Re: a little freaked....need reassurance

[Guest guest]

I would also like reassurance. I am post menopausal and probably have low estradoil. I haven't noticed different heart rhythm but I have had chest tightness on occasions. I do not have high blood pressure but for split seconds I will have a feeling of anxiety that will last for only seconds at a time. I have been on T3 only for over a year. Any reassurance you can give Val will be greatly appreciated!VeniziaSubject: a little freaked....need reassuranceTo: RT3_T3 Date: Monday, August 9, 2010, 7:22 PM

I was reading a book by Lee Vliet on hormones called "It's my Ovaries, Stupid" and she freaked me out a little about going up on my t3. I have RT3 and I have been on cytomel for about four weeks and have been following your protocol with no adverse effects.

In her book, vliets said that if you are low on estradiol and taking high does of T3, you can get "lethal heart rhythm disturbances, dangerously high blood pressure, severe anxiety and sudden death." Needless to say, I panicked. I believe my hormones are off, particularly my estradiol. My doctor has been running tests piecemeal and she has not done estradiol. I'm getting ready to leave on a three-week trip overseas and am reluctant to stop my T3 and want to continue increasing it so I can get rid of RT3, but now I'm nervous. Any thoughts? Ines

[Guest guest]

I'm not Val but I can tell you that my sex hormones were very low when last

tested and I am now starting week 16 of T3 only. I am a 56 year old female, post

menopausal and for the last three years I have had a dreadful irregular

heartbeat that would start mid morning and get worse until around 8 p.m. when I

would find myself coughing to stop the irregularity (which was at its worse

skipping a beat every 4th or 5th beat). During the first few weeks of T3 only it

got a little better but continued to be an issue. In the last few weeks I have

not experienced any irregularity (I hate to even say it). I have blamed

everything in the book for my irregularity including fermented food, caffeine,

etc. but now that I am finally getting close to the perfect dose of T3 (which I

am guessing will be 125 mcg)my heart is happy and I have had all the foods and

drinks I was blaming for the issue. Perhaps my hormones are better now that my

thyroid is more regulated but in any case my hormones being off did not create

any heart problems for me.

I remain amazed that my thyroid being off was causing me so many problems and am

just so grateful for Val, Nick and Margery as well as all the members for the

support that seems to come just when you need it.

Kris

>

>

[Guest guest]

KrisThank you so much for this. I guess I was also blaming a lot of my issues on the fact that I have a sulfite sensitivity. In fact, I have noticed the reactions I was having to SO much of what I ate and drank, in actuality, has gotten to be almost non exsistent since getting rid of Rt3 and taking cytomel only. I still have some issues with the heart although it is not skipped beats and not even a fast pulse so I am going to have to figure what IS causing this for me. I have been putting off going to my heart doctor but maybe that is in order.Thanks again for your input.Venizia--- On Tue, 8/10/10, kcpeterson55343 wrotFrom: kcpeterson55343

Subject: Re: a little freaked....need reassuranceTo: RT3_T3 Date: Tuesday, August 10, 2010, 3:05 PM

I'm not Val but I can tell you that my sex hormones were very low when last tested and I am now starting week 16 of T3 only. I am a 56 year old female, post menopausal and for the last three years I have had a dreadful irregular heartbeat that would start mid morning and get worse until around 8 p.m. when I would find myself coughing to stop the irregularity (which was at its worse skipping a beat every 4th or 5th beat). During the first few weeks of T3 only it got a little better but continued to be an issue. In the last few weeks I have not experienced any irregularity (I hate to even say it). I have blamed everything in the book for my irregularity including fermented food, caffeine, etc. but now that I am finally getting close to the perfect dose of T3 (which I am guessing will be 125 mcg)my heart is happy and I have had all the foods and drinks I was blaming for the issue. Perhaps my hormones are better now that my thyroid is more regulated but in

any case my hormones being off did not create any heart problems for me.

I remain amazed that my thyroid being off was causing me so many problems and am just so grateful for Val, Nick and Margery as well as all the members for the support that seems to come just when you need it.

