Re: Thyroid Labs and latest doctor appointment . Thoughts?

[Guest guest]

>Still bloating, water retention now big time, upper digestive cramping after

eating or late day....I almost feel like just stopping it all as I feel I am

getting worse and not better. HELP!

>

You are hypo, no wonder you feel like that

You need T3 only, either a better Dr or give up and self treat if all

else fails

Nick

--

for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

www.thyroid-rt3.com

For lots of good information of adrenal issues

http://www.nthadrenalsweb.com/

and the adrenal group on

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

[Guest guest]

So if I am hypo what do I do? Keep taking the compound thyroid med? Keep taking

the Cortef? Keep taking the supplements? Doctor was adament that I need BOTH T4

and T3. He also will not put me above 1 grain and have been on that dose for the

last year, he just wants to compound it now to add a little more T3 but still

with both. I just saw a recent family photo of myself and I look HORRIBLE.

Bloated, huge, my eyes look droopy.

I do feel like since taking the Cortef (5 mg.) 2 in a.m., 1 late morning, 1 in

the afternoon, that the water weight and bloating started although my energy

level went up the sleep issues got worse. My Doctor now wants me to start dosing

off Cortef slowly in the next few weeks, so has told me to take less and less to

get off. Ferratin level was at 7, range should be 50 -70. Started taking the

Chelated Iron, 27 mg. now up to 3-4 doses a day and getting the upper stomach

cramps, taking it with Vitamin C like suggested here. I know people said that

things can get worse before better but my husband is now really questioning what

the heck I am doing?? I think even I am questioning what the heck I am doing??

So do I keep taking everything until hopefully finding a doctor to help? This is

madness and very costly to keep doing if I look and feel even worse? HELP!

>

> >Still bloating, water retention now big time, upper digestive cramping after

eating or late day....I almost feel like just stopping it all as I feel I am

getting worse and not better. HELP!

> >

>

> You are hypo, no wonder you feel like that

>

> You need T3 only, either a better Dr or give up and self treat if all

> else fails

>

> Nick

>

> --

>

> for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

>

> www.thyroid-rt3.com

>

> For lots of good information of adrenal issues

>

> http://www.nthadrenalsweb.com/

>

> and the adrenal group on

>

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

>

[Guest guest]

So if I am hypo what do I do? Keep taking the compound thyroid med? Keep taking

the Cortef? Keep taking the supplements? Doctor was adament that I need BOTH T4

and T3. He also will not put me above 1 grain and have been on that dose for the

last year, he just wants to compound it now to add a little more T3 but still

with both. I just saw a recent family photo of myself and I look HORRIBLE.

Bloated, huge, my eyes look droopy.

I do feel like since taking the Cortef (5 mg.) 2 in a.m., 1 late morning, 1 in

the afternoon, that the water weight and bloating started although my energy

level went up the sleep issues got worse. My Doctor now wants me to start dosing

off Cortef slowly in the next few weeks, so has told me to take less and less to

get off. Ferratin level was at 7, range should be 50 -70. Started taking the

Chelated Iron, 27 mg. now up to 3-4 doses a day and getting the upper stomach

cramps, taking it with Vitamin C like suggested here. I know people said that

things can get worse before better but my husband is now really questioning what

the heck I am doing?? I think even I am questioning what the heck I am doing??

So do I keep taking everything until hopefully finding a doctor to help? This is

madness and very costly to keep doing if I look and feel even worse? HELP!

>

> >Still bloating, water retention now big time, upper digestive cramping after

eating or late day....I almost feel like just stopping it all as I feel I am

getting worse and not better. HELP!

> >

>

> You are hypo, no wonder you feel like that

>

> You need T3 only, either a better Dr or give up and self treat if all

> else fails

>

> Nick

>

> --

>

> for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

>

> www.thyroid-rt3.com

>

> For lots of good information of adrenal issues

>

> http://www.nthadrenalsweb.com/

>

> and the adrenal group on

>

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

>

[Guest guest]

So if I am hypo what do I do? Keep taking the compound thyroid med? Keep taking

the Cortef? Keep taking the supplements? Doctor was adament that I need BOTH T4

and T3. He also will not put me above 1 grain and have been on that dose for the

last year, he just wants to compound it now to add a little more T3 but still

with both. I just saw a recent family photo of myself and I look HORRIBLE.

Bloated, huge, my eyes look droopy.

I do feel like since taking the Cortef (5 mg.) 2 in a.m., 1 late morning, 1 in

the afternoon, that the water weight and bloating started although my energy

level went up the sleep issues got worse. My Doctor now wants me to start dosing

off Cortef slowly in the next few weeks, so has told me to take less and less to

get off. Ferratin level was at 7, range should be 50 -70. Started taking the

Chelated Iron, 27 mg. now up to 3-4 doses a day and getting the upper stomach

cramps, taking it with Vitamin C like suggested here. I know people said that

things can get worse before better but my husband is now really questioning what

the heck I am doing?? I think even I am questioning what the heck I am doing??

