 1/4 at 9, 12, and 3pm?

>

>how much would I take for the 5th dose? 1/4 always, or just add a 5th dose??

I would have added the bed time dose before starting to increase any

doses.

only change one dose at a time the increase is the total increase for

the day

Nick

--

for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

www.thyroid-rt3.com

[Guest guest]

>Also, if I am taking it sublingually, do the " rules " about taking calcium and

iron 4 hours AFTER only apply? I am told by Janie Bowthorpe this includes food

with Calcium and Iron ( i forget what other things to avoid with t3 meds) It's

a lot to manage!!!!

You take anything with it you like if it's sublingual, that way they

don't meet in the digestive tract

Nick

--

for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

www.thyroid-rt3.com

[Guest guest]

Thanks NIck!!

Ok one more question,please... Val said take 4 doses 5 hours apart,

Your website suggested 3 hours apart 4 doses, and 5th dose before bedtime.

I have not slept through the night in 5 years. I wake up between 4-8 times a

night. (I've tried EVERYTHING. I mean LITERALLY EVERYTHING.)

Can you please explain 1. why 5th dose? 2. Would 5th dose do anything besides

help? (as in could it work against me in any way??)

3. Difference between 3 hours between doses and 5 hours between doses? As in

what the advantages/ disadvantages would be.

As of today, I wasn't sure what to do so I decided on the middle, at 4 hours

apart.

Insight would be SO HELPFUl..... THank you thank you thank you!!

>

> >Also, if I am taking it sublingually, do the " rules " about taking calcium and

iron 4 hours AFTER only apply? I am told by Janie Bowthorpe this includes food

with Calcium and Iron ( i forget what other things to avoid with t3 meds) It's

a lot to manage!!!!

>

> You take anything with it you like if it's sublingual, that way they

> don't meet in the digestive tract

>

> Nick

>

> --

>

> for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

>

> www.thyroid-rt3.com

>

[Guest guest]

For MY system, I can feel T3 doses ebb an dstop working abotu 6 hours

after I take them. so FOR ME 5 hour dosing works to keep me from having

lows and yet not load a second dose in top of one thtat si still wokring

WELL. Some people burn through T3 faster than others, if oyu feel it

drop betwen doses oyu can moe then closer to gether, Other wise I would

start wiht 4 times a day dosiong at least 5 hours apart.

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> Thanks NIck!!

>

>

> Ok one more question,please... Val said take 4 doses 5 hours apart,

>

> Your website suggested 3 hours apart 4 doses, and 5th dose before bedtime.

>

> I have not slept through the night in 5 years. I wake up between 4-8 times a

night. (I've tried EVERYTHING. I mean LITERALLY EVERYTHING.)

>

> Can you please explain 1. why 5th dose? 2. Would 5th dose do anything

besides help? (as in could it work against me in any way??)

>

> 3. Difference between 3 hours between doses and 5 hours between doses? As in

what the advantages/ disadvantages would be.

>

> As of today, I wasn't sure what to do so I decided on the middle, at 4 hours

apart.

>

> Insight would be SO HELPFUl..... THank you thank you thank you!!

>

>

>

>

>>

>>

>>> Also, if I am taking it sublingually, do the " rules " about taking calcium

and iron 4 hours AFTER only apply? I am told by Janie Bowthorpe this includes

food with Calcium and Iron ( i forget what other things to avoid with t3 meds)

It's a lot to manage!!!!

>>>

>> You take anything with it you like if it's sublingual, that way they

>> don't meet in the digestive tract

>>

>> Nick

>>

>> --

>>

>> for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

>>

>> www.thyroid-rt3.com

>>

>>

>

>

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>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Aha! Thanks Val, that makes sense... I am new to these meds, after not being

on them for so many years it's a lot of info, and I thought they were " rules "

sort of thing.

I can personally feel an " itch " , does that make sense? at about 3 1/2

hours....