Kris

>

>

[Guest guest]

KrisThank you so much for this. I guess I was also blaming a lot of my issues on the fact that I have a sulfite sensitivity. In fact, I have noticed the reactions I was having to SO much of what I ate and drank, in actuality, has gotten to be almost non exsistent since getting rid of Rt3 and taking cytomel only. I still have some issues with the heart although it is not skipped beats and not even a fast pulse so I am going to have to figure what IS causing this for me. I have been putting off going to my heart doctor but maybe that is in order.Thanks again for your input.Venizia--- On Tue, 8/10/10, kcpeterson55343 wrotFrom: kcpeterson55343

Subject: Re: a little freaked....need reassuranceTo: RT3_T3 Date: Tuesday, August 10, 2010, 3:05 PM

I'm not Val but I can tell you that my sex hormones were very low when last tested and I am now starting week 16 of T3 only. I am a 56 year old female, post menopausal and for the last three years I have had a dreadful irregular heartbeat that would start mid morning and get worse until around 8 p.m. when I would find myself coughing to stop the irregularity (which was at its worse skipping a beat every 4th or 5th beat). During the first few weeks of T3 only it got a little better but continued to be an issue. In the last few weeks I have not experienced any irregularity (I hate to even say it). I have blamed everything in the book for my irregularity including fermented food, caffeine, etc. but now that I am finally getting close to the perfect dose of T3 (which I am guessing will be 125 mcg)my heart is happy and I have had all the foods and drinks I was blaming for the issue. Perhaps my hormones are better now that my thyroid is more regulated but in

any case my hormones being off did not create any heart problems for me.

I remain amazed that my thyroid being off was causing me so many problems and am just so grateful for Val, Nick and Margery as well as all the members for the support that seems to come just when you need it.

Kris

>

>

[Guest guest]

KrisThank you so much for this. I guess I was also blaming a lot of my issues on the fact that I have a sulfite sensitivity. In fact, I have noticed the reactions I was having to SO much of what I ate and drank, in actuality, has gotten to be almost non exsistent since getting rid of Rt3 and taking cytomel only. I still have some issues with the heart although it is not skipped beats and not even a fast pulse so I am going to have to figure what IS causing this for me. I have been putting off going to my heart doctor but maybe that is in order.Thanks again for your input.Venizia--- On Tue, 8/10/10, kcpeterson55343 wrotFrom: kcpeterson55343

Subject: Re: a little freaked....need reassuranceTo: RT3_T3 Date: Tuesday, August 10, 2010, 3:05 PM

I'm not Val but I can tell you that my sex hormones were very low when last tested and I am now starting week 16 of T3 only. I am a 56 year old female, post menopausal and for the last three years I have had a dreadful irregular heartbeat that would start mid morning and get worse until around 8 p.m. when I would find myself coughing to stop the irregularity (which was at its worse skipping a beat every 4th or 5th beat). During the first few weeks of T3 only it got a little better but continued to be an issue. In the last few weeks I have not experienced any irregularity (I hate to even say it). I have blamed everything in the book for my irregularity including fermented food, caffeine, etc. but now that I am finally getting close to the perfect dose of T3 (which I am guessing will be 125 mcg)my heart is happy and I have had all the foods and drinks I was blaming for the issue. Perhaps my hormones are better now that my thyroid is more regulated but in

any case my hormones being off did not create any heart problems for me.

I remain amazed that my thyroid being off was causing me so many problems and am just so grateful for Val, Nick and Margery as well as all the members for the support that seems to come just when you need it.

Kris

>

>

[Guest guest]

I would also like some reassurance, if possible, since I just found out that I

have a gene mutation that puts me at a higher risk than some people for heart

problems. I am taking 125mcg of Cytomel and am in week 10 now. My heart tends

to pound when I walk up my own stairs, but I am not overweight and I'm not

extremely out of shape (and I'm only 31).

Also, my pulse was racing when I woke up this morning but my temp was only 96.6

(my lowest ever!) and an hour after taking my HC with salt water it was back to

normal and temp was fine the rest of the day. Not sure why that would happen or

why I would require salt water though, because I had my sodium tested lately and

it was fine. All electrolytes were.

Amy

[Guest guest]

Venezia, have you had estrogen tested recently? Irregular heatbeats

CAN be from lwo estrogne and when T3 is peaked as it must be for

uson T3 onyl it can raise SHBG which binds estrogen creatign lwo

FREE estradiol.

http://www.nthadrenalsweb.com http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

http://artisticgrooming.net/

Kris

Thank you so much for this.  I guess I was also blaming a

lot of my issues on the fact that I have a sulfite

sensitivity.  In fact, I have noticed the reactions I was

having to SO much of what I ate and drank, in actuality,

has gotten to be almost non exsistent since getting rid of

Rt3 and taking cytomel only.  I still have some issues

with the heart although it is not skipped beats and not

even a fast pulse so I am going to have to figure what IS

causing this for me.  I have been putting off going to my

heart doctor but maybe that is in order.

