Re: rt3 depression/anxiety

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Hang in ther eHolly. You sound s bit on the adrenal side with the

intolerance issues. Hopefully you are treatign that end as well as the

thyroid?

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

http://artisticgrooming.net/

> I feel like I'm losing my mind. I know that my rt3 of 4 is bad but is it

supposed to feel like I'm gonna die? I don't know how much longer I can do

this. I am so unpleasant to deal with (to say the least). I can't handle my

kids anymore, I'm driving my husband nuts. I flip out over nothing, to me it's

like the world is ending - to everyone else it's just a little spilt milk. Any

noise I hear causes me to jump like I'm in danger - ridiclous. I have no

toleration for myself and my behavior but I can't seem to control it. I'm

trying to cope... to believe an end is in sight but I cry all the time - not

knowing how I'm going to make it there. Any insight? Is there really an answer

to all this?

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Have you been tested for Free T3, Free T4, Reverse T3 and TSH all at once without taking any meds of any kind that morning?

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Subject: rt3 depression/anxietyTo: RT3_T3 Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 5:13 PM

I feel like I'm losing my mind. I know that my rt3 of 4 is bad but is it supposed to feel like I'm gonna die? I don't know how much longer I can do this. I am so unpleasant to deal with (to say the least). I can't handle my kids anymore, I'm driving my husband nuts. I flip out over nothing, to me it's like the world is ending - to everyone else it's just a little spilt milk. Any noise I hear causes me to jump like I'm in danger - ridiclous. I have no toleration for myself and my behavior but I can't seem to control it. I'm trying to cope... to believe an end is in sight but I cry all the time - not knowing how I'm going to make it there. Any insight? Is there really an answer to all this? ------------------------------------We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our experiences. Please use this information with the help of

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Yes- here they are

Free T3 2.2 pg/mL (2.4-4.2)

Reverse T3 492 pg/mL (90-350)

T3 78 ng/dL (60-181)

Free T4 1.5 ng/dL (.9-1.8)

TSH 1.70 (.35-5.50)

Ferritin 40 (10-291)

I posted full labs a few days ago and it was under Holly Protz. Not sure if I'm

doing this whole group thing right. Starting new link... sometimes I send

directly from email - others from here.

thx-holly

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> From: hollyamp

> Subject: rt3 depression/anxiety

> To: RT3_T3

> Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 5:13 PM

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> I feel like I'm losing my mind. I know that my rt3 of 4 is bad but is it

supposed to feel like I'm gonna die?  I don't know how much longer I can do

this.  I am so unpleasant to deal with (to say the least).  I can't handle my

kids anymore, I'm driving my husband nuts.  I flip out over nothing, to me it's

like the world is ending - to everyone else  it's just a little spilt milk.  Any

noise I hear causes me to jump like I'm in danger - ridiclous.  I have no

toleration for myself and my behavior but I can't seem to control it.  I'm

trying to cope... to believe an end is in sight but I cry all the time - not

knowing how I'm going to make it there.  Any insight?  Is there really an answer

to all this? 

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I'm trying to hang in. I am doing 25mg of hydro cream. So far 11 days and no

changes in personality yet. I start iron tomorrow, see doc on thurs and will

ask for Potassium script as you advised. Also will watch magnesium and get

aldosterone checked. I know this is just the beginning and I need to be patient

- but it feels near impossible.

Thx-Holly

> > I feel like I'm losing my mind. I know that my rt3 of 4 is bad but is it

supposed to feel like I'm gonna die? I don't know how much longer I can do

this. I am so unpleasant to deal with (to say the least). I can't handle my

kids anymore, I'm driving my husband nuts. I flip out over nothing, to me it's

like the world is ending - to everyone else it's just a little spilt milk. Any

noise I hear causes me to jump like I'm in danger - ridiclous. I have no

toleration for myself and my behavior but I can't seem to control it. I'm

trying to cope... to believe an end is in sight but I cry all the time - not

knowing how I'm going to make it there. Any insight? Is there really an answer

to all this?