Thanks so much.

What does a typical " low " or " drop " feel like?

> > Thanks NIck!!

> >

> >

> > Ok one more question,please... Val said take 4 doses 5 hours apart,

> >

> > Your website suggested 3 hours apart 4 doses, and 5th dose before bedtime.

> >

> > I have not slept through the night in 5 years. I wake up between 4-8 times a

night. (I've tried EVERYTHING. I mean LITERALLY EVERYTHING.)

> >

> > Can you please explain 1. why 5th dose? 2. Would 5th dose do anything

besides help? (as in could it work against me in any way??)

> >

> > 3. Difference between 3 hours between doses and 5 hours between doses? As

in what the advantages/ disadvantages would be.

> >

> > As of today, I wasn't sure what to do so I decided on the middle, at 4 hours

apart.

> >

> > Insight would be SO HELPFUl..... THank you thank you thank you!!

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

For me, when my T3 drops I cannot keep my eyes open and my head hits the

table. Used to think I had narcolepsy! LOL

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http://faqhelp.webs.com/

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http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

http://artisticgrooming.net/

> Aha! Thanks Val, that makes sense... I am new to these meds, after not being

on them for so many years it's a lot of info, and I thought they were " rules "

sort of thing.

>

> I can personally feel an " itch " , does that make sense? at about 3 1/2

> hours....

>

> Thanks so much.

>

> What does a typical " low " or " drop " feel like?

>

>

>>

>>> Thanks NIck!!

>>>

>>>

>>> Ok one more question,please... Val said take 4 doses 5 hours apart,

>>>

>>> Your website suggested 3 hours apart 4 doses, and 5th dose before bedtime.

>>>

>>> I have not slept through the night in 5 years. I wake up between 4-8 times a

night. (I've tried EVERYTHING. I mean LITERALLY EVERYTHING.)

>>>

>>> Can you please explain 1. why 5th dose? 2. Would 5th dose do anything

besides help? (as in could it work against me in any way??)

>>>

>>> 3. Difference between 3 hours between doses and 5 hours between doses? As

in what the advantages/ disadvantages would be.

>>>

>>> As of today, I wasn't sure what to do so I decided on the middle, at 4 hours

apart.

>>>

>>> Insight would be SO HELPFUl..... THank you thank you thank you!!

>>>

>>>

>>>

>

>>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our experiences.

Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor. Yahoo! Groups

Links

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>I have not slept through the night in 5 years. I wake up between 4-8 times a

night. (I've tried EVERYTHING. I mean LITERALLY EVERYTHING.)

A bed time dose can help sleep

>

>Can you please explain 1. why 5th dose? 2. Would 5th dose do anything besides

help? (as in could it work against me in any way??)

It may help sleep, poor sleep is often caused by high night time

cortisol and that can be caused by being hypo

>

>3. Difference between 3 hours between doses and 5 hours between doses? As in

what the advantages/ disadvantages would be.

>

Depends on the state of your adrenals, personally I did better with

less T3 more often, if I took the same total but in less doses it

caused temperature dips from not enough cortisol

>As of today, I wasn't sure what to do so I decided on the middle, at 4 hours

apart.

It doesn't matter too much how often, whether it's 4, 5, or 6 times a

day as long as you are reasonably consistent.

Pick a pattern and stick to it, I count out each days worth into a

bottle I carry round with me and can then tell what I have taken that

day and hence if I have missed a dose

Nick

--

for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

www.thyroid-rt3.com

[Guest guest]

>I have not slept through the night in 5 years. I wake up between 4-8 times a

night. (I've tried EVERYTHING. I mean LITERALLY EVERYTHING.)

A bed time dose can help sleep

>

>Can you please explain 1. why 5th dose? 2. Would 5th dose do anything besides

help? (as in could it work against me in any way??)