Thanks again for your input.

Venizia

--- On Tue, 8/10/10, kcpeterson55343

wrot

Subject: Re: a little freaked....need

reassurance

To: RT3_T3

Date: Tuesday, August 10, 2010, 3:05 PM

 

I'm not Val but I can tell you that my sex

hormones were very low when last tested and I am

now starting week 16 of T3 only. I am a 56 year

old female, post menopausal and for the last three

years I have had a dreadful irregular heartbeat

that would start mid morning and get worse until

around 8 p.m. when I would find myself coughing to

stop the irregularity (which was at its worse

skipping a beat every 4th or 5th beat). During the

first few weeks of T3 only it got a little better

but continued to be an issue. In the last few

weeks I have not experienced any irregularity (I

hate to even say it). I have blamed everything in

the book for my irregularity including fermented

food, caffeine, etc. but now that I am finally

getting close to the perfect dose of T3 (which I

am guessing will be 125 mcg)my heart is happy and

I have had all the foods and drinks I was blaming

for the issue. Perhaps my hormones are better now

that my thyroid is more regulated but in any case

my hormones being off did not create any heart

problems for me.

I remain amazed that my thyroid being off was

causing me so many problems and am just so

grateful for Val, Nick and Margery as well as all

the members for the support that seems to come

just when you need it.

Kris

>

>

[Guest guest]

Val,I just had labs done last week. I will have to check if those were done also. I tend to think not. Even if I am post menopausal, I need estradoil?? I do not want to take any hormones for menopause. I have been menopause since 2001. Would this still be an issue?Venizia

Kris

Thank you so much for this. I guess I was also blaming a

lot of my issues on the fact that I have a sulfite

sensitivity. In fact, I have noticed the reactions I was

having to SO much of what I ate and drank, in actuality,

has gotten to be almost non exsistent since getting rid of

Rt3 and taking cytomel only. I still have some issues

with the heart although it is not skipped beats and not

even a fast pulse so I am going to have to figure what IS

causing this for me. I have been putting off going to my

heart doctor but maybe that is in order.

Thanks again for your input.

Venizia

--- On Tue, 8/10/10, kcpeterson55343

wrot

Subject: Re: a little freaked....need

reassurance

To: RT3_T3 (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com

Date: Tuesday, August 10, 2010, 3:05 PM

I'm not Val but I can tell you that my sex

hormones were very low when last tested and I am

now starting week 16 of T3 only. I am a 56 year

old female, post menopausal and for the last three

years I have had a dreadful irregular heartbeat

that would start mid morning and get worse until

around 8 p.m. when I would find myself coughing to

stop the irregularity (which was at its worse

skipping a beat every 4th or 5th beat). During the

first few weeks of T3 only it got a little better

but continued to be an issue. In the last few

weeks I have not experienced any irregularity (I

hate to even say it). I have blamed everything in

the book for my irregularity including fermented

food, caffeine, etc. but now that I am finally

getting close to the perfect dose of T3 (which I

am guessing will be 125 mcg)my heart is happy and

I have had all the foods and drinks I was blaming

for the issue. Perhaps my hormones are better now

that my thyroid is more regulated but in any case

my hormones being off did not create any heart

problems for me.

I remain amazed that my thyroid being off was

causing me so many problems and am just so

grateful for Val, Nick and Margery as well as all

the members for the support that seems to come

just when you need it.

Kris

>

>

[Guest guest]

MANY women NEED hormoens with menopause. It si not a matter of

wanting or not when your ovaries stop mkimng them, your ADRENALS

take over at a slwoer pace. But when adrenals can;t ,ake enoug hyou

can get some horrid symotms such s osteoporosis, and strokes, and

heart palps and sweatign. I have heard of neuropathy from lwo

estrogen too.

http://www.nthadrenalsweb.com http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

http://artisticgrooming.net/

Val,

I just had labs done last week.  I will have to check if

those were done also.  I tend to think not.  Even if I am

post menopausal, I need estradoil??  I do not want to take

any hormones for menopause.  I have been menopause since

2001.  Would this still be an issue?

Venizia

Kris

Thank you so much for this.  I guess I was

also blaming a lot of my issues on the

fact that I have a sulfite sensitivity. 