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Holly,Do not give up. I was at my wits end a little over a year ago and I have gotten rid of my Rt3. It will happen for you to. When you feel at your worse, do something that you can enjoy...even if it is sitting in a room by yourself. Also, so my husband understood what I was going through, I would have him read some of the links listed in the group. I also would point out things in Janie's book Stop The Thyroid Madness. It might help.You will get there Holly.VeniziaSubject: rt3 depression/anxietyTo: RT3_T3 Date: Monday, July 12, 2010,

7:13 PM

I feel like I'm losing my mind. I know that my rt3 of 4 is bad but is it supposed to feel like I'm gonna die? I don't know how much longer I can do this. I am so unpleasant to deal with (to say the least). I can't handle my kids anymore, I'm driving my husband nuts. I flip out over nothing, to me it's like the world is ending - to everyone else it's just a little spilt milk. Any noise I hear causes me to jump like I'm in danger - ridiclous. I have no toleration for myself and my behavior but I can't seem to control it. I'm trying to cope... to believe an end is in sight but I cry all the time - not knowing how I'm going to make it there. Any insight? Is there really an answer to all this?

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your symptoms describe more or less how I was before

I increased my HC both dosage wise, and also

frequency during the day

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Subject : RE: Re: rt3 depression/anxiety

Hang in ther eHolly. You sound s bit on the

adrenal side with the

intolerance issues. Hopefully you are treatign that

end as well as the

thyroid?

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

http://artisticgrooming.net/

> I feel like I'm losing my mind. I know that my rt3

of 4 is bad but is it supposed to feel like I'm gonna

die? I don't know how much longer I can do this. I

am so unpleasant to deal with (to say the least). I

can't handle my kids anymore, I'm driving my husband

nuts. I flip out over nothing, to me it's like the

world is ending - to everyone else it's just a

little spilt milk. Any noise I hear causes me to

jump like I'm in danger - ridiclous. I have no

toleration for myself and my behavior but I can't

seem to control it. I'm trying to cope... to believe

an end is in sight but I cry all the time - not

knowing how I'm going to make it there. Any insight?

Is there really an answer to all this?

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> We are not medical professionals here, just

patients sharing our experiences. Please use this

information with the help of a competent doctor.

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Venizia,

It's nice to know it can happen. I have been removing myself from my family

whenever I can to give us all a break. I'm so tired but can't sleep and in so

much pain. I just rest in quiet on the heating pad. I am so sick of my bed!!

14 years with chronic fatigue and fibro and I am ready to run free. Pain is so

bad I can't do anything - got a wheelchair but can't bring myself to use it. I

just HOPE this is it.

My husband is an angel. He is fully on board with this, read STTM in 2 days and

is putting up with my non stop rt3 talk. I wouldn't be here if it weren't for

him. But as this nears it's end - it seems to be worse than ever. In all these

years he's never questioned my invisible symptoms - I am so lucky. He's trying

his best with me but I'm not easy to handle. I guess it's good at least I

acknowledge that but it doesn't make it any easier.

Thanks for telling me it's possible - I need to hear that.

Holly

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> Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 7:13 PM

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supposed to feel like I'm gonna die? I don't know how much longer I can do

this. I am so unpleasant to deal with (to say the least). I can't handle my

kids anymore, I'm driving my husband nuts. I flip out over nothing, to me it's

like the world is ending - to everyone else it's just a little spilt milk. Any

noise I hear causes me to jump like I'm in danger - ridiclous. I have no

toleration for myself and my behavior but I can't seem to control it. I'm

trying to cope... to believe an end is in sight but I cry all the time - not

knowing how I'm going to make it there. Any insight? Is there really an answer

to all this?

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i just started 25mg/4x day 11 days ago so I'm not sure if I would increase yet?