It may help sleep, poor sleep is often caused by high night time

cortisol and that can be caused by being hypo

>

>3. Difference between 3 hours between doses and 5 hours between doses? As in

what the advantages/ disadvantages would be.

>

Depends on the state of your adrenals, personally I did better with

less T3 more often, if I took the same total but in less doses it

caused temperature dips from not enough cortisol

>As of today, I wasn't sure what to do so I decided on the middle, at 4 hours

apart.

It doesn't matter too much how often, whether it's 4, 5, or 6 times a

day as long as you are reasonably consistent.

Pick a pattern and stick to it, I count out each days worth into a

bottle I carry round with me and can then tell what I have taken that

day and hence if I have missed a dose

Nick

--

for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

www.thyroid-rt3.com

[Guest guest]

>I have not slept through the night in 5 years. I wake up between 4-8 times a

night. (I've tried EVERYTHING. I mean LITERALLY EVERYTHING.)

A bed time dose can help sleep

>

>Can you please explain 1. why 5th dose? 2. Would 5th dose do anything besides

help? (as in could it work against me in any way??)

It may help sleep, poor sleep is often caused by high night time

cortisol and that can be caused by being hypo

>

>3. Difference between 3 hours between doses and 5 hours between doses? As in

what the advantages/ disadvantages would be.

>

Depends on the state of your adrenals, personally I did better with

less T3 more often, if I took the same total but in less doses it

caused temperature dips from not enough cortisol

>As of today, I wasn't sure what to do so I decided on the middle, at 4 hours

apart.

It doesn't matter too much how often, whether it's 4, 5, or 6 times a

day as long as you are reasonably consistent.

Pick a pattern and stick to it, I count out each days worth into a

bottle I carry round with me and can then tell what I have taken that

day and hence if I have missed a dose

Nick

--

for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

www.thyroid-rt3.com

[Guest guest]

Omg that makes sense me too!!! except that for now, i can take the t3 and feel

energy, but it still feels " tight " kind of like ritalin type energy, hard to

explain. And yet at the same time i'm sleepy above my neck!!! does this make

sense!?

And yes, I used to think I was narcoleptic too!!!

> >>

> >>> Thanks NIck!!

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> Ok one more question,please... Val said take 4 doses 5 hours apart,

> >>>

> >>> Your website suggested 3 hours apart 4 doses, and 5th dose before

bedtime.

> >>>

> >>> I have not slept through the night in 5 years. I wake up between 4-8 times

a night. (I've tried EVERYTHING. I mean LITERALLY EVERYTHING.)

> >>>

> >>> Can you please explain 1. why 5th dose? 2. Would 5th dose do anything

besides help? (as in could it work against me in any way??)

> >>>

> >>> 3. Difference between 3 hours between doses and 5 hours between doses?

As in what the advantages/ disadvantages would be.

> >>>

> >>> As of today, I wasn't sure what to do so I decided on the middle, at 4

hours apart.

> >>>

> >>> Insight would be SO HELPFUl..... THank you thank you thank you!!

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> > We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our

experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.

[Guest guest]

Omg that makes sense me too!!! except that for now, i can take the t3 and feel

energy, but it still feels " tight " kind of like ritalin type energy, hard to

explain. And yet at the same time i'm sleepy above my neck!!! does this make

sense!?

And yes, I used to think I was narcoleptic too!!!

> >>

> >>> Thanks NIck!!

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> Ok one more question,please... Val said take 4 doses 5 hours apart,

> >>>

> >>> Your website suggested 3 hours apart 4 doses, and 5th dose before

bedtime.

> >>>

> >>> I have not slept through the night in 5 years. I wake up between 4-8 times

a night. (I've tried EVERYTHING. I mean LITERALLY EVERYTHING.)

> >>>

> >>> Can you please explain 1. why 5th dose? 2. Would 5th dose do anything

besides help? (as in could it work against me in any way??)

> >>>

> >>> 3. Difference between 3 hours between doses and 5 hours between doses?

