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It is remarkable you mention sleeping better after an iron IV - the exact same

thing happens to me. I could never figure out exactly why an iron IV would

affect sleep - improved hemoglobin, improved red cell formation, that is all

clear - but sleep?! Still, they do help my sleep, after a Venofer IV I have

less frequent waking and much less of that unrefreshing tossing-and-turning kind

of sleep.

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi Val,

> > > > >

> > > > > We had spoke on phone bout 5 or so wks ago. At that time, I had just

gotten 2 addl Iron IV's & my then labs showed T3 was pooling. I had gotten up to

70 mcg of Cytomel & you had advised I scale bk down to 60 mcg which I did. After

my 2nd Iron IV, I began 5 mcg weekly raises & was doing real fine up until last

Sunday. By then I was up to 90 mcg of Cytomel & could feel the pooling begin

again. Temps were 98.0 to 98.4 & pulse was anywear from high 70's to 100.

> > > > >

> > > > > I dropped back down to 60 mcg of the T3. I am also in process of

weaning from HC & Florinef bc we had discussed doing so last time on phone as I

was exhibiting high cortisol symptoms such as sweating, bruising & you felt that

could be contributing to the T3 pooling.

> > > > >

> > > > > I am now down to 5 mg of HC & 1/2 tab of Florinef. I am very happy to

report that the relentless immense sweating as greatly subsided. = ) I feel OK w

this small amount of HC & am weaning at a rate of 2.5 mg per w as you & I had

discussed.

> > > > >

> > > > > I got another Iron IV today bc I could feel my ferritin dropping. My

cycles are still rather heavy altho no longer hemoraghing (spelling) as back in

the day. My current PCP is OK w me getting monthly IV iron, which is wonderful.

> > > > >

> > > > > I am hoping I can increase my Cytomel again. Right now I am doing 60

mcg. I was hoping to get bk up to the 90 mcg asap.

> > > > >

> > > > > What do you suggest my game plan be now? How should I proceed

increasing T3?

> > > > >

> > > > > I know I am due for labs & will be having those w.in the next week or

two.

> > > > >

> > > > > I do apologize for the lengthy post. I am also own 120 meq of K-Dur &

have tried scaling down but when I do my edema comes back badly. Also taking 2

1/2 - 3 teaspoons of sea salt a day. My BP has come down since I scaled back on

both the HC & Florinef as we had discussed.

> > > > >

> > > > > In conclusion, here are my questions:

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. How long should I stay at 60 mcg of T3?

> > > > >

> > > > > 2. Is it possible that my body likes 15-20 mcg doses as opposed to 25

mcg doses?

> > > > >

> > > > > 3. Can I dose T3 5-6 times a day as opposed to 4 times?

> > > > >

> > > > > 4. Should I continue to scale down on the HC at the 2.5 mg rate per

wk?

> > > > >

> > > > > 5. Is it OK to stay on the Florinef after I wean off of the HC & then

drop the 1/2 tab at once or should I do 1/4 tab? I dropped 1/2 tab at once

already & did not feel bad doing so.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thnx Val. I may end up setting up phone appt over the wkend.

> > > > >

> > > > > C.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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Exactly! I slept like a stone for parts of last nite. Was delicious! Hadn't

slept like that in several wks. No iron pill even comes close to restoring what

is needed.

I have also noticed how much lighter my undereye circles look. = ) It is nice. I

am glad. No more looking like Garfield! LOL.

Actually got some house cleaning accomplished today. Feel a nice warmth & not

jumpy, but a smooth calm.

I started taking my oral iron liquid today as well. Maybe it will help prolong

this feeling. But it tastes so disgusting!

C.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi Val,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > We had spoke on phone bout 5 or so wks ago. At that time, I had just

gotten 2 addl Iron IV's & my then labs showed T3 was pooling. I had gotten up to

70 mcg of Cytomel & you had advised I scale bk down to 60 mcg which I did. After

my 2nd Iron IV, I began 5 mcg weekly raises & was doing real fine up until last

Sunday. By then I was up to 90 mcg of Cytomel & could feel the pooling begin

again. Temps were 98.0 to 98.4 & pulse was anywear from high 70's to 100.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I dropped back down to 60 mcg of the T3. I am also in process of

weaning from HC & Florinef bc we had discussed doing so last time on phone as I

was exhibiting high cortisol symptoms such as sweating, bruising & you felt that

could be contributing to the T3 pooling.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am now down to 5 mg of HC & 1/2 tab of Florinef. I am very happy

to report that the relentless immense sweating as greatly subsided. = ) I feel

OK w this small amount of HC & am weaning at a rate of 2.5 mg per w as you & I

had discussed.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I got another Iron IV today bc I could feel my ferritin dropping. My

cycles are still rather heavy altho no longer hemoraghing (spelling) as back in

the day. My current PCP is OK w me getting monthly IV iron, which is wonderful.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am hoping I can increase my Cytomel again. Right now I am doing 60

mcg. I was hoping to get bk up to the 90 mcg asap.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What do you suggest my game plan be now? How should I proceed

increasing T3?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I know I am due for labs & will be having those w.in the next week

or two.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I do apologize for the lengthy post. I am also own 120 meq of K-Dur