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> > I feel like I'm losing my mind. I know that my rt3

> of 4 is bad but is it supposed to feel like I'm gonna

> die? I don't know how much longer I can do this. I

> am so unpleasant to deal with (to say the least). I

> can't handle my kids anymore, I'm driving my husband

> nuts. I flip out over nothing, to me it's like the

> world is ending - to everyone else it's just a

> little spilt milk. Any noise I hear causes me to

> jump like I'm in danger - ridiclous. I have no

> toleration for myself and my behavior but I can't

> seem to control it. I'm trying to cope... to believe

> an end is in sight but I cry all the time - not

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This sounds like adrenal fatigue and adrenaline rushes. Get a saliva cortisol

test through canaryclub.org. and post the results on the sister thyroid adrenals

forum. In fact, you might want to post this post over there or better yet on its

chat site and see the response you get. :-) It will be familiar to everyone.

There is definitely hope. It is absolutely physiological. Long term

hypothyroidism takes a toll on the HPA axis. It can deplete cortisol, allowing

adrenaline to spew out. Not fun at all. For anybody.

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> I feel like I'm losing my mind. I know that my rt3 of 4 is bad but is it

supposed to feel like I'm gonna die? I don't know how much longer I can do

this. I am so unpleasant to deal with (to say the least). I can't handle my

kids anymore, I'm driving my husband nuts. I flip out over nothing, to me it's

like the world is ending - to everyone else it's just a little spilt milk. Any

noise I hear causes me to jump like I'm in danger - ridiclous. I have no

toleration for myself and my behavior but I can't seem to control it. I'm

trying to cope... to believe an end is in sight but I cry all the time - not

knowing how I'm going to make it there. Any insight? Is there really an answer

to all this?

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That's WAY too much. No wonder you feel like you're going crazy! Back it waaay

down. Nick or Val can tell you the starting dose. I started at 25 mcg, but I

made sure my Ferritin was up and I was on HC. Very important as you can crash

your adrenals.

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> > > I feel like I'm losing my mind. I know that my rt3

> > of 4 is bad but is it supposed to feel like I'm gonna

> > die? I don't know how much longer I can do this. I

> > am so unpleasant to deal with (to say the least). I

> > can't handle my kids anymore, I'm driving my husband

> > nuts. I flip out over nothing, to me it's like the

> > world is ending - to everyone else it's just a

> > little spilt milk. Any noise I hear causes me to

> > jump like I'm in danger - ridiclous. I have no

> > toleration for myself and my behavior but I can't

> > seem to control it. I'm trying to cope... to believe

> > an end is in sight but I cry all the time - not

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Can anyone tell me how to change my acct info, e.g. my name on the site, etc.

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Oops-SORRY!!! It's 25mg TOTAL in a day spread out 10/7.5/5/2.5 (vals dose).

Sorry to scare anyone. Also my ferritin is low and I get my bluebonnet

tomorrow.

Thanks-

Holly

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> > > of 4 is bad but is it supposed to feel like I'm gonna

> > > die? I don't know how much longer I can do this. I

> > > am so unpleasant to deal with (to say the least). I

> > > can't handle my kids anymore, I'm driving my husband

> > > nuts. I flip out over nothing, to me it's like the

> > > world is ending - to everyone else it's just a

> > > little spilt milk. Any noise I hear causes me to

> > > jump like I'm in danger - ridiclous. I have no

> > > toleration for myself and my behavior but I can't

> > > seem to control it. I'm trying to cope... to believe

> > > an end is in sight but I cry all the time - not

> > > knowing how I'm going to make it there. Any insight?

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I wonder if you're not absorbing the cream. Some people do have trouble with

that. Why don't you go to the adrenals site with your HC issues where you could

also get a source for HC pills if you wanted to try them to see if they worked

better.

Kerry

PS I thought you meant T3!

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> > > > of 4 is bad but is it supposed to feel like I'm gonna

> > > > die? I don't know how much longer I can do this. I

> > > > am so unpleasant to deal with (to say the least). I

> > > > can't handle my kids anymore, I'm driving my husband

> > > > nuts. I flip out over nothing, to me it's like the

> > > > world is ending - to everyone else it's just a

> > > > little spilt milk. Any noise I hear causes me to

> > > > jump like I'm in danger - ridiclous. I have no

> > > > toleration for myself and my behavior but I can't

> > > > seem to control it. I'm trying to cope... to believe

> > > > an end is in sight but I cry all the time - not

> > > > knowing how I'm going to make it there. Any insight?

