Re: Not sure when/how much to titrate up.

[Guest guest]

Kel if oyu post saliva cortislllabs to the adrenals group you wil get

help wiht how ot dose HC by your labs and 10mg is not it. If oyu are low

enough ot need HC at all you need a minimum of 20mg. PLease join or

takethis question to them wiht saliva labs in the same post.

http://www.nthadrenalsweb.com

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

http://artisticgrooming.net/

> Hey,

>

> I've been taking the 25mcg of cytomel. I did seven days of 12.5 at 6 a.m,

then another half pill at 6:00 pm. Posted here, and was recommended to titrate

up to an addition 1/4 of a pill...so did that last Friday. Began losing a ton

of hair again, (think ten to 12 coming out each time I run my hand through...)

but have hung in there at that dose since last friday. Got my saliva test

results and was recommended to start HC creme, 10mg. So have been doing that

two days ago. Also began monitoring temps, 'though I really don't know how to

USE that information. Hair loss continuing and really annoying and sad. My

temps are averaging 97.5 for the last couple days anyway.

> I'm wondering now with the hair loss, did I have what I am reading about 'a

thyroid dump " and that's why the massive shed? Or am I just not on enough t3??

> I'm getting my estriol/free testosterone/progesterone tested next week, and

maybe that'll help me know some things...

> Till then, how often should I be adding cytomel, and can I expect this darned

hair stuff to END some day? (----and by end, I do not mean " and now she is

bald " ergo..no worries about more loss.)

> I have no idea how to does the HC creme, or how much in spite of looking at

all posted here...so am winging it. I just want to SLEEP, can't take melatonin,

DID buy some phosphotidyle whatchamacallit. AM taking about 120mg of iron and

the magnesium.

>

> Any help on knowing when/how much to dose the cytomel for a newbie whose whole

life have become about reading these message boards? I feel like all I do now

is take temps, take pills, monitor my high BP and stare at my bedroom ceiling at

three a.m., while also yanking tufts of my long hair out of the drain. It used

to be there was FAR more cat hair than kelly hair on my wood floors...not so

much any longer. Argh.

>

> Kel

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our experiences.

Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor. Yahoo! Groups

Links

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Oh Kel,

You made me laugh (and I know none of what you are going through is at all funny), but I read your post last night and seriously you had me laughing because I feel like I am doing the same thing!!(Taking pills, reading "group mail", watching the clock tick by way after midnight. Plus I have a daughter named and I call her Kel also. I am wondering why you can not take melatonin. I was advised to take melatonin, but I have stayed away from it not knowing if it would be a safe thing for me to do with a Hx of breast Ca. (Oh yeah like my Ativan is so clean and safe) I tried the phosphy stuff too. Had to go back to the Ativan. I am reading what people post as I am considering going on the Cytomel. But gosh G Whiz. I lost enough hair when I went through chemo and sure dont want to go through that again. I am curious to know if you were on the pig before you went on the cytomel and how much of the pig, (porcine) were you taking? I had

a terrible time with Armour last year. Got really sick on it. Let me know how long you have been doing the cytomel. And hang in there. Ruth

To: RT3_T3 Sent: Fri, September 3, 2010 9:58:51 PMSubject: Not sure when/how much to titrate up.

Hey,I've been taking the 25mcg of cytomel. I did seven days of 12.5 at 6 a.m, then another half pill at 6:00 pm. Posted here, and was recommended to titrate up to an addition 1/4 of a pill...so did that last Friday. Began losing a ton of hair again, (think ten to 12 coming out each time I run my hand through...) but have hung in there at that dose since last friday. Got my saliva test results and was recommended to start HC creme, 10mg. So have been doing that two days ago. Also began monitoring temps, 'though I really don't know how to USE that information. Hair loss continuing and really annoying and sad. My temps are averaging 97.5 for the last couple days anyway.I'm wondering now with the hair loss, did I have what I am reading about 'a thyroid dump" and that's why the massive shed? Or am I just not on enough t3??I'm getting my estriol/free testosterone/progesterone tested next week, and maybe that'll help me know some

things...Till then, how often should I be adding cytomel, and can I expect this darned hair stuff to END some day? (----and by end, I do not mean "and now she is bald" ergo..no worries about more loss.)I have no idea how to does the HC creme, or how much in spite of looking at all posted here...so am winging it. I just want to SLEEP, can't take melatonin, DID buy some phosphotidyle whatchamacallit. AM taking about 120mg of iron and the magnesium.Any help on knowing when/how much to dose the cytomel for a newbie whose whole life have become about reading these message boards? I feel like all I do now is take temps, take pills, monitor my high BP and stare at my bedroom ceiling at three a.m., while also yanking tufts of my long hair out of the drain. It used to be there was FAR more cat hair than kelly hair on my wood floors...not so much any longer. Argh.Kel

[Guest guest]

Hi : Val is right, dosing info from the Adrenal Group is needed. Once you

get it, here's a useful link from the " files " of that group, practical info on

using the HC cream:

go here

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/files/

and click on

HC Cream FAQ.pdf

It is usually recommended to get adrenals correctly supported first; then to

proceed with the T3-only protocol.