In fact, I have noticed the reactions I

was having to SO much of what I ate and

drank, in actuality, has gotten to be

almost non exsistent since getting rid of

Rt3 and taking cytomel only.  I still have

some issues with the heart although it is

not skipped beats and not even a fast

pulse so I am going to have to figure what

IS causing this for me.  I have been

putting off going to my heart doctor but

maybe that is in order.

Thanks again for your input.

Venizia

--- On Tue, 8/10/10, kcpeterson55343

wrot

Subject: Re: a little

freaked....need reassurance

To: RT3_T3 (AT) yahoogroups (DOT)

com

Date: Tuesday, August 10, 2010, 3:05 PM

 

I'm not Val but I can tell you

that my sex hormones were very low

when last tested and I am now

starting week 16 of T3 only. I am

a 56 year old female, post

menopausal and for the last three

years I have had a dreadful

irregular heartbeat that would

start mid morning and get worse

until around 8 p.m. when I would

find myself coughing to stop the

irregularity (which was at its

worse skipping a beat every 4th or

5th beat). During the first few

weeks of T3 only it got a little

better but continued to be an

issue. In the last few weeks I

have not experienced any

irregularity (I hate to even say

it). I have blamed everything in

the book for my irregularity

including fermented food,

caffeine, etc. but now that I am

finally getting close to the

perfect dose of T3 (which I am

guessing will be 125 mcg)my heart

is happy and I have had all the

foods and drinks I was blaming for

the issue. Perhaps my hormones are

better now that my thyroid is more

regulated but in any case my

hormones being off did not create

any heart problems for me.

I remain amazed that my thyroid

being off was causing me so many

problems and am just so grateful

for Val, Nick and Margery as well

as all the members for the support

that seems to come just when you

need it.

Kris

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hmm, I had one ovary removed in 2004 but I never noticed any issues afterward but maybe it took this long for my adrenals to tank and rt3 to take over. I never put the two or three together. So if I do start taking estradoil, I will also have to take progesterone, right? Boy, I really do not want to rock the boat with finally getting this right with my adrenals and rt3. And isn't it dangerous for women over 60 to take hormone replacement. Isn't that what that big study revealed a few years ago. HRT was not recommended? Sorry I know this is not Rt3 related but indirectly, maybe?Venizia

Kris

Thank you so much for this. I guess I was

also blaming a lot of my issues on the

fact that I have a sulfite sensitivity.

In fact, I have noticed the reactions I

was having to SO much of what I ate and

drank, in actuality, has gotten to be

almost non exsistent since getting rid of

Rt3 and taking cytomel only. I still have

some issues with the heart although it is

not skipped beats and not even a fast

pulse so I am going to have to figure what

IS causing this for me. I have been

putting off going to my heart doctor but

maybe that is in order.

Thanks again for your input.

Venizia

--- On Tue, 8/10/10, kcpeterson55343

wrot

Subject: Re: a little

freaked....need reassurance

To: RT3_T3 (AT) yahoogroups (DOT)

com

Date: Tuesday, August 10, 2010, 3:05 PM

I'm not Val but I can tell you

that my sex hormones were very low

when last tested and I am now

starting week 16 of T3 only. I am

a 56 year old female, post

menopausal and for the last three

years I have had a dreadful

irregular heartbeat that would

start mid morning and get worse

until around 8 p.m. when I would

find myself coughing to stop the

irregularity (which was at its

worse skipping a beat every 4th or

5th beat). During the first few

weeks of T3 only it got a little

better but continued to be an

issue. In the last few weeks I

have not experienced any

irregularity (I hate to even say

it). I have blamed everything in

the book for my irregularity

including fermented food,

caffeine, etc. but now that I am

finally getting close to the

perfect dose of T3 (which I am

guessing will be 125 mcg)my heart

is happy and I have had all the

foods and drinks I was blaming for

the issue. Perhaps my hormones are

better now that my thyroid is more

regulated but in any case my

hormones being off did not create

any heart problems for me.

I remain amazed that my thyroid

being off was causing me so many

problems and am just so grateful

for Val, Nick and Margery as well

as all the members for the support

that seems to come just when you

need it.

Kris

>

>

[Guest guest]

I'm interested in that too. I haven't had my female hormones checked. I'm post menopausal too, and the doctor never does any tests except for a pap.

<>Roni

Immortality exists!

It's called knowledge!

