Re: T3, lowish ferritin and anxiety

[Guest guest]

Strange I have a lot of men posting at the Men's Hormones forum's that trying to

lower there RT3 levels on T3 only thyroid meds there SHBG went way up and this

binds up Free Testosteone. I do get a lot of anxiety when my Estradiol levels

go up and if your SHBG is going up now it can be your Estradiol going up doing

this.

Just a thought as to why your feeling like this also when I try T3 only meds I

go hyper and feel this way but this is me.

Phil

>

> Subject: T3, lowish ferritin and anxiety

> To: RT3_T3

> Date: Saturday, July 31, 2010, 2:20 PM

> Hi Val/Nick:

> This is the first time i'm posting on this site. I've

> lowish ferritin(39) and have just started T3.

> Although I was anxious and depressed before I started it's

> worse now. I'm taking 3 12.5 mg doses at approx. 8 am, 12

> noon and 4 pm.

> My question is, why does the low ferritin have any bearing

> on how one feels when taking t3?

> The T3 can't be converting to RT3 and making that situation

> worse, so why can it make you feel more anxious? My T3 to

> RT3 ratio is 6.7.

> I take HC at 22.5 mg a day to support low adrenals.

> Thanks.

> Whitmore.

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

> We are not medical professionals here, just patients

> sharing our experiences. Please use this information with

> the help of a competent doctor.

[Guest guest]

Actually iron is needed to CARRY t3 around to the cells where it is

needed. I am not sure the exact mechanism oif why the anxiety from T3

when iron is low but it is a fact that it causes extreme anxiety for

most people wiht lwo iron and also stresses the adrneals big time. I

would liek ot think it is estrogen btu mine has not moved and my SHBG is

not bad wihter, top of range but not over. And I have beemn on T3 onyl

for abotu 2 years now.

http://www.nthadrenalsweb.com

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

http://artisticgrooming.net/

> Hi Val/Nick:

> This is the first time i'm posting on this site. I've lowish ferritin(39) and

have just started T3.

> Although I was anxious and depressed before I started it's worse now. I'm

taking 3 12.5 mg doses at approx. 8 am, 12 noon and 4 pm.

> My question is, why does the low ferritin have any bearing on how one feels

when taking t3?

> The T3 can't be converting to RT3 and making that situation worse, so why can

it make you feel more anxious? My T3 to RT3 ratio is 6.7.

> I take HC at 22.5 mg a day to support low adrenals.

> Thanks.

> Whitmore.

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our experiences.

Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor. Yahoo! Groups

Links

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Phil

For those of us who have no clue what SHBG stands for, can you explain. Thanks.

Stan

T3, lowish ferritin and anxiety

> To: RT3_T3

> Date: Saturday, July 31, 2010, 2:20 PM

> Hi Val/Nick:

> This is the first time i'm posting on this site. I've

> lowish ferritin(39) and have just started T3.

> Although I was anxious and depressed before I started it's

> worse now. I'm taking 3 12.5 mg doses at approx. 8 am, 12

> noon and 4 pm.

> My question is, why does the low ferritin have any bearing

> on how one feels when taking t3?

> The T3 can't be converting to RT3 and making that situation

> worse, so why can it make you feel more anxious? My T3 to

> RT3 ratio is 6.7.

> I take HC at 22.5 mg a day to support low adrenals.

> Thanks.

> Whitmore.

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

> We are not medical professionals here, just patients

> sharing our experiences. Please use this information with

> the help of a competent doctor.

[Guest guest]

SHBG sex hormone binding globulin. In men it apparently binds testosterone.This reminds me: I need to get my free Testosterone checked because my SHBG was high at 70 (14.5-48.4 nmol/L). My total Testosterone was high probably from taking DHEA. But it is the free that carries the load. I should also check estradiol based on info in other posts.To:

RT3_T3 Sent: Sat, July 31, 2010 12:44:08 PMSubject: Re: T3, lowish ferritin and anxiety

Phil

For those of us who have no clue what SHBG stands for, can you explain. Thanks.