So once adrenals are in good shape, here's useful info on T3: (you may have

seen in already,) but just in case here's a link to Moderator Nick's excellent

RT3 website. It answered so many of my own questions on Cytomel & RT3:

main page

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

starting/dosing

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/dosing.htm

" Do I need to increase? "

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/doineed.htm

>

> Hey,

>

> I've been taking the 25mcg of cytomel. I did seven days of 12.5 at 6 a.m,

then another half pill at 6:00 pm. Posted here, and was recommended to titrate

up to an addition 1/4 of a pill...so did that last Friday. Began losing a ton

of hair again, (think ten to 12 coming out each time I run my hand through...)

but have hung in there at that dose since last friday. Got my saliva test

results and was recommended to start HC creme, 10mg. So have been doing that

two days ago. Also began monitoring temps, 'though I really don't know how to

USE that information. Hair loss continuing and really annoying and sad. My

temps are averaging 97.5 for the last couple days anyway.

> I'm wondering now with the hair loss, did I have what I am reading about 'a

thyroid dump " and that's why the massive shed? Or am I just not on enough t3??

> I'm getting my estriol/free testosterone/progesterone tested next week, and

maybe that'll help me know some things...

> Till then, how often should I be adding cytomel, and can I expect this darned

hair stuff to END some day? (----and by end, I do not mean " and now she is

bald " ergo..no worries about more loss.)

> I have no idea how to does the HC creme, or how much in spite of looking at

all posted here...so am winging it. I just want to SLEEP, can't take melatonin,

DID buy some phosphotidyle whatchamacallit. AM taking about 120mg of iron and

the magnesium.

>

> Any help on knowing when/how much to dose the cytomel for a newbie whose whole

life have become about reading these message boards? I feel like all I do now

is take temps, take pills, monitor my high BP and stare at my bedroom ceiling at

three a.m., while also yanking tufts of my long hair out of the drain. It used

to be there was FAR more cat hair than kelly hair on my wood floors...not so

much any longer. Argh.

>

> Kel

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you Val,

I will post the saliva results on Adrenals to find out about the HC dosing, but

my real question here was knowing when/how to add the cytomel doses. I've been

on the same dose 12.5, 12.5, and 6.24 mcg for about ten days. I just don't know

what I should be looking for to know when it's time to increase...is it just a

gut feeling or is there some formula. Today, when I took my noon dose, I

immediately felt all cold (something I've never felt before) and then a little

jittery for about an hour. I just now took my six pm. of the 6.25 (1/4 of a

pill...) and will see how it goes tonight. I have no idea how fast to crank it

up, when I had my tests run they were t3 2.4, rt3 296, so I know I've got

issues.

So how do you know? Is it just every five days? Is the hair loss owing to

holding at one dose too long? I've only been Rxd a 30 days supply of the

cytomel, and am worried my doc. won't re-prescribe if I crank it all gone in

less than a month, you know?

I'm also concerned, because for the last couple nights, in addition to waking up

at my normal 2 a.m., I've had the giant headache and some nausea going on. It

makes me wonder if I need another hit of the cytomel before I go to sleep at

night, and that it's too long of a space between pills to go from 6 pm to 6 am

when I re-dose.

Thoughts?

Kel

> > Hey,

> >

> > I've been taking the 25mcg of cytomel. I did seven days of 12.5 at 6 a.m,

then another half pill at 6:00 pm. Posted here, and was recommended to titrate

up to an addition 1/4 of a pill...so did that last Friday. Began losing a ton

of hair again, (think ten to 12 coming out each time I run my hand through...)

but have hung in there at that dose since last friday. Got my saliva test

results and was recommended to start HC creme, 10mg. So have been doing that

two days ago. Also began monitoring temps, 'though I really don't know how to

USE that information. Hair loss continuing and really annoying and sad. My

temps are averaging 97.5 for the last couple days anyway.

> > I'm wondering now with the hair loss, did I have what I am reading about 'a

thyroid dump " and that's why the massive shed? Or am I just not on enough t3??

> > I'm getting my estriol/free testosterone/progesterone tested next week, and

maybe that'll help me know some things...

> > Till then, how often should I be adding cytomel, and can I expect this

darned hair stuff to END some day? (----and by end, I do not mean " and now she

is bald " ergo..no worries about more loss.)

> > I have no idea how to does the HC creme, or how much in spite of looking at

all posted here...so am winging it. I just want to SLEEP, can't take melatonin,

DID buy some phosphotidyle whatchamacallit. AM taking about 120mg of iron and

the magnesium.

> >

> > Any help on knowing when/how much to dose the cytomel for a newbie whose

whole life have become about reading these message boards? I feel like all I do

now is take temps, take pills, monitor my high BP and stare at my bedroom

ceiling at three a.m., while also yanking tufts of my long hair out of the

drain. It used to be there was FAR more cat hair than kelly hair on my wood

floors...not so much any longer. Argh.

> >

> > Kel

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> > We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our

experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.

[Guest guest]

Thanks Margery,

I'm already taking the t3, and hoping I can get the adrenal stuff, presuming I

need HC, dealt with. Also raising my iron levels.

Will re-check Nicks' site.