Just because something isn't seen

doesn't mean it's not there<>

Subject: a little freaked....need reassuranceTo: RT3_T3 Date: Monday, August 9, 2010, 7:22 PM

I was reading a book by Lee Vliet on hormones called "It's my Ovaries, Stupid" and she freaked me out a little about going up on my t3. I have RT3 and I have been on cytomel for about four weeks and have been following your protocol with no adverse effects. In her book, vliets said that if you are low on estradiol and taking high does of T3, you can get "lethal heart rhythm disturbances, dangerously high blood pressure, severe anxiety and sudden death." Needless to say, I panicked. I believe my hormones are off, particularly my estradiol. My doctor has been running tests piecemeal and she has not done estradiol. I'm getting ready to leave on a three-week trip overseas and am reluctant to stop my T3 and want to continue increasing it so I can get rid of RT3, but now I'm nervous. Any thoughts? Ines

[Guest guest]

Which tests do I need for estrogen, etc, since I am also on T3 only?

<>Roni

Immortality exists!

It's called knowledge!

Just because something isn't seen

doesn't mean it's not there<>

KrisThank you so much for this. I guess I was also blaming a lot of my issues on the fact that I have a sulfite sensitivity. In fact, I have noticed the reactions I was having to SO much of what I ate and drank, in actuality, has gotten to be almost non exsistent since getting rid of Rt3 and taking cytomel only. I still have some issues with the heart although it is not skipped beats and not even a fast pulse so I am going to have to figure what IS causing this for me. I have been putting off going to my heart doctor but maybe that is in order.Thanks again for your input.Venizia--- On Tue, 8/10/10, kcpeterson55343 wrot

Subject: Re: a little freaked....need reassuranceTo: RT3_T3 Date: Tuesday, August 10, 2010, 3:05 PM

I'm not Val but I can tell you that my sex hormones were very low when last tested and I am now starting week 16 of T3 only. I am a 56 year old female, post menopausal and for the last three years I have had a dreadful irregular heartbeat that would start mid morning and get worse until around 8 p.m. when I would find myself coughing to stop the irregularity (which was at its worse skipping a beat every 4th or 5th beat). During the first few weeks of T3 only it got a little better but continued to be an issue. In the last few weeks I have not experienced any irregularity (I hate to even say it). I have blamed everything in the book for my irregularity including fermented food, caffeine, etc. but now that I am finally getting close to the perfect dose of T3 (which I am guessing will be 125 mcg)my heart is happy and I have had all the foods and drinks I was blaming for the issue. Perhaps my hormones are better now that my thyroid is more

regulated but in any case my hormones being off did not create any heart problems for me.I remain amazed that my thyroid being off was causing me so many problems and am just so grateful for Val, Nick and Margery as well as all the members for the support that seems to come just when you need it.Kris> >

[Guest guest]

total and free estradiol

http://www.nthadrenalsweb.com http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

http://artisticgrooming.net/

Which tests do I

need for estrogen, etc, since I am also on T3 only?

<>Roni

Immortality exists!

It's called knowledge!

Just

because something isn't seen

doesn't mean it's not

there<>

Kris

Thank you so much for this. I guess I was

also blaming a lot of my issues on the fact

that I have a sulfite sensitivity. In fact,

I have noticed the reactions I was having to

SO much of what I ate and drank, in

actuality, has gotten to be almost non

exsistent since getting rid of Rt3 and

taking cytomel only. I still have some

issues with the heart although it is not

skipped beats and not even a fast pulse so I

am going to have to figure what IS causing

this for me. I have been putting off going

to my heart doctor but maybe that is in

order.

Thanks again for your input.

Venizia

--- On Tue, 8/10/10, kcpeterson55343

wrot

Subject: Re: a little

freaked....need reassurance

To: RT3_T3

Date: Tuesday, August 10, 2010, 3:05 PM

I'm not Val but I can tell you that

my sex hormones were very low when

last tested and I am now starting

week 16 of T3 only. I am a 56 year

old female, post menopausal and for

the last three years I have had a

dreadful irregular heartbeat that

would start mid morning and get

worse until around 8 p.m. when I

would find myself coughing to stop

the irregularity (which was at its

worse skipping a beat every 4th or

5th beat). During the first few

weeks of T3 only it got a little

better but continued to be an issue.