& have tried scaling down but when I do my edema comes back badly. Also taking 2

1/2 - 3 teaspoons of sea salt a day. My BP has come down since I scaled back on

both the HC & Florinef as we had discussed.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In conclusion, here are my questions:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1. How long should I stay at 60 mcg of T3?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2. Is it possible that my body likes 15-20 mcg doses as opposed to

25 mcg doses?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 3. Can I dose T3 5-6 times a day as opposed to 4 times?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 4. Should I continue to scale down on the HC at the 2.5 mg rate per

wk?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 5. Is it OK to stay on the Florinef after I wean off of the HC &

then drop the 1/2 tab at once or should I do 1/4 tab? I dropped 1/2 tab at once

already & did not feel bad doing so.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thnx Val. I may end up setting up phone appt over the wkend.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > C.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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Exactly! I slept like a stone for parts of last nite. Was delicious! Hadn't

slept like that in several wks. No iron pill even comes close to restoring what

is needed.

I have also noticed how much lighter my undereye circles look. = ) It is nice. I

am glad. No more looking like Garfield! LOL.

Actually got some house cleaning accomplished today. Feel a nice warmth & not

jumpy, but a smooth calm.

I started taking my oral iron liquid today as well. Maybe it will help prolong

this feeling. But it tastes so disgusting!

C.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi Val,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > We had spoke on phone bout 5 or so wks ago. At that time, I had just

gotten 2 addl Iron IV's & my then labs showed T3 was pooling. I had gotten up to

70 mcg of Cytomel & you had advised I scale bk down to 60 mcg which I did. After

my 2nd Iron IV, I began 5 mcg weekly raises & was doing real fine up until last

Sunday. By then I was up to 90 mcg of Cytomel & could feel the pooling begin

again. Temps were 98.0 to 98.4 & pulse was anywear from high 70's to 100.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I dropped back down to 60 mcg of the T3. I am also in process of

weaning from HC & Florinef bc we had discussed doing so last time on phone as I

was exhibiting high cortisol symptoms such as sweating, bruising & you felt that

could be contributing to the T3 pooling.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am now down to 5 mg of HC & 1/2 tab of Florinef. I am very happy

to report that the relentless immense sweating as greatly subsided. = ) I feel

OK w this small amount of HC & am weaning at a rate of 2.5 mg per w as you & I

had discussed.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I got another Iron IV today bc I could feel my ferritin dropping. My

cycles are still rather heavy altho no longer hemoraghing (spelling) as back in

the day. My current PCP is OK w me getting monthly IV iron, which is wonderful.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am hoping I can increase my Cytomel again. Right now I am doing 60

mcg. I was hoping to get bk up to the 90 mcg asap.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What do you suggest my game plan be now? How should I proceed

increasing T3?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I know I am due for labs & will be having those w.in the next week

or two.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I do apologize for the lengthy post. I am also own 120 meq of K-Dur

& have tried scaling down but when I do my edema comes back badly. Also taking 2

1/2 - 3 teaspoons of sea salt a day. My BP has come down since I scaled back on

both the HC & Florinef as we had discussed.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In conclusion, here are my questions:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1. How long should I stay at 60 mcg of T3?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2. Is it possible that my body likes 15-20 mcg doses as opposed to

25 mcg doses?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 3. Can I dose T3 5-6 times a day as opposed to 4 times?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 4. Should I continue to scale down on the HC at the 2.5 mg rate per

wk?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 5. Is it OK to stay on the Florinef after I wean off of the HC &

then drop the 1/2 tab at once or should I do 1/4 tab? I dropped 1/2 tab at once

already & did not feel bad doing so.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thnx Val. I may end up setting up phone appt over the wkend.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > C.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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Exactly! I slept like a stone for parts of last nite. Was delicious! Hadn't

slept like that in several wks. No iron pill even comes close to restoring what

is needed.

I have also noticed how much lighter my undereye circles look. = ) It is nice. I

am glad. No more looking like Garfield! LOL.