:-)

Kel

> >

> > Hey,

> >

> > I've been taking the 25mcg of cytomel. I did seven days of 12.5 at 6 a.m,

then another half pill at 6:00 pm. Posted here, and was recommended to titrate

up to an addition 1/4 of a pill...so did that last Friday. Began losing a ton

of hair again, (think ten to 12 coming out each time I run my hand through...)

but have hung in there at that dose since last friday. Got my saliva test

results and was recommended to start HC creme, 10mg. So have been doing that

two days ago. Also began monitoring temps, 'though I really don't know how to

USE that information. Hair loss continuing and really annoying and sad. My

temps are averaging 97.5 for the last couple days anyway.

> > I'm wondering now with the hair loss, did I have what I am reading about 'a

thyroid dump " and that's why the massive shed? Or am I just not on enough t3??

> > I'm getting my estriol/free testosterone/progesterone tested next week, and

maybe that'll help me know some things...

> > Till then, how often should I be adding cytomel, and can I expect this

darned hair stuff to END some day? (----and by end, I do not mean " and now she

is bald " ergo..no worries about more loss.)

> > I have no idea how to does the HC creme, or how much in spite of looking at

all posted here...so am winging it. I just want to SLEEP, can't take melatonin,

DID buy some phosphotidyle whatchamacallit. AM taking about 120mg of iron and

the magnesium.

> >

> > Any help on knowing when/how much to dose the cytomel for a newbie whose

whole life have become about reading these message boards? I feel like all I do

now is take temps, take pills, monitor my high BP and stare at my bedroom

ceiling at three a.m., while also yanking tufts of my long hair out of the

drain. It used to be there was FAR more cat hair than kelly hair on my wood

floors...not so much any longer. Argh.

> >

> > Kel

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Ruth,

Isn't it HORRID???? I mean, really, really HORRID? I used to not get sick at

all. Can't stand being on a clock for medicines, and would hardly ever even

take an ibuprofen. Now all heck has broken loose and I'm feeling like a driven,

obsessive compulsive, but gosh darn it, I will not be a 45 year old, single,

school teacher who collects cats and is BALD! AGH! It just cannot happen!!!!

No, I have never been on the pig! (strange mental image, that) In fact, I never

even considered my hair loss, weird menstrual things, and lack of sleep could be

thyroid related. It's a long arduous story about how I got the truth finally,

so I'll spare ya. So, I've never been on any thryoid medicine until this last

three weeks. It's been weird. I feel it's made my hair loss worse, this week

anyway....but I think that it's largely owing to my not knowing what I'm doing.

These forums have been a blessing, and a curse. I find myself reading them to

look for anyone with similar numbers or stories. If it weren't for these web

sites and the insights of the wonderful moderators, I'd still be sitting in my

primary care doctor's office with her telling me it was all in my head, and that

she could either A. rip out my uterus, or B. put me on anti-depressants, oh and

she also threw in the neat-0 thing of being able to do both and how much my life

would improve. HA! If I'd listened to that witch I'd be a miserable wreck. At

least I feel, while my hair is still vanishing and looks awful, that I might be

on the right track. I just have to hang in.... There are a lot of us out

there.

Val didn't even really think I had a major thyroid problem, and might not have

to be on the t3 stuff for very long, and could possibly treat the hair stuff

with the t3 and iron. I was hoping for a miracle, as I do have a reverse ration

of like 8 or something....ergh.

I'm so sorry about the cancer. I can't imagine actually going through that, the

loss. You must have tremendous resiliency and certainly DO NOT deserve now to

be coping with thyroid garbage.

I can't take the melatonin. I get bad migraines anyway, and the melatonin seems

to trigger something where I get a major headache every time I try. So far,

the Phosphawhatsis has done nothing for me. I'm two steps away from calling an

'alterna-pharamacy' here in California for some 'alerntative' medicine in the

way of an herbal formula...if you understand my drift. I'm THAT desperate for

some sleep!!!! My luck, it'd probably cause MORE HAIR LOSS!!!!

Sheesh.

Say hi to your own Kel! It's a good name.

K

>

> Oh Kel,

> You made me laugh (and I know none of what you are going through is at all

> funny), but I read your post last night and seriously you had me laughing

> because I feel like I am doing the same thing!!(Taking pills, reading  " group

> mail " , watching the clock tick by way after midnight.  Plus I have a daughter

> named and I call her Kel also. I am wondering why you can not take

> melatonin. I was advised to take melatonin, but I have stayed away from it not

> knowing if it would be a safe thing for me to do with a Hx of breast Ca. (Oh

> yeah like my Ativan is so clean and safe)  I tried the phosphy stuff too. Had

to

> go back to the Ativan. I am reading what people post as I am considering going

> on the Cytomel. But gosh G Whiz. I lost enough hair when I went through chemo

> and sure dont want to go through that again. I am curious to know if you were

on

> the pig before you went on the cytomel and how much of the pig, (porcine) were

> you taking? I had a terrible time with Armour last year. Got really sick on

it.

> Let me know how long you have been doing the cytomel. And hang in there. Ruth

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: K

> To: RT3_T3

> Sent: Fri, September 3, 2010 9:58:51 PM

> Subject: Not sure when/how much to titrate up.