In the last few weeks I have not

experienced any irregularity (I hate

to even say it). I have blamed

everything in the book for my

irregularity including fermented

food, caffeine, etc. but now that I

am finally getting close to the

perfect dose of T3 (which I am

guessing will be 125 mcg)my heart is

happy and I have had all the foods

and drinks I was blaming for the

issue. Perhaps my hormones are

better now that my thyroid is more

regulated but in any case my

hormones being off did not create

any heart problems for me.

I remain amazed that my thyroid

being off was causing me so many

problems and am just so grateful for

Val, Nick and Margery as well as all

the members for the support that

seems to come just when you need it.

Kris

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Venezia,

I have been on Estradiol, Progeterone and Testosterone for about 3-1/2 yrs. now. I'm 52. It has made a tremendous difference in how I feel, along with riding my body of the RT3 and a T3 only regimen with Val's help of course. Try to find a Dr. that will give you Bio-identical hormones. I know that many ladies DO take the synthetic and do very well but I believe most of the harmful discussion has come from the synthetic hormones vs. the bio-identical compounded hormones. I had tested hormones via saliva for the past years until just recently when I found a Dr. that would adjust my doses via blood testing, which is what Val recommends. I do think that Val takes a synthetic hormone which seems to work best for her. Again, I think like many things it is a personal situation, especially since you seem to not be able to tolerate many of the fillers. I

suppose it is worth looking into and questioning. The testing alone will give you the best answers. All of mine tested extremely low and since I have been taking the hormones I have noticed a huge change for the better. Hope this helps.

Cindy

KrisThank you so much for this. I guess I was also blaming a lot of my issues on the fact that I have a sulfite sensitivity. In fact, I have noticed the reactions I was having to SO much of what I ate and drank, in actuality, has gotten to be almost non exsistent since getting rid of Rt3 and taking cytomel only. I still have some issues with the heart although it is not skipped beats and not even a fast pulse so I am going to have to figure what IS causing this for me. I have been putting off going to my heart doctor but maybe that is in order.Thanks again for your input.Venizia--- On Tue, 8/10/10, kcpeterson55343 wrot

Subject: Re: a little freaked....need reassuranceTo: RT3_T3 (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) comDate: Tuesday, August 10, 2010, 3:05 PM

I'm not Val but I can tell you that my sex hormones were very low when last tested and I am now starting week 16 of T3 only. I am a 56 year old female, post menopausal and for the last three years I have had a dreadful irregular heartbeat that would start mid morning and get worse until around 8 p.m. when I would find myself coughing to stop the irregularity (which was at its worse skipping a beat every 4th or 5th beat). During the first few weeks of T3 only it got a little better but continued to be an issue. In the last few weeks I have not experienced any irregularity (I hate to even say it). I have blamed everything in the book for my irregularity including fermented food, caffeine, etc. but now that I am finally getting close to the perfect dose of T3 (which I am guessing will be 125 mcg)my heart is happy and I have had all the foods and drinks I was blaming for the issue. Perhaps my hormones are better now that my thyroid is more

regulated but in any case my hormones being off did not create any heart problems for me.I remain amazed that my thyroid being off was causing me so many problems and am just so grateful for Val, Nick and Margery as well as all the members for the support that seems to come just when you need it.Kris> >

[Guest guest]

Thank you. When I stopped the HRT I was taking, it was because of the nurses' test.

I had been on Prempro. I went into menopause in 1986, and I don't have the sweats

anymore. I do remember that they were concerned about the combination of estrogen

and progesterone. I (THINK) they said that the estrogen alone was all right, but I don't

know of any studies about it alone in post menopausal women who have not taken it

since 2001 or so.

<>Roni

Immortality exists!

It's called knowledge!

Just because something isn't seen

doesn't mean it's not there<>

KrisThank you so much for this. I guess I was also blaming a lot of my issues on the fact that I have a sulfite sensitivity. In fact, I have noticed the reactions I was having to SO much of what I ate and drank, in actuality, has gotten to be almost non exsistent since getting rid of Rt3 and taking cytomel only. I still have some issues with the heart although it is not skipped beats and not even a fast pulse so I am going to have to figure what IS causing this for me. I have been putting off going to my heart doctor but maybe that is in order.Thanks again for your input.Venizia--- On Tue, 8/10/10, kcpeterson55343 wrot

Subject: Re: a little freaked....need reassuranceTo: RT3_T3 Date: Tuesday, August 10, 2010, 3:05 PM