Actually got some house cleaning accomplished today. Feel a nice warmth & not

jumpy, but a smooth calm.

I started taking my oral iron liquid today as well. Maybe it will help prolong

this feeling. But it tastes so disgusting!

C.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi Val,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > We had spoke on phone bout 5 or so wks ago. At that time, I had just

gotten 2 addl Iron IV's & my then labs showed T3 was pooling. I had gotten up to

70 mcg of Cytomel & you had advised I scale bk down to 60 mcg which I did. After

my 2nd Iron IV, I began 5 mcg weekly raises & was doing real fine up until last

Sunday. By then I was up to 90 mcg of Cytomel & could feel the pooling begin

again. Temps were 98.0 to 98.4 & pulse was anywear from high 70's to 100.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I dropped back down to 60 mcg of the T3. I am also in process of

weaning from HC & Florinef bc we had discussed doing so last time on phone as I

was exhibiting high cortisol symptoms such as sweating, bruising & you felt that

could be contributing to the T3 pooling.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am now down to 5 mg of HC & 1/2 tab of Florinef. I am very happy

to report that the relentless immense sweating as greatly subsided. = ) I feel

OK w this small amount of HC & am weaning at a rate of 2.5 mg per w as you & I

had discussed.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I got another Iron IV today bc I could feel my ferritin dropping. My

cycles are still rather heavy altho no longer hemoraghing (spelling) as back in

the day. My current PCP is OK w me getting monthly IV iron, which is wonderful.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am hoping I can increase my Cytomel again. Right now I am doing 60

mcg. I was hoping to get bk up to the 90 mcg asap.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What do you suggest my game plan be now? How should I proceed

increasing T3?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I know I am due for labs & will be having those w.in the next week

or two.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I do apologize for the lengthy post. I am also own 120 meq of K-Dur

& have tried scaling down but when I do my edema comes back badly. Also taking 2

1/2 - 3 teaspoons of sea salt a day. My BP has come down since I scaled back on

both the HC & Florinef as we had discussed.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In conclusion, here are my questions:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1. How long should I stay at 60 mcg of T3?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2. Is it possible that my body likes 15-20 mcg doses as opposed to

25 mcg doses?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 3. Can I dose T3 5-6 times a day as opposed to 4 times?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 4. Should I continue to scale down on the HC at the 2.5 mg rate per

wk?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 5. Is it OK to stay on the Florinef after I wean off of the HC &

then drop the 1/2 tab at once or should I do 1/4 tab? I dropped 1/2 tab at once

already & did not feel bad doing so.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thnx Val. I may end up setting up phone appt over the wkend.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > C.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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Not the undereye circles, too! I looked like I'd been in a bar brawl (and

lost). The iron IVs improved them tremendously. I also seem to be able to

reduce my HC dose a little - I wonder if raising my low iron has decreased some

of the stress on my adrenals?

Do you know why you are getting Ferrlecit? I get Venofer because a doctor years

ago recommended it, but I wonder if one is superior to the other? I'd read that

Venofer had lower incidence side effects (although I've never had any side

effects from any iron IV).

I can't take the oral iron liquid, it disagrees with me (let's just say you

don't want the details...)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hi Val,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > We had spoke on phone bout 5 or so wks ago. At that time, I had

just gotten 2 addl Iron IV's & my then labs showed T3 was pooling. I had gotten

up to 70 mcg of Cytomel & you had advised I scale bk down to 60 mcg which I did.

After my 2nd Iron IV, I began 5 mcg weekly raises & was doing real fine up until

last Sunday. By then I was up to 90 mcg of Cytomel & could feel the pooling

begin again. Temps were 98.0 to 98.4 & pulse was anywear from high 70's to 100.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I dropped back down to 60 mcg of the T3. I am also in process of

weaning from HC & Florinef bc we had discussed doing so last time on phone as I

was exhibiting high cortisol symptoms such as sweating, bruising & you felt that

could be contributing to the T3 pooling.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am now down to 5 mg of HC & 1/2 tab of Florinef. I am very happy

to report that the relentless immense sweating as greatly subsided. = ) I feel

OK w this small amount of HC & am weaning at a rate of 2.5 mg per w as you & I

had discussed.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I got another Iron IV today bc I could feel my ferritin dropping.