>

>  

> Hey,

>

> I've been taking the 25mcg of cytomel. I did seven days of 12.5 at 6 a.m, then

> another half pill at 6:00 pm. Posted here, and was recommended to titrate up

to

> an addition 1/4 of a pill...so did that last Friday. Began losing a ton of

hair

> again, (think ten to 12 coming out each time I run my hand through...) but

have

> hung in there at that dose since last friday. Got my saliva test results and

was

> recommended to start HC creme, 10mg. So have been doing that two days ago.

Also

> began monitoring temps, 'though I really don't know how to USE that

information.

> Hair loss continuing and really annoying and sad. My temps are averaging 97.5

> for the last couple days anyway.

> I'm wondering now with the hair loss, did I have what I am reading about 'a

> thyroid dump " and that's why the massive shed? Or am I just not on enough t3??

> I'm getting my estriol/free testosterone/progesterone tested next week, and

> maybe that'll help me know some things...

> Till then, how often should I be adding cytomel, and can I expect this darned

> hair stuff to END some day? (----and by end, I do not mean " and now she is

bald "

> ergo..no worries about more loss.)

> I have no idea how to does the HC creme, or how much in spite of looking at

all

> posted here...so am winging it. I just want to SLEEP, can't take melatonin,

DID

> buy some phosphotidyle whatchamacallit. AM taking about 120mg of iron and the

> magnesium.

>

> Any help on knowing when/how much to dose the cytomel for a newbie whose whole

> life have become about reading these message boards? I feel like all I do now

is

> take temps, take pills, monitor my high BP and stare at my bedroom ceiling at

> three a.m., while also yanking tufts of my long hair out of the drain. It used

> to be there was FAR more cat hair than kelly hair on my wood floors...not so

> much any longer. Argh.

>

> Kel

>

[Guest guest]

You need to graph your temps following the directions here:

http://nthadrenalsweb.org/tracking-your-treatment.php

ONce temps are stable ( .02 degrees temp differnce form one daily

average to the next) thne you can raise T3 every 3-5 days. But we try to

be about 75mcg at the 6-8 week point.

http://www.nthadrenalsweb.com

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

http://artisticgrooming.net/

> Thank you Val,

> I will post the saliva results on Adrenals to find out about the HC dosing,

but my real question here was knowing when/how to add the cytomel doses. I've

been on the same dose 12.5, 12.5, and 6.24 mcg for about ten days. I just don't

know what I should be looking for to know when it's time to increase...is it

just a gut feeling or is there some formula. Today, when I took my noon dose, I

immediately felt all cold (something I've never felt before) and then a little

jittery for about an hour. I just now took my six pm. of the 6.25 (1/4 of a

pill...) and will see how it goes tonight. I have no idea how fast to crank it

up, when I had my tests run they were t3 2.4, rt3 296, so I know I've got

issues.

> So how do you know? Is it just every five days? Is the hair loss owing to

holding at one dose too long? I've only been Rxd a 30 days supply of the

cytomel, and am worried my doc. won't re-prescribe if I crank it all gone in

less than a month, you know?

> I'm also concerned, because for the last couple nights, in addition to waking

up at my normal 2 a.m., I've had the giant headache and some nausea going on.

It makes me wonder if I need another hit of the cytomel before I go to sleep at

night, and that it's too long of a space between pills to go from 6 pm to 6 am

when I re-dose.

>

> Thoughts?

>

> Kel

>

>

>>> Hey,

>>>

>>> I've been taking the 25mcg of cytomel. I did seven days of 12.5 at 6 a.m,

then another half pill at 6:00 pm. Posted here, and was recommended to titrate

up to an addition 1/4 of a pill...so did that last Friday. Began losing a ton

of hair again, (think ten to 12 coming out each time I run my hand through...)

but have hung in there at that dose since last friday. Got my saliva test

results and was recommended to start HC creme, 10mg. So have been doing that

two days ago. Also began monitoring temps, 'though I really don't know how to

USE that information. Hair loss continuing and really annoying and sad. My

temps are averaging 97.5 for the last couple days anyway.

>>> I'm wondering now with the hair loss, did I have what I am reading about 'a

thyroid dump " and that's why the massive shed? Or am I just not on enough t3??

>>> I'm getting my estriol/free testosterone/progesterone tested next week, and

maybe that'll help me know some things...

>>> Till then, how often should I be adding cytomel, and can I expect this

darned hair stuff to END some day? (----and by end, I do not mean " and now she

is bald " ergo..no worries about more loss.)

>>> I have no idea how to does the HC creme, or how much in spite of looking at

all posted here...so am winging it. I just want to SLEEP, can't take melatonin,

DID buy some phosphotidyle whatchamacallit. AM taking about 120mg of iron and

the magnesium.

>>>

>>> Any help on knowing when/how much to dose the cytomel for a newbie whose

whole life have become about reading these message boards? I feel like all I do

now is take temps, take pills, monitor my high BP and stare at my bedroom

ceiling at three a.m., while also yanking tufts of my long hair out of the

drain. It used to be there was FAR more cat hair than kelly hair on my wood

floors...not so much any longer. Argh.