I'm not Val but I can tell you that my sex hormones were very low when last tested and I am now starting week 16 of T3 only. I am a 56 year old female, post menopausal and for the last three years I have had a dreadful irregular heartbeat that would start mid morning and get worse until around 8 p.m. when I would find myself coughing to stop the irregularity (which was at its worse skipping a beat every 4th or 5th beat). During the first few weeks of T3 only it got a little better but continued to be an issue. In the last few weeks I have not experienced any irregularity (I hate to even say it). I have blamed everything in the book for my irregularity including fermented food, caffeine, etc. but now that I am finally getting close to the perfect dose of T3 (which I am guessing will be 125 mcg)my heart is happy and I have had all the foods and drinks I was blaming for the issue. Perhaps my hormones are better now that my thyroid is more

regulated but in any case my hormones being off did not create any heart problems for me.I remain amazed that my thyroid being off was causing me so many problems and am just so grateful for Val, Nick and Margery as well as all the members for the support that seems to come just when you need it.Kris> >

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bound to albumin, and I'm not sure how that could be measured. Perhaps a saliva

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Hi Cindy,My doctor does prescribe bio-identical but I cannot afford it for insurance does not cover it. I will talk with her about it though to be fully informed. Thanks for your input.Venizia

KrisThank you so much for this. I guess I was also blaming a lot of my issues on the fact that I have a sulfite sensitivity. In fact, I have noticed the reactions I was having to SO much of what I ate and drank, in actuality, has gotten to be almost non exsistent since getting rid of Rt3 and taking cytomel only. I still have some issues with the heart although it is not skipped beats and not even a fast pulse so I am going to have to figure what IS causing this for me. I have been putting off going to my heart doctor but maybe that is in order.Thanks again for your input.Venizia--- On Tue, 8/10/10, kcpeterson55343 wrot

Subject: Re: a little freaked....need reassuranceTo: RT3_T3 (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) comDate: Tuesday, August 10, 2010, 3:05 PM

I'm not Val but I can tell you that my sex hormones were very low when last tested and I am now starting week 16 of T3 only. I am a 56 year old female, post menopausal and for the last three years I have had a dreadful irregular heartbeat that would start mid morning and get worse until around 8 p.m. when I would find myself coughing to stop the irregularity (which was at its worse skipping a beat every 4th or 5th beat). During the first few weeks of T3 only it got a little better but continued to be an issue. In the last few weeks I have not experienced any irregularity (I hate to even say it). I have blamed everything in the book for my irregularity including fermented food, caffeine, etc. but now that I am finally getting close to the perfect dose of T3 (which I am guessing will be 125 mcg)my heart is happy and I have had all the foods and drinks I was blaming for the issue. Perhaps my hormones are better now that my thyroid is more

regulated but in any case my hormones being off did not create any heart problems for me.I remain amazed that my thyroid being off was causing me so many problems and am just so grateful for Val, Nick and Margery as well as all the members for the support that seems to come just when you need it.Kris> >

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You can take bio identical hrt until you die, you'll probably live longer if you do. I'm peri and was totally set to not take any but as I'm aging I'm finding I do better on bio identicals, it tricks my body into thinking I'm back in my 30's and wow, it is making a difference. Anti aging medicine is really taking off and even my husband is taking bio identicals, he was really getting old fast (he's only 54) and now he's like a spring chicken with lots of energy, no longer sitting and moping on the couch and half depressed like he had nothing to live for, now with replacement therapy he chases me around like he just met me..and knows what to do when I let him catch me;-). I highly recommend replacing your hormones with natural bio identicals Carol. Also you might consider reading some of Suzanne Sommers books on this subject, she's 70 and doesn't look over 40. Our bodies start rapidly declining hormonally at a early age and we can easily trick them into believing their still young and full of the bull;-) Getting our thyroids and adrenals in check is only part of the symphony our bodies can play for many, many years LOL.<<Posted by: "Carol " nelsonck@... venizia1948Tue Aug 10, 2010 5:24 pm (PDT)Hmm, I had one ovary removed in 2004 but I never noticed any issues afterward but maybe it took this long for my adrenals to tank and rt3 to take over. I never put the two or three together. So if I do start taking estradoil, I will also have to take progesterone, right? Boy, I really do not want to rock the boat with finally getting this right with my adrenals and rt3. And isn't it dangerous for women over 60 to take hormone replacement. Isn't that what that big study revealed a few years ago. HRT was not recommended? Sorry I know this is not Rt3 related but indirectly, maybe?Venizia>> Kem in Eugene <º)))><

