Re: Lethal Lee - question about iron numbers

[Guest guest]

>

>This was the last test that had all numbers done at once. Newer tests only had

ferritin which is still low but slowly increasing.

As far as I can see low ferritin is always a problem but high ferritin

may still have a problem if it's caused by inflammation, the

saturation will show low then with a 35% target for being OK

Nick

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[Guest guest]

Hi Nick,

So do I need to worry about having low ability to absorb the iron I am taking?

On the thread with and Lee, 's ferritin was lowish - 40's I think -

and her other numbers were low as well indicating that even if she took iron she

wouldn't be able to absorb it well?

Thanks for your help,

>

> >

> >This was the last test that had all numbers done at once. Newer tests only

had ferritin which is still low but slowly increasing.

>

> As far as I can see low ferritin is always a problem but high ferritin

> may still have a problem if it's caused by inflammation, the

> saturation will show low then with a 35% target for being OK

>

> Nick

>

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>

> for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

>

> www.thyroid-rt3.com

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

There is nothing in those Labs that say you can't absorb more Iron.

If TIBC, UIBC,Transferrin are deficient/low in range OR if Saturation is high

then you have issues.

Of course for these to be accurate you MUST follow correct testing protocols as

follows....

Iron Panel & Ferritin

a) test early am fasting

NO meds or supps until AFTER blood taken (except HC if needed)

c) NO Iron supps for minimum 5 days (some sources say 7 days)

d) some sources also say NO Vit C supps for minimum 5 days (some say 7 days even

better) as well

e) some sources also say no B12 supps for 5-7 days as well

f) NO high Iron foods or drinks for at least 3 days (5 days is even better)

If able is good to also test CBC with differential & ESR at same time.

Of course the tests you had in April (~4 months ago) don't tell you if you are

able to safely absorb Iron NOW.

By SAFELY I mean you have sufficient Transferrin available to safely BIND Iron

(that is what Ferritin is). It is FREE or unbound Iron that is dangerous. Causes

free radicals, feeds infections, feeds Candida, fuels Cancer & can deposit into

organs, glands & bones.

Lethal Lee

>

> Hi,

>

> I saw your thread with and you talked about when iron numbers (tibc,

transferrin saturation, etc.) are too low that someone can't absorb enough iron.

>

> I am on a campaign to increase ferritin numbers and taking 300mg/day of iron

for this past month. My numbers in april were:

>

> iron: 73 (40-175)

> tibc: 325 (250-450)

> transferrin saturation 22 (15-50%)

> ferritin 32 10-232

>

> This was the last test that had all numbers done at once. Newer tests only

had ferritin which is still low but slowly increasing.

>

> I feel better for increasing the iron and starting the magnesium oil, but when

I read the post about not being able to absorb the iron I wondered what you

meant and how I would increase my levels if absorption levels are low. Does

this mean all the extra iron I am taking is floating around and not getting

absorbed?

>

> Thanks so much,

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Lee,

I'm reading this and just not understanding... I'm taking 85 mg hemaplex iron

right now, with 2000 mg ester c. I just started on 170 mg hemaplex last night.

Does this mean with my iron labs I cannot take this? How do I deal with having

low iron then???

That twitching thing I was posting with you about has gotten just awful by the

way. It's now spread to my whole body It feels like mini seizures, I can't

explain it. plus my arms hurt really bad and i have terrible anxiety.

can this be caused by going up on t3 too much too fast? I went from taking

about 20 - 25 mcg total in a day, to a few days ago up to about 45 mcg a day.

(12.5 3x a day, then last dose about 8 mcg)

I'm losing it over here

thanks for all the help.

oh ps- i'm getting that magnesium oil today thank you.

>

> Hi ,

>

> There is nothing in those Labs that say you can't absorb more Iron.

> If TIBC, UIBC,Transferrin are deficient/low in range OR if Saturation is high

then you have issues.

>

> Of course for these to be accurate you MUST follow correct testing protocols

as follows....

>

> Iron Panel & Ferritin

> a) test early am fasting

> NO meds or supps until AFTER blood taken (except HC if needed)

> c) NO Iron supps for minimum 5 days (some sources say 7 days)

> d) some sources also say NO Vit C supps for minimum 5 days (some say 7 days

even better) as well

> e) some sources also say no B12 supps for 5-7 days as well

> f) NO high Iron foods or drinks for at least 3 days (5 days is even better)

>

> If able is good to also test CBC with differential & ESR at same time.

>

> Of course the tests you had in April (~4 months ago) don't tell you if you are

able to safely absorb Iron NOW.

>

> By SAFELY I mean you have sufficient Transferrin available to safely BIND Iron

(that is what Ferritin is). It is FREE or unbound Iron that is dangerous. Causes

free radicals, feeds infections, feeds Candida, fuels Cancer & can deposit into

organs, glands & bones.

>

> Lethal Lee

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Lee! I should be getting new labs in a couple of weeks and I will stay

off the iron, etc. for 5 days prior. In the past i was only off for a day or

two

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > I saw your thread with and you talked about when iron numbers (tibc,

transferrin saturation, etc.) are too low that someone can't absorb enough iron.

> >

> > I am on a campaign to increase ferritin numbers and taking 300mg/day of iron

for this past month. My numbers in april were:

> >

> > iron: 73 (40-175)

> > tibc: 325 (250-450)

> > transferrin saturation 22 (15-50%)

> > ferritin 32 10-232

> >

> > This was the last test that had all numbers done at once. Newer tests only

had ferritin which is still low but slowly increasing.

> >

> > I feel better for increasing the iron and starting the magnesium oil, but

when I read the post about not being able to absorb the iron I wondered what you

meant and how I would increase my levels if absorption levels are low. Does

this mean all the extra iron I am taking is floating around and not getting

absorbed?

> >

> > Thanks so much,

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

This is the first i've eard that you shouldn't take B12 5-7 days before doing

an iron panel.

I recently did a bunch of labs, including an iron panel & posted here to make

sure I did all the prep work right. I can't afford to retake the tests.

How will B12 effect iron blood tests?

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > I saw your thread with and you talked about when iron numbers (tibc,

transferrin saturation, etc.) are too low that someone can't absorb enough iron.

> >

> > I am on a campaign to increase ferritin numbers and taking 300mg/day of iron

for this past month. My numbers in april were:

> >

> > iron: 73 (40-175)

> > tibc: 325 (250-450)

> > transferrin saturation 22 (15-50%)

> > ferritin 32 10-232

> >

> > This was the last test that had all numbers done at once. Newer tests only

had ferritin which is still low but slowly increasing.

> >

> > I feel better for increasing the iron and starting the magnesium oil, but

when I read the post about not being able to absorb the iron I wondered what you

meant and how I would increase my levels if absorption levels are low. Does

this mean all the extra iron I am taking is floating around and not getting

absorbed?

> >

> > Thanks so much,

> >

> >

> >

>