>>>

>>> Kel

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> ------------------------------------

>>>

>>> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our

experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.

[Guest guest]

Thank you Val. I'll do that and see how it goes. I had thought cruising around

at 10 days at a shot was way too long...and seems it is. I've started the temp

graphing this Friday, so will look for that variation, or lack of. And will

hit the adrenal group for more info.

Ive got another dumb question. I'm cutting the cytomel down with a pill cutter

I picked up at Walgreens, but it seems to just pulverize them, and then I'm

scraping little bits of dust together to get to the 1/2 a pill. Do you folks

use something sexier to get them to not disintegrate under the blade of the

cutter?

Thanks,

Kel

> >>> Hey,

> >>>

> >>> I've been taking the 25mcg of cytomel. I did seven days of 12.5 at 6 a.m,

then another half pill at 6:00 pm. Posted here, and was recommended to titrate

up to an addition 1/4 of a pill...so did that last Friday. Began losing a ton

of hair again, (think ten to 12 coming out each time I run my hand through...)

but have hung in there at that dose since last friday. Got my saliva test

results and was recommended to start HC creme, 10mg. So have been doing that

two days ago. Also began monitoring temps, 'though I really don't know how to

USE that information. Hair loss continuing and really annoying and sad. My

temps are averaging 97.5 for the last couple days anyway.

> >>> I'm wondering now with the hair loss, did I have what I am reading about

'a thyroid dump " and that's why the massive shed? Or am I just not on enough

t3??

> >>> I'm getting my estriol/free testosterone/progesterone tested next week,

and maybe that'll help me know some things...

> >>> Till then, how often should I be adding cytomel, and can I expect this

darned hair stuff to END some day? (----and by end, I do not mean " and now she

is bald " ergo..no worries about more loss.)

> >>> I have no idea how to does the HC creme, or how much in spite of looking

at all posted here...so am winging it. I just want to SLEEP, can't take

melatonin, DID buy some phosphotidyle whatchamacallit. AM taking about 120mg of

iron and the magnesium.

> >>>

> >>> Any help on knowing when/how much to dose the cytomel for a newbie whose

whole life have become about reading these message boards? I feel like all I do

now is take temps, take pills, monitor my high BP and stare at my bedroom

ceiling at three a.m., while also yanking tufts of my long hair out of the

drain. It used to be there was FAR more cat hair than kelly hair on my wood

floors...not so much any longer. Argh.

> >>>

> >>> Kel

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> ------------------------------------

> >>>

> >>> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our

experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.

[Guest guest]

I use my own sexy fingers! LOL

http://www.nthadrenalsweb.org/

http://www.health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://www.faqhelp.webs.com/

http://www.health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

> Thank you Val. I'll do that and see how it goes. I had thought cruising

around at 10 days at a shot was way too long...and seems it is. I've started

the temp graphing this Friday, so will look for that variation, or lack of.

And will hit the adrenal group for more info.

>

> Ive got another dumb question. I'm cutting the cytomel down with a pill

cutter I picked up at Walgreens, but it seems to just pulverize them, and then

I'm scraping little bits of dust together to get to the 1/2 a pill. Do you

folks use something sexier to get them to not disintegrate under the blade of

the cutter?

>

> Thanks,

> Kel

>

>

>>>>

>>>>> Hey,

>>>>>

>>>>> I've been taking the 25mcg of cytomel. I did seven days of 12.5 at 6 a.m,

then another half pill at 6:00 pm. Posted here, and was recommended to titrate

up to an addition 1/4 of a pill...so did that last Friday. Began losing a ton

of hair again, (think ten to 12 coming out each time I run my hand through...)

but have hung in there at that dose since last friday. Got my saliva test

results and was recommended to start HC creme, 10mg. So have been doing that

two days ago. Also began monitoring temps, 'though I really don't know how to

USE that information. Hair loss continuing and really annoying and sad. My

temps are averaging 97.5 for the last couple days anyway.

>>>>> I'm wondering now with the hair loss, did I have what I am reading about

'a thyroid dump " and that's why the massive shed? Or am I just not on enough

t3??

>>>>> I'm getting my estriol/free testosterone/progesterone tested next week,

and maybe that'll help me know some things...

>>>>> Till then, how often should I be adding cytomel, and can I expect this

darned hair stuff to END some day? (----and by end, I do not mean " and now she

is bald " ergo..no worries about more loss.)

>>>>> I have no idea how to does the HC creme, or how much in spite of looking

at all posted here...so am winging it. I just want to SLEEP, can't take

melatonin, DID buy some phosphotidyle whatchamacallit. AM taking about 120mg of

iron and the magnesium.

>>>>>

>>>>> Any help on knowing when/how much to dose the cytomel for a newbie whose

whole life have become about reading these message boards? I feel like all I do

now is take temps, take pills, monitor my high BP and stare at my bedroom

ceiling at three a.m., while also yanking tufts of my long hair out of the

drain. It used to be there was FAR more cat hair than kelly hair on my wood

floors...not so much any longer. Argh.

>>>>>

>>>>> Kel

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> ------------------------------------

>>>>>

>>>>> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our

experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.

[Guest guest]

LOL!