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Along with CBC, electrolytes, and other basic screening tests, I had Estradiol, estrone, and estriol, progesterone, testosterone, dhea, shbg, checked insulin and bone density scan. All of my levels were in the tank. Anti aging doctors or good gyn that regularly uses bio identical replacement hormones are the best IMO. My doc won't just use estrogen only, says it can cause cancer, he adds progesterone and a touch of testosterone if needed. They come in creams, patches or compounded, depending on what your body needs.<<Posted by: "Roni Molin" matchermaam@... matchermaamTue Aug 10, 2010 5:49 pm (PDT)Which tests do I need for estrogen, etc, since I am also on T3 only?<>RoniImmortality exists!It's called knowledge! Just because something isn't seendoesn't mean it's not there<>>> Kem in Eugene <º)))><

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It seems like this good high jacked, Should Ines be concerned? I'm interested

too. Thanks. Judy

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Ovaries, Stupid " and she freaked me out a little about going up on my t3. I have

RT3 and I have been on cytomel for about four weeks and have been following your

protocol with no adverse effects.

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of T3, you can get " lethal heart rhythm disturbances, dangerously high blood

pressure, severe anxiety and sudden death. " Needless to say, I panicked. I

believe my hormones are off, particularly my estradiol. My doctor has been

running tests piecemeal and she has not done estradiol. I'm getting ready to

leave on a three-week trip overseas and am reluctant to stop my T3 and want to

continue increasing it so I can get rid of RT3, but now I'm nervous. Any

thoughts? Ines

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I really think sh eis being overly dramatic and has this ingrown

ridicuolous fear of T3 that many doctors have. But I DO believe low

estrogne may pay a role in not feelign well on T3 onyl. Simply because

it exascerbates lwo estrogne symptoms when the SHBG rises. Low estrogen

symptms cna be pretty severe for some women and SHOULD be addressed.

Estrogen si SO vitl for good health I dont;l knwo why the huge fear of

replacing ti when it si low.

http://www.nthadrenalsweb.com

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

http://artisticgrooming.net/

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Ovaries, Stupid " and she freaked me out a little about going up on my t3. I have

RT3 and I have been on cytomel for about four weeks and have been following your

protocol with no adverse effects.

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does of T3, you can get " lethal heart rhythm disturbances, dangerously high

blood pressure, severe anxiety and sudden death. " Needless to say, I panicked. I

believe my hormones are off, particularly my estradiol. My doctor has been

running tests piecemeal and she has not done estradiol. I'm getting ready to

leave on a three-week trip overseas and am reluctant to stop my T3 and want to

continue increasing it so I can get rid of RT3, but now I'm nervous. Any

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I'm sure the bioidenticals help, but in Suzanne Sommers case so does her plastic surgeon.

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Subject: Re: a little freaked....need reassuranceTo: "RT3" <RT3_T3 >Date: Wednesday, August 11, 2010, 1:05 AM

You can take bio identical hrt until you die, you'll probably live longer if you do. I'm peri and was totally set to not take any but as I'm aging I'm finding I do better on bio identicals, it tricks my body into thinking I'm back in my 30's and wow, it is making a difference. Anti aging medicine is really taking off and even my husband is taking bio identicals, he was really getting old fast (he's only 54) and now he's like a spring chicken with lots of energy, no longer sitting and moping on the couch and half depressed like he had nothing to live for, now with replacement therapy he chases me around like he just met me..and knows what to do when I let him catch me;-). I highly recommend replacing your hormones with natural bio identicals Carol. Also you might consider reading some of Suzanne Sommers books on this subject, she's 70 and doesn't look over 40. Our bodies start rapidly declining hormonally at a early age

and we can easily trick them into believing their still young and full of the bull;-) Getting our thyroids and adrenals in check is only part of the symphony our bodies can play for many, many years LOL.

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Tue Aug 10, 2010 5:24 pm (PDT)

Hmm, I had one ovary removed in 2004 but I never noticed any issues afterward but maybe it took this long for my adrenals to tank and rt3 to take over. I never put the two or three together. So if I do start taking estradoil, I will also have to take progesterone, right? Boy, I really do not want to rock the boat with finally getting this right with my adrenals and rt3. And isn't it dangerous for women over 60 to take hormone replacement. Isn't that what that big study revealed a few years ago. HRT was not recommended? Sorry I know this is not Rt3 related but indirectly, maybe?Venizia>>

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