Stan

T3, lowish ferritin and anxiety

> To: RT3_T3 (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com

> Date: Saturday, July 31, 2010, 2:20 PM

> Hi Val/Nick:

> This is the first time i'm posting on this site. I've

> lowish ferritin(39) and have just started T3.

> Although I was anxious and depressed before I started it's

> worse now. I'm taking 3 12.5 mg doses at approx. 8 am, 12

> noon and 4 pm.

> My question is, why does the low ferritin have any bearing

> on how one feels when taking t3?

> The T3 can't be converting to RT3 and making that situation

> worse, so why can it make you feel more anxious? My T3 to

> RT3 ratio is 6.7.

> I take HC at 22.5 mg a day to support low adrenals.

> Thanks.

> Whitmore.

>

>

>

> ------------ --------- --------- ------

>

> We are not medical professionals here, just patients

> sharing our experiences. Please use this information with

> the help of a competent doctor.

[Guest guest]

Val: how much T3 do you take a day as maintenance? Do you take any NTH also?

Just curious.

> > Hi Val/Nick:

> > This is the first time i'm posting on this site. I've lowish ferritin(39)

and have just started T3.

> > Although I was anxious and depressed before I started it's worse now. I'm

taking 3 12.5 mg doses at approx. 8 am, 12 noon and 4 pm.

> > My question is, why does the low ferritin have any bearing on how one feels

when taking t3?

> > The T3 can't be converting to RT3 and making that situation worse, so why

can it make you feel more anxious? My T3 to RT3 ratio is 6.7.

> > I take HC at 22.5 mg a day to support low adrenals.

> > Thanks.

> > Whitmore.

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> > We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our

experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.

[Guest guest]

Sure now this as far as I know only happens to men not women.

Sex hormone-binding globulin (SHBG)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_hormone-binding_globulin

Most of the men I help on the forums have low testosterone and they have Adrenal problems with Thyroid they also get from time to time high levels of RT3 and take T3 only meds to get this down when they are not them to long there SHBG goes up and this binds up there Free Testosterone this is the Testosterone in your body that is working the rest of it is just there bound up.

For the men out there this link is great and all men sick with Adrenals or Thyroid need to have there Testosterone tested most are very low.

http://www.griffinmedical.com/male_hormone_modulation_therapy.htmlPhil---

Subject: Re: T3, lowish ferritin and anxietyTo: RT3_T3 Date: Saturday, July 31, 2010, 3:44 PM

Phil

For those of us who have no clue what SHBG stands for, can you explain. Thanks.

Stan

T3, lowish ferritin and anxiety>

To: RT3_T3 > Date: Saturday, July 31, 2010, 2:20 PM> Hi Val/Nick: > This is the first time i'm posting on this site. I've> lowish ferritin(39) and have just started T3. > Although I was anxious and depressed before I started it's> worse now. I'm taking 3 12.5 mg doses at approx. 8 am, 12> noon and 4 pm. > My question is, why does the low ferritin have any bearing> on how one feels when taking t3?> The T3 can't be converting to RT3 and making that situation> worse, so why can it make you feel more anxious? My T3 to> RT3 ratio is 6.7.> I take HC at 22.5 mg a day to support low adrenals. > Thanks.> Whitmore.> > > > ------------------------------------>

> We are not medical professionals here, just patients> sharing our experiences. Please use this information with> the help of a competent doctor.

[Guest guest]

Nope I have had trouble raising my testosterone, the free thta is.

My total is fine but my free is still low. I had to increase it m

btu I NEED the extra estrogen too! LOL I htink testosterone is down

regulated when we are hypothyroid due to lwo T3 which also causes

low SHBG. Birng the T3 upo it raises SHBG thne we REALLY need more

sex hormones.

http://www.nthadrenalsweb.com http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

http://artisticgrooming.net/

Sure now this as far as I know only happens to men

not women.

