Re: Bump Re: Slow Release T3 success? Val

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Are you stoppign iron for at least 5 days and avoiding high iron foods

before testing? That si such a small amount of iron I would not expect

it to take you over range but over range lkabs happen if oyu have not

stopped taking it before testing.

I am not ral familiar with oyur ranges for the aldosterone. In the

USA our usuall salt fasting range is 2-31 adn anything below 14 is

suspect for needing florinef. Under 10 is a probably needs Florinef and

under 8 definitely wil lbenefit from ti. You can sort these variances

out woiht the renin and electrolyte labs. HIGH renin means this is the

MOST aldosterone your body CAN produce which si not good. Low

aldostoerne causes lwo sodium and usually high potasisum which you have

thus I believ you have an aldosterone problem. Licorice root may be

tried if your BP is low. That would be my recommendation as yours is not

in the dirt lwo but still needs support.

http://www.nthadrenalsweb.com

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

http://artisticgrooming.net/

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>>>> Thats what has been confusing me that I have some hypo symptoms yet I can't

put weight on which I believe is a Hyper symptom.

>>>> OK I won't start T3 until we look at this.

>>>

>>> OK, just had this back from Val who's having problams with Yahoo and

>>> e-mails at the moment

>>>

>>> Her take on it is this

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>>>> What I am seeing is signs of MARKED adrenal failure. High potassium ,

>>>> low sodium mark aldosteorn failing. I see the HIGH Am cortils with flat

>>>> line the rest of the day and that si NOT normal. He has theose screwy

>>>> ranges that cannto be used. His body is pumping out T4 as he is makign

>>>> TSH due to lwo T3 and just going higher with T4 and RT3 as he cannto

>>>> convert wiht the low iron adn lwo cortiosl. He def needs to increase

>>>> IRON adn if he si on iodine, which I suspect, STOP it. Green tea needs

>>>> to stop as it has fluoride mucking up everything.

>>> Have a think about that one, it's worth posting all the adrenal

>>> related bits in the adrenal group too

>>>

>>> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

>>>

>>> Their FAQ Web site is here http://faqhelp.webs.com/

>>>

>>> Nick

>>>

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[Guest guest]

Are you stoppign iron for at least 5 days and avoiding high iron foods

before testing? That si such a small amount of iron I would not expect

it to take you over range but over range lkabs happen if oyu have not

stopped taking it before testing.

I am not ral familiar with oyur ranges for the aldosterone. In the

USA our usuall salt fasting range is 2-31 adn anything below 14 is

suspect for needing florinef. Under 10 is a probably needs Florinef and

under 8 definitely wil lbenefit from ti. You can sort these variances

out woiht the renin and electrolyte labs. HIGH renin means this is the

MOST aldosterone your body CAN produce which si not good. Low

aldostoerne causes lwo sodium and usually high potasisum which you have

thus I believ you have an aldosterone problem. Licorice root may be

tried if your BP is low. That would be my recommendation as yours is not

in the dirt lwo but still needs support.

http://www.nthadrenalsweb.com

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

http://artisticgrooming.net/

>

>

>>>

>>>> Thats what has been confusing me that I have some hypo symptoms yet I can't

put weight on which I believe is a Hyper symptom.

>>>> OK I won't start T3 until we look at this.

>>>

>>> OK, just had this back from Val who's having problams with Yahoo and

>>> e-mails at the moment

>>>

>>> Her take on it is this

>>>

>>>> What I am seeing is signs of MARKED adrenal failure. High potassium ,

>>>> low sodium mark aldosteorn failing. I see the HIGH Am cortils with flat

>>>> line the rest of the day and that si NOT normal. He has theose screwy

>>>> ranges that cannto be used. His body is pumping out T4 as he is makign

>>>> TSH due to lwo T3 and just going higher with T4 and RT3 as he cannto

>>>> convert wiht the low iron adn lwo cortiosl. He def needs to increase

>>>> IRON adn if he si on iodine, which I suspect, STOP it. Green tea needs

>>>> to stop as it has fluoride mucking up everything.

>>> Have a think about that one, it's worth posting all the adrenal

>>> related bits in the adrenal group too

>>>

>>> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

>>>

>>> Their FAQ Web site is here http://faqhelp.webs.com/

>>>

>>> Nick

>>>

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> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our experiences.

Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor. Yahoo! Groups

Links

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>

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>

[Guest guest]

Are you stoppign iron for at least 5 days and avoiding high iron foods

before testing? That si such a small amount of iron I would not expect

it to take you over range but over range lkabs happen if oyu have not

stopped taking it before testing.