So do I keep taking everything until hopefully finding a doctor to help? This is

madness and very costly to keep doing if I look and feel even worse? HELP!

>

> >Still bloating, water retention now big time, upper digestive cramping after

eating or late day....I almost feel like just stopping it all as I feel I am

getting worse and not better. HELP!

> >

>

> You are hypo, no wonder you feel like that

>

> You need T3 only, either a better Dr or give up and self treat if all

> else fails

>

> Nick

>

> --

>

> for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

>

> www.thyroid-rt3.com

>

> For lots of good information of adrenal issues

>

> http://www.nthadrenalsweb.com/

>

> and the adrenal group on

>

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

>

[Guest guest]

>So if I am hypo what do I do? Keep taking the compound thyroid med? Keep

taking the Cortef? Keep taking the supplements? Doctor was adament that I need

BOTH T4 and T3. He also will not put me above 1 grain and have been on that dose

for the last year, he just wants to compound it now to add a little more T3 but

still with both. I just saw a recent family photo of myself and I look HORRIBLE.

Bloated, huge, my eyes look droopy.

T4 is just turning into reverse T3 for you and making you feel worse.

You need the starve the reverse out by going T3 only.

T4 has no direct biological activity, it's a pre-hormone for the

active constituent which is T3. The body functions fine on T3 only. If

he does not understand this then he may not be the right Dr for you.

>I do feel like since taking the Cortef (5 mg.) 2 in a.m., 1 late morning, 1 in

the afternoon, that the water weight and bloating started although my energy

level went up the sleep issues got worse.

The normal recommendation is to dose 4 times a day, joining the

adrenal group will help get you information on getting the right

dosage taper

>My Doctor now wants me to start dosing off Cortef slowly in the next few weeks,

so has told me to take less and less to get off.

A maximum taper rate is 2.5 a week but with low Ferritin and high RT3

the chances are you will be under adrenal stress still

>Ferratin level was at 7, range should be 50 -70. Started taking the Chelated

Iron, 27 mg. now up to 3-4 doses a day and getting the upper stomach cramps,

taking it with Vitamin C like suggested here. I know people said that things can

get worse before better but my husband is now really questioning what the heck I

am doing?? I think even I am questioning what the heck I am doing??

>

with that Ferritin level there is no way you can utilize the thyroid

hormones successfully.

>So do I keep taking everything until hopefully finding a doctor to help? This

is madness and very costly to keep doing if I look and feel even worse? HELP!

You seem to know what you are doing better than your Dr.

Get the Ferritin up

Graph temperatures and take as little HC as you can and keep a stable

temperature.

Once Ferritin is up to at least 50 go onto T3 only and ramp the dose

up.

If you need to sack your Dr do so!

Nick

[Guest guest]

>So if I am hypo what do I do? Keep taking the compound thyroid med? Keep

taking the Cortef? Keep taking the supplements? Doctor was adament that I need

BOTH T4 and T3. He also will not put me above 1 grain and have been on that dose

for the last year, he just wants to compound it now to add a little more T3 but

still with both. I just saw a recent family photo of myself and I look HORRIBLE.

Bloated, huge, my eyes look droopy.

T4 is just turning into reverse T3 for you and making you feel worse.

You need the starve the reverse out by going T3 only.

T4 has no direct biological activity, it's a pre-hormone for the

active constituent which is T3. The body functions fine on T3 only. If

he does not understand this then he may not be the right Dr for you.

>I do feel like since taking the Cortef (5 mg.) 2 in a.m., 1 late morning, 1 in

the afternoon, that the water weight and bloating started although my energy

level went up the sleep issues got worse.

The normal recommendation is to dose 4 times a day, joining the

adrenal group will help get you information on getting the right

dosage taper

>My Doctor now wants me to start dosing off Cortef slowly in the next few weeks,

so has told me to take less and less to get off.

A maximum taper rate is 2.5 a week but with low Ferritin and high RT3

the chances are you will be under adrenal stress still

>Ferratin level was at 7, range should be 50 -70. Started taking the Chelated

Iron, 27 mg. now up to 3-4 doses a day and getting the upper stomach cramps,

taking it with Vitamin C like suggested here. I know people said that things can

get worse before better but my husband is now really questioning what the heck I

am doing?? I think even I am questioning what the heck I am doing??

>

with that Ferritin level there is no way you can utilize the thyroid

hormones successfully.