Sex hormone-binding globulin (SHBG)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_hormone-binding_globulin

Most of the men I help on the forums have low

testosterone and they have Adrenal problems with Thyroid

they also get from time to time high levels of RT3 and

take T3 only meds to get this down when they are not

them to long there SHBG goes up and this binds up there

Free Testosterone this is the Testosterone in your body

that is working the rest of it is just there bound up.

For the men out there this link is great and all men

sick with Adrenals or Thyroid need to have there

Testosterone tested most are very low.

http://www.griffinmedical.com/male_hormone_modulation_therapy.html

Phil

>

> Subject: T3, lowish

ferritin and anxiety

> To: RT3_T3

> Date: Saturday, July 31, 2010, 2:20

PM

> Hi Val/Nick:

> This is the first time i'm posting

on this site. I've

> lowish ferritin(39) and have just

started T3.

> Although I was anxious and

depressed before I started it's

> worse now. I'm taking 3 12.5 mg

doses at approx. 8 am, 12

> noon and 4 pm.

> My question is, why does the low

ferritin have any bearing

> on how one feels when taking t3?

> The T3 can't be converting to RT3

and making that situation

> worse, so why can it make you feel

more anxious? My T3 to

> RT3 ratio is 6.7.

> I take HC at 22.5 mg a day to

support low adrenals.

> Thanks.

> Whitmore.

>

>

>

>

------------------------------------

>

> We are not medical professionals

here, just patients

> sharing our experiences. Please use

this information with

> the help of a competent doctor.

[Guest guest]

Hi DHEA in men if your taking to much of it will convert into Estradiol not Testosterone. DHEA converts into Testosterone for women but very little of it unless they are taking a lot of it. Free Testosterone is only about 1 to 2 % of all your Total Testosterone in your body so when you test this test your Total and Estradiol levels. Your SHBG is very high mine is on the lower side about 20 the lower your SHBG the lower one needs to keep there Estradiol levels down. In men high Estradiol kills there sex life big time and can cause BPH problems.Co-Moderator Phil> From: Whitmore <whitmore143@ yahoo.com>> Subject: T3, lowish ferritin and

anxiety> To: RT3_T3 (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com> Date: Saturday, July 31, 2010, 2:20 PM> Hi Val/Nick: > This is the first time i'm posting on this site. I've> lowish ferritin(39) and have just started T3. > Although I was anxious and depressed before I started it's> worse now. I'm taking 3 12.5 mg doses at approx. 8 am, 12> noon and 4 pm. > My question is, why does the low ferritin have any bearing> on how one feels when taking t3?> The T3 can't be converting to RT3 and making that situation> worse, so why can it make you feel more anxious? My T3 to> RT3 ratio is 6.7.> I take HC at 22.5 mg a day to support low adrenals. > Thanks.> Whitmore.> > > > ------------ ---------

--------- ------> > We are not medical professionals here, just patients> sharing our experiences. Please use this information with> the help of a competent doctor.

[Guest guest]

I have hemochromatosis and since my ferritin is way down, I get anxiety as well.

I think it is because you need some iron for deinatase action to occur.

[Guest guest]

: I googled 'deinatase' but got no hits. Could you be so kind as to either

explain what it is, or check the spelling. Thanks!

Whitmore.

>

> I have hemochromatosis and since my ferritin is way down, I get anxiety as

well. I think it is because you need some iron for deinatase action to occur.

>

[Guest guest]

From: http://nahypothyroidism.org/deiodinases/

Iron deficiency is shown to significantly reduce T4 to T3 conversion, increase

reverse T3 levels, and block the thermogenic (metabolism boosting) properties of

thyroid hormone (238-242). Thus, iron deficiency, as indicated by an iron

saturation below 25 or a ferritin below 70, will result in diminished

intracellular T3 levels. Additionally, T4 should not be considered adequate

thyroid replacement if iron deficiency is present

> >

> > I have hemochromatosis and since my ferritin is way down, I get anxiety as

well. I think it is because you need some iron for deinatase action to occur.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks barb for clearing that up. Yes you do need some iron for thyroid

function Jim

[Guest guest]

Thanks barb for clearing that up. Yes you do need some iron for thyroid

function Jim

[Guest guest]

Thanks barb for clearing that up. Yes you do need some iron for thyroid

function Jim

[Guest guest]

what helps produce T4 ?? as far as supplements go?