I am not ral familiar with oyur ranges for the aldosterone. In the

USA our usuall salt fasting range is 2-31 adn anything below 14 is

suspect for needing florinef. Under 10 is a probably needs Florinef and

under 8 definitely wil lbenefit from ti. You can sort these variances

out woiht the renin and electrolyte labs. HIGH renin means this is the

MOST aldosterone your body CAN produce which si not good. Low

aldostoerne causes lwo sodium and usually high potasisum which you have

thus I believ you have an aldosterone problem. Licorice root may be

tried if your BP is low. That would be my recommendation as yours is not

in the dirt lwo but still needs support.

http://www.nthadrenalsweb.com

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

http://artisticgrooming.net/

>

>

>>>

>>>> Thats what has been confusing me that I have some hypo symptoms yet I can't

put weight on which I believe is a Hyper symptom.

>>>> OK I won't start T3 until we look at this.

>>>

>>> OK, just had this back from Val who's having problams with Yahoo and

>>> e-mails at the moment

>>>

>>> Her take on it is this

>>>

>>>> What I am seeing is signs of MARKED adrenal failure. High potassium ,

>>>> low sodium mark aldosteorn failing. I see the HIGH Am cortils with flat

>>>> line the rest of the day and that si NOT normal. He has theose screwy

>>>> ranges that cannto be used. His body is pumping out T4 as he is makign

>>>> TSH due to lwo T3 and just going higher with T4 and RT3 as he cannto

>>>> convert wiht the low iron adn lwo cortiosl. He def needs to increase

>>>> IRON adn if he si on iodine, which I suspect, STOP it. Green tea needs

>>>> to stop as it has fluoride mucking up everything.

>>> Have a think about that one, it's worth posting all the adrenal

>>> related bits in the adrenal group too

>>>

>>> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

>>>

>>> Their FAQ Web site is here http://faqhelp.webs.com/

>>>

>>> Nick

>>>

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It may not be enough as oyu WANT one thta is dstrong enough to affect

your BP. Your BP is on the low side so needs ot come up. This is what

aldosteorne does, helps your body retain salt and it uses potasisum to

push sodium inot the cells thus serum potassium goes down and serum

sodium shoudl come up ONCE the cells are topped up wiht what thye need.

http://www.nthadrenalsweb.org/

http://www.health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://www.faqhelp.webs.com/

http://www.health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

Hi Val

Yes I do stop the iron supplementation 5 days prior to testing. I am

vegetarian and just continue with my normal diet prior to the test.

But you are right as the high serum result in Feb 09 that I referred to

in my earlier post was recorded at a time when I did not know about

that requirement. All the recent tests have been done correctly though.

I have converted my serum Aldosterone measurements to what you are

familiar with.

Aldosterone 16 (Range 4 - 34)

I have converted my Saliva Cortisol readings as well so that they

are more familiar to you.

8am 1.56 (0.22 - 1.51)

Midday 0.12 (0 - 0.4o)

4pm 0.14 (0.07 - 4.0)

8pm 0.12 (0.04 - 0.29)

Midnight 0.11 (0 - 0.18)

So following on from your explanantion below I probably don't need

Florinef. Is that your call as well?

I have seen this Adrenal support capsule.

"These capsules contain a mixture of Magnolia Bark, White Peony

and Licorice which help fire up your kidneys which will aid adrenal

function." "WARNING: The total daily dose of licorice is 320mg which

can be taken long term without affecting blood pressure or reacting

with any medications which can occur at higher doses."

What do you think, does this sound like the right thing for me. If

not can you recommend the correct one for me?

Please advise when you have a moment.

Thank you

Kindest regards

Wayne

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> >>>> Thats what has been confusing me that I have some

hypo symptoms yet I can't put weight on which I believe is a Hyper

symptom.

> >>>> OK I won't start T3 until we look at this.

> >>>

> >>> OK, just had this back from Val who's having problams

with Yahoo and

> >>> e-mails at the moment

> >>>

> >>> Her take on it is this

> >>>

> >>>> What I am seeing is signs of MARKED adrenal

failure. High potassium ,

> >>>> low sodium mark aldosteorn failing. I see the

HIGH A m cortils with flat

> >>>> line the rest of the day and that si NOT normal.

He has theose screwy

> >>>> ranges that cannto be used. His body is pumping

out T4 as he is makign

> >>>> TSH due to lwo T3 and just going higher with T4

and RT3 as he cannto

> >>>> convert wiht the low iron adn lwo cortiosl. He

def needs to increase

> >>>> IRON adn if he si on iodine, which I suspect,

STOP it. Green tea needs

> >>>> to stop as it has fluoride mucking up everything.

> >>> Have a think about that one, it's worth posting all

the adrenal

> >>> related bits in the adrenal group too

> >>>

> >>>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> >>>

> >>> Their FAQ Web site is here http://faqhelp.webs.com/

> >>>

> >>> Nick

> >>>

> >

> >

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> > ------------------------------------

> >

> > We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing

our experiences. Please use this information with the help of a

competent doctor.