> > > > Is there really an answer to all this?

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Holly,It sounds like you have a great support system. Take things day by day. Do what you have to, to make things easier for yourself. It does take time but it will happen. Your husband really cares about you, can tell that from all he seems to do for you.VeniziaSubject: Re: rt3 depression/anxietyTo: RT3_T3 Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 8:01 PM

Venizia,

It's nice to know it can happen. I have been removing myself from my family whenever I can to give us all a break. I'm so tired but can't sleep and in so much pain. I just rest in quiet on the heating pad. I am so sick of my bed!! 14 years with chronic fatigue and fibro and I am ready to run free. Pain is so bad I can't do anything - got a wheelchair but can't bring myself to use it. I just HOPE this is it.

My husband is an angel. He is fully on board with this, read STTM in 2 days and is putting up with my non stop rt3 talk. I wouldn't be here if it weren't for him. But as this nears it's end - it seems to be worse than ever. In all these years he's never questioned my invisible symptoms - I am so lucky. He's trying his best with me but I'm not easy to handle. I guess it's good at least I acknowledge that but it doesn't make it any easier.

Thanks for telling me it's possible - I need to hear that.

Holly

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Thanks for your support too. It all adds up!

I really am blessed to still have him with me fighting the fight. It does take

time is somenthing i need to be reminded of. i want help now but don't want to

jump the gun and end up backwards. I need to follow the plan and believe -

just take it step by step. Easier said than done.

Holly

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this. I am so unpleasant to deal with (to say the least). I can't handle my

kids anymore, I'm driving my husband nuts. I flip out over nothing, to me it's

like the world is ending - to everyone else it's just a little spilt milk. Any

noise I hear causes me to jump like I'm in danger - ridiclous. I have no

toleration for myself and my behavior but I can't seem to control it. I'm

trying to cope... to believe an end is in sight but I cry all the time - not

knowing how I'm going to make it there. Any insight? Is there really an answer

to all this?

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Thanks for your support too. It all adds up!

I really am blessed to still have him with me fighting the fight. It does take

time is somenthing i need to be reminded of. i want help now but don't want to

jump the gun and end up backwards. I need to follow the plan and believe -

just take it step by step. Easier said than done.

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this. I am so unpleasant to deal with (to say the least). I can't handle my

kids anymore, I'm driving my husband nuts. I flip out over nothing, to me it's

like the world is ending - to everyone else it's just a little spilt milk. Any

noise I hear causes me to jump like I'm in danger - ridiclous. I have no

toleration for myself and my behavior but I can't seem to control it. I'm

trying to cope... to believe an end is in sight but I cry all the time - not

knowing how I'm going to make it there. Any insight? Is there really an answer

to all this?

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Thanks for your support too. It all adds up!

I really am blessed to still have him with me fighting the fight. It does take

time is somenthing i need to be reminded of. i want help now but don't want to

jump the gun and end up backwards. I need to follow the plan and believe -

just take it step by step. Easier said than done.

Holly

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it supposed to feel like I'm gonna die? I don't know how much longer I can do

this. I am so unpleasant to deal with (to say the least). I can't handle my

kids anymore, I'm driving my husband nuts. I flip out over nothing, to me it's

like the world is ending - to everyone else it's just a little spilt milk. Any

noise I hear causes me to jump like I'm in danger - ridiclous. I have no

toleration for myself and my behavior but I can't seem to control it. I'm

trying to cope... to believe an end is in sight but I cry all the time - not

knowing how I'm going to make it there. Any insight? Is there really an answer

to all this?

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Kerry -

Should the hc really be starting to work already or do I need to give it more

time? What adrenals sisters site are you suggesting to post at? I did do my

cortisol test thru canary but don't see a sister group to read. I feel pretty

confortable with Vals input. Maybe I should ask my dr. for the actual script.

How long does it take to get temps steady on Hc? Mine are still wacky.

Holly

I'm sure i'll be full of new ?'s once i finally do approch t3.

Thanks for helping me along!