My cycles are still rather heavy altho no longer hemoraghing (spelling) as back

in the day. My current PCP is OK w me getting monthly IV iron, which is

wonderful.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am hoping I can increase my Cytomel again. Right now I am doing

60 mcg. I was hoping to get bk up to the 90 mcg asap.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > What do you suggest my game plan be now? How should I proceed

increasing T3?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I know I am due for labs & will be having those w.in the next week

or two.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I do apologize for the lengthy post. I am also own 120 meq of

K-Dur & have tried scaling down but when I do my edema comes back badly. Also

taking 2 1/2 - 3 teaspoons of sea salt a day. My BP has come down since I scaled

back on both the HC & Florinef as we had discussed.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In conclusion, here are my questions:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1. How long should I stay at 60 mcg of T3?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 2. Is it possible that my body likes 15-20 mcg doses as opposed to

25 mcg doses?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 3. Can I dose T3 5-6 times a day as opposed to 4 times?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 4. Should I continue to scale down on the HC at the 2.5 mg rate

per wk?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 5. Is it OK to stay on the Florinef after I wean off of the HC &

then drop the 1/2 tab at once or should I do 1/4 tab? I dropped 1/2 tab at once

already & did not feel bad doing so.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thnx Val. I may end up setting up phone appt over the wkend.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > C.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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Not the undereye circles, too! I looked like I'd been in a bar brawl (and

lost). The iron IVs improved them tremendously. I also seem to be able to

reduce my HC dose a little - I wonder if raising my low iron has decreased some

of the stress on my adrenals?

Do you know why you are getting Ferrlecit? I get Venofer because a doctor years

ago recommended it, but I wonder if one is superior to the other? I'd read that

Venofer had lower incidence side effects (although I've never had any side

effects from any iron IV).

I can't take the oral iron liquid, it disagrees with me (let's just say you

don't want the details...)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hi Val,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > We had spoke on phone bout 5 or so wks ago. At that time, I had

just gotten 2 addl Iron IV's & my then labs showed T3 was pooling. I had gotten

up to 70 mcg of Cytomel & you had advised I scale bk down to 60 mcg which I did.

After my 2nd Iron IV, I began 5 mcg weekly raises & was doing real fine up until

last Sunday. By then I was up to 90 mcg of Cytomel & could feel the pooling

begin again. Temps were 98.0 to 98.4 & pulse was anywear from high 70's to 100.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I dropped back down to 60 mcg of the T3. I am also in process of

weaning from HC & Florinef bc we had discussed doing so last time on phone as I

was exhibiting high cortisol symptoms such as sweating, bruising & you felt that

could be contributing to the T3 pooling.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am now down to 5 mg of HC & 1/2 tab of Florinef. I am very happy

to report that the relentless immense sweating as greatly subsided. = ) I feel

OK w this small amount of HC & am weaning at a rate of 2.5 mg per w as you & I

had discussed.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I got another Iron IV today bc I could feel my ferritin dropping.

My cycles are still rather heavy altho no longer hemoraghing (spelling) as back

in the day. My current PCP is OK w me getting monthly IV iron, which is

wonderful.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am hoping I can increase my Cytomel again. Right now I am doing

60 mcg. I was hoping to get bk up to the 90 mcg asap.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > What do you suggest my game plan be now? How should I proceed

increasing T3?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I know I am due for labs & will be having those w.in the next week

or two.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I do apologize for the lengthy post. I am also own 120 meq of

K-Dur & have tried scaling down but when I do my edema comes back badly. Also

taking 2 1/2 - 3 teaspoons of sea salt a day. My BP has come down since I scaled

back on both the HC & Florinef as we had discussed.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In conclusion, here are my questions:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1. How long should I stay at 60 mcg of T3?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 2. Is it possible that my body likes 15-20 mcg doses as opposed to

25 mcg doses?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 3. Can I dose T3 5-6 times a day as opposed to 4 times?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 4. Should I continue to scale down on the HC at the 2.5 mg rate

per wk?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 5. Is it OK to stay on the Florinef after I wean off of the HC &

then drop the 1/2 tab at once or should I do 1/4 tab? I dropped 1/2 tab at once

already & did not feel bad doing so.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thnx Val. I may end up setting up phone appt over the wkend.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > C.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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Not the undereye circles, too! I looked like I'd been in a bar brawl (and

lost). The iron IVs improved them tremendously. I also seem to be able to

reduce my HC dose a little - I wonder if raising my low iron has decreased some

of the stress on my adrenals?

Do you know why you are getting Ferrlecit? I get Venofer because a doctor years

ago recommended it, but I wonder if one is superior to the other? I'd read that

Venofer had lower incidence side effects (although I've never had any side

effects from any iron IV).