I had to " perfect " using those dang pill cutters. And I had to get a differnt

one as the first Cutter I bought didn't work well at all for these tiny pills.

It took some effort, but I found you can't just push the thing down hard on the

pill, more like sort of tap it gently and then the pill breaks in half nicely

without pulverizing or going crooked.

I have this problem mostly with the HC as it tends to crumble. The

cynomel is easier.

I have tried Val's sexy fingers method, too, but I don't get an even pieces.

THis is okay if you're using both pieces the same day as it will all work out in

the end, but I often have a piece left over for the next day, so I need them as

precise as possible!

Kathleen

> >>>>

> >>>>> Hey,

> >>>>>

> >>>>> I've been taking the 25mcg of cytomel. I did seven days of 12.5 at 6

a.m, then another half pill at 6:00 pm. Posted here, and was recommended to

titrate up to an addition 1/4 of a pill...so did that last Friday. Began losing

a ton of hair again, (think ten to 12 coming out each time I run my hand

through...) but have hung in there at that dose since last friday. Got my

saliva test results and was recommended to start HC creme, 10mg. So have been

doing that two days ago. Also began monitoring temps, 'though I really don't

know how to USE that information. Hair loss continuing and really annoying and

sad. My temps are averaging 97.5 for the last couple days anyway.

> >>>>> I'm wondering now with the hair loss, did I have what I am reading about

'a thyroid dump " and that's why the massive shed? Or am I just not on enough

t3??

> >>>>> I'm getting my estriol/free testosterone/progesterone tested next week,

and maybe that'll help me know some things...

> >>>>> Till then, how often should I be adding cytomel, and can I expect this

darned hair stuff to END some day? (----and by end, I do not mean " and now she

is bald " ergo..no worries about more loss.)

> >>>>> I have no idea how to does the HC creme, or how much in spite of looking

at all posted here...so am winging it. I just want to SLEEP, can't take

melatonin, DID buy some phosphotidyle whatchamacallit. AM taking about 120mg of

iron and the magnesium.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Any help on knowing when/how much to dose the cytomel for a newbie whose

whole life have become about reading these message boards? I feel like all I do

now is take temps, take pills, monitor my high BP and stare at my bedroom

ceiling at three a.m., while also yanking tufts of my long hair out of the

drain. It used to be there was FAR more cat hair than kelly hair on my wood

floors...not so much any longer. Argh.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Kel

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>> ------------------------------------

> >>>>>

> >>>>> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our

experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.

[Guest guest]

Ohhhhh....I seeeeee.... I tried that, and I guess my fingers need some kind

of makeover on the sexiness part. I wonder if Oprah does this sort of thing?

" Today on Oprah, are your fingers sexy enough for cytomel? Watch and learn! "

I just got a big mess. Maybe it's time to hit the garage for my X-acto knives!

Kel

> >>>>

> >>>>> Hey,

> >>>>>

> >>>>> I've been taking the 25mcg of cytomel. I did seven days of 12.5 at 6

a.m, then another half pill at 6:00 pm. Posted here, and was recommended to

titrate up to an addition 1/4 of a pill...so did that last Friday. Began losing

a ton of hair again, (think ten to 12 coming out each time I run my hand

through...) but have hung in there at that dose since last friday. Got my

saliva test results and was recommended to start HC creme, 10mg. So have been

doing that two days ago. Also began monitoring temps, 'though I really don't

know how to USE that information. Hair loss continuing and really annoying and

sad. My temps are averaging 97.5 for the last couple days anyway.

> >>>>> I'm wondering now with the hair loss, did I have what I am reading about

'a thyroid dump " and that's why the massive shed? Or am I just not on enough

t3??

> >>>>> I'm getting my estriol/free testosterone/progesterone tested next week,

and maybe that'll help me know some things...

> >>>>> Till then, how often should I be adding cytomel, and can I expect this

darned hair stuff to END some day? (----and by end, I do not mean " and now she

is bald " ergo..no worries about more loss.)

> >>>>> I have no idea how to does the HC creme, or how much in spite of looking

at all posted here...so am winging it. I just want to SLEEP, can't take

melatonin, DID buy some phosphotidyle whatchamacallit. AM taking about 120mg of

iron and the magnesium.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Any help on knowing when/how much to dose the cytomel for a newbie whose

whole life have become about reading these message boards? I feel like all I do

now is take temps, take pills, monitor my high BP and stare at my bedroom

ceiling at three a.m., while also yanking tufts of my long hair out of the

drain. It used to be there was FAR more cat hair than kelly hair on my wood

floors...not so much any longer. Argh.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Kel

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>> ------------------------------------

> >>>>>

> >>>>> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our

experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.

[Guest guest]

Ha! I tried the fingers, but am clearly not coordinated enough. It felt

like pilling the cat...you know? Split one pill in half, retrieve other half of

pill from floor, split pill in half again, retrieve pill from sink, and

reconstitute pile of dust... place dust in mouth, remove piece of hair that dust

brought with it from sink....ergh.....etc.....etc...

Maybe I need to just look into a cutter with less of a severe V shape at the

end. Hm....