As in what the advantages/ disadvantages would be.

> >>>

> >>> As of today, I wasn't sure what to do so I decided on the middle, at 4

hours apart.

> >>>

> >>> Insight would be SO HELPFUl..... THank you thank you thank you!!

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> > We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our

experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.

[Guest guest]

Omg that makes sense me too!!! except that for now, i can take the t3 and feel

energy, but it still feels " tight " kind of like ritalin type energy, hard to

explain. And yet at the same time i'm sleepy above my neck!!! does this make

sense!?

And yes, I used to think I was narcoleptic too!!!

> >>

> >>> Thanks NIck!!

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> Ok one more question,please... Val said take 4 doses 5 hours apart,

> >>>

> >>> Your website suggested 3 hours apart 4 doses, and 5th dose before

bedtime.

> >>>

> >>> I have not slept through the night in 5 years. I wake up between 4-8 times

a night. (I've tried EVERYTHING. I mean LITERALLY EVERYTHING.)

> >>>

> >>> Can you please explain 1. why 5th dose? 2. Would 5th dose do anything

besides help? (as in could it work against me in any way??)

> >>>

> >>> 3. Difference between 3 hours between doses and 5 hours between doses?

As in what the advantages/ disadvantages would be.

> >>>

> >>> As of today, I wasn't sure what to do so I decided on the middle, at 4

hours apart.

> >>>

> >>> Insight would be SO HELPFUl..... THank you thank you thank you!!

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> > We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our

experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.

[Guest guest]

Thanks Nick,

Yes I have had SEVERE adrenal problems...

I am taking a ton of stuff right now (I took cortisol when i originally got

diagnosed a couple of years ago, which also did nothing at least as how I

felt...) Drenatropin PRG (bovine adrenals) b5, dhea, selenium, gosh there's a

LOT more...

I also take something from Standard Process called Min Chex (it's got calcium,

niacin, b6 and iodine, plus a ton of other stuff in it)

Is high cortisol why i sweat BAD when I sleep? like the back of my neck up to my

hairline and my chest , I wake up SOAKED through the night, and even when I nap

during the day I can sweat like this!!! I also get terrible nightmares!

????

I've been marking my temps per dr. rind graph for a couple of weeks now, and a

week and a half ago I avg. at 98.4!! since then I'm averaging between 98.6 and

98.2 each day, with the last 4 days or so all averaging at 98.4

** but my temp. is low first thing in the a.m. (97.9) ** not sure if this

means anything???

>

> >I have not slept through the night in 5 years. I wake up between 4-8 times a

night. (I've tried EVERYTHING. I mean LITERALLY EVERYTHING.)

>

> A bed time dose can help sleep

>

>

> >

> >Can you please explain 1. why 5th dose? 2. Would 5th dose do anything

besides help? (as in could it work against me in any way??)

>

> It may help sleep, poor sleep is often caused by high night time

> cortisol and that can be caused by being hypo

> >

> >3. Difference between 3 hours between doses and 5 hours between doses? As

in what the advantages/ disadvantages would be.

> >

> Depends on the state of your adrenals, personally I did better with

> less T3 more often, if I took the same total but in less doses it

> caused temperature dips from not enough cortisol

>

> >As of today, I wasn't sure what to do so I decided on the middle, at 4 hours

apart.

>

> It doesn't matter too much how often, whether it's 4, 5, or 6 times a

> day as long as you are reasonably consistent.

>

> Pick a pattern and stick to it, I count out each days worth into a

> bottle I carry round with me and can then tell what I have taken that

> day and hence if I have missed a dose

>

> Nick

>

> --

>

> for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

>

> www.thyroid-rt3.com

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Nick,

Yes I have had SEVERE adrenal problems...

I am taking a ton of stuff right now (I took cortisol when i originally got

diagnosed a couple of years ago, which also did nothing at least as how I

felt...) Drenatropin PRG (bovine adrenals) b5, dhea, selenium, gosh there's a

LOT more...