I can't take the oral iron liquid, it disagrees with me (let's just say you

don't want the details...)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hi Val,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > We had spoke on phone bout 5 or so wks ago. At that time, I had

just gotten 2 addl Iron IV's & my then labs showed T3 was pooling. I had gotten

up to 70 mcg of Cytomel & you had advised I scale bk down to 60 mcg which I did.

After my 2nd Iron IV, I began 5 mcg weekly raises & was doing real fine up until

last Sunday. By then I was up to 90 mcg of Cytomel & could feel the pooling

begin again. Temps were 98.0 to 98.4 & pulse was anywear from high 70's to 100.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I dropped back down to 60 mcg of the T3. I am also in process of

weaning from HC & Florinef bc we had discussed doing so last time on phone as I

was exhibiting high cortisol symptoms such as sweating, bruising & you felt that

could be contributing to the T3 pooling.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am now down to 5 mg of HC & 1/2 tab of Florinef. I am very happy

to report that the relentless immense sweating as greatly subsided. = ) I feel

OK w this small amount of HC & am weaning at a rate of 2.5 mg per w as you & I

had discussed.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I got another Iron IV today bc I could feel my ferritin dropping.

My cycles are still rather heavy altho no longer hemoraghing (spelling) as back

in the day. My current PCP is OK w me getting monthly IV iron, which is

wonderful.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am hoping I can increase my Cytomel again. Right now I am doing

60 mcg. I was hoping to get bk up to the 90 mcg asap.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > What do you suggest my game plan be now? How should I proceed

increasing T3?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I know I am due for labs & will be having those w.in the next week

or two.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I do apologize for the lengthy post. I am also own 120 meq of

K-Dur & have tried scaling down but when I do my edema comes back badly. Also

taking 2 1/2 - 3 teaspoons of sea salt a day. My BP has come down since I scaled

back on both the HC & Florinef as we had discussed.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In conclusion, here are my questions:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1. How long should I stay at 60 mcg of T3?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 2. Is it possible that my body likes 15-20 mcg doses as opposed to

25 mcg doses?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 3. Can I dose T3 5-6 times a day as opposed to 4 times?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 4. Should I continue to scale down on the HC at the 2.5 mg rate

per wk?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 5. Is it OK to stay on the Florinef after I wean off of the HC &

then drop the 1/2 tab at once or should I do 1/4 tab? I dropped 1/2 tab at once

already & did not feel bad doing so.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thnx Val. I may end up setting up phone appt over the wkend.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > C.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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The Ferrlecit is newer my hematologist told me & he feels better bc less side

effects & easier to tolerate. I am very happy w it. There is an even newer one I

think. Don't recall name off hand tho.

The oral iron causes me issues too but I need to prop up what the IV iron does

bc I don't want to keep back sliding w the Cytomel. I was up to 90 mcg & still

feeling hypo w pains & such. I think I will prolly end up around 100 max. I

shall see.

Do you take any iron supps? If so, which ones?

C.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hi Val,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > We had spoke on phone bout 5 or so wks ago. At that time, I had

just gotten 2 addl Iron IV's & my then labs showed T3 was pooling. I had gotten

up to 70 mcg of Cytomel & you had advised I scale bk down to 60 mcg which I did.

After my 2nd Iron IV, I began 5 mcg weekly raises & was doing real fine up until

last Sunday. By then I was up to 90 mcg of Cytomel & could feel the pooling

begin again. Temps were 98.0 to 98.4 & pulse was anywear from high 70's to 100.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I dropped back down to 60 mcg of the T3. I am also in process of

weaning from HC & Florinef bc we had discussed doing so last time on phone as I

was exhibiting high cortisol symptoms such as sweating, bruising & you felt that

could be contributing to the T3 pooling.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I am now down to 5 mg of HC & 1/2 tab of Florinef. I am very

happy to report that the relentless immense sweating as greatly subsided. = ) I

feel OK w this small amount of HC & am weaning at a rate of 2.5 mg per w as you

& I had discussed.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I got another Iron IV today bc I could feel my ferritin

dropping. My cycles are still rather heavy altho no longer hemoraghing

(spelling) as back in the day. My current PCP is OK w me getting monthly IV

iron, which is wonderful.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I am hoping I can increase my Cytomel again. Right now I am

doing 60 mcg. I was hoping to get bk up to the 90 mcg asap.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > What do you suggest my game plan be now? How should I proceed

increasing T3?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I know I am due for labs & will be having those w.in the next

week or two.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I do apologize for the lengthy post. I am also own 120 meq of