:-)

K

> > >>>>

> > >>>>> Hey,

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>> I've been taking the 25mcg of cytomel. I did seven days of 12.5 at 6

a.m, then another half pill at 6:00 pm. Posted here, and was recommended to

titrate up to an addition 1/4 of a pill...so did that last Friday. Began losing

a ton of hair again, (think ten to 12 coming out each time I run my hand

through...) but have hung in there at that dose since last friday. Got my

saliva test results and was recommended to start HC creme, 10mg. So have been

doing that two days ago. Also began monitoring temps, 'though I really don't

know how to USE that information. Hair loss continuing and really annoying and

sad. My temps are averaging 97.5 for the last couple days anyway.

> > >>>>> I'm wondering now with the hair loss, did I have what I am reading

about 'a thyroid dump " and that's why the massive shed? Or am I just not on

enough t3??

> > >>>>> I'm getting my estriol/free testosterone/progesterone tested next

week, and maybe that'll help me know some things...

> > >>>>> Till then, how often should I be adding cytomel, and can I expect this

darned hair stuff to END some day? (----and by end, I do not mean " and now she

is bald " ergo..no worries about more loss.)

> > >>>>> I have no idea how to does the HC creme, or how much in spite of

looking at all posted here...so am winging it. I just want to SLEEP, can't take

melatonin, DID buy some phosphotidyle whatchamacallit. AM taking about 120mg of

iron and the magnesium.

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>> Any help on knowing when/how much to dose the cytomel for a newbie

whose whole life have become about reading these message boards? I feel like

all I do now is take temps, take pills, monitor my high BP and stare at my

bedroom ceiling at three a.m., while also yanking tufts of my long hair out of

the drain. It used to be there was FAR more cat hair than kelly hair on my wood

floors...not so much any longer. Argh.

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>> Kel

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>> ------------------------------------

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our

experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.

[Guest guest]

I take generic Cytomel (liothyronine) . The drugstore has given me two different brands, and there is a bit difference. The one that melts and breakes easily is Mylan and the one that is hard as a rock is Paddock. I feel much better on the Mylan than the Paddock, which reminds me of the new Armour in its makeup.

<>Roni

Immortality exists!

It's called knowledge!

Just because something isn't seen

doesn't mean it's not there<>

Subject: Re: Not sure when/how much to titrate up.To: RT3_T3 Date: Sunday, September 5, 2010, 10:02 AM

Thank you Val. I'll do that and see how it goes. I had thought cruising around at 10 days at a shot was way too long...and seems it is. I've started the temp graphing this Friday, so will look for that variation, or lack of. And will hit the adrenal group for more info.Ive got another dumb question. I'm cutting the cytomel down with a pill cutter I picked up at Walgreens, but it seems to just pulverize them, and then I'm scraping little bits of dust together to get to the 1/2 a pill. Do you folks use something sexier to get them to not disintegrate under the blade of the cutter?Thanks,Kel> >>> Hey,> >>>> >>> I've been taking the 25mcg of cytomel. I did seven days of 12.5 at 6 a.m, then

another half pill at 6:00 pm. Posted here, and was recommended to titrate up to an addition 1/4 of a pill...so did that last Friday. Began losing a ton of hair again, (think ten to 12 coming out each time I run my hand through...) but have hung in there at that dose since last friday. Got my saliva test results and was recommended to start HC creme, 10mg. So have been doing that two days ago. Also began monitoring temps, 'though I really don't know how to USE that information. Hair loss continuing and really annoying and sad. My temps are averaging 97.5 for the last couple days anyway.> >>> I'm wondering now with the hair loss, did I have what I am reading about 'a thyroid dump" and that's why the massive shed? Or am I just not on enough t3??> >>> I'm getting my estriol/free testosterone/progesterone tested next week, and maybe that'll help me know some

things...> >>> Till then, how often should I be adding cytomel, and can I expect this darned hair stuff to END some day? (----and by end, I do not mean "and now she is bald" ergo..no worries about more loss.)> >>> I have no idea how to does the HC creme, or how much in spite of looking at all posted here...so am winging it. I just want to SLEEP, can't take melatonin, DID buy some phosphotidyle whatchamacallit. AM taking about 120mg of iron and the magnesium.> >>>> >>> Any help on knowing when/how much to dose the cytomel for a newbie whose whole life have become about reading these message boards? I feel like all I do now is take temps, take pills, monitor my high BP and stare at my bedroom ceiling at three a.m., while also yanking tufts of my long hair out of the drain. It used to be there was FAR more cat hair than kelly hair on my wood floors...not so

much any longer. Argh.> >>>> >>> Kel> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> ------------------------------------> >>>> >>> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.

[Guest guest]

Even I am using the sexy fingers method! Hehe.I always prat before the Thyrod tab snaps! I often Get a 40/60 split but I can't find a pill cutter that does a better job! :pSendt fra min iPhoneDen 5. sep. 2010 kl. 20.02 skrev "keickholt13" :

LOL!

I had to "perfect" using those dang pill cutters. And I had to get a differnt one as the first Cutter I bought didn't work well at all for these tiny pills. It took some effort, but I found you can't just push the thing down hard on the pill, more like sort of tap it gently and then the pill breaks in half nicely without pulverizing or going crooked.

I have this problem mostly with the HC as it tends to crumble. The cynomel is easier.