I also take something from Standard Process called Min Chex (it's got calcium,

niacin, b6 and iodine, plus a ton of other stuff in it)

Is high cortisol why i sweat BAD when I sleep? like the back of my neck up to my

hairline and my chest , I wake up SOAKED through the night, and even when I nap

during the day I can sweat like this!!! I also get terrible nightmares!

????

I've been marking my temps per dr. rind graph for a couple of weeks now, and a

week and a half ago I avg. at 98.4!! since then I'm averaging between 98.6 and

98.2 each day, with the last 4 days or so all averaging at 98.4

** but my temp. is low first thing in the a.m. (97.9) ** not sure if this

means anything???

>

> >I have not slept through the night in 5 years. I wake up between 4-8 times a

night. (I've tried EVERYTHING. I mean LITERALLY EVERYTHING.)

>

> A bed time dose can help sleep

>

>

> >

> >Can you please explain 1. why 5th dose? 2. Would 5th dose do anything

besides help? (as in could it work against me in any way??)

>

> It may help sleep, poor sleep is often caused by high night time

> cortisol and that can be caused by being hypo

> >

> >3. Difference between 3 hours between doses and 5 hours between doses? As

in what the advantages/ disadvantages would be.

> >

> Depends on the state of your adrenals, personally I did better with

> less T3 more often, if I took the same total but in less doses it

> caused temperature dips from not enough cortisol

>

> >As of today, I wasn't sure what to do so I decided on the middle, at 4 hours

apart.

>

> It doesn't matter too much how often, whether it's 4, 5, or 6 times a

> day as long as you are reasonably consistent.

>

> Pick a pattern and stick to it, I count out each days worth into a

> bottle I carry round with me and can then tell what I have taken that

> day and hence if I have missed a dose

>

> Nick

>

> --

>

> for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

>

> www.thyroid-rt3.com

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Nick,

Yes I have had SEVERE adrenal problems...

I am taking a ton of stuff right now (I took cortisol when i originally got

diagnosed a couple of years ago, which also did nothing at least as how I

felt...) Drenatropin PRG (bovine adrenals) b5, dhea, selenium, gosh there's a

LOT more...

I also take something from Standard Process called Min Chex (it's got calcium,

niacin, b6 and iodine, plus a ton of other stuff in it)

Is high cortisol why i sweat BAD when I sleep? like the back of my neck up to my

hairline and my chest , I wake up SOAKED through the night, and even when I nap

during the day I can sweat like this!!! I also get terrible nightmares!

????

I've been marking my temps per dr. rind graph for a couple of weeks now, and a

week and a half ago I avg. at 98.4!! since then I'm averaging between 98.6 and

98.2 each day, with the last 4 days or so all averaging at 98.4

** but my temp. is low first thing in the a.m. (97.9) ** not sure if this

means anything???

>

> >I have not slept through the night in 5 years. I wake up between 4-8 times a

night. (I've tried EVERYTHING. I mean LITERALLY EVERYTHING.)

>

> A bed time dose can help sleep

>

>

> >

> >Can you please explain 1. why 5th dose? 2. Would 5th dose do anything

besides help? (as in could it work against me in any way??)

>

> It may help sleep, poor sleep is often caused by high night time

> cortisol and that can be caused by being hypo

> >

> >3. Difference between 3 hours between doses and 5 hours between doses? As

in what the advantages/ disadvantages would be.

> >

> Depends on the state of your adrenals, personally I did better with

> less T3 more often, if I took the same total but in less doses it

> caused temperature dips from not enough cortisol

>

> >As of today, I wasn't sure what to do so I decided on the middle, at 4 hours

apart.

>

> It doesn't matter too much how often, whether it's 4, 5, or 6 times a

> day as long as you are reasonably consistent.