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> > > > > > I feel like I'm losing my mind. I know that my rt3

> > > > > of 4 is bad but is it supposed to feel like I'm gonna

> > > > > die? I don't know how much longer I can do this. I

> > > > > am so unpleasant to deal with (to say the least). I

> > > > > can't handle my kids anymore, I'm driving my husband

> > > > > nuts. I flip out over nothing, to me it's like the

> > > > > world is ending - to everyone else it's just a

> > > > > little spilt milk. Any noise I hear causes me to

> > > > > jump like I'm in danger - ridiclous. I have no

> > > > > toleration for myself and my behavior but I can't

> > > > > seem to control it. I'm trying to cope... to believe

> > > > > an end is in sight but I cry all the time - not

> > > > > knowing how I'm going to make it there. Any insight?

> > > > > Is there really an answer to all this?

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> > > > > > We are not medical professionals here, just

> > > > > patients sharing our experiences. Please use this

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Hi, HollyI just wanted to say that you're on the right path and in the right place! The moderators of these groups know so much, and there are so many members that it is quite a body of information.Val also runs the adrenals groups. If you look below you'll see the address in her signature line. We try to post RT3 stuff on this group, and adrenal stuff on the other group, but often there is some overlap.Good luck on your journey. It sounds like you have a terrific support team.Ann

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Should the hc really be starting to work already or do I need to give it more time? What adrenals sisters site are you suggesting to post at? I did do my cortisol test thru canary but don't see a sister group to read. I feel pretty confortable with Vals input. Maybe I should ask my dr. for the actual script. How long does it take to get temps steady on Hc? Mine are still wacky.

Holly

I'm sure i'll be full of new ?'s once i finally do approch t3.

Thanks for helping me along!

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> > > > > > I feel like I'm losing my mind. I know that my rt3

> > > > > of 4 is bad but is it supposed to feel like I'm gonna

> > > > > die? I don't know how much longer I can do this. I

> > > > > am so unpleasant to deal with (to say the least). I

> > > > > can't handle my kids anymore, I'm driving my husband

> > > > > nuts. I flip out over nothing, to me it's like the

> > > > > world is ending - to everyone else it's just a

> > > > > little spilt milk. Any noise I hear causes me to

> > > > > jump like I'm in danger - ridiclous. I have no

> > > > > toleration for myself and my behavior but I can't

> > > > > seem to control it. I'm trying to cope... to believe

> > > > > an end is in sight but I cry all the time - not

> > > > > knowing how I'm going to make it there. Any insight?

> > > > > Is there really an answer to all this?

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Gee your reverse T3 is even higher than mine. When I was feeling the way you do before I found out what was going on with me, and hadn't found this site yet, my doctor just started me on a small dose of T3 (10mcg) twice a day and I've been titrating very slowly up from there. The T3 started making a difference that I could feel right away. It was amazing. The symptoms just started going away as I went along. I hope you'll be able to get the rest of what your doing up enough and start the T3 to feel better. I know what you're going through and it's no fun. I live alone, so the only person I was making miserable was myself, but you have someone with you so I'd imagine it's worse.

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Subject: Re: rt3 depression/anxietyTo: RT3_T3 Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 5:38 PM

Yes- here they areFree T3 2.2 pg/mL (2.4-4.2)Reverse T3 492 pg/mL (90-350)T3 78 ng/dL (60-181)Free T4 1.5 ng/dL (.9-1.8)TSH 1.70 (.35-5.50) Ferritin 40 (10-291)I posted full labs a few days ago and it was under Holly Protz. Not sure if I'm doing this whole group thing right. Starting new link... sometimes I send directly from email - others from here. thx-holly> > > > Subject: rt3 depression/anxiety> To: RT3_T3 > Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 5:13 PM> > > I feel like I'm losing my mind. I know that my rt3 of 4 is bad but is it supposed to feel like I'm gonna die? I don't know how much longer I can do this. I am so unpleasant to deal with (to say the least). I can't handle my kids anymore, I'm driving my husband nuts. I flip out over nothing, to me it's like the world is ending - to everyone else it's just a little spilt milk. Any noise I hear causes me to jump like I'm in danger - ridiclous. I have no toleration for myself and my

behavior but I can't seem to control it. I'm trying to cope... to believe an end is in sight but I cry all the time - not knowing how I'm going to make it there. Any insight? Is there really an answer to all this? > > > > ------------------------------------> > We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.