I have tried Val's sexy fingers method, too, but I don't get an even pieces. THis is okay if you're using both pieces the same day as it will all work out in the end, but I often have a piece left over for the next day, so I need them as precise as possible!

Kathleen

> >>>>

> >>>>> Hey,

> >>>>>

> >>>>> I've been taking the 25mcg of cytomel. I did seven days of 12.5 at 6 a.m, then another half pill at 6:00 pm. Posted here, and was recommended to titrate up to an addition 1/4 of a pill...so did that last Friday. Began losing a ton of hair again, (think ten to 12 coming out each time I run my hand through...) but have hung in there at that dose since last friday. Got my saliva test results and was recommended to start HC creme, 10mg. So have been doing that two days ago. Also began monitoring temps, 'though I really don't know how to USE that information. Hair loss continuing and really annoying and sad. My temps are averaging 97.5 for the last couple days anyway.

> >>>>> I'm wondering now with the hair loss, did I have what I am reading about 'a thyroid dump" and that's why the massive shed? Or am I just not on enough t3??

> >>>>> I'm getting my estriol/free testosterone/progesterone tested next week, and maybe that'll help me know some things...

> >>>>> Till then, how often should I be adding cytomel, and can I expect this darned hair stuff to END some day? (----and by end, I do not mean "and now she is bald" ergo..no worries about more loss.)

> >>>>> I have no idea how to does the HC creme, or how much in spite of looking at all posted here...so am winging it. I just want to SLEEP, can't take melatonin, DID buy some phosphotidyle whatchamacallit. AM taking about 120mg of iron and the magnesium.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Any help on knowing when/how much to dose the cytomel for a newbie whose whole life have become about reading these message boards? I feel like all I do now is take temps, take pills, monitor my high BP and stare at my bedroom ceiling at three a.m., while also yanking tufts of my long hair out of the drain. It used to be there was FAR more cat hair than kelly hair on my wood floors...not so much any longer. Argh.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Kel

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>> ------------------------------------

> >>>>>

> >>>>> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.

[Guest guest]

Try putting the pill in your mouth and wetting it a bit. It holds together better in the pill cutter and you don't have to hit it hard just a bit of pressure works better. Good luck.

<>Roni

Immortality exists!

It's called knowledge!

Just because something isn't seen

doesn't mean it's not there<>

Subject: Re: Re: Not sure when/how much to titrate up.To: "RT3_T3 " <RT3_T3 >Date: Sunday, September 5, 2010, 2:43 PM

Even I am using the sexy fingers method! Hehe.

I always prat before the Thyrod tab snaps! I often Get a 40/60 split but I can't find a pill cutter that does a better job! :pSendt fra min iPhone

Den 5. sep. 2010 kl. 20.02 skrev "keickholt13" :

LOL!I had to "perfect" using those dang pill cutters. And I had to get a differnt one as the first Cutter I bought didn't work well at all for these tiny pills. It took some effort, but I found you can't just push the thing down hard on the pill, more like sort of tap it gently and then the pill breaks in half nicely without pulverizing or going crooked.I have this problem mostly with the HC as it tends to crumble. The cynomel is easier.I have tried Val's sexy fingers method, too, but I don't get an even pieces. THis is okay if you're using both pieces the same day as it will all work out in the end, but I often have a piece left over for the next day, so I need them as precise as possible!Kathleen> >>>> > >>>>> Hey,> >>>>>> >>>>> I've been taking the 25mcg of cytomel. I did seven days of 12.5 at 6 a.m, then another half pill at 6:00 pm. Posted here, and was recommended to titrate up to an addition 1/4 of a pill...so did that last Friday. Began losing a ton of hair again, (think ten to 12 coming out each time I run my hand through...) but have hung in there at that dose since last friday. Got my saliva test results and was recommended to start HC creme, 10mg. So have been doing that two days ago. Also began monitoring temps, 'though I really don't know how to USE that

information. Hair loss continuing and really annoying and sad. My temps are averaging 97.5 for the last couple days anyway.> >>>>> I'm wondering now with the hair loss, did I have what I am reading about 'a thyroid dump" and that's why the massive shed? Or am I just not on enough t3??> >>>>> I'm getting my estriol/free testosterone/progesterone tested next week, and maybe that'll help me know some things...> >>>>> Till then, how often should I be adding cytomel, and can I expect this darned hair stuff to END some day? (----and by end, I do not mean "and now she is bald" ergo..no worries about more loss.)> >>>>> I have no idea how to does the HC creme, or how much in spite of looking at all posted here...so am winging it. I just want to SLEEP, can't take melatonin, DID buy some phosphotidyle whatchamacallit. AM taking about 120mg of iron and the magnesium.>

>>>>>> >>>>> Any help on knowing when/how much to dose the cytomel for a newbie whose whole life have become about reading these message boards? I feel like all I do now is take temps, take pills, monitor my high BP and stare at my bedroom ceiling at three a.m., while also yanking tufts of my long hair out of the drain. It used to be there was FAR more cat hair than kelly hair on my wood floors...not so much any longer. Argh.> >>>>>> >>>>> Kel> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------> >>>>>> >>>>> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.