>

> Pick a pattern and stick to it, I count out each days worth into a

> bottle I carry round with me and can then tell what I have taken that

> day and hence if I have missed a dose

>

> Nick

>

> --

>

> for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

>

> www.thyroid-rt3.com

>

[Guest guest]

I'm currently taking 20mcg am, 15 mcg lunchtime, 15 mcg dinner time and 20 mcg before bed. They are all 5 hours apart. Could this swelling be because I need more T3, like adding 5 to first one and then to the other two daytime doses? Don't worry Val, I'm waiting to see what the blood tests show before I change anything, but would like to know what your opinion is about this.

<>Roni

Immortality exists!

It's called knowledge!

Just because something isn't seen

doesn't mean it's not there<>> Hi!>> I have been off of a 2 week naturethroid trial for a month now, and I started cynomel (grossman from mexico) 5 days ago. I started taking

1/4> 25mcg 4x a day, 3 hours apart. Today is day 5, and I took 1/2 at 6am today (12.5 mcg).>> I have questions about dosing... I am super confused. From the website> http://thyroid-rt3.com/dosing.htm (which I've read about 100 times!)> it says:>> When you start at a low dose the 25mcg tablets break into quarters with care your initial dose increases can be by filling in blank time slots.>> Once they are all filled in with quarter tablet doses you can start increasing them to half tablet doses one at a time starting with the morning dose.>> Once you are on half a tablet at each slot again you can start increasing to a while tablet at each starting in the morning.>> 1. Does this mean the rest of my doses should stay at 1/4 (6.25 mcg) today?>> 2. When do I

start upping to 1/2 for all 4 doses?>> 3. Should i be taking a 5th dose? And if so, how much?>> Also, I am taking this sublingually. Any thoughts on that?>> Any input is SO appreciated! I was originally diagnosed with high rt3> over 2 years ago, and I was on compounded t3 from Holtorf Med. for about 8 months and stopped taking it Jan. 09. It didn't do much, at the time anyway....>> Thank you!!!>> >>>> ------------------------------------>> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.

[Guest guest]

I'm currently taking 20mcg am, 15 mcg lunchtime, 15 mcg dinner time and 20 mcg before bed. They are all 5 hours apart. Could this swelling be because I need more T3, like adding 5 to first one and then to the other two daytime doses? Don't worry Val, I'm waiting to see what the blood tests show before I change anything, but would like to know what your opinion is about this.

<>Roni

Immortality exists!

It's called knowledge!

Just because something isn't seen

doesn't mean it's not there<>> Hi!>> I have been off of a 2 week naturethroid trial for a month now, and I started cynomel (grossman from mexico) 5 days ago. I started taking

1/4> 25mcg 4x a day, 3 hours apart. Today is day 5, and I took 1/2 at 6am today (12.5 mcg).>> I have questions about dosing... I am super confused. From the website> http://thyroid-rt3.com/dosing.htm (which I've read about 100 times!)> it says:>> When you start at a low dose the 25mcg tablets break into quarters with care your initial dose increases can be by filling in blank time slots.>> Once they are all filled in with quarter tablet doses you can start increasing them to half tablet doses one at a time starting with the morning dose.>> Once you are on half a tablet at each slot again you can start increasing to a while tablet at each starting in the morning.>> 1. Does this mean the rest of my doses should stay at 1/4 (6.25 mcg) today?>> 2. When do I

start upping to 1/2 for all 4 doses?>> 3. Should i be taking a 5th dose? And if so, how much?>> Also, I am taking this sublingually. Any thoughts on that?>> Any input is SO appreciated! I was originally diagnosed with high rt3> over 2 years ago, and I was on compounded t3 from Holtorf Med. for about 8 months and stopped taking it Jan. 09. It didn't do much, at the time anyway....>> Thank you!!!>> >>>> ------------------------------------>> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.