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Gee your reverse T3 is even higher than mine. When I was feeling the way you do before I found out what was going on with me, and hadn't found this site yet, my doctor just started me on a small dose of T3 (10mcg) twice a day and I've been titrating very slowly up from there. The T3 started making a difference that I could feel right away. It was amazing. The symptoms just started going away as I went along. I hope you'll be able to get the rest of what your doing up enough and start the T3 to feel better. I know what you're going through and it's no fun. I live alone, so the only person I was making miserable was myself, but you have someone with you so I'd imagine it's worse.

<>Roni

Immortality exists!

It's called knowledge!

Just because something isn't seen

doesn't mean it's not there<>

Subject: Re: rt3 depression/anxietyTo: RT3_T3 Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 5:38 PM

Yes- here they areFree T3 2.2 pg/mL (2.4-4.2)Reverse T3 492 pg/mL (90-350)T3 78 ng/dL (60-181)Free T4 1.5 ng/dL (.9-1.8)TSH 1.70 (.35-5.50) Ferritin 40 (10-291)I posted full labs a few days ago and it was under Holly Protz. Not sure if I'm doing this whole group thing right. Starting new link... sometimes I send directly from email - others from here. thx-holly> > > > Subject: rt3 depression/anxiety> To: RT3_T3 > Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 5:13 PM> > > I feel like I'm losing my mind. I know that my rt3 of 4 is bad but is it supposed to feel like I'm gonna die? I don't know how much longer I can do this. I am so unpleasant to deal with (to say the least). I can't handle my kids anymore, I'm driving my husband nuts. I flip out over nothing, to me it's like the world is ending - to everyone else it's just a little spilt milk. Any noise I hear causes me to jump like I'm in danger - ridiclous. I have no toleration for myself and my

behavior but I can't seem to control it. I'm trying to cope... to believe an end is in sight but I cry all the time - not knowing how I'm going to make it there. Any insight? Is there really an answer to all this? > > > > ------------------------------------> > We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.

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Holly, the symptoms you posted sound like me 25 years ago prior to being diagnosed with hashi's and having my adrenals dealt with. My adrenals finally got worn out over the years and everything you describe is how I felt. Add PMS and whoopee are we having fun yet;-) I'm not real knowledgable on all this like Val and Nick but your ferritin is low, T3 in the tank and high T4 rt3 high, honey no wonder your at your wits end. Your ferritin will have to come up a bit more to tolerate T3 meds, but the T3 meds will help you get straightened out. The pain from fibro, Holly have you heard of Low Dose Naltrexone, LDN? I take it for my fibro and it really works well, there are a couple of LDN groups on yahoo that are very helpful. Once your thyroid gets better the fibro won't be near as bad, I don't have to take LDN near as much as I used to, sometimes only a few times a month. Believe me, your in the right place to get help. <<Posted by: "hollyamp" hollyamp@... hollyampMon Jul 12, 2010 6:01 pm (PDT)Venizia,It's nice to know it can happen. I have been removing myself from my family whenever I can to give us all a break. I'm so tired but can't sleep and in so much pain. I just rest in quiet on the heating pad. I am so sick of my bed!! 14 years with chronic fatigue and fibro and I am ready to run free. Pain is so bad I can't do anything - got a wheelchair but can't bring myself to use it. I just HOPE this is it. My husband is an angel. He is fully on board with this, read STTM in 2 days and is putting up with my non stop rt3 talk. I wouldn't be here if it weren't for him. But as this nears it's end - it seems to be worse than ever. In all these years he's never questioned my invisible symptoms - I am so lucky. He's trying his best with me but I'm not easy to handle. I guess it's good at least I acknowledge that but it doesn't make it any easier.Thanks for telling me it's possible - I need to hear that. Holly>> Kem in Eugene <º)))><