>So do I keep taking everything until hopefully finding a doctor to help? This

is madness and very costly to keep doing if I look and feel even worse? HELP!

You seem to know what you are doing better than your Dr.

Get the Ferritin up

Graph temperatures and take as little HC as you can and keep a stable

temperature.

Once Ferritin is up to at least 50 go onto T3 only and ramp the dose

up.

If you need to sack your Dr do so!

Nick

[Guest guest]

>So if I am hypo what do I do? Keep taking the compound thyroid med? Keep

taking the Cortef? Keep taking the supplements? Doctor was adament that I need

BOTH T4 and T3. He also will not put me above 1 grain and have been on that dose

for the last year, he just wants to compound it now to add a little more T3 but

still with both. I just saw a recent family photo of myself and I look HORRIBLE.

Bloated, huge, my eyes look droopy.

T4 is just turning into reverse T3 for you and making you feel worse.

You need the starve the reverse out by going T3 only.

T4 has no direct biological activity, it's a pre-hormone for the

active constituent which is T3. The body functions fine on T3 only. If

he does not understand this then he may not be the right Dr for you.

>I do feel like since taking the Cortef (5 mg.) 2 in a.m., 1 late morning, 1 in

the afternoon, that the water weight and bloating started although my energy

level went up the sleep issues got worse.

The normal recommendation is to dose 4 times a day, joining the

adrenal group will help get you information on getting the right

dosage taper

>My Doctor now wants me to start dosing off Cortef slowly in the next few weeks,

so has told me to take less and less to get off.

A maximum taper rate is 2.5 a week but with low Ferritin and high RT3

the chances are you will be under adrenal stress still

>Ferratin level was at 7, range should be 50 -70. Started taking the Chelated

Iron, 27 mg. now up to 3-4 doses a day and getting the upper stomach cramps,

taking it with Vitamin C like suggested here. I know people said that things can

get worse before better but my husband is now really questioning what the heck I

am doing?? I think even I am questioning what the heck I am doing??

>

with that Ferritin level there is no way you can utilize the thyroid

hormones successfully.

>So do I keep taking everything until hopefully finding a doctor to help? This

is madness and very costly to keep doing if I look and feel even worse? HELP!

You seem to know what you are doing better than your Dr.

Get the Ferritin up

Graph temperatures and take as little HC as you can and keep a stable

temperature.

Once Ferritin is up to at least 50 go onto T3 only and ramp the dose

up.

If you need to sack your Dr do so!

Nick

[Guest guest]

I felt the same way you did a few months ago. I didn't realize most people on

these groups dump their doctors and order their own labs and order their own

meds from the source list. That is what I am doing now and it is costing less

than paying co-pays for doctors and meds that are too low in dosages. The mods

here are great and if you feel like you need more hand holding Val will do phone

consults for a small fee. Good luck.

> >

> > >Still bloating, water retention now big time, upper digestive cramping

after eating or late day....I almost feel like just stopping it all as I feel I

am getting worse and not better. HELP!

> > >

> >

> > You are hypo, no wonder you feel like that

> >

> > You need T3 only, either a better Dr or give up and self treat if all

> > else fails

> >

> > Nick

> >

> > --

> >

> > for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

> >

> > www.thyroid-rt3.com

> >

> > For lots of good information of adrenal issues

> >

> > http://www.nthadrenalsweb.com/

> >

> > and the adrenal group on

> >

> > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I felt the same way you did a few months ago. I didn't realize most people on

these groups dump their doctors and order their own labs and order their own

meds from the source list. That is what I am doing now and it is costing less

than paying co-pays for doctors and meds that are too low in dosages. The mods

here are great and if you feel like you need more hand holding Val will do phone

consults for a small fee. Good luck.

> >

> > >Still bloating, water retention now big time, upper digestive cramping

after eating or late day....I almost feel like just stopping it all as I feel I

am getting worse and not better. HELP!

> > >

> >

> > You are hypo, no wonder you feel like that

> >

> > You need T3 only, either a better Dr or give up and self treat if all

> > else fails

> >

> > Nick

> >

> > --

> >

> > for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

> >

> > www.thyroid-rt3.com

> >

> > For lots of good information of adrenal issues

> >

> > http://www.nthadrenalsweb.com/

> >

> > and the adrenal group on

> >

> > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I felt the same way you did a few months ago. I didn't realize most people on

these groups dump their doctors and order their own labs and order their own

meds from the source list. That is what I am doing now and it is costing less

than paying co-pays for doctors and meds that are too low in dosages. The mods

here are great and if you feel like you need more hand holding Val will do phone

consults for a small fee. Good luck.

> >

> > >Still bloating, water retention now big time, upper digestive cramping

after eating or late day....I almost feel like just stopping it all as I feel I

am getting worse and not better. HELP!