[Guest guest]

I'm currently taking 20mcg am, 15 mcg lunchtime, 15 mcg dinner time and 20 mcg before bed. They are all 5 hours apart. Could this swelling be because I need more T3, like adding 5 to first one and then to the other two daytime doses? Don't worry Val, I'm waiting to see what the blood tests show before I change anything, but would like to know what your opinion is about this.

<>Roni

Immortality exists!

It's called knowledge!

Just because something isn't seen

doesn't mean it's not there<>> Hi!>> I have been off of a 2 week naturethroid trial for a month now, and I started cynomel (grossman from mexico) 5 days ago. I started taking

1/4> 25mcg 4x a day, 3 hours apart. Today is day 5, and I took 1/2 at 6am today (12.5 mcg).>> I have questions about dosing... I am super confused. From the website> http://thyroid-rt3.com/dosing.htm (which I've read about 100 times!)> it says:>> When you start at a low dose the 25mcg tablets break into quarters with care your initial dose increases can be by filling in blank time slots.>> Once they are all filled in with quarter tablet doses you can start increasing them to half tablet doses one at a time starting with the morning dose.>> Once you are on half a tablet at each slot again you can start increasing to a while tablet at each starting in the morning.>> 1. Does this mean the rest of my doses should stay at 1/4 (6.25 mcg) today?>> 2. When do I

start upping to 1/2 for all 4 doses?>> 3. Should i be taking a 5th dose? And if so, how much?>> Also, I am taking this sublingually. Any thoughts on that?>> Any input is SO appreciated! I was originally diagnosed with high rt3> over 2 years ago, and I was on compounded t3 from Holtorf Med. for about 8 months and stopped taking it Jan. 09. It didn't do much, at the time anyway....>> Thank you!!!>> >>>> ------------------------------------>> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.

[Guest guest]

It coulds be but i would bring the nid day doses up to 20mcg before

raising the AM one more.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

http://artisticgrooming.net/

I'm currently taking 20mcg am, 15 mcg lunchtime, 15 mcg

dinner time and 20 mcg before bed. They are all 5 hours apart. Could

this swelling be because I need more T3, like adding 5 to first one and

then to the other two daytime doses? Don't worry Val, I'm waiting to

see what the blood tests show before I change anything, but would like

to know what your opinion is about this.

<>Roni

Immortality exists!

It's called knowledge!

Just because

something isn't seen

doesn't mean it's not there<>

> Hi!

>

> I have been off of a 2 week naturethroid trial for a month now,

and I started cynomel (grossman from mexico) 5 days ago. I started

taking 1/4

> 25mcg 4x a day, 3 hours apart. Today is day 5, and I took 1/2 at

6am today (12.5 mcg).

>

> I have questions about dosing... I am super confused. From the

website

> http://thyroid-rt3.com/dosing.htm (which I've

read about 100 times!)

> it says:

>

> When you start at a low dose the 25mcg tablets break into quarters

with care your initial dose increases can be by filling in blank time

slots.

>

> Once they are all filled in with quarter tablet doses you can

start increasing them to half tablet doses one at a time starting with

the morning dose.

>

> Once you are on half a tablet at each slot again you can start

increasing to a while tablet at each starting in the morning.

>

> 1. Does this mean the rest of my doses should stay at 1/4 (6.25

mcg) today?

>

> 2. When do I start upping to 1/2 for all 4 doses?

>

> 3. Should i be taking a 5th dose? And if so, how much?

>

> Also, I am taking this sublingually. Any thoughts on that?

>

> Any input is SO appreciated! I was originally diagnosed with high

rt3

> over 2 years ago, and I was on compounded t3 from Holtorf Med. for

about 8 months and stopped taking it Jan. 09. It didn't do much, at

the time anyway....

>

> Thank you!!!

>

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our

experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent

doctor.