K-Dur & have tried scaling down but when I do my edema comes back badly. Also

taking 2 1/2 - 3 teaspoons of sea salt a day. My BP has come down since I scaled

back on both the HC & Florinef as we had discussed.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In conclusion, here are my questions:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 1. How long should I stay at 60 mcg of T3?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 2. Is it possible that my body likes 15-20 mcg doses as opposed

to 25 mcg doses?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 3. Can I dose T3 5-6 times a day as opposed to 4 times?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 4. Should I continue to scale down on the HC at the 2.5 mg rate

per wk?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 5. Is it OK to stay on the Florinef after I wean off of the HC &

then drop the 1/2 tab at once or should I do 1/4 tab? I dropped 1/2 tab at once

already & did not feel bad doing so.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thnx Val. I may end up setting up phone appt over the wkend.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > C.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

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Thanks very much for the iron IV info. For oral iron supps, I am now taking the

Blue Bonnet iron. I had my best results with Hema-Plex, but had to stop taking

it because it contains copper and I tested too high in copper. Here's a link:

http://www.iherb.com/Nature-s-Plus-Hema-Plex-Multinutrient-Hematinic-Supplement-\

30-Tablets/7662?at=0

Hema-Plex comes in different strengths. The one I linked to is, I believe, the

strongest. I only had to take two pills a day of this to get 170 mg elemental

iron. That was nice, because now I have to take six of the blue bonnet to get

about the same mgs.

Lethal Lee has pointed out, correctly, that the B vitamins in Hema-Plex are not

the most active forms available. It also contains green tea, which I usually

avoid because tea contains fluoride. Still, hema-plex worked the best to keep

my iron up, though.

I had to reduce my Cynomel when my iron went low, too. It is a frustrating

process all right.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Hi Val,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > We had spoke on phone bout 5 or so wks ago. At that time, I

had just gotten 2 addl Iron IV's & my then labs showed T3 was pooling. I had

gotten up to 70 mcg of Cytomel & you had advised I scale bk down to 60 mcg which

I did. After my 2nd Iron IV, I began 5 mcg weekly raises & was doing real fine

up until last Sunday. By then I was up to 90 mcg of Cytomel & could feel the

pooling begin again. Temps were 98.0 to 98.4 & pulse was anywear from high 70's

to 100.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I dropped back down to 60 mcg of the T3. I am also in process

of weaning from HC & Florinef bc we had discussed doing so last time on phone as

I was exhibiting high cortisol symptoms such as sweating, bruising & you felt

that could be contributing to the T3 pooling.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I am now down to 5 mg of HC & 1/2 tab of Florinef. I am very

happy to report that the relentless immense sweating as greatly subsided. = ) I

feel OK w this small amount of HC & am weaning at a rate of 2.5 mg per w as you

& I had discussed.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I got another Iron IV today bc I could feel my ferritin

dropping. My cycles are still rather heavy altho no longer hemoraghing

(spelling) as back in the day. My current PCP is OK w me getting monthly IV

iron, which is wonderful.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I am hoping I can increase my Cytomel again. Right now I am

doing 60 mcg. I was hoping to get bk up to the 90 mcg asap.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > What do you suggest my game plan be now? How should I proceed

increasing T3?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I know I am due for labs & will be having those w.in the next

week or two.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I do apologize for the lengthy post. I am also own 120 meq of

K-Dur & have tried scaling down but when I do my edema comes back badly. Also

taking 2 1/2 - 3 teaspoons of sea salt a day. My BP has come down since I scaled

back on both the HC & Florinef as we had discussed.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > In conclusion, here are my questions:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 1. How long should I stay at 60 mcg of T3?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 2. Is it possible that my body likes 15-20 mcg doses as

opposed to 25 mcg doses?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 3. Can I dose T3 5-6 times a day as opposed to 4 times?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 4. Should I continue to scale down on the HC at the 2.5 mg

rate per wk?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 5. Is it OK to stay on the Florinef after I wean off of the HC

& then drop the 1/2 tab at once or should I do 1/4 tab? I dropped 1/2 tab at

once already & did not feel bad doing so.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thnx Val. I may end up setting up phone appt over the wkend.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > C.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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Thanks very much for the iron IV info. For oral iron supps, I am now taking the

Blue Bonnet iron. I had my best results with Hema-Plex, but had to stop taking

it because it contains copper and I tested too high in copper. Here's a link:

http://www.iherb.com/Nature-s-Plus-Hema-Plex-Multinutrient-Hematinic-Supplement-\

30-Tablets/7662?at=0

Hema-Plex comes in different strengths. The one I linked to is, I believe, the

strongest. I only had to take two pills a day of this to get 170 mg elemental

iron. That was nice, because now I have to take six of the blue bonnet to get

about the same mgs.