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Holly, the symptoms you posted sound like me 25 years ago prior to being diagnosed with hashi's and having my adrenals dealt with. My adrenals finally got worn out over the years and everything you describe is how I felt. Add PMS and whoopee are we having fun yet;-) I'm not real knowledgable on all this like Val and Nick but your ferritin is low, T3 in the tank and high T4 rt3 high, honey no wonder your at your wits end. Your ferritin will have to come up a bit more to tolerate T3 meds, but the T3 meds will help you get straightened out. The pain from fibro, Holly have you heard of Low Dose Naltrexone, LDN? I take it for my fibro and it really works well, there are a couple of LDN groups on yahoo that are very helpful. Once your thyroid gets better the fibro won't be near as bad, I don't have to take LDN near as much as I used to, sometimes only a few times a month. Believe me, your in the right place to get help. <<Posted by: "hollyamp" hollyamp@... hollyampMon Jul 12, 2010 6:01 pm (PDT)Venizia,It's nice to know it can happen. I have been removing myself from my family whenever I can to give us all a break. I'm so tired but can't sleep and in so much pain. I just rest in quiet on the heating pad. I am so sick of my bed!! 14 years with chronic fatigue and fibro and I am ready to run free. Pain is so bad I can't do anything - got a wheelchair but can't bring myself to use it. I just HOPE this is it. My husband is an angel. He is fully on board with this, read STTM in 2 days and is putting up with my non stop rt3 talk. I wouldn't be here if it weren't for him. But as this nears it's end - it seems to be worse than ever. In all these years he's never questioned my invisible symptoms - I am so lucky. He's trying his best with me but I'm not easy to handle. I guess it's good at least I acknowledge that but it doesn't make it any easier.Thanks for telling me it's possible - I need to hear that. Holly>> Kem in Eugene <º)))><

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I'm sorry, I assumed that's where you got Val's recommendation from. She's over

there too. :-) I'm not really sure about your questions, but that's definitely

the place to ask them! It's:

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

Kerry

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > I feel like I'm losing my mind. I know that my rt3

> > > > > > of 4 is bad but is it supposed to feel like I'm gonna

> > > > > > die? I don't know how much longer I can do this. I

> > > > > > am so unpleasant to deal with (to say the least). I

> > > > > > can't handle my kids anymore, I'm driving my husband

> > > > > > nuts. I flip out over nothing, to me it's like the

> > > > > > world is ending - to everyone else it's just a

> > > > > > little spilt milk. Any noise I hear causes me to

> > > > > > jump like I'm in danger - ridiclous. I have no

> > > > > > toleration for myself and my behavior but I can't

> > > > > > seem to control it. I'm trying to cope... to believe

> > > > > > an end is in sight but I cry all the time - not

> > > > > > knowing how I'm going to make it there. Any insight?

> > > > > > Is there really an answer to all this?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > ------------------------------------

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > We are not medical professionals here, just

> > > > > > patients sharing our experiences. Please use this

> > > > > > information with the help of a competent doctor.

> > > > > >

[Guest guest]

I'm sorry, I assumed that's where you got Val's recommendation from. She's over

there too. :-) I'm not really sure about your questions, but that's definitely

the place to ask them! It's:

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

Kerry

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > I feel like I'm losing my mind. I know that my rt3

> > > > > > of 4 is bad but is it supposed to feel like I'm gonna

> > > > > > die? I don't know how much longer I can do this. I

> > > > > > am so unpleasant to deal with (to say the least). I

> > > > > > can't handle my kids anymore, I'm driving my husband

> > > > > > nuts. I flip out over nothing, to me it's like the

> > > > > > world is ending - to everyone else it's just a

> > > > > > little spilt milk. Any noise I hear causes me to

> > > > > > jump like I'm in danger - ridiclous. I have no

> > > > > > toleration for myself and my behavior but I can't

> > > > > > seem to control it. I'm trying to cope... to believe

> > > > > > an end is in sight but I cry all the time - not

> > > > > > knowing how I'm going to make it there. Any insight?

> > > > > > Is there really an answer to all this?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > ------------------------------------

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > We are not medical professionals here, just

> > > > > > patients sharing our experiences. Please use this

> > > > > > information with the help of a competent doctor.

> > > > > >