[Guest guest]

It coulds be but i would bring the nid day doses up to 20mcg before

raising the AM one more.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

http://artisticgrooming.net/

I'm currently taking 20mcg am, 15 mcg lunchtime, 15 mcg

dinner time and 20 mcg before bed. They are all 5 hours apart. Could

this swelling be because I need more T3, like adding 5 to first one and

then to the other two daytime doses? Don't worry Val, I'm waiting to

see what the blood tests show before I change anything, but would like

to know what your opinion is about this.

<>Roni

Immortality exists!

It's called knowledge!

Just because

something isn't seen

doesn't mean it's not there<>

> Hi!

>

> I have been off of a 2 week naturethroid trial for a month now,

and I started cynomel (grossman from mexico) 5 days ago. I started

taking 1/4

> 25mcg 4x a day, 3 hours apart. Today is day 5, and I took 1/2 at

6am today (12.5 mcg).

>

> I have questions about dosing... I am super confused. From the

website

> http://thyroid-rt3.com/dosing.htm (which I've

read about 100 times!)

> it says:

>

> When you start at a low dose the 25mcg tablets break into quarters

with care your initial dose increases can be by filling in blank time

slots.

>

> Once they are all filled in with quarter tablet doses you can

start increasing them to half tablet doses one at a time starting with

the morning dose.

>

> Once you are on half a tablet at each slot again you can start

increasing to a while tablet at each starting in the morning.

>

> 1. Does this mean the rest of my doses should stay at 1/4 (6.25

mcg) today?

>

> 2. When do I start upping to 1/2 for all 4 doses?

>

> 3. Should i be taking a 5th dose? And if so, how much?

>

> Also, I am taking this sublingually. Any thoughts on that?

>

> Any input is SO appreciated! I was originally diagnosed with high

rt3

> over 2 years ago, and I was on compounded t3 from Holtorf Med. for

about 8 months and stopped taking it Jan. 09. It didn't do much, at

the time anyway....

>

> Thank you!!!

>

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our

experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent

doctor.

[Guest guest]

It coulds be but i would bring the nid day doses up to 20mcg before

raising the AM one more.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

http://artisticgrooming.net/

I'm currently taking 20mcg am, 15 mcg lunchtime, 15 mcg

dinner time and 20 mcg before bed. They are all 5 hours apart. Could

this swelling be because I need more T3, like adding 5 to first one and

then to the other two daytime doses? Don't worry Val, I'm waiting to

see what the blood tests show before I change anything, but would like

to know what your opinion is about this.

<>Roni

Immortality exists!

It's called knowledge!

Just because

something isn't seen

doesn't mean it's not there<>

> Hi!

>

> I have been off of a 2 week naturethroid trial for a month now,

and I started cynomel (grossman from mexico) 5 days ago. I started

taking 1/4

> 25mcg 4x a day, 3 hours apart. Today is day 5, and I took 1/2 at

6am today (12.5 mcg).

>

> I have questions about dosing... I am super confused. From the

website

> http://thyroid-rt3.com/dosing.htm (which I've

read about 100 times!)

> it says:

>

> When you start at a low dose the 25mcg tablets break into quarters

with care your initial dose increases can be by filling in blank time

slots.

>

> Once they are all filled in with quarter tablet doses you can

start increasing them to half tablet doses one at a time starting with

the morning dose.

>

> Once you are on half a tablet at each slot again you can start

increasing to a while tablet at each starting in the morning.

>

> 1. Does this mean the rest of my doses should stay at 1/4 (6.25

mcg) today?

>

> 2. When do I start upping to 1/2 for all 4 doses?

>

> 3. Should i be taking a 5th dose? And if so, how much?

>

> Also, I am taking this sublingually. Any thoughts on that?

>

> Any input is SO appreciated! I was originally diagnosed with high

rt3

> over 2 years ago, and I was on compounded t3 from Holtorf Med. for

about 8 months and stopped taking it Jan. 09. It didn't do much, at

the time anyway....

>

> Thank you!!!

>

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our

experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent

doctor.