Subject: Re: T3, lowish ferritin and anxietyTo: RT3_T3 Date: Saturday, July 31, 2010, 9:41 PM

From: http://nahypothyroidism.org/deiodinases/Iron deficiency is shown to significantly reduce T4 to T3 conversion, increase reverse T3 levels, and block the thermogenic (metabolism boosting) properties of thyroid hormone (238-242). Thus, iron deficiency, as indicated by an iron saturation below 25 or a ferritin below 70, will result in diminished intracellular T3 levels. Additionally, T4 should not be considered adequate thyroid replacement if iron deficiency is present > >> > I have hemochromatosis and since my ferritin is way down, I get anxiety as well. I think it is because you need some iron for deinatase action to occur.> >>

[Guest guest]

Iodine but unless oyu want RT3 ot go up you do not want to make T4.

http://www.nthadrenalsweb.org/

http://www.health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://www.faqhelp.webs.com/

http://www.health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

what helps produce T4 ?? as far as supplements go?

Subject: Re: T3, lowish ferritin and anxiety

To: RT3_T3

Date: Saturday, July 31, 2010, 9:41 PM

 

From: http://nahypothyroidism.org/deiodinases/

Iron deficiency is shown to significantly reduce T4 to T3 conversion,

increase reverse T3 levels, and block the thermogenic (metabolism

boosting) properties of thyroid hormone (238-242). Thus, iron

deficiency, as indicated by an iron saturation below 25 or a ferritin

below 70, will result in diminished intracellular T3 levels.

Additionally, T4 should not be considered adequate thyroid replacement

if iron deficiency is present

> >

> > I have hemochromatosis and since my ferritin is way down, I

get anxiety as well. I think it is because you need some iron for

deinatase action to occur.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

i have the same problem getting free testosterone up...have you been able to find a sweet spot while in enough T3?? i am wondering about trying some of the supplements that are supposed to free up some of hte testosterone....> From: Whitmore <whitmore143@ yahoo.com>> Subject: T3, lowish ferritin and anxiety> To: RT3_T3 (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com> Date: Saturday, July 31, 2010, 2:20 PM> Hi Val/Nick: > This is the first time i'm posting on this site. I've> lowish ferritin(39) and have just started T3. > Although I was anxious and depressed before I started it's> worse now. I'm taking 3 12.5 mg doses at approx. 8 am, 12> noon and 4 pm. > My question is, why does the low ferritin have any bearing> on how one feels when taking t3?> The T3 can't be converting to RT3 and making that situation> worse, so why can it make you feel more anxious? My T3 to> RT3 ratio is 6.7.> I take HC at 22.5 mg a day to support low adrenals. > Thanks.> Whitmore.> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > We are not medical professionals

here, just patients> sharing our experiences. Please use this information with> the help of a competent doctor.

[Guest guest]

bump--question for Val on how much t3 you now take daily, and how you dose it.

tx

whitmore

> > > Hi Val/Nick:

> > > This is the first time i'm posting on this site. I've lowish ferritin(39)

and have just started T3.

> > > Although I was anxious and depressed before I started it's worse now. I'm

taking 3 12.5 mg doses at approx. 8 am, 12 noon and 4 pm.

> > > My question is, why does the low ferritin have any bearing on how one

feels when taking t3?

> > > The T3 can't be converting to RT3 and making that situation worse, so why

can it make you feel more anxious? My T3 to RT3 ratio is 6.7.

> > > I take HC at 22.5 mg a day to support low adrenals.

> > > Thanks.

> > > Whitmore.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > > We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our

experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.