Lethal Lee has pointed out, correctly, that the B vitamins in Hema-Plex are not

the most active forms available. It also contains green tea, which I usually

avoid because tea contains fluoride. Still, hema-plex worked the best to keep

my iron up, though.

I had to reduce my Cynomel when my iron went low, too. It is a frustrating

process all right.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Hi Val,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > We had spoke on phone bout 5 or so wks ago. At that time, I

had just gotten 2 addl Iron IV's & my then labs showed T3 was pooling. I had

gotten up to 70 mcg of Cytomel & you had advised I scale bk down to 60 mcg which

I did. After my 2nd Iron IV, I began 5 mcg weekly raises & was doing real fine

up until last Sunday. By then I was up to 90 mcg of Cytomel & could feel the

pooling begin again. Temps were 98.0 to 98.4 & pulse was anywear from high 70's

to 100.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I dropped back down to 60 mcg of the T3. I am also in process

of weaning from HC & Florinef bc we had discussed doing so last time on phone as

I was exhibiting high cortisol symptoms such as sweating, bruising & you felt

that could be contributing to the T3 pooling.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I am now down to 5 mg of HC & 1/2 tab of Florinef. I am very

happy to report that the relentless immense sweating as greatly subsided. = ) I

feel OK w this small amount of HC & am weaning at a rate of 2.5 mg per w as you

& I had discussed.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I got another Iron IV today bc I could feel my ferritin

dropping. My cycles are still rather heavy altho no longer hemoraghing

(spelling) as back in the day. My current PCP is OK w me getting monthly IV

iron, which is wonderful.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I am hoping I can increase my Cytomel again. Right now I am

doing 60 mcg. I was hoping to get bk up to the 90 mcg asap.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > What do you suggest my game plan be now? How should I proceed

increasing T3?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I know I am due for labs & will be having those w.in the next

week or two.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I do apologize for the lengthy post. I am also own 120 meq of

K-Dur & have tried scaling down but when I do my edema comes back badly. Also

taking 2 1/2 - 3 teaspoons of sea salt a day. My BP has come down since I scaled

back on both the HC & Florinef as we had discussed.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > In conclusion, here are my questions:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 1. How long should I stay at 60 mcg of T3?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 2. Is it possible that my body likes 15-20 mcg doses as

opposed to 25 mcg doses?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 3. Can I dose T3 5-6 times a day as opposed to 4 times?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 4. Should I continue to scale down on the HC at the 2.5 mg

rate per wk?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 5. Is it OK to stay on the Florinef after I wean off of the HC

& then drop the 1/2 tab at once or should I do 1/4 tab? I dropped 1/2 tab at

once already & did not feel bad doing so.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thnx Val. I may end up setting up phone appt over the wkend.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > C.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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Thanks very much for the iron IV info. For oral iron supps, I am now taking the

Blue Bonnet iron. I had my best results with Hema-Plex, but had to stop taking

it because it contains copper and I tested too high in copper. Here's a link:

http://www.iherb.com/Nature-s-Plus-Hema-Plex-Multinutrient-Hematinic-Supplement-\

30-Tablets/7662?at=0

Hema-Plex comes in different strengths. The one I linked to is, I believe, the

strongest. I only had to take two pills a day of this to get 170 mg elemental

iron. That was nice, because now I have to take six of the blue bonnet to get

about the same mgs.

Lethal Lee has pointed out, correctly, that the B vitamins in Hema-Plex are not

the most active forms available. It also contains green tea, which I usually

avoid because tea contains fluoride. Still, hema-plex worked the best to keep

my iron up, though.

I had to reduce my Cynomel when my iron went low, too. It is a frustrating

process all right.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Hi Val,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > We had spoke on phone bout 5 or so wks ago. At that time, I

had just gotten 2 addl Iron IV's & my then labs showed T3 was pooling. I had

gotten up to 70 mcg of Cytomel & you had advised I scale bk down to 60 mcg which

I did. After my 2nd Iron IV, I began 5 mcg weekly raises & was doing real fine

up until last Sunday. By then I was up to 90 mcg of Cytomel & could feel the

pooling begin again. Temps were 98.0 to 98.4 & pulse was anywear from high 70's

to 100.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I dropped back down to 60 mcg of the T3. I am also in process

of weaning from HC & Florinef bc we had discussed doing so last time on phone as

I was exhibiting high cortisol symptoms such as sweating, bruising & you felt

that could be contributing to the T3 pooling.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I am now down to 5 mg of HC & 1/2 tab of Florinef. I am very

happy to report that the relentless immense sweating as greatly subsided. = ) I

feel OK w this small amount of HC & am weaning at a rate of 2.5 mg per w as you

& I had discussed.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I got another Iron IV today bc I could feel my ferritin

dropping. My cycles are still rather heavy altho no longer hemoraghing

(spelling) as back in the day. My current PCP is OK w me getting monthly IV

iron, which is wonderful.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I am hoping I can increase my Cytomel again. Right now I am

doing 60 mcg. I was hoping to get bk up to the 90 mcg asap.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > What do you suggest my game plan be now? How should I proceed

increasing T3?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I know I am due for labs & will be having those w.in the next

week or two.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I do apologize for the lengthy post. I am also own 120 meq of