> > >

> >

> > You are hypo, no wonder you feel like that

> >

> > You need T3 only, either a better Dr or give up and self treat if all

> > else fails

> >

> > Nick

> >

> > --

> >

> > for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

> >

> > www.thyroid-rt3.com

> >

> > For lots of good information of adrenal issues

> >

> > http://www.nthadrenalsweb.com/

> >

> > and the adrenal group on

> >

> > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Your labs look exactly like mine did when I was on more Levoxyl back in March. I

finally chose to lower the T4 and up the T3 on my own so the doctor finally

relented. No matter what, the more I pushed the Levoxyl the worse I got. The

same on Armour for me. I'm taking 25 mcg/Levoxyl (with T3) now just to maintain

consistency but I think I'm going to have to get rid of it and see another

doctor about taking Cortef. I've never had good direction on taking Cortef.

Everyone is too darn scared to script it and then they want me to take a tiny

amount and not dose it throughout the day. I have low iron too. It finally

bumped up to 58 after a few months on iron. Good luck to you. I know you

question what you're doing but I know I feel better doing things myself than

with the doctors, as scary at that sounds sometimes. We know our bodies better

than they do. I hope you can find a good one you feel comfortable with.

Sherry

>

> Just had my latest app't. I am on Naturethroid 1 grain. Labs are as follows:

>

> TSH 1.24 range .40-4.50

> T4 free 1.1 range .8 - 1.8

> T3 free 260 range 230-420

> T3 rever 28 range 11-32

>

> This doctor is one of the first I have had who will at least LISTEN, I sent

him the article about a possible reverse T3 issue before appointment. Once in

appointment I asked him if he agreed with it and he said that he WAS dealing

with the adrenal issues and that he does not want to give me T3 only, like

Cytomel. I mentioned that the thyroid med, the cortef, the other things just do

not seem to be working, he now wants to compound the thyroid med and still give

me the combo of T4 to T3. Says I still need both. Otherwise my labs look fine to

him. Wants to up my progesterone cream and also my testosterone to help with

libido.

>

> Still bloating, water retention now big time, upper digestive cramping after

eating or late day....I almost feel like just stopping it all as I feel I am

getting worse and not better. HELP!

>

[Guest guest]

So continue with supplements, keep trying to up the iron which will take a few

months from what I hear, taper off the HC and just keep taking the compound

thyroid that the Doc is doing until I get my iron up?

No taking T3 only if I can get a Doctor to do it until Ferratin level up?

>

> >So if I am hypo what do I do? Keep taking the compound thyroid med? Keep

taking the Cortef? Keep taking the supplements? Doctor was adament that I need

BOTH T4 and T3. He also will not put me above 1 grain and have been on that dose

for the last year, he just wants to compound it now to add a little more T3 but

still with both. I just saw a recent family photo of myself and I look HORRIBLE.

Bloated, huge, my eyes look droopy.

>

> T4 is just turning into reverse T3 for you and making you feel worse.

>

> You need the starve the reverse out by going T3 only.

>

> T4 has no direct biological activity, it's a pre-hormone for the

> active constituent which is T3. The body functions fine on T3 only. If

> he does not understand this then he may not be the right Dr for you.

>

> >I do feel like since taking the Cortef (5 mg.) 2 in a.m., 1 late morning, 1

in the afternoon, that the water weight and bloating started although my energy

level went up the sleep issues got worse.

>

> The normal recommendation is to dose 4 times a day, joining the

> adrenal group will help get you information on getting the right

> dosage taper

>

> >My Doctor now wants me to start dosing off Cortef slowly in the next few

weeks, so has told me to take less and less to get off.

>

> A maximum taper rate is 2.5 a week but with low Ferritin and high RT3

> the chances are you will be under adrenal stress still

>

> >Ferratin level was at 7, range should be 50 -70. Started taking the Chelated

Iron, 27 mg. now up to 3-4 doses a day and getting the upper stomach cramps,

taking it with Vitamin C like suggested here. I know people said that things can

get worse before better but my husband is now really questioning what the heck I

am doing?? I think even I am questioning what the heck I am doing??

> >

> with that Ferritin level there is no way you can utilize the thyroid

> hormones successfully.

>

> >So do I keep taking everything until hopefully finding a doctor to help? This

is madness and very costly to keep doing if I look and feel even worse? HELP!

>

> You seem to know what you are doing better than your Dr.

>

> Get the Ferritin up

>

> Graph temperatures and take as little HC as you can and keep a stable

> temperature.

>

> Once Ferritin is up to at least 50 go onto T3 only and ramp the dose

> up.

>

> If you need to sack your Dr do so!

>

> Nick

>