K-Dur & have tried scaling down but when I do my edema comes back badly. Also

taking 2 1/2 - 3 teaspoons of sea salt a day. My BP has come down since I scaled

back on both the HC & Florinef as we had discussed.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > In conclusion, here are my questions:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 1. How long should I stay at 60 mcg of T3?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 2. Is it possible that my body likes 15-20 mcg doses as

opposed to 25 mcg doses?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 3. Can I dose T3 5-6 times a day as opposed to 4 times?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 4. Should I continue to scale down on the HC at the 2.5 mg

rate per wk?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 5. Is it OK to stay on the Florinef after I wean off of the HC

& then drop the 1/2 tab at once or should I do 1/4 tab? I dropped 1/2 tab at

once already & did not feel bad doing so.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thnx Val. I may end up setting up phone appt over the wkend.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > C.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

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Thnx for the iron supp info. I will check both of them out. Right now I am using

Floradix, a liquid herbal iron supp. Tastes awful but I do feel " better " when I

take it.

I haven't had my copper tested. I am due for new blood work & will look into

what other things I need tested.

The Blue Bonnet seems to be the #1 choice on these boards. I have tried various

pills in the past & they all ripped apart my stomach. Was not a pleasant

experience.'

Right now I am experimenting w sticking w 80 mcg of the T3 in light of the Iron

IV. I am hoping that the pooling does not start again. I will most likely be

getting the IV Iron 1 x per month until my ferritin can stay up on it's own.

Be well.

C.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Hi Val,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > We had spoke on phone bout 5 or so wks ago. At that time, I

had just gotten 2 addl Iron IV's & my then labs showed T3 was pooling. I had

gotten up to 70 mcg of Cytomel & you had advised I scale bk down to 60 mcg which

I did. After my 2nd Iron IV, I began 5 mcg weekly raises & was doing real fine

up until last Sunday. By then I was up to 90 mcg of Cytomel & could feel the

pooling begin again. Temps were 98.0 to 98.4 & pulse was anywear from high 70's

to 100.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I dropped back down to 60 mcg of the T3. I am also in

process of weaning from HC & Florinef bc we had discussed doing so last time on

phone as I was exhibiting high cortisol symptoms such as sweating, bruising &

you felt that could be contributing to the T3 pooling.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I am now down to 5 mg of HC & 1/2 tab of Florinef. I am very

happy to report that the relentless immense sweating as greatly subsided. = ) I

feel OK w this small amount of HC & am weaning at a rate of 2.5 mg per w as you

& I had discussed.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I got another Iron IV today bc I could feel my ferritin

dropping. My cycles are still rather heavy altho no longer hemoraghing

(spelling) as back in the day. My current PCP is OK w me getting monthly IV

iron, which is wonderful.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I am hoping I can increase my Cytomel again. Right now I am

doing 60 mcg. I was hoping to get bk up to the 90 mcg asap.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > What do you suggest my game plan be now? How should I

proceed increasing T3?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I know I am due for labs & will be having those w.in the

next week or two.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I do apologize for the lengthy post. I am also own 120 meq

of K-Dur & have tried scaling down but when I do my edema comes back badly. Also

taking 2 1/2 - 3 teaspoons of sea salt a day. My BP has come down since I scaled

back on both the HC & Florinef as we had discussed.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > In conclusion, here are my questions:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 1. How long should I stay at 60 mcg of T3?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 2. Is it possible that my body likes 15-20 mcg doses as

opposed to 25 mcg doses?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 3. Can I dose T3 5-6 times a day as opposed to 4 times?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 4. Should I continue to scale down on the HC at the 2.5 mg

rate per wk?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 5. Is it OK to stay on the Florinef after I wean off of the

HC & then drop the 1/2 tab at once or should I do 1/4 tab? I dropped 1/2 tab at

once already & did not feel bad doing so.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Thnx Val. I may end up setting up phone appt over the wkend